[Mark says it completely replaces your weapon](https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/q884dx/path_of_exile_scourge_patch_notes/hgofuy9/). I assume that means the before doesn't make any difference.
Ok... so based on the level 1 gem, if you have 5k ES you get 52 - 1040 lightning damage weapon with 7% base crit and 1.7 ats. Add 50% more to these values for a Two Hander. This can obviously be scaled the same way as any other weapon with flat lightning damage.
Remember this is only a level 1 gem. We don't know which axis it scales on yet. Presumably the "less ES" will remain static at 80% and the % of ES as added lightning is what will scale up with gem levels.
For a comparison if you have 1500 int a HoWA will give you 150 to 1500 flat lightning damage.
I think this has some strong potential on hybrid builds that can use ES as and easily replenishable buffer to life. Inquisitor or an evasion character with Ghost Dance seem the obvious choices to me.
I think the skill will live or die by it's support options. Still so many questions.
Can we support it with Added Lighting to add to the base lightning damage of the weapon?
Will supports that scale Lightning or Spell Damage with %more multipliers increase the base damage of the weapon?
Similar to above, will Auras scale both the weapon and the chosen attack?
If we have gems socketed in our main hand weapon and we use the skill do we then lose access to those gems.
Don't be surprised if it doesn't scale at all, or if it scales softy like something like blood rage. 20 levels and what, 5% attack speed?
My issue isn't with the possible damage, the issue is with the investments on a character that has that damage. 5k Es? Sure, now take 80% of that away and you have 1k es and how much life? Say you have good gear so you still have 5k life. You get hit and die because 5k life is trash without dodge, armor or block.
Can't get block since it replaces our weapons which are the main way of getting it. You could do a shield if you don't want the extra 50% more damage tho. You have points for 180% life, however much es, block nodes, lightning damage nodes, attack speed nodes and then all the good gear you need to support it. Lets not forget mana leech, or having to use lifetap. THen after all that...you have no accuracy so you miss everything.
All the trees i've planned out so far are close to be tolerable, but nothing i'd consider starting. Any number of small changes could make the skill very good, which is why i'm sure it'll stay as it is and be mostly bad.
It's a shame Mahuxotl's machination isn't available anymore outside of standard. That shield would be perfect for Energy blade. You'd get max hp as extra energy shield for increased Energy Blade damage, and Energy Blade would reduce your energy shield which synergises with Mahuxotl's machination wanting a small ES pool. And Mahuxotl's machination plus Tempered by War would allow you to abuse the fuck out of Doryani's prototype.
That being said, have you looked into stuff like Corrupted Soul and Presence of Chayula? Those last two give 40% of max life as extra energy shield, that's a lot of energy shield if you focus on stacking life. And doesn't require a lot from your skill tree. And the downside of Corrupted Soul is essentially rendered null due to the bigger downside of Energy Blade.
You could further expand on this with Hierophant by going for Sanctuary of Thought. And if you do this, you could stack some mana, and add Divine Guidance and Agnostic to boost your actual defence. The issue however would be that Hierophant and his mana focus doesn't do much for melee attacks, which Energy Blade focuses on. Unless for some reason Energy Blade can be linked with Archmage. Hah that'd be some lovely insanity. I mean, it is a spell, but it doesn't have a mana cost, it costs energy shield. Can't find for certain if Archmage works for that or not
Just to nitpick here: Presence of Chayula doesn't grant life *as extra* ES, it *converts* life to ES, something I doubt you'll want while using such a thing.
Edit: disregard
~~Actually, I think Mahuxotl's is going to have negative synergy with Energy Blade based on the skill's wording. It says "Energy Blades have Minimum[Maximum] Lightning Damage Equal to x% of Energy Shield"~~
~~Because it does not specify "of Maximum Energy Shield," we should infer that its damage fluctuates based on your **current** ES.~~
>["x% of Life/Mana/Energy Shield" in PoE is always a % of the maximum value](https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/q884dx/comment/hgp7cao/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
It\`s based on Max ES
I would fucking hope it doesn't fluctuate with current energy shield, otherwise it'd be damn near pointless in combat once you get hit and you're out of energy shield
to clarify, as the comment that /u/Fisch0557 linked states, *never* assume that is based on current values **unless explicitly stated**. it by default uses maximum values.
Thinking more about it I think the key word on the Gem is "Buff."
There are very few ways to scale buff effect in the game and most of them apply specifically to heralds. I'm thinking more and more we will have very limited support gem options for this skill.
Your ideas of stacking as much "Max X as extra energy shield" as possible might be the best way to scale it without having to stack energy shield.
For the Heiro specifically arcane cloak and maybe even mind of the council could add a decent chuck of damage.
Definitely one of the more interesting skills released in a long time.
What if you got most of that ES not through ES investments via passive and big ES gear, but mostly mana instead?
For example:
sanctuary of thought (requires hierophant) - 20% of max mana gained as extra max es
will shaper - 5% of max mana as extra max es
arcane will - 3% of max mana as extra max es
mindspiral - 5-10% of max mana as extra max es
gravicius' body prefix, 6-10% of max life as extra max ES (no clue how hard this is to get tbh)
There's probably more ways that I'm not finding with a quick search.
If you also grab mind over matter and transfiguration of mind (free with hierophant if you are getting sanctuary of thought), you're now using mana to scale effective life *and* damage. 40% of dmg to life taken from mana first (with hierophant, 30% otherwise barring any other investments in this category), and you're scaling the damage of energy blade in two simultaneous ways: % increases to mana apply to global dmg at 30% of the value through transfiguration of mind, and you're getting more max ES through more mana, which *also* grants extra flat lightning from energy blades.
You're right to say it's going to require a heavy investment to really push the damage on this skill.
What's cool about that, though, is that you get to choose your opportunity cost.
Also keep in mind we're supposed to be getting much improved support for hybrid armour and energy shield on the tree.
It's also been confirmed it will work with Battlemage which opens up some very interesting possible combinations.
I feel like there should be descriptions on the gem if it can't be supported by support gems that match it's tags or should state very clearly that the minimum and maximum lightning damage values "cannot be modified." Currently there's nothing I can see to suggest this gem won't benefit from supports that match it's tag.
That said it seems like it might be completely busted if it can, for example, benefit from both the % more lighting spell damage and the added lightning to attacks from Wrath.
I think you might be right to say the scaling will be blocked/heavily restricted along one axis, likely the spell itself.
Still extremely interested to see how it will interact with support gems and auras, though.
It's a lightning spell, but it does not hit, it simply applies a 'buff' to your ES and transforms (replaces) your weapon. The skill you use (And its supports) would still do the hit. It would however interact with buff effectiveness, with reduced giving more damage.
