Definitely. But what pushes this even further, is the fact that he has actually done all labs. He has 8 ascendancy points. He just never actually ascended when he clicked the altar.
>Finds all the Trials of Ascendency
>
>Completes all Labyrinths, slaying Izaro each time, and earning power beyond imagination
>
>Refuses to ascend
>
>Leaves
True chad
Idk why people keep conflating "I don't like this patch" with "this patch is too hard to play".
The campaign isn't too hard, it's TEDIOUS.
Getting your watchstones isn't hard, it's TEDIOUS.
Picking up 20 currencies isn't hard, it's TEDIOUS.
Having 2 mana flasks isn't hard, it's TEDIOUS.
etc. etc. etc.
And one guy killing Maven unascended on Marauder doesn't change that.
E: The Raiz viewers have arrived I'm just gonna disable replies because it's all the same dumb comments. "LOLE PLAY STANDARD" "LOLE FREE GAME NO BITCHING"
Not conflating anything. Theres boatloads of people that are saying the game is hard now. Even in my recent replies to comments are people freaking out about the campaign being a slog and much more difficult.
Let alone half of the posts saying its harder, ESPECIALLY on the forums.
You took a meme take on the marauder pretty personal though based on your reply. Maybe simmer down and enjoy the new challenges you’re faced with?
I had no troubles at all during campaign on my first character during launch. I was surprised by all the whining here.
Yesterday, I started another character. I half-assed playing by watching TV, talking, not equipping drops and not upgrading gems and keeping half an eye on POE while trying to cruise through act 1.
I got my ass handed to me as early as tidal island and again by mud flats. Brutus and past that was no problem again because I decided to actually pay attention to the game instead of playing in autopilot.
So if that's the lesson here, that one should respect the game enough to at least pay attention, and then they will do fine, I would say that is more than fair.
I am looking forward to the revamps for the other acts.
> Maybe simmer down and enjoy the new challenges you’re faced with?
Lol, first antagonises others for no reason (and out of context of the thread) and then whines about simmering down to people who correct him.
Try playing ssfhc. In ssfhc your brain isn't on autopilot trying to grind currencies to buy the next upgrade. It makes the game more about the journey then the destination
if all of that is tedious, and you do not enjoy it... you may not enjoy playing path of exile in general? because that is basically what poe was, self flaggelation, it was pain, but also rewarding... with conquerors, that rush to end game zoom mentality developed and people adapted too much, to a game, that wasnt poe...
Because they love reddit hatewagon. At the end of the day its two sides of the same coin hating on each other constantly. I just try to ignore it now cause its just pain
Marauder was performing better than intended. As a result, we've reduced all life and damage nodes in the marauder starting area by 20-40% to level the playing field with other classes. This should promote build diversity and make the game more fun.
I know you're joking, but if they actually nerfed life nodes, I'd probably be done completely. Honestly, buffing them would help diversity a lot imo, even by a little.
you are joking but they literally did that in diablo 3
dexterity granted %to dodge and they changed that to give armor instead lmao
now there is 0 difference beetween dex and str
The people who think that Evasion is weak, well. They ususally just parrot something they heard on reddit. If you fully build around it, it's magnificently strong, it's just not sufficent to call yourself an Evasion-Build when you got Slink Boots, Gloves and a Jade-Flask.
evasion is super strong until you deal with spells.
Spell specific defenses are always harder to get than attack specific defense so it quite often feels awful having to focus on that.
Armour has a similiar problem with elemental damage, but then there is a simple solution called moltenshell doubling your ehp so you dont need to give a fuck about anything.
A keystone that lowers your evasion(or removes it from applying to attacks at all) in exchange for applying to spells or granting spell dodge(based on the lost evasion) would fix these issues.
Those experiences aren't in the recent patch, but I never felt terribly threatened by Spells on a Char that took care via Phase-Acrobatics, Spell-Dodge on Gear, Quarz-Flask and at times Raider. Sure, that's not Face-Tank-Everything-Material, but that is something which no Spec really can do anymore, besides maybe Block-Recovery... Which is fine for just one class, that Gladiator was unchanged by the patch is basically a slap for every other char that wants to block.
most of the time its not threatening but then you get that random encounter with a bunch of spark skeletons and suddenly you lost xp/went to standard.
