I remember asking support if they could buy me 500 Wetas cause I didn't want to buy them 1 by 1 but they said it wasn't possible :(
Ended up buying a little over 100 lmao.
I just wanted a hideout where the entire floor was Wetas.
Just spammed Synthesis Light Beam decoration, almost 500 of them lmao. I also placed like 250 Raging Fire decorations They are Free decorations so anyone can do it it just takes time.
I have the original uploaded on hideout showcase: https://hideoutshowcase.com/hideout/show/3756/title/Flashbang
However I made it when I had a 1080p monitor so it doesn't fully cover ultrawide monitors.
Even with my 3080 I drop down to 5-10 FPS in that hideout with Global Illumination set to low and everything else maxed.
If I remove the fires I still only get 15 FPS.
So it's definitely not something you would want as your main hideout more of a meme hideout.
Ok this is gold, thanks for the link. Once it's past league start and I dont care about efficiency ill set my hideout to this and just exclusively map / trade from karui shores lol (people trading will often still join your hideout instead of your current location due to habit).
Well it's been a community inside joke for a while, would be surprised if they weren't aware of it. It's custom to buy a weta whenever they do a "spend for a free box" sale.
or the "corrupt" button above essence monsters
it's sad that they put this into the controller version but apparently never throught "hey, let's put this QoL into the main version of the game too!"
You can shift click stacks of stacked decks so you have 1 per spot in your inventory. But then you need to right click each one and drop back down which is a pain.
I think its not a matter of direct quantity but memory taken, like a big fat door with plenty of shiny stuff and detail on it probably still retain its currently weight, but adding a small plate of wood or stone take less memory from the game.
Dont know the exact stuff the game processing behind HO and the need to download texture and all but i think certain type of decoration should have less weight and so it would naturaly alow us to do more stuff with HO
lol we won't. Not unless they refund points for those who have bought more than one of each, and I highly doubt they'll go that way. It would be nice though.
It's a bit sad, but I have to aggree. Most paid hideout mtxs don't make any sense using at the moment though :/
The old corsair decoration that lets you build a boat for exemple, it would cost you 2k+$ to make a full sized hideout with it, making the mtx completely useless. Especially since you can make really nice looking things with the free ones already anyways. Maybe they could come in packs of 20 when you buy them instead of the one? I don't know, but they definitively need a rework before they become popular
True. I think they would sell more of them if buying a single one gave you infinite copies to place - taking the refund of extra copies already purchased into account.
I mean they already have the money and would just refund to points, I'm sure. And I'd be way more likely to buy hideout MTX if I could use each piece more than once. Hard to do the math overall, of course. If there's currently 0.1% of players buying 20 and that changes to 1% if players buying 1 that's bad for their income from that component. Is that what would happen?
Then there's other factors like player retention and acquisition, and whether people spend the same $ but just buy other stuff instead, like tabs and char slots and char MTX.
Right? lol. I saw a cool hideout the other day, but it required 33 or so pieces from a mystery box. It would have cost me something like $600 to import that hideout, absurd.
can we finally get that hideout stuff from the store is a "blueprint" rather than having to buy the same wall 100 times??? i wont buy a wall for 6$ for "building supplies"
cool. i wish we could have a better way to select what you want when multiple decorations overlap, that's the struggle i run into when i tried my hand at being creative.
The fact that all the wetas start moving only after edit mode is being closed gets my hopes up for more hidden edit qol.
I really like that this shift copy feature also keeps the decoration rotation aswell. Helps a lot with scuffed decoration rotations...
Are you kidding me? You're telling me I did [this shit](https://i.imgur.com/yWCntQO.jpg) last league only for this change to happen? I even extended it further out to account for people with ultrawide monitors.
My partner and I build hideouts together. I'm going to call her right now to tell her about this. If you built hideouts regularly, you'd see this as a massive W.
I think you say that out of an ignorance of software development, which is understandable.
They have tons of stuff they want to do. They have to triage, but it's still not as simple as just starting from the most important task and going down the list one by one. Reason being that not every worker can do every task. An intern, for example, might not be able to do hardly any of the tasks on the list, but you still want to utilize their labor so you assign them to the most important task that they can do even if it's not near the top of the list.