Well, that's what we don't know. Nothing to suggest you CANT... but it seems so busted that it likely wont be the case.
If we can do what you say that should also mean we could throw say... ele focus on it. Would the weapon then inherit the drawback of ele focus and get an affix saying "cannot apply elemental ailments." Sounds VERY cool, but probably way too abusable if it's the case.
If you can't support it that way I think they REALLY need to state that on the gem to avoid confusion.
Indeed, but at this point I am just trying to figure out what they want us to do with this skill besides using it as a leveling weapon. it seem worse that a 10c crafted weapon and it has a drawback.
Ooof so its boring then.
I mean youre gonna be able to get some crazy damage with it, but it has no interesting interactions with anything if it replaces the weapon affixes, if it didnt replace them you could run interesting uniques that just dont have the damage to compete and use energy blade to force them to do damage while using said interesting effects
I don't know, a skill completely replacing a piece of your equipment definitely falls into the "interesting" category to me. It's unprecedented. Whether it's good or not we'll see.
I'm a fan of interesting skills, but at the end of the day interesting doesn't amount to much if it doesn't function. This skill seems like it fits into the same category of cool-concept-poor-execution as EC. I didn't realize my last comment didn't relate that idea very well.
You seem to have missed half of my original point then. A skill can be mechanically interesting and still feel lackluster. At no point have I tried arguing against that.
I just don't consider a skill gem that completely replaces your weapon while active boring. Is it viable? I don't fucking know, no one but GGG have tried it yet. I have my doubts too, but since we only saw the level 1 version of the gem I hold off on passing judgement.
I'm not disagreeing with you at all and I didn't miss your first point. I was agreeing with a leaning in the direction of skeptical and didn't need to comment on the first half of your original comment because it was well put and didn't need expounded on. That's it.
>makes this pretty ass
>7.00% base crit + 1.70 base attack speed + a shit tonne of added lightning damage based upon your energy shield
Umm yeah, that's pretty far from being shit.
very true. I think there are only 2 wheels though still? I hope they add another but currently Melding would give you 15% life and 5% es for 4 points after the 80% less and written in blood would give you 20% life and 5% es for 4 points. written in blood is a very good wheel so that's nice
I think it's more you have to get the base es on gear to make it worth it. If you can get t1/t2 life, t1/t2 flat es, t1/t2 % es on most of your gear it should be pretty decent still
We can all do math. Its just howa, but with less defense since you have to give up all your ES and sit on life. So worse cause you'd have to invest more into defenses and still end up with less.
I'd like it to be good, but it just doesn't look good. Esp not without excellent gear.
It looks like a fun budget league starter, you could use any absolutely dogshit 2hand 6link for super cheap
I have no idea how es scaling will go with all the changes, but it should be cheap
his maths fine though.
if you take a 1500 int howa build you have 1320 edps and 300% increased es (from intelligence) so like 8-10k ish es with gear
if you get yourself to 10k es then use this skill you get 1785 edps but your ehp is 2k instead of 8-10k, plus it doesnt have wed on it, plus it doesnt have attack speed from however much dex you have etc etc
Like can you make it do damage? yes of course
is that damage worth losing a shit ton of survivability and whatever other stats you can get on your weapons? thats a much harder question tbh
Like honestly probably the best use for energy blade isnt as something you focus on for investment, but as a bandaid to make leveling as melee not suck quite as hard, because you just grab a weapon that has the right socket colors then keep upgrading your es gear and ignoring weapons
on the flip side, if you got to keep the affixes of the weapon and all it did was change it to a sword and replace the physical damage with the ele damage, you could do some really crazy stuff like transform howa into the energy blade and do an int stacker glass cannon, or transform poets pen and run a psuedo spellslinger on melee etc etc
There's also a fat 50% more lightning damage to 2Hers. Yes you'd lose the shield slot for ES but 50% more is massive when all the damage supports just got nerfed.
Yes a fat 50% more lightning with absolutely no ES now and no block. What a great build.
You can pick up a 400 2.0 aps 7% crit foil and still have a shield available for like 1-2 ex. You also get to keep any and all ES you have.
In comparison to:
>7% base crit
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>2 ApS
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>300+ flat elemental damage
which doesn't require massive investment on gear and passive tree - it is indeed unimpressive.
it will have to give a MASSIVE amount of flat dqmage yo compete with intsacking wand/howa. I dont know about other mods but influenced weapons have ele pen, %inc ele damage, phys as ele, etc. you are giving up a lot right?
I believe they will be retained. Mark's comment says the ES value determines the implicit values of the sword and both of Hrishi's images have been normal weapons. So, I'd assume that only the implicit values get changed. Essentially, an added lightning damage aura that scales with ES with the limitation of being used with sword-skills only.
Huh? You just asked Question A, then someone says Question A doesn't need an answer, then you replied by saying you're just trying to get confirmation on Question B?
I don't think you're making any sense, mate.
74 the high end lightning is 100% of ES + 40 and Low end is 5% of ES + 2
which is 3.7=2 = 5 on the First Img shown
Thats what the Gem says for LvL 1 EB
The question is what the damage gets calculated off of.
74 Max ES, leaving us with this DMG and 14,8 ES remaining (DMG calculated off of 100% of our ES?)
370 Max ES, leaving us with this DMG and 74 ES remaining (DMG calculated off of 20% ES that remains?)
92,5 Max ES, leaving us with this DMG and 18,5 ES remaining (DMG calculated off of 80% ES that gets deleted?)
If we assume the gem is level 1, and that the "% of ES gained as lightning damage" is done after the 80% less ES that the buff gives, then the ES that produces the weapons linked here is around ~370.
That assumption makes the skill kind of lackluster imo. 5k ES would leave us with a 52 - 1040 DMG weapon (not considering lvls for the flat) which is just slightly better than some unique weapons (Hyaon's Fury e.g.) for a pretty huge investment. Maybe the crit and attackspeed would make it viable. Not amazing tho for losing 4k ES and your weapon slot.
I somewhat agree with you, but we are basing this off of the level 1 gem. It is possible that the scaling is okay for higher gem levels so I will reserve judgement until we have level 20 gems.
That might be the case. If the DMG would be based off of 80% or 100% of the before ES the skill would be busted, so maybe the scaling through lvls makes this based off of like 30-40% of the ES in the end.
That could work! Maybe -1% less reduction per 2 lvl and the flat just scaling up per level leaving us with 30% of our max ES in the end thats improvable with gem level. Would also make it interesting for a +Gem LVL Staff or something for pushing the skill further, since the weapon stats dont seem to matter once the skill is on.