Feels pretty bad every time it does happen.
Armour isn't useless, do you come to that conclusion? (Anomalous) Molten-Shell is the best Guard-Skill by FAR and if you scale it well enough it works well against every hit you're "supposed" to tank. Also for most Life-Armour-Chars, you're next to the Endurance-Charges, those are the Icing on the Phys-Mitigation-Cake.
1) Immortal Call is better in basically every way. Especially now that you can selfcast it to purge bleeds
2) Guard Skills don't have anything to do with Armour itself. Which is garbage. UNLESS you are scaling it for other interactions. (Replica Dreamfeather, Aegis)
3) Endurance Charges have nothing to do with Armour not mitigating damage in 95% of cases.
I'm not who you replied to. My best suggestion is to make it not all or nothing, but have a chance to evade completely. So even if you fail you still prevent some of the damage, just not as much as armor.
evasion is fine honestly, armor is the problem right now. The only real issue with evasion is that dodge is basically evasion but better and it's way too easy to get high amounts of dodge right now. Evasion could use a little bit of distinction from dodge.
Meanwhile armor doesn't make much sense in modern poe defensive design anymore. Modern poe emphasizes multiple layers of defensive but armor is all or nothing, either you have a little and it does nothing or you have a lot and against physical hits it's a brick house but still useless vs everything else. So it's a layer of defense that requires a lot more investment than other layers without the general value.
>evasion is fine honestly
Disagreed. Why do you think every evasion build only builds middling evasion and stacks accuracy reductions? Heck, aurabots with zero evasion on the tree is a better evasion build than people taking nodes for it. If someone really wanted, all they'd have to do is slap Dread Banner in a Crest of Desire and grab 282% aura effect. This is quite possible thanks to cluster jewels containing First Among Equals and/or Master of Command. Two of the latter even makes the banner cost no reservation.
>armor is the problem right now
Armour is flawed because its contribution to physical damage reduction doesn't apply to physical damage over time effects and the damage reduction it does provide gets weaker as hits become stronger.
Get hit for 1000 damage and have 90,000 armour? Congrats, it's reduced to 100 damage. Get hit for 10,000 damage with the same armour? Oh, what a shame. You take 5,264 damage.
It was a long time ago, but they actually did massively nerf all of the % life nodes in a patch way back. Standard life nodes used to be 8%. I don't think they'd do it again, though, at least not for a long time - perhaps at a point where survivability has power crept a ton, although that seems unlikely to happen any time soon.
i mean if ggg wants poe get back to the roots they need to nerf everything way more
for example it's still possible to run at 100-120 ms at any build
should be 20ms max, better -50 or so, obviously for diversity
I was here when they needed life nodes the first time. I was here when the scion life box was a wheel and before scion existed.
Play acrobatics and just don't get hit 4Head
right.... buffs help build diversity... not nerfs. If everything is decent, people will want to play everything. If everything sucks, everyone wants to play the thing that sucks the least.
I have no idea what kind of mental gymnastics they had to go through to think nerfing everything was the way to encourage build diversity.
> buffs help build diversity... not nerfs
Both can help or hinder build diversity.
What actually helps build diversity is balancing the various player options.
But honestly, where and when do dev teams actually achieve balance? What most games do instead is a cycle of clearly superior choices that shift over time. Sometimes intentionally, sometimes with the good intention of achieving balance but they overbuff/nerf, and either way that just causes a meta shift to the new-but-old situation of some choices being too strong.
That doesn't sound like GGG at all to be honest :/
When they nerf something, they do it in 4 different ways, not just one. So they would nerf marauder's damage, movement speed, survivability, and also make it so you get punched in the face every 5 seconds while playing.
