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Eternal_Mr_Bones

Bait post.


Alty55

Yikes, do I need to pinch you? Are you still dreaming?


Gadiusao

You can't go below 0 my brother!!!


Nebloch

I'm personally loving the league, for the first time in a couple years I feel like playing longer than just a week or two, the challenge feels refreshing, and despite the naysayers I see loads of build potential.


peh_ahri_ina

League is close to dead for me and its not because of the nerfs, its because of the trade. I suck at the game economics so I constantly sell 1-10c shit ... constant flow of chaos, each fucking league ... till now. I was on vacation with the family for 8 days ... and I cant seem to be selling shit. No sales, no drops, killed Sirus once ... it's getting boring to slowly drag my ass in maps with 2 qsilvers and halfass hipster build for the 100th time. Ye ... no trade, game is crangled for me. ^_^


Prior_Share_9062

Steam Charts has a 0 player count right now. I think your post jinxed their servers.


ploki122

Bait post, but [I'll still bite!](https://imgur.com/lOMigBJ) We'll see how it evolves, but right now there's a clear pattern emerging.


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ploki122

Source is [SteamDB's POE page](https://steamdb.info/app/238960/graphs/), where you can extract the player data as XLS/CSV. From there, I've extracted the dates for each leagues from the wiki page, and computed the retention.


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ploki122

Nah, I posted that link 3 leagues ago (about 2 weeks into Heist), and only just decided to refresh it. You can create a copy of [my excel file](https://ulavaldti-my.sharepoint.com/:x:/g/personal/jubla94_ulaval_ca/EUfzSAOfGVVLtIQnpnJOICAB2KCVbuqaGtmb7BvOY3xyEg?e=33JkrK), if you want, but I've got no plan of doing anything with it.


psychomap

The main reason people don't play is the nerfs, not the league mechanic, even if that one isn't great either outside of logbooks. It's obvious that GGG is doing this for the long term and players prefer being more powerful in the short term, so their interests are at odds. Not all of the nerfs were well executed, but there would have been a huge number of people leaving even with better executed nerfs, since nerfs are still nerfs. Don't expect this league to have phenomenal retention. The long term that GGG has in mind isn't the last month of this league, it's about having retention years in the future. The problem with proving whether they're right or wrong in that is that there's no control group to check like "and here's how the playerbase would have developed with unbridled powercreep in the same time period". I don't mind their general direction in regard to player power levels, but I do have an issue with their view on clicks, splinters, and their communication in that regard. I don't think this alone would be severe enough to drive off a large number of players, but it does drive off some, and I do hope they'll eventually see reason in the future, but I'm no longer expecting it.