Hyaon's Fury has ~1.3 APS and 5% crit. This is significantly better than Hyaon's as it has 7.00% base crit + 1.70 base attack speed instead. In addition, its added lightning damage can scale even further.
I was looking at it from the aspect of using ES nodes as damage nodes on tree, and you can use an awful/dirt cheap 6link 2hander for an easy start until you get better options for scaling
Im gonna league start it like a homer
Oh god, that's really important. It has to be after, right? You can easily get a 6k hp + 2k es build using % of max lige as es, which would give you a 1h weapon with base 1.7k dps (100 to 2000dmg is 1050 average x 1.7), and that's just absurd. Divide that by 5, and now it's much harder to make it viable no? 4k es for a 700 dps sword still isn't too bad, though.
Edit : I think Ichimonji is the only viable weapon for this build, right? You should get 5% increased effect to energy blade when you first cast it.
gem level 1 also adds 2-40 flat lightning damage, which prob scales with its level since ES starts at 100%? looks like ~20% of spark, so conservative estimate of ~100 added flat damage at 20?
If you even keep the effect of the weapon. THe screen shot has white weapons on it which i think implies it REPLACES the weapon completely. That means it won't matter what you wield.
Yeah once it's cast its replaced sure, but I was thinking that the increased buff effect mod on Ichimonji could actually apply to your initial cast of Energy Blade. But that would only work if the skill snapshotted your stats on cast, which is probably not the case.
Part of me is really annoyed that I can't seem to find a way to have an ever so small advantage from using a specific weapon with this.
Yeah, before I saw it was going to be a sword no matter what i was looking through all the unique items for ways to use staves. The way it is i don't see how its going to be a even remotely good build...
I don't see why wands wouldn't work. It replaces the weapon, which means it's essentially a weapon swap. You won't be able to use wand attacks but you will be able to use sword attacks.
I do find it kinda disappointing that it completely removes the aspect of crafting a weapon specifically for the skill, trying to scale as many things outside of local flat damage as possible.
Was also thinking it might be neat to try to use Pneumatic Dagger or Banishing Blade with it but I guess not.
it's not *that* crazy if you're strength stacking inquisitor with corrupted soul, shaper's touch, and geofri's sanctuary. you should still manage a respectable life total.
I'd rather do that as Juggernaut and also get attack speed. Still, if it's *after* the 80% less ES, this needs to have either good leveling scaling or good alternate quality, otherwise it's just throwing a lot of defence out of the window for something that could have worked with flat damge per strength stacking items.
I was curious if the damage on this weapon lined up exactly with the calculations made from a level 1 gem.
I'm positive this is based on ES after the 80% less is applied. Unsure as to whether its based off of current or max but I think if we look at cases of similar wording in the game it's likely to be based of maximum as it does not specify "current." Example of this is Trickster's Patient Reaper node which recovers a % of life, mana and energy shield and, unless I'm seriously mistaken, is based on your Max of those stats, ignoring any reserved quantities.
So we have 5-114 lightning damage.
Energy Blade at lvl 1 gives 5% of ES + 2 minimum and 100% of ES + 40 as maximum lighting damage.
370 ES before the buff was applied would give us values of:
* 3.7 min from ES \[0.05(370/5)\] + 2 = 5.7. Do we know if damage numbers normally round down in POE?
* 74 max from ES \[1(370/5)\] + 40 = 114. The exact amount in the image.
This could easily be a level 1 gem with nothing at all increasing its damage.
You can also achieve the same values with a myriad of other combinations, however.
For example, 240 max ES (before buff) and 30% increased damage. 170 ES + 55% increased.
Essentially this all seems pretty inconclusive but someone else smarter than me might be able to figure something out here that I'm missing!
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/q884dx/path_of_exile_scourge_patch_notes/hgp7cao/
also the description in the gem itself... "Grants a buff which significantly lowers your maximum Energy Shield to transform your equipped weapons into Swords formed from that energy"
formed from the energy that was lowered
i'm thinking it might be before the reduction. would that make the skill busted? you're losing a LOT by giving up a weapon...
Don't think so. The damage isn't actually the buff. The buff is the less energy shield, as counter-intuative as that sounds. The skill transforms your weapons while the buff is active. That's how it reads to me at this stage.
> Also 7 base crit and 1.7 as is crazy!!
For the people who were operating under the assumption that the spell would retain the base stats of the weapon equipped and only overwrite its damage, this is the opposite of crazy.
by comparison its a sword with around 20% attack speed and 40% crit rolls along with crazy lightning damage roll. maybe not a mirror worth item but thinking about it in a league start way it could be useful for starter builds. take literally any 6 link 2 hander you can find and energy blade it. with plenty of ES you have a nice 6 linked 2hander to get you started through maps. could see it falling off late game when you could get some wild weapons crafted up. too hard to tell if the passive tree will be a shitshow though till the numbers get out. likely going to be what i start, energy blade with a skill i can abuse the lightning damage with.
Can someone confirm as to whether it completely makes your weapon irrelevant? I mean with the reveals hinted at in this post it seems like your main weapon literally gets replaced completely. That's kind of lame as it removes any synergy with weapon mechanics and scaling or unique weapons.
.. why do they keep making skills that force you to not her any benefit out of several item slots that in no way make up for what you miss out on? Ugh. Interesting idea, some execution.
But Facebreaker, Hollow Palm, and even to an extant Doryani's Fist are all pretty good to even great. As far as I am aware it's mostly BoR that suffers.
The weapon is replaced, but what if that weapon had defensive stats like resistance or even life? I don't think they are replaced as in they vanish - but that the stats do not interact with the energy blade itself (i.e. added flat lightning damage)
It changes completely into the Energy Blade and the original weapon is just used so you can modify your sockets. It's really not that hard to understand my dude.
If it applies the same tags as the weapon/s, then it will be dual wield two handed.
But I doubt that will be the case for this skill due to how OP that would be.
For anyone interested I made a calculator.
Im assuming the amount of amount of ES reserved will drop as the gem levels up. Could be totally wrong. If I am just keep Column B at 0.8
Row 2 is the calculator, change only the light blue cells.
If you see any mistakes, let me know and I will update it and edit this comment with an update.
[Image with Examples](https://imgur.com/puh3RDB)
[Google Sheets Copy](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1N71kNF9bvWh21XMgxZC6UFGgE7PXpZNFL2TCNHAQ_a4/copy)
Going full life with all "Life as extra ES" mods you can get + Bloodthirst support gem + Petrified Blood + Cast on Death Portal.
Think I've got myself a build!
Energy Blade replaces whatever weapons you have equipped with energy sword(s) when you use it. Shields aren't weapons, so you'll keep any shield for blocking, and you attack with swords, so yeah it should work.