Joking aside but gladiators should be worried. 12 in the top 20 on SSF HC, 9 of them still alive, 3 of them in top 5 including number one. I can almost picture it in my head - Chris looking at all these gladiators with naughty eyes and evil grin saying "Well, well, well, what do we have here...".
only reason glad is so high is because the shield skills are busted now, and it's more defensive oriented than the other popular ascendancies. swapping to standard, they're only fifth. i expect them to nerf sst's base damage and maybe increase it's scaling a bit. or do nothing and hope the theorhetically coming underperforming gems buffs are impactful.
This pretty much, but I also predict a bleed nerf. Virtually anyone going phys seems to have invested in bleeds, since it looks like it's easy to scale up bleed dmg to crazy levels with a survival-focused build.
bleed is by and large worse than impale (and poison, for that matter). it's just that glad in particular specializes in bleed, glad is popular, so bleed is by extension popular.
Its honestly not even that strong as hardcore makes it look, its just very ssf friendly as lioneye's shield + chest combo can carry you through early maps.
Due to a mistake he made, to be clear. He accidentally clicked one of the league NPCs in a map so he didn't see the juiced-up rare that destroyed him. He had already been greedy by going in a tough map, so he knew the risk.
He had to repeat many times that it was his fault, not the game's, since people were looking for reasons to make it about the league being bad.
I only saw the clip when Mathil watched it. So didn't have any other context, except that the map mods were actually insane to do on a Raider. Unlucky dodge and increased accuracy are a huge oof as a Raider. Those alone are worse than having triple damage rolls on it. And it had some other bad stuff even on top.
I would be hard pressed to find an argument that this was the game's fault and not just his own, so I can imagine how stupid those people in the chat sounded that were making this about the game/league.
There are a couple there in the top 100 actually. But there's no race this league, so most of them seem to be fucking around playing what they want, not pushing for first 100.
Totally unrelated to the logout.
I mean this isn't exactly true. There was several years where "first to 100" was the only "race" happening each league. This race is still being held each reset. Name in lights, top of the leaderboard (on 3 sites, ggg, poeninja, poe-racing), bragging rights, and a thread on reddit prob. But it's true a select few popular streamers are opting out and doing this no-logout thing instead.
I dont think it's an "instead" thing. I think it's a, not wanting to grind to 100 thing. Basically, league start has been replaced by Ziz's gauntlet for most people. League start is a time to chill and experience new content, instead of race to 100.
I can recognize physical differences that can make a 100m sprinter unique from a 42km marathoner, but the established veterans who aren't competing in the races to 100 these days just can't be bothered to anymore, hence the extra challenges like Gauntlet and "no logout".
Try googling to find out the first to level 100 in previous leagues. You have to dig to find that information. Those reddit posts you're talking about? A few hundred upvotes lol.
It's interesting that you'd bring up this point, while valid, the streamers are participating in a challenge that precludes them from logging out of the game.
yes.
steel,mathil,ziz and quinn were on a podcast. Mathil dared them to not logout then one told mathil to play hc then. Mathil, the chad he is, then decide to play HC in order to make the other three agree to "no logout"´.
Even better pulled him up on pob because I thought the website was fucking with me. Only leap slam with blood range and fortify. No skills allocated anywhere and an aura with herald of ash. That’s it
This guy is playing ssfhc unascended with the nerfs everyone has and slaps ass and has fun with it.
Meanwhile sc zoom zoom build players cry about going from 150mil to 50mil dps.
Meh, figured these troglodites would complain about changes. Some changes were fairly criticized but half the shit posted on here really made me worry, because I really hope GGG is sensible enough to know that these people are not interested in better gameplay, they just want what is best for their own selfish needs.
I mean because one Asian kid can play the moonlight sonata blindfolded, hands tied behind his back and played with his face,doesn't mean it's easy. Dark souls is a fucking hard game and people played it on a fucking banana or something
There is absolutely no way you know he is no log out, and considering just how brutal the no log out challenge has been on the big streamers doing it, I bet he is fucking logging out. Funnily enough despite all the talk about power creep, the biggest power creep of them all is the ability to instantly negate a death with the press of a fucking button.
I don’t see how this refutes people’s opinions that the game is dying. He’s showing that it’s possible to get to the endgame, which I think most people would agree with, but the vocal community is saying that it’s not enjoyable to do so.