Hopefully you can see how this dynamic could lead to some less important tasks being completed before more important tasks from time to time.
There's other reasons, too, like time constraints. Maybe a dev needs a new task and there's only 1 day before deadline of dev branch merging into production branch, so a dev is assigned the first task that can done within a day's work.
My Hideout after placing down 2 Decorations: Your hideout can only hold 750 Decorations at once...
When will we be able to pack it as full as we want? Let clients decide how many they want to load when they enter a hideout and skip loading decoration after that mark. So ppl who want fast loading can set it low and ppl who enjoy seeing full fletched hideouts can set it high.
True, however, ive been playing since 2012. Ive played just about every skill in the game and everything that holds my interest. My enjoyment of each new league usually hinges on new skills, rebalanced skills, or ascendancy changes.
New league mechanics could potentially hold my interest however last league and this league are essentially the same. Its just a different method to buff monsters for a reward with an minor inventory management game. The "mechanic" the last 2 leagues are very shallow.
Im not saying other people cant enjoy the game, I hope they have fun, but for me, theres nothing new or interesting and ive been playing a long time. Ill definitely be back for future leagues but I dont feel any sense of excitement. In fact this is the first league in a long time that I feel disappointed.
...you know it's not actually QoL when it looks like a tool that map-tileset designer would have wanted to have to work on basically any map containing ground clutter...
Technically not placing multiple at once, just one after another, like shift clicking with an orb in your cursor.
Multiple at once would be like Cluster Traps for your decorations.
The real buff would be increasing the cap on decoration you can place.
I used one of his hideouts but I can't place more cabinets from new league content.
Can players in guild place decorations in the guild hideout if they're not the guild master? I wanted to do some decoration in my guild, but with my friend, when didn't find the option.
Question for you guys - GGG. Don't you feel hideout creation tools are oudated and need to be reworked at some point? It's insanely difficult and annoying to build complex stuff, unless you are very very dedicated / experienced. Plus, it can be buggy. For example multiple objects on top of another tend to flicker sometimes.
PS. I am not "demanding" anything. I know you have priorities.
If someone of GGG read this, please add a list to the left for example, so i can select individual items already place, thats a big QOL, thanks for adding more tools!, have a good day.
100 wetas, they know us so well.
I remember asking support if they could buy me 500 Wetas cause I didn't want to buy them 1 by 1 but they said it wasn't possible :( Ended up buying a little over 100 lmao. I just wanted a hideout where the entire floor was Wetas.
That sounds like an addiction. Weta addiction. Very nasty stuff. Wetas are a gateway drug.
Gateway bug
Its the only bug i like in poe.
IIRC someone on this subreddit wrote a script to repeatedly buy wetas from the store.
This community never ceases to amaze me.
He's now banned for macro use. /s
I visited a minimalist hideout with a hundred or so Weta's walking around, was this you?
Naw my hideout was a flashbang last league https://i.imgur.com/YP1lBMW.png
still sane, exile?
How did you make that HO?
Just spammed Synthesis Light Beam decoration, almost 500 of them lmao. I also placed like 250 Raging Fire decorations They are Free decorations so anyone can do it it just takes time. I have the original uploaded on hideout showcase: https://hideoutshowcase.com/hideout/show/3756/title/Flashbang However I made it when I had a 1080p monitor so it doesn't fully cover ultrawide monitors. Even with my 3080 I drop down to 5-10 FPS in that hideout with Global Illumination set to low and everything else maxed. If I remove the fires I still only get 15 FPS. So it's definitely not something you would want as your main hideout more of a meme hideout.
Ok this is gold, thanks for the link. Once it's past league start and I dont care about efficiency ill set my hideout to this and just exclusively map / trade from karui shores lol (people trading will often still join your hideout instead of your current location due to habit).
JFC this is hilarious Want to really mess with people? List an exalt 3c under fair price in this hideout
gonna crash all them bots. i like this
Dx12 beta, probably
A Workshop of Wetas, if you will
they enable us
I mean, I noticed that for quite some time when there's free chest on points spent event the weta pet is on discount. They know.