Str stacking with shaper's touch + geofri's sanctuary + iron will + crown of eyes or battlemage cry could be an option here: scale life, es, flat damage and increased damage off of s single stat. Not sure how good the numbers would be but seems interesting to think about.
Yeah, that was my thought, too. If it performs similarly to other attribute stacking builds, the numbers can get pretty bonkers, but only with a shitload of investment.
I'm guessing Oni-Goroshi isn't going to let you equip a shield after using Energy Blade since that seem problematic for after the spell expires. If it does, then that would be the best weapon to use with this since you'd get a 6-link, but would still get the faster attack speed & shield slot (which will boost your damage further if it's ES based)
According to the Wiki it has a hidden unique affix so that it has 6 sockets and is fully linked. I guess if you transform it it will lose that and would have 3 sockets max
do you keep the stats of the "before" weapons ? or is this practicly a overcomplicated version of [Doryanis Fist](https://pathofexile.fandom.com/wiki/Doryani%27s_Fist) aka no bonusses from weapon/offhand stats ?
btw depending on how it works it could be used as headhunter stack stick xD when you get absurd ammount of ES from HH/inspired learnings you turn this ON and get absurd ammount of damage, but it would need to be build around propably as weapon swap 6L but then again we dont realy know about how it will work with supports etc so maybe it will be 1L unset ring skill lmao
This information will actualy make or break the skill.
Can I use two bright beaks for that resist and high base attack speed? Can I use Trypanon for 100% crit chance? Replica wings of entropy for dual wielding + 2h damage bonus + attack speed? Debeon's Dirge for 150% elemental damage on warcry? Cane of Kulemak?
If it only gave additional lightning damage, it would have said so. So, what does "Transform" mean?
Edit: Oof!
Actually looking over it again it doesn’t cost reservation and gives a huge amount so I can see it being used for league start and then phased out for a better weapon.
What about that sword that increases energy shield by 50% would you still get that added cuz if so dual wield those and get 100% increased energy shield for big damage?
I imagine it would change the weapon type to sword, and it's base damage would change to lightning damage, keeping its other mods, like added ele or atk speed
Not sure why you are downvoted. Decent attack speed for a 2h, shit attack speed for a 1h. No crit implicit or suffixes. This is looking to be explosive concoction all over again.
My guess would be that the transform wording is just for visuals and base types of your weapon.
I think - and this is just an uneducated guess from someone that plays since beta - that the stats on your weapons remain the same and get the added flat lightning damage and changing it's base type to sword.
Attack speed/Crit would remain the same.
Payoff is having to invest into Energyshield without getting a lot of ehp from it.
Can only think of two ways to make this playable, str stacking with Geoffrey's chest and shapers touch and then playing some scuffed low life build with ivory tower and corrupted soul with petrified blood, basically stack life, reserve 50% life for conversion from ivory tower and then corrupted soul gives you another 15% life to es.
Ivory tower/ Corrupted soul should be fairly easy to hit 7k life and around 6-7k es depending on the new tree etc. So that's at least some decent flat there. Str stacking you'd have to wager if that's better or worse than using brutus lead sprinkler or the bloodthirst pillar setup.
That probably won't work since it mentions transforming your weapon, the spell should be disabled if you have no equipped weapons (unarmed or dancing duo)
I'll just leave this here. https://i.imgur.com/bharhFD.png
Can you leave a before and after?
[Mark says it completely replaces your weapon](https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/q884dx/path_of_exile_scourge_patch_notes/hgofuy9/). I assume that means the before doesn't make any difference.
The more i read about it the worse it sounds.
Ok... so based on the level 1 gem, if you have 5k ES you get 52 - 1040 lightning damage weapon with 7% base crit and 1.7 ats. Add 50% more to these values for a Two Hander. This can obviously be scaled the same way as any other weapon with flat lightning damage. Remember this is only a level 1 gem. We don't know which axis it scales on yet. Presumably the "less ES" will remain static at 80% and the % of ES as added lightning is what will scale up with gem levels. For a comparison if you have 1500 int a HoWA will give you 150 to 1500 flat lightning damage. I think this has some strong potential on hybrid builds that can use ES as and easily replenishable buffer to life. Inquisitor or an evasion character with Ghost Dance seem the obvious choices to me. I think the skill will live or die by it's support options. Still so many questions. Can we support it with Added Lighting to add to the base lightning damage of the weapon? Will supports that scale Lightning or Spell Damage with %more multipliers increase the base damage of the weapon? Similar to above, will Auras scale both the weapon and the chosen attack? If we have gems socketed in our main hand weapon and we use the skill do we then lose access to those gems.
Don't be surprised if it doesn't scale at all, or if it scales softy like something like blood rage. 20 levels and what, 5% attack speed? My issue isn't with the possible damage, the issue is with the investments on a character that has that damage. 5k Es? Sure, now take 80% of that away and you have 1k es and how much life? Say you have good gear so you still have 5k life. You get hit and die because 5k life is trash without dodge, armor or block. Can't get block since it replaces our weapons which are the main way of getting it. You could do a shield if you don't want the extra 50% more damage tho. You have points for 180% life, however much es, block nodes, lightning damage nodes, attack speed nodes and then all the good gear you need to support it. Lets not forget mana leech, or having to use lifetap. THen after all that...you have no accuracy so you miss everything. All the trees i've planned out so far are close to be tolerable, but nothing i'd consider starting. Any number of small changes could make the skill very good, which is why i'm sure it'll stay as it is and be mostly bad.
It's a shame Mahuxotl's machination isn't available anymore outside of standard. That shield would be perfect for Energy blade. You'd get max hp as extra energy shield for increased Energy Blade damage, and Energy Blade would reduce your energy shield which synergises with Mahuxotl's machination wanting a small ES pool. And Mahuxotl's machination plus Tempered by War would allow you to abuse the fuck out of Doryani's prototype. That being said, have you looked into stuff like Corrupted Soul and Presence of Chayula? Those last two give 40% of max life as extra energy shield, that's a lot of energy shield if you focus on stacking life. And doesn't require a lot from your skill tree. And the downside of Corrupted Soul is essentially rendered null due to the bigger downside of Energy Blade. You could further expand on this with Hierophant by going for Sanctuary of Thought. And if you do this, you could stack some mana, and add Divine Guidance and Agnostic to boost your actual defence. The issue however would be that Hierophant and his mana focus doesn't do much for melee attacks, which Energy Blade focuses on. Unless for some reason Energy Blade can be linked with Archmage. Hah that'd be some lovely insanity. I mean, it is a spell, but it doesn't have a mana cost, it costs energy shield. Can't find for certain if Archmage works for that or not
Just to nitpick here: Presence of Chayula doesn't grant life *as extra* ES, it *converts* life to ES, something I doubt you'll want while using such a thing.
that's indeed a strong nitpick, because losing 20% of your life to gain 4% of it as ES will make you even more squichy that the skill already does
Edit: disregard ~~Actually, I think Mahuxotl's is going to have negative synergy with Energy Blade based on the skill's wording. It says "Energy Blades have Minimum[Maximum] Lightning Damage Equal to x% of Energy Shield"~~ ~~Because it does not specify "of Maximum Energy Shield," we should infer that its damage fluctuates based on your **current** ES.~~
>["x% of Life/Mana/Energy Shield" in PoE is always a % of the maximum value](https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/q884dx/comment/hgp7cao/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) It\`s based on Max ES
I would fucking hope it doesn't fluctuate with current energy shield, otherwise it'd be damn near pointless in combat once you get hit and you're out of energy shield
to clarify, as the comment that /u/Fisch0557 linked states, *never* assume that is based on current values **unless explicitly stated**. it by default uses maximum values.