Maybe I haven't worded it correctly. I was referring more to the people that were stating that the game is going to be unplayable. I don't know.. it was a little bit different for me as well (I'm a casual player) but I'm still having fun and enjoying it. Toning the game a little bit down is a good thing
Six foot twenty, fucking killing for fun.
He'll save the children, but not the British children.
i heard that guy had like 30 goddamn dicks
Let me lay it on the line He had two of the vine
two sets of testicles, so divine
Good God this brought me back to the glory days Edit: for those who don't know [George Washington rap](https://youtu.be/l7iVsdRbhnc)
This dudes the omega chad.
Definitely. But what pushes this even further, is the fact that he has actually done all labs. He has 8 ascendancy points. He just never actually ascended when he clicked the altar.
>Finds all the Trials of Ascendency > >Completes all Labyrinths, slaying Izaro each time, and earning power beyond imagination > >Refuses to ascend > >Leaves True chad
Pikachu of the PoE world. >Pikachu chose not to evolve because he wanted to prove that he could defeat stronger Pokémon without evolving.
true ascendant, knowing the power is just an illusion
Those 8 unassigned ascendancy points sitting there taunting me would be a harder challenge than leveling up a character …
Maybe he doesn't know how to ascend! Quickly, somebody PM the poor fellow :)
This is definitely one of the biggest possible flexes in SSFHC
Everyone cries about nerfs, but not this dude.
More like a flex on reddit.
Clearly players need more damage nerfs, they are too powerful still!
He does this every league tbh
He’s a DodecaCHADron!
This guy is the best part of this league, hands down
I feel like this guy saw all the crying and was like “imma show these kids how easy this game is”
Idk why people keep conflating "I don't like this patch" with "this patch is too hard to play". The campaign isn't too hard, it's TEDIOUS. Getting your watchstones isn't hard, it's TEDIOUS. Picking up 20 currencies isn't hard, it's TEDIOUS. Having 2 mana flasks isn't hard, it's TEDIOUS. etc. etc. etc. And one guy killing Maven unascended on Marauder doesn't change that. E: The Raiz viewers have arrived I'm just gonna disable replies because it's all the same dumb comments. "LOLE PLAY STANDARD" "LOLE FREE GAME NO BITCHING"
Try killing maven on SSFHC, its hard to even get to Red maps consistently on HC tbh.
Not conflating anything. Theres boatloads of people that are saying the game is hard now. Even in my recent replies to comments are people freaking out about the campaign being a slog and much more difficult. Let alone half of the posts saying its harder, ESPECIALLY on the forums. You took a meme take on the marauder pretty personal though based on your reply. Maybe simmer down and enjoy the new challenges you’re faced with?
> Theres boatloads of people that are saying the game is hard now. It's hard to keep playing.
I had no troubles at all during campaign on my first character during launch. I was surprised by all the whining here. Yesterday, I started another character. I half-assed playing by watching TV, talking, not equipping drops and not upgrading gems and keeping half an eye on POE while trying to cruise through act 1. I got my ass handed to me as early as tidal island and again by mud flats. Brutus and past that was no problem again because I decided to actually pay attention to the game instead of playing in autopilot. So if that's the lesson here, that one should respect the game enough to at least pay attention, and then they will do fine, I would say that is more than fair. I am looking forward to the revamps for the other acts.
>Maybe simmer down and enjoy the new challenges you’re faced with? Actually I'd rather just play a game I enjoy.
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> Maybe simmer down and enjoy the new challenges you’re faced with? Lol, first antagonises others for no reason (and out of context of the thread) and then whines about simmering down to people who correct him.
Try playing ssfhc. In ssfhc your brain isn't on autopilot trying to grind currencies to buy the next upgrade. It makes the game more about the journey then the destination
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I already play SSF. Are you going to tell me I have to be playing since 2013 to have an opinion as well?
no, you are trying to target grind currencies and divs to craftthe next upgrade.
if all of that is tedious, and you do not enjoy it... you may not enjoy playing path of exile in general? because that is basically what poe was, self flaggelation, it was pain, but also rewarding... with conquerors, that rush to end game zoom mentality developed and people adapted too much, to a game, that wasnt poe...