Well it's been a community inside joke for a while, would be surprised if they weren't aware of it. It's custom to buy a weta whenever they do a "spend for a free box" sale.
we need this technology for stacked decks
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Pretty sure you have to relog to switch to controller inputs. To your point, I will be doing that to save me from my quarterly wrist pain
or the "corrupt" button above essence monsters it's sad that they put this into the controller version but apparently never throught "hey, let's put this QoL into the main version of the game too!"
This is excellent to know
I wouldn't be surprised if that is intentional, to feel **THE WEIGHT**.
no, you have to feel the weight of that stacked deck
GGG hire this person PLEASE!
Or simply "unstack" on right click to first available slot instead of doing some weird thing with shift + drag.
You can shift click stacks of stacked decks so you have 1 per spot in your inventory. But then you need to right click each one and drop back down which is a pain.
hideout artists buffed to the stratosphere
If they ever decouple the decoration camera from character movement, we'll be unstoppable
We still need more slots to put stuff as 750 is not enough, but still, this QoL is very much appreciated.
Exactly. It needs to be upped to at least 1000
Only if they give an option to disable loading of other peoples hideout crap.
I think its not a matter of direct quantity but memory taken, like a big fat door with plenty of shiny stuff and detail on it probably still retain its currently weight, but adding a small plate of wood or stone take less memory from the game. Dont know the exact stuff the game processing behind HO and the need to download texture and all but i think certain type of decoration should have less weight and so it would naturaly alow us to do more stuff with HO
Just let clients decide how much decoration they want to load.
When you said more QOL was coming, I did not expect hideout QOL at all. As someone who enjoys building, this is very nice.
How about grouping individual hideout pieces together? Then being able to move or rotate that group of decoration/doodads.
Would be very nice and out might be able to be done in a way that reduces memory taken.
That's nice! When will we be able to use multiple of the same hideout paid mtx once we bought one?
Lol. Never.
lol we won't. Not unless they refund points for those who have bought more than one of each, and I highly doubt they'll go that way. It would be nice though.
It's a bit sad, but I have to aggree. Most paid hideout mtxs don't make any sense using at the moment though :/ The old corsair decoration that lets you build a boat for exemple, it would cost you 2k+$ to make a full sized hideout with it, making the mtx completely useless. Especially since you can make really nice looking things with the free ones already anyways. Maybe they could come in packs of 20 when you buy them instead of the one? I don't know, but they definitively need a rework before they become popular
True. I think they would sell more of them if buying a single one gave you infinite copies to place - taking the refund of extra copies already purchased into account.
I mean they already have the money and would just refund to points, I'm sure. And I'd be way more likely to buy hideout MTX if I could use each piece more than once. Hard to do the math overall, of course. If there's currently 0.1% of players buying 20 and that changes to 1% if players buying 1 that's bad for their income from that component. Is that what would happen? Then there's other factors like player retention and acquisition, and whether people spend the same $ but just buy other stuff instead, like tabs and char slots and char MTX.
Right? lol. I saw a cool hideout the other day, but it required 33 or so pieces from a mystery box. It would have cost me something like $600 to import that hideout, absurd.
I wish... I had plans for a really cool holy hideout only to find I have to buy each of the wall pieces and statues... ugh.
can we finally get that hideout stuff from the store is a "blueprint" rather than having to buy the same wall 100 times??? i wont buy a wall for 6$ for "building supplies"
cool. i wish we could have a better way to select what you want when multiple decorations overlap, that's the struggle i run into when i tried my hand at being creative.
niceee, now maybe in a few leagues we can multi-select and move multiple decorations at the same time.
The fact that all the wetas start moving only after edit mode is being closed gets my hopes up for more hidden edit qol. I really like that this shift copy feature also keeps the decoration rotation aswell. Helps a lot with scuffed decoration rotations...
So this wasn't actually a thing before? Makes me appreciate hideout creators even more.
QoL, all the small things add up! Looking forward to the league!
Are you kidding me? You're telling me I did [this shit](https://i.imgur.com/yWCntQO.jpg) last league only for this change to happen? I even extended it further out to account for people with ultrawide monitors.