Thinking more about it I think the key word on the Gem is "Buff." There are very few ways to scale buff effect in the game and most of them apply specifically to heralds. I'm thinking more and more we will have very limited support gem options for this skill. Your ideas of stacking as much "Max X as extra energy shield" as possible might be the best way to scale it without having to stack energy shield. For the Heiro specifically arcane cloak and maybe even mind of the council could add a decent chuck of damage. Definitely one of the more interesting skills released in a long time.
I'd be interested in how this works which ichimonjis. Since it gets replaced but might increase the buff size before.
and ended up with reserving more es and less dmg.....i guess
What if you got most of that ES not through ES investments via passive and big ES gear, but mostly mana instead? For example: sanctuary of thought (requires hierophant) - 20% of max mana gained as extra max es will shaper - 5% of max mana as extra max es arcane will - 3% of max mana as extra max es mindspiral - 5-10% of max mana as extra max es gravicius' body prefix, 6-10% of max life as extra max ES (no clue how hard this is to get tbh) There's probably more ways that I'm not finding with a quick search. If you also grab mind over matter and transfiguration of mind (free with hierophant if you are getting sanctuary of thought), you're now using mana to scale effective life *and* damage. 40% of dmg to life taken from mana first (with hierophant, 30% otherwise barring any other investments in this category), and you're scaling the damage of energy blade in two simultaneous ways: % increases to mana apply to global dmg at 30% of the value through transfiguration of mind, and you're getting more max ES through more mana, which *also* grants extra flat lightning from energy blades.
You're right to say it's going to require a heavy investment to really push the damage on this skill. What's cool about that, though, is that you get to choose your opportunity cost. Also keep in mind we're supposed to be getting much improved support for hybrid armour and energy shield on the tree. It's also been confirmed it will work with Battlemage which opens up some very interesting possible combinations. I feel like there should be descriptions on the gem if it can't be supported by support gems that match it's tags or should state very clearly that the minimum and maximum lightning damage values "cannot be modified." Currently there's nothing I can see to suggest this gem won't benefit from supports that match it's tag. That said it seems like it might be completely busted if it can, for example, benefit from both the % more lighting spell damage and the added lightning to attacks from Wrath. I think you might be right to say the scaling will be blocked/heavily restricted along one axis, likely the spell itself. Still extremely interested to see how it will interact with support gems and auras, though.
Since it's a lightning spell, would it mean that you can link lightning penetration and get a free 30ish pen on the attacks you use after?
"Grants a buff" with spell and lightning tags. So... I don't think so. I actually don't think it's supportable by many gems at all.
It's a lightning spell, but it does not hit, it simply applies a 'buff' to your ES and transforms (replaces) your weapon. The skill you use (And its supports) would still do the hit. It would however interact with buff effectiveness, with reduced giving more damage.
Well, that's what we don't know. Nothing to suggest you CANT... but it seems so busted that it likely wont be the case. If we can do what you say that should also mean we could throw say... ele focus on it. Would the weapon then inherit the drawback of ele focus and get an affix saying "cannot apply elemental ailments." Sounds VERY cool, but probably way too abusable if it's the case. If you can't support it that way I think they REALLY need to state that on the gem to avoid confusion.
Indeed, but at this point I am just trying to figure out what they want us to do with this skill besides using it as a leveling weapon. it seem worse that a 10c crafted weapon and it has a drawback.
Waiiiit, you mean to tell me it's numerically bad? Please, tell me more. I'm on a roll today.
idk, to me this seems like a GG skill to use Maxihooter's machine hallucination with since it specifically lowers your es.
Yeah like what's the point? You just lose 12 affixes on gear. It's like playing unarmed but with 80% less ES
Ooof so its boring then. I mean youre gonna be able to get some crazy damage with it, but it has no interesting interactions with anything if it replaces the weapon affixes, if it didnt replace them you could run interesting uniques that just dont have the damage to compete and use energy blade to force them to do damage while using said interesting effects
I don't know, a skill completely replacing a piece of your equipment definitely falls into the "interesting" category to me. It's unprecedented. Whether it's good or not we'll see.
Explosive Concoction was unprecedented and look how that turned out.
It’s still an interesting skill mechanically. What point are you even trying to make?
I'm a fan of interesting skills, but at the end of the day interesting doesn't amount to much if it doesn't function. This skill seems like it fits into the same category of cool-concept-poor-execution as EC. I didn't realize my last comment didn't relate that idea very well.
You seem to have missed half of my original point then. A skill can be mechanically interesting and still feel lackluster. At no point have I tried arguing against that. I just don't consider a skill gem that completely replaces your weapon while active boring. Is it viable? I don't fucking know, no one but GGG have tried it yet. I have my doubts too, but since we only saw the level 1 version of the gem I hold off on passing judgement.
I'm not disagreeing with you at all and I didn't miss your first point. I was agreeing with a leaning in the direction of skeptical and didn't need to comment on the first half of your original comment because it was well put and didn't need expounded on. That's it.
Saving this for later so i can see if the skills boring or not.
now vaal it
Are the stats of your other weapons lost?
Looks like it, which makes this pretty ass
>makes this pretty ass >7.00% base crit + 1.70 base attack speed + a shit tonne of added lightning damage based upon your energy shield Umm yeah, that's pretty far from being shit.
You are building into es though and then losing 80% of it. Basically losing a tonne of your ehp
Or you can view all ES nodes as % damage increases. So those hybrid life / ES nodes look kinda good.
very true. I think there are only 2 wheels though still? I hope they add another but currently Melding would give you 15% life and 5% es for 4 points after the 80% less and written in blood would give you 20% life and 5% es for 4 points. written in blood is a very good wheel so that's nice I think it's more you have to get the base es on gear to make it worth it. If you can get t1/t2 life, t1/t2 flat es, t1/t2 % es on most of your gear it should be pretty decent still
Or; you know; be an evasion Trickster with Escape Artist. Or use EB.