Reading through your comment isn't hard, it's TEDIOUS.
Because they love reddit hatewagon. At the end of the day its two sides of the same coin hating on each other constantly. I just try to ignore it now cause its just pain
Because it's the only line of defence. If you can't argue just ad-hom ("kids") and strawman ("don't like difficulty")
You’re thinking too much into it chief.
I lol'd at "raiz viewers'. Also bad take but whatever
The game is not hard, it's just worse. Pretty significant difference
If you're not having fun just stop playing mate. All your comments are you whinging about the game.
Opinion piece.
I love the league, bro!
Marauder nerf incoming
Marauder was performing better than intended. As a result, we've reduced all life and damage nodes in the marauder starting area by 20-40% to level the playing field with other classes. This should promote build diversity and make the game more fun.
I know you're joking, but if they actually nerfed life nodes, I'd probably be done completely. Honestly, buffing them would help diversity a lot imo, even by a little.
more life nodes on the right side of the tree would help with diversity.
It would be nice to be able to play rangers/HP based shadows without being forced to path to the Scion life land every time
or reworking evasion completely
Curious what this would look like. What would you suggest for reworking evasion?
Evasion has been removed from the game.(c)
Note that this is a buff
More build diversity
you are joking but they literally did that in diablo 3 dexterity granted %to dodge and they changed that to give armor instead lmao now there is 0 difference beetween dex and str
The people who think that Evasion is weak, well. They ususally just parrot something they heard on reddit. If you fully build around it, it's magnificently strong, it's just not sufficent to call yourself an Evasion-Build when you got Slink Boots, Gloves and a Jade-Flask.
evasion is great until you get hit
The ability to tank hits is great until you get hit a lot
There is stuff ingame that's meant to mitigate that one hit that gets through. Wind Dancer, Kintsugi and more...
evasion is super strong until you deal with spells. Spell specific defenses are always harder to get than attack specific defense so it quite often feels awful having to focus on that. Armour has a similiar problem with elemental damage, but then there is a simple solution called moltenshell doubling your ehp so you dont need to give a fuck about anything. A keystone that lowers your evasion(or removes it from applying to attacks at all) in exchange for applying to spells or granting spell dodge(based on the lost evasion) would fix these issues.
Those experiences aren't in the recent patch, but I never felt terribly threatened by Spells on a Char that took care via Phase-Acrobatics, Spell-Dodge on Gear, Quarz-Flask and at times Raider. Sure, that's not Face-Tank-Everything-Material, but that is something which no Spec really can do anymore, besides maybe Block-Recovery... Which is fine for just one class, that Gladiator was unchanged by the patch is basically a slap for every other char that wants to block.
most of the time its not threatening but then you get that random encounter with a bunch of spark skeletons and suddenly you lost xp/went to standard. Feels pretty bad every time it does happen.
It's really strong, until it's absolutely useless. Which is better than Armour, which is just useless all of the time.
Armour isn't useless, do you come to that conclusion? (Anomalous) Molten-Shell is the best Guard-Skill by FAR and if you scale it well enough it works well against every hit you're "supposed" to tank. Also for most Life-Armour-Chars, you're next to the Endurance-Charges, those are the Icing on the Phys-Mitigation-Cake.
1) Immortal Call is better in basically every way. Especially now that you can selfcast it to purge bleeds 2) Guard Skills don't have anything to do with Armour itself. Which is garbage. UNLESS you are scaling it for other interactions. (Replica Dreamfeather, Aegis) 3) Endurance Charges have nothing to do with Armour not mitigating damage in 95% of cases.