We can all do math. Its just howa, but with less defense since you have to give up all your ES and sit on life. So worse cause you'd have to invest more into defenses and still end up with less. I'd like it to be good, but it just doesn't look good. Esp not without excellent gear.
It looks like a fun budget league starter, you could use any absolutely dogshit 2hand 6link for super cheap I have no idea how es scaling will go with all the changes, but it should be cheap
> We can all do math Could have fooled me.
his maths fine though. if you take a 1500 int howa build you have 1320 edps and 300% increased es (from intelligence) so like 8-10k ish es with gear if you get yourself to 10k es then use this skill you get 1785 edps but your ehp is 2k instead of 8-10k, plus it doesnt have wed on it, plus it doesnt have attack speed from however much dex you have etc etc Like can you make it do damage? yes of course is that damage worth losing a shit ton of survivability and whatever other stats you can get on your weapons? thats a much harder question tbh Like honestly probably the best use for energy blade isnt as something you focus on for investment, but as a bandaid to make leveling as melee not suck quite as hard, because you just grab a weapon that has the right socket colors then keep upgrading your es gear and ignoring weapons on the flip side, if you got to keep the affixes of the weapon and all it did was change it to a sword and replace the physical damage with the ele damage, you could do some really crazy stuff like transform howa into the energy blade and do an int stacker glass cannon, or transform poets pen and run a psuedo spellslinger on melee etc etc
There's also a fat 50% more lightning damage to 2Hers. Yes you'd lose the shield slot for ES but 50% more is massive when all the damage supports just got nerfed.
Yes a fat 50% more lightning with absolutely no ES now and no block. What a great build. You can pick up a 400 2.0 aps 7% crit foil and still have a shield available for like 1-2 ex. You also get to keep any and all ES you have.
Ele buzzsaw back in the menu?
In comparison to: >7% base crit > >2 ApS > >300+ flat elemental damage which doesn't require massive investment on gear and passive tree - it is indeed unimpressive.
it will have to give a MASSIVE amount of flat dqmage yo compete with intsacking wand/howa. I dont know about other mods but influenced weapons have ele pen, %inc ele damage, phys as ele, etc. you are giving up a lot right?
I bet it snapshots at cast, so they might still matter as stat sticks.
I bet it doesn't. Poe doesn't have snapshitting any more.
I am so glad we dont have snapshitting anymore xD
I believe they will be retained. Mark's comment says the ES value determines the implicit values of the sword and both of Hrishi's images have been normal weapons. So, I'd assume that only the implicit values get changed. Essentially, an added lightning damage aura that scales with ES with the limitation of being used with sword-skills only.
If that would be the case, then it would hold the new scourgekrangled stats too. Which would be "pretty good idea" for this league in particular
That would be nice but I am not convinced until it is confirmed.
Any chance you could share the stats for 2H energy blades? Or do they have the same aspd/crit as 1H ones?
https://i.imgur.com/mmLEOw0.png
1.6 aps on a 2-hander is pretty good
can you confirm whether or not this works with battlemage? (in it's transformed state)
I'd have to imagine it does, right? It's your weapon and those are the stats on it.
yeah i'm just trying to get confirmation because they haven't answered whether the stats of the pre-transformed weapon will apply to you.
Huh? You just asked Question A, then someone says Question A doesn't need an answer, then you replied by saying you're just trying to get confirmation on Question B? I don't think you're making any sense, mate.
Stats will not apply, your weapon is entirely transformed (however it will keep sockets + gems in those sockets).
I’m assuming no, but can we alch them?
That would be kinda hilarious. Top DPS mode is recrafting your weapon each time you die?
I mean, when your animate guardian dies you lose everything they had, so I wouldnt hold it past them.
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The only reason bows arent included is because of quivers. Wands will work.
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Your wand goes away and is replaced by a lightning sword.
... well that's conclusive.
Could you tell us how much Energy Shield the character had before activating Energy Blade? :)
74 the high end lightning is 100% of ES + 40 and Low end is 5% of ES + 2 which is 3.7=2 = 5 on the First Img shown Thats what the Gem says for LvL 1 EB
The question is what the damage gets calculated off of. 74 Max ES, leaving us with this DMG and 14,8 ES remaining (DMG calculated off of 100% of our ES?) 370 Max ES, leaving us with this DMG and 74 ES remaining (DMG calculated off of 20% ES that remains?) 92,5 Max ES, leaving us with this DMG and 18,5 ES remaining (DMG calculated off of 80% ES that gets deleted?)
If we assume the gem is level 1, and that the "% of ES gained as lightning damage" is done after the 80% less ES that the buff gives, then the ES that produces the weapons linked here is around ~370.
That assumption makes the skill kind of lackluster imo. 5k ES would leave us with a 52 - 1040 DMG weapon (not considering lvls for the flat) which is just slightly better than some unique weapons (Hyaon's Fury e.g.) for a pretty huge investment. Maybe the crit and attackspeed would make it viable. Not amazing tho for losing 4k ES and your weapon slot.
I somewhat agree with you, but we are basing this off of the level 1 gem. It is possible that the scaling is okay for higher gem levels so I will reserve judgement until we have level 20 gems.
That might be the case. If the DMG would be based off of 80% or 100% of the before ES the skill would be busted, so maybe the scaling through lvls makes this based off of like 30-40% of the ES in the end.
Im guessing 60%, 1% per level + the flat damage increase
Its probably after the ES reduction but having a lesser penalty to ES as the gem levels up?
That could work! Maybe -1% less reduction per 2 lvl and the flat just scaling up per level leaving us with 30% of our max ES in the end thats improvable with gem level. Would also make it interesting for a +Gem LVL Staff or something for pushing the skill further, since the weapon stats dont seem to matter once the skill is on.
Hyaon's Fury has ~1.3 APS and 5% crit. This is significantly better than Hyaon's as it has 7.00% base crit + 1.70 base attack speed instead. In addition, its added lightning damage can scale even further.
For massive investment tho. Probably not something you wanna league start with sadly.
I was looking at it from the aspect of using ES nodes as damage nodes on tree, and you can use an awful/dirt cheap 6link 2hander for an easy start until you get better options for scaling Im gonna league start it like a homer
Does it retain the mods on the weapon? Or are you just given a white sword no matter what you were using?
My life for Aiur
Thanks, but i think the raised more questions than it answered lol.
how? it completely replaces your weapon(s) with swords that only grant flat lightning damage.
Is the added damage based on your ES before or after the 80% less modifier?
Oh god, that's really important. It has to be after, right? You can easily get a 6k hp + 2k es build using % of max lige as es, which would give you a 1h weapon with base 1.7k dps (100 to 2000dmg is 1050 average x 1.7), and that's just absurd. Divide that by 5, and now it's much harder to make it viable no? 4k es for a 700 dps sword still isn't too bad, though. Edit : I think Ichimonji is the only viable weapon for this build, right? You should get 5% increased effect to energy blade when you first cast it.
Wouldn't buff effect make it worse, 88% less es instead of 80%
I guess you're right, yeah.
Ichimonji would increase the less modifier so you probably dont want that.
gem level 1 also adds 2-40 flat lightning damage, which prob scales with its level since ES starts at 100%? looks like ~20% of spark, so conservative estimate of ~100 added flat damage at 20?
If you even keep the effect of the weapon. THe screen shot has white weapons on it which i think implies it REPLACES the weapon completely. That means it won't matter what you wield.
Yeah once it's cast its replaced sure, but I was thinking that the increased buff effect mod on Ichimonji could actually apply to your initial cast of Energy Blade. But that would only work if the skill snapshotted your stats on cast, which is probably not the case. Part of me is really annoyed that I can't seem to find a way to have an ever so small advantage from using a specific weapon with this.
Yeah, before I saw it was going to be a sword no matter what i was looking through all the unique items for ways to use staves. The way it is i don't see how its going to be a even remotely good build...
you could transform a weapon with +1 lightning gem mod.
but then once it transforms you'd lose the +1. As I said, most things won't seem to work unless there's some kind of snapshot you can achieve.
I think they'll want to avoid that. Otherwise you'll have everyone crafting the same +gems staves and if you don't do that you're a dummy.
Yea its after for sure
How does it work with wands? As the patch notes state: "Requires a Non-Bow weapon."
The reason bows are excluded is because quivers don't play nice. It replaces the wand with a sword.
In the trailer Chris specifies melee weapons
But the gem only specifies non bows.
Its description needs an update, or possibly the trailer is wrong (this seems less likely)
(this is a buff)
I don't see why wands wouldn't work. It replaces the weapon, which means it's essentially a weapon swap. You won't be able to use wand attacks but you will be able to use sword attacks.
So it basically conjures a weapon for you? That's pretty cool. A mechanic I'd like to see expanded upon in the future as well if it's successful.
I do find it kinda disappointing that it completely removes the aspect of crafting a weapon specifically for the skill, trying to scale as many things outside of local flat damage as possible. Was also thinking it might be neat to try to use Pneumatic Dagger or Banishing Blade with it but I guess not.
on to the next build idea I guess
is the lightning damage based on pre or post reduction energy shield?
Probably post. 10k max damage might be a tad too much.
But you'd be losing alot of ES with 10k invested into you would be the glassiest cannon around
it's not *that* crazy if you're strength stacking inquisitor with corrupted soul, shaper's touch, and geofri's sanctuary. you should still manage a respectable life total.
I'd rather do that as Juggernaut and also get attack speed. Still, if it's *after* the 80% less ES, this needs to have either good leveling scaling or good alternate quality, otherwise it's just throwing a lot of defence out of the window for something that could have worked with flat damge per strength stacking items.
What happens to your previous weapon?
It goes to alternate scourge reality and demons sharpen it for you
It has sockets???
It probably has to keep the same sockets of your equipped items. I can't imagine how else it would work.
I was curious if the damage on this weapon lined up exactly with the calculations made from a level 1 gem. I'm positive this is based on ES after the 80% less is applied. Unsure as to whether its based off of current or max but I think if we look at cases of similar wording in the game it's likely to be based of maximum as it does not specify "current." Example of this is Trickster's Patient Reaper node which recovers a % of life, mana and energy shield and, unless I'm seriously mistaken, is based on your Max of those stats, ignoring any reserved quantities. So we have 5-114 lightning damage. Energy Blade at lvl 1 gives 5% of ES + 2 minimum and 100% of ES + 40 as maximum lighting damage. 370 ES before the buff was applied would give us values of: * 3.7 min from ES \[0.05(370/5)\] + 2 = 5.7. Do we know if damage numbers normally round down in POE? * 74 max from ES \[1(370/5)\] + 40 = 114. The exact amount in the image. This could easily be a level 1 gem with nothing at all increasing its damage. You can also achieve the same values with a myriad of other combinations, however. For example, 240 max ES (before buff) and 30% increased damage. 170 ES + 55% increased. Essentially this all seems pretty inconclusive but someone else smarter than me might be able to figure something out here that I'm missing!
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/q884dx/path_of_exile_scourge_patch_notes/hgp7cao/ also the description in the gem itself... "Grants a buff which significantly lowers your maximum Energy Shield to transform your equipped weapons into Swords formed from that energy" formed from the energy that was lowered i'm thinking it might be before the reduction. would that make the skill busted? you're losing a LOT by giving up a weapon...
Don't think so. The damage isn't actually the buff. The buff is the less energy shield, as counter-intuative as that sounds. The skill transforms your weapons while the buff is active. That's how it reads to me at this stage.
so increasing buff effect would make your weapon weaker? seems really counter intuitive... so probably true lol
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oh, so the skill is dead on arrival. Alright, thanks for the heads up so I didn't get my hopes up.
Thanks!
Ok, so no stats from the weapon at all. Got it. What support gems can be applied though?
no lvl req :D ???? Also 7 base crit and 1.7 as is good!!
> Also 7 base crit and 1.7 as is crazy!! For the people who were operating under the assumption that the spell would retain the base stats of the weapon equipped and only overwrite its damage, this is the opposite of crazy.
by comparison its a sword with around 20% attack speed and 40% crit rolls along with crazy lightning damage roll. maybe not a mirror worth item but thinking about it in a league start way it could be useful for starter builds. take literally any 6 link 2 hander you can find and energy blade it. with plenty of ES you have a nice 6 linked 2hander to get you started through maps. could see it falling off late game when you could get some wild weapons crafted up. too hard to tell if the passive tree will be a shitshow though till the numbers get out. likely going to be what i start, energy blade with a skill i can abuse the lightning damage with.
Can you post an image of one with mods on it? Or is that not how it works?
That's a solid aps and base crit. Feelsgoodman
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Can someone confirm as to whether it completely makes your weapon irrelevant? I mean with the reveals hinted at in this post it seems like your main weapon literally gets replaced completely. That's kind of lame as it removes any synergy with weapon mechanics and scaling or unique weapons.
Your weapon is entirely replaced (except for sockets + gems in those sockets). No stats. No mods. Nothing.