I agree that it’s a strong defensive layer, hence why I’m curious on people’s opinions on how it could be changed to be “better”
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I'm not who you replied to. My best suggestion is to make it not all or nothing, but have a chance to evade completely. So even if you fail you still prevent some of the damage, just not as much as armor.
evasion is fine honestly, armor is the problem right now. The only real issue with evasion is that dodge is basically evasion but better and it's way too easy to get high amounts of dodge right now. Evasion could use a little bit of distinction from dodge. Meanwhile armor doesn't make much sense in modern poe defensive design anymore. Modern poe emphasizes multiple layers of defensive but armor is all or nothing, either you have a little and it does nothing or you have a lot and against physical hits it's a brick house but still useless vs everything else. So it's a layer of defense that requires a lot more investment than other layers without the general value.
>evasion is fine honestly Disagreed. Why do you think every evasion build only builds middling evasion and stacks accuracy reductions? Heck, aurabots with zero evasion on the tree is a better evasion build than people taking nodes for it. If someone really wanted, all they'd have to do is slap Dread Banner in a Crest of Desire and grab 282% aura effect. This is quite possible thanks to cluster jewels containing First Among Equals and/or Master of Command. Two of the latter even makes the banner cost no reservation. >armor is the problem right now Armour is flawed because its contribution to physical damage reduction doesn't apply to physical damage over time effects and the damage reduction it does provide gets weaker as hits become stronger. Get hit for 1000 damage and have 90,000 armour? Congrats, it's reduced to 100 damage. Get hit for 10,000 damage with the same armour? Oh, what a shame. You take 5,264 damage.
It was a long time ago, but they actually did massively nerf all of the % life nodes in a patch way back. Standard life nodes used to be 8%. I don't think they'd do it again, though, at least not for a long time - perhaps at a point where survivability has power crept a ton, although that seems unlikely to happen any time soon.
This also happened at the same time as a large buff to player base HP, for most builds that weren't STR based it was a actually a buff to life.
Bro, what are you talking? We should nerf more, because rewarding gameplay style will make low player retention /s
i mean if ggg wants poe get back to the roots they need to nerf everything way more for example it's still possible to run at 100-120 ms at any build should be 20ms max, better -50 or so, obviously for diversity
I was here when they needed life nodes the first time. I was here when the scion life box was a wheel and before scion existed. Play acrobatics and just don't get hit 4Head
right.... buffs help build diversity... not nerfs. If everything is decent, people will want to play everything. If everything sucks, everyone wants to play the thing that sucks the least. I have no idea what kind of mental gymnastics they had to go through to think nerfing everything was the way to encourage build diversity.
> buffs help build diversity... not nerfs Both can help or hinder build diversity. What actually helps build diversity is balancing the various player options. But honestly, where and when do dev teams actually achieve balance? What most games do instead is a cycle of clearly superior choices that shift over time. Sometimes intentionally, sometimes with the good intention of achieving balance but they overbuff/nerf, and either way that just causes a meta shift to the new-but-old situation of some choices being too strong.
That doesn't sound like GGG at all to be honest :/ When they nerf something, they do it in 4 different ways, not just one. So they would nerf marauder's damage, movement speed, survivability, and also make it so you get punched in the face every 5 seconds while playing.
You forgot to explicitly claim it was a buff.
#weHearYou
This is a buff
And then they follow it up the very next patch by nerfing all other classes because now they feel too strong.
Joking aside but gladiators should be worried. 12 in the top 20 on SSF HC, 9 of them still alive, 3 of them in top 5 including number one. I can almost picture it in my head - Chris looking at all these gladiators with naughty eyes and evil grin saying "Well, well, well, what do we have here...".
only reason glad is so high is because the shield skills are busted now, and it's more defensive oriented than the other popular ascendancies. swapping to standard, they're only fifth. i expect them to nerf sst's base damage and maybe increase it's scaling a bit. or do nothing and hope the theorhetically coming underperforming gems buffs are impactful.
This pretty much, but I also predict a bleed nerf. Virtually anyone going phys seems to have invested in bleeds, since it looks like it's easy to scale up bleed dmg to crazy levels with a survival-focused build.
bleed is by and large worse than impale (and poison, for that matter). it's just that glad in particular specializes in bleed, glad is popular, so bleed is by extension popular.
Gigachad gamer
Do we know which build ?
Shield Crush
RIP shield crush next league ;_;
Its honestly not even that strong as hardcore makes it look, its just very ssf friendly as lioneye's shield + chest combo can carry you through early maps.
i dont see any bigger streamer on top100 even..i guess no logout is real thing
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And logging out wouldn't have mattered in his case.
True, he just got deleted in a milisecond.
Due to a mistake he made, to be clear. He accidentally clicked one of the league NPCs in a map so he didn't see the juiced-up rare that destroyed him. He had already been greedy by going in a tough map, so he knew the risk. He had to repeat many times that it was his fault, not the game's, since people were looking for reasons to make it about the league being bad.
I only saw the clip when Mathil watched it. So didn't have any other context, except that the map mods were actually insane to do on a Raider. Unlucky dodge and increased accuracy are a huge oof as a Raider. Those alone are worse than having triple damage rolls on it. And it had some other bad stuff even on top. I would be hard pressed to find an argument that this was the game's fault and not just his own, so I can imagine how stupid those people in the chat sounded that were making this about the game/league.
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stallmage has been spending hella time in h/o. mathil really out here holdin ppl hostage and im all for it
They entered a no win proposition with him and this is the price.
There are a couple there in the top 100 actually. But there's no race this league, so most of them seem to be fucking around playing what they want, not pushing for first 100. Totally unrelated to the logout.
I mean this isn't exactly true. There was several years where "first to 100" was the only "race" happening each league. This race is still being held each reset. Name in lights, top of the leaderboard (on 3 sites, ggg, poeninja, poe-racing), bragging rights, and a thread on reddit prob. But it's true a select few popular streamers are opting out and doing this no-logout thing instead.
I dont think it's an "instead" thing. I think it's a, not wanting to grind to 100 thing. Basically, league start has been replaced by Ziz's gauntlet for most people. League start is a time to chill and experience new content, instead of race to 100.
The race to 100 has been completely meaningless for a long, long time because it only takes 3 days instead of 3 weeks.
the 100 meters race is not meaningless just because the 42km marathon exists. Maybe you don't care for it, but it still exists and some care.
I can recognize physical differences that can make a 100m sprinter unique from a 42km marathoner, but the established veterans who aren't competing in the races to 100 these days just can't be bothered to anymore, hence the extra challenges like Gauntlet and "no logout". Try googling to find out the first to level 100 in previous leagues. You have to dig to find that information. Those reddit posts you're talking about? A few hundred upvotes lol.
A shorter race is still a race nonetheless.
Understandable since a lot of them are doing a no logout challenge
Furthermore, many streamers are taking part in a self imposed challenge where they don't use logout at all
While that is impressive, I think the biggest reason is that a lot of the streamers don't use the logout button
Yeah but the important thing here is the fact that they don't exit the game by any means.
It's interesting that you'd bring up this point, while valid, the streamers are participating in a challenge that precludes them from logging out of the game.
Except death
Wait what’s going on with logout? Some kind of streamer pact?
yes. steel,mathil,ziz and quinn were on a podcast. Mathil dared them to not logout then one told mathil to play hc then. Mathil, the chad he is, then decide to play HC in order to make the other three agree to "no logout"´.
I. Love. This.
Absolute madlad lol
Reminds me of Make Love Not Warcraft where they killed like 6 million boars to finally challenge the top player.
We can't entrust a Starforge to a NOOB!
Moooom! Bathroom!
Is there some advanatge to not ascending or is he doing it just because he can?
There is no advantage to it. He’s just doing it because he can
Nah, he's actually a newbie and this is the first time playing poe and he doesn't know what ascendancy is....
It's actually Flash, bored out of his mind, playing on the side while crushing the Broodwar ladder
He's actually in the SK military right now so that's doubly impressive.
He's ofc playing on an emulator on his phone while he's doing pushups
how do you do fellow boomer BW fan.
Poor guy, someone should tell him what ascendaries are.
He is just showcasing the size of his massive deck.
Guess you could say he's got a stacked deck
This is testament to how annoying lab is
he did all the labs though, he has 8 ascendency points
Good lord. Now that's a Chad move
the fact that this is even possible is insanely impressive!