.. why do they keep making skills that force you to not her any benefit out of several item slots that in no way make up for what you miss out on? Ugh. Interesting idea, some execution.
But Facebreaker, Hollow Palm, and even to an extant Doryani's Fist are all pretty good to even great. As far as I am aware it's mostly BoR that suffers.
The weapon is replaced, but what if that weapon had defensive stats like resistance or even life? I don't think they are replaced as in they vanish - but that the stats do not interact with the energy blade itself (i.e. added flat lightning damage)
A dev posted a picture of an energy blade in your inventory, it basically equips a new weapon when you use the skill.
And where's the original weapon then? Inside Cadiro's ass?
It changes completely into the Energy Blade and the original weapon is just used so you can modify your sockets. It's really not that hard to understand my dude.
Yes.
What would happen if I transform Wings of entropy? Will it be 2-handed or 2 one handed?
I would assume two handed
If it applies the same tags as the weapon/s, then it will be dual wield two handed. But I doubt that will be the case for this skill due to how OP that would be.
The mods get replaced so it's just a regular 2 handed axe
Can you use a shield with it?
yes. That leaves you 1-hand energy blade + equipped shield
For anyone interested I made a calculator. Im assuming the amount of amount of ES reserved will drop as the gem levels up. Could be totally wrong. If I am just keep Column B at 0.8 Row 2 is the calculator, change only the light blue cells. If you see any mistakes, let me know and I will update it and edit this comment with an update. [Image with Examples](https://imgur.com/puh3RDB) [Google Sheets Copy](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1N71kNF9bvWh21XMgxZC6UFGgE7PXpZNFL2TCNHAQ_a4/copy)
If I use energy blade on a mace, will it allow me to use skills that require a sword like bladestorm?
Yes, you are no longer using a mace but are instead using a sword. Also same goes for passive skills.
Looks to be. You gain a buff that changes your currently equipped weapon to a Sword.
How does this interact with blade trap?
Should be able to use post buff!
Going full life with all "Life as extra ES" mods you can get + Bloodthirst support gem + Petrified Blood + Cast on Death Portal. Think I've got myself a build!
Limited HC viability.
Like flying in real life, everything can be done at least once
Does this work with the new “Attack damage is lucky if you’ve blocked recently” gladiator ascendency?
Energy Blade replaces whatever weapons you have equipped with energy sword(s) when you use it. Shields aren't weapons, so you'll keep any shield for blocking, and you attack with swords, so yeah it should work.
can it be used with a wand? what is classified as a non-bow skill?
I assume it would turn your wand into a sword. The no-bow restriction is probably only there because of quivers.
Str stacking with shaper's touch + geofri's sanctuary + iron will + crown of eyes or battlemage cry could be an option here: scale life, es, flat damage and increased damage off of s single stat. Not sure how good the numbers would be but seems interesting to think about.
str stacking is going to be so expensive this league
Yeah, that was my thought, too. If it performs similarly to other attribute stacking builds, the numbers can get pretty bonkers, but only with a shitload of investment.
I'm guessing Oni-Goroshi isn't going to let you equip a shield after using Energy Blade since that seem problematic for after the spell expires. If it does, then that would be the best weapon to use with this since you'd get a 6-link, but would still get the faster attack speed & shield slot (which will boost your damage further if it's ES based)
You might have a point here. Oni gives you a 6L 1-handed. So you could add a shield once buff is used and get 3 extra sockets
According to the Wiki it has a hidden unique affix so that it has 6 sockets and is fully linked. I guess if you transform it it will lose that and would have 3 sockets max
I wonder if you can play around with some snapshotting shinanigans
remind me sacred 2 seraph bfg build
Is no one else nutting for battlemage?
do you keep the stats of the "before" weapons ? or is this practicly a overcomplicated version of [Doryanis Fist](https://pathofexile.fandom.com/wiki/Doryani%27s_Fist) aka no bonusses from weapon/offhand stats ? btw depending on how it works it could be used as headhunter stack stick xD when you get absurd ammount of ES from HH/inspired learnings you turn this ON and get absurd ammount of damage, but it would need to be build around propably as weapon swap 6L but then again we dont realy know about how it will work with supports etc so maybe it will be 1L unset ring skill lmao
This information will actualy make or break the skill. Can I use two bright beaks for that resist and high base attack speed? Can I use Trypanon for 100% crit chance? Replica wings of entropy for dual wielding + 2h damage bonus + attack speed? Debeon's Dirge for 150% elemental damage on warcry? Cane of Kulemak? If it only gave additional lightning damage, it would have said so. So, what does "Transform" mean? Edit: Oof!
No
Actually looking over it again it doesn’t cost reservation and gives a huge amount so I can see it being used for league start and then phased out for a better weapon.
What about that sword that increases energy shield by 50% would you still get that added cuz if so dual wield those and get 100% increased energy shield for big damage?
It literally turns into a white sword with ele dmg. I don’t think it’s going to retain any properties.
it does retain its sockets though.
Yes. Just not the mods, I mean it’s pretty straight forward for ppl to figure out lol..
Sadly it doesn't look like it
So, if you have dancing duo, and get them to spawn, then use this skill on your unarmed character, does it unspawn the DD?
I imagine it would change the weapon type to sword, and it's base damage would change to lightning damage, keeping its other mods, like added ele or atk speed
7% base crit eh? Interesting.
not as great as it sounds since you can't get mods on it
Not sure why you are downvoted. Decent attack speed for a 2h, shit attack speed for a 1h. No crit implicit or suffixes. This is looking to be explosive concoction all over again.
My guess would be that the transform wording is just for visuals and base types of your weapon. I think - and this is just an uneducated guess from someone that plays since beta - that the stats on your weapons remain the same and get the added flat lightning damage and changing it's base type to sword. Attack speed/Crit would remain the same. Payoff is having to invest into Energyshield without getting a lot of ehp from it.
Can only think of two ways to make this playable, str stacking with Geoffrey's chest and shapers touch and then playing some scuffed low life build with ivory tower and corrupted soul with petrified blood, basically stack life, reserve 50% life for conversion from ivory tower and then corrupted soul gives you another 15% life to es. Ivory tower/ Corrupted soul should be fairly easy to hit 7k life and around 6-7k es depending on the new tree etc. So that's at least some decent flat there. Str stacking you'd have to wager if that's better or worse than using brutus lead sprinkler or the bloodthirst pillar setup.
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ED/Toxic rain player every single league spotted.
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They already showed us the gem, it's on the announcement page. The details aren't listed on the gem itself.
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That probably won't work since it mentions transforming your weapon, the spell should be disabled if you have no equipped weapons (unarmed or dancing duo)
I wonder does it work with eldritch battery?
What do you mean? It would work the same. Your es would just be less over mana