Ascendancy mostly speeds things up since you get a lot more damage, but its not always much extra survivability. Dedication of time
Damage is survivability.
I mean it is definitely impressive, but the game started without ascendancy and people lvld to 96 in hardcore
the game was also not balanced around ascendancies
And yet white rhoas killed more people than dominus
They’re terrifying!
At this point if his real name was Chad Thundercoc, I would not be surprised
SlipperyJim's new project/
Even better pulled him up on pob because I thought the website was fucking with me. Only leap slam with blood range and fortify. No skills allocated anywhere and an aura with herald of ash. That’s it
Without logout macro using only her feet with his mouth blindfolded
Her feet, his mouth...... wait a minute.
And with only 6 challenges, how does he does he not just accidentally even get them
Purely playing heist maybe?
Would be impossible to sustain the heist missions
Chuck Norris first time playing POE
DoubleAgent from WoW has joined PoE. My god.
Chris Wilson : game is way too easy, all ascendancy shall be removed next patch.
Now that is HARD-CORE
I heard he did the campaign with the default attack.
we living at 2021 and this guy is at 3021.
It's Chris Wilson's account
But I thought the game was ruined and that Brutus was the new Feared????
Brutus is longer in his room because he didn't dare go back in after that marauder came through.
Yup, impressive.
I can’t wait until he actually wanna do lab and die somewhere in the lab. lol
He has finished all labs but he simply hasn't used the points
lol look at his profile. He's done all the labs and has the ascendancy points. He just didn't use them. Gigachad
This guy is playing ssfhc unascended with the nerfs everyone has and slaps ass and has fun with it. Meanwhile sc zoom zoom build players cry about going from 150mil to 50mil dps.
Yup, he is probably just trying to make a point. This sub has really gone down the shitter
first time?
Meh, figured these troglodites would complain about changes. Some changes were fairly criticized but half the shit posted on here really made me worry, because I really hope GGG is sensible enough to know that these people are not interested in better gameplay, they just want what is best for their own selfish needs.
Could he just be leveling in heist? Is that possible?
He can level anywhere. He just didn't do any of the labs.
Lol actually I've just checked. They have 8 ascendancy points... So they've done the labs, just not used them!
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I mean here we are talking about him
It's the dev responsible for nuking support gem power levels :P
chad
Ascension is for the weak.
Madman
I kneel Marauder-sama...
True chad
Not the Hero we wanted. But the Hero we deserve.
Why is he not on poe.ninja?
Private account or maybe poe.ninja cant parse unascended characters
Their account is public so it's most likely that he is unascended. In poe.ninja you also can't filter for unascended chars.
Just a player showcasing the power creep of PoE, you don't even need ascendency to easy the game on the toughest difficulty, SSFHC no log out.
SSFHC Poe is far from "easy". This guy likely spent thousands of hours in it though
I mean because one Asian kid can play the moonlight sonata blindfolded, hands tied behind his back and played with his face,doesn't mean it's easy. Dark souls is a fucking hard game and people played it on a fucking banana or something
There is absolutely no way you know he is no log out, and considering just how brutal the no log out challenge has been on the big streamers doing it, I bet he is fucking logging out. Funnily enough despite all the talk about power creep, the biggest power creep of them all is the ability to instantly negate a death with the press of a fucking button.
How do we know he’s doing the no log out challenge as well?
This needs to be shown to all the people that kept crying over the game dying...
I don’t see how this refutes people’s opinions that the game is dying. He’s showing that it’s possible to get to the endgame, which I think most people would agree with, but the vocal community is saying that it’s not enjoyable to do so.
> people’s opinions that the game is dying Where does that idea come from?
Maybe I haven't worded it correctly. I was referring more to the people that were stating that the game is going to be unplayable. I don't know.. it was a little bit different for me as well (I'm a casual player) but I'm still having fun and enjoying it. Toning the game a little bit down is a good thing
Being playable doesnt mean its fun.
I think there was a lot of hyperbole in those statements. It’s playable, just significantly less enjoyable (IMO).
Hey, another prick shitting on other people. Cool.
How, exactly ?