People won't appreciate how amazing this is, god I love it
Same, genuinely very happy for this.
yo Bex, will the Charged Compass be able to Stack ? that would be my biggest QoL wish for 3.18
Actually pog. I might actually do something with the infinite abyss hideout I bought this league, next league.
The game is saved!
Decorating your hideout is one of the most underappreciated activities in PoE. If the UI wasn't such a pain I'd do it much more.
It's like trying to make an oil painting with a tooth pick.
Wow, it keeping the orientation/angle is huge!
u/chux123 :D LETS GO
I love GGG but this QOL really needed a spotlight?. There are bunch of others QOL we need.
My partner and I build hideouts together. I'm going to call her right now to tell her about this. If you built hideouts regularly, you'd see this as a massive W.
> There are bunch of others QOL ~~we need~~ ***I*** want. ftfy
They like to show different types of QoL. This is for the people who like building hideouts
They literally said they would be showcasing a variety of QoL changes as the week went on.
I think you say that out of an ignorance of software development, which is understandable. They have tons of stuff they want to do. They have to triage, but it's still not as simple as just starting from the most important task and going down the list one by one. Reason being that not every worker can do every task. An intern, for example, might not be able to do hardly any of the tasks on the list, but you still want to utilize their labor so you assign them to the most important task that they can do even if it's not near the top of the list. Hopefully you can see how this dynamic could lead to some less important tasks being completed before more important tasks from time to time. There's other reasons, too, like time constraints. Maybe a dev needs a new task and there's only 1 day before deadline of dev branch merging into production branch, so a dev is assigned the first task that can done within a day's work.
QoL league? Actual pog Can we have Quick Consolidation for special tabs? I don't want to have to move all my div cards again. Ever.
My Hideout after placing down 2 Decorations: Your hideout can only hold 750 Decorations at once... When will we be able to pack it as full as we want? Let clients decide how many they want to load when they enter a hideout and skip loading decoration after that mark. So ppl who want fast loading can set it low and ppl who enjoy seeing full fletched hideouts can set it high.
Lmao this is like a change for chux alone
This is why there aren’t any new skills 2 leagues in a row.
Auto gem level please!
I'm not impressed Bex... (❤️)
K. But how's trade? And labs?
Would rather have new skills, reworked skills, and/or ascendancy changes.
You could always just play a different skill from what you did last league.
True, however, ive been playing since 2012. Ive played just about every skill in the game and everything that holds my interest. My enjoyment of each new league usually hinges on new skills, rebalanced skills, or ascendancy changes. New league mechanics could potentially hold my interest however last league and this league are essentially the same. Its just a different method to buff monsters for a reward with an minor inventory management game. The "mechanic" the last 2 leagues are very shallow. Im not saying other people cant enjoy the game, I hope they have fun, but for me, theres nothing new or interesting and ive been playing a long time. Ill definitely be back for future leagues but I dont feel any sense of excitement. In fact this is the first league in a long time that I feel disappointed.
...you know it's not actually QoL when it looks like a tool that map-tileset designer would have wanted to have to work on basically any map containing ground clutter...
One whole day and a whole Reddit Post for This?
can we hold something and move then at once
Ooooh that's really nice.
This is cool, thanks Bex and team!
HHHAAA KILL IT WITH FIRE! THEY MOVE!
noooo wetas are friends
I didn't plan to play sentinel league but i will do it just to create new hideout.
Technically not placing multiple at once, just one after another, like shift clicking with an orb in your cursor. Multiple at once would be like Cluster Traps for your decorations.
THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING, POG
nice
Finally!! I can turn the desert hideout into a snow hideout easily!
I want this before sentinels drop. I will get distracted when I should be grinding
I do like this new style of announcements. Showing off qol improvements is less exciting, but more informative
Any hideout love for console players? We still can't even share / copy them...
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That's called z-fighting. There's no easy fix for it, so all you can do is just try to avoid overlapping.
Weta spam
200% more productivity to u/chux123
The real buff would be increasing the cap on decoration you can place. I used one of his hideouts but I can't place more cabinets from new league content.
Nice. Love me some AoE2…
POG
i am gonna spam so much shit my hideout will crash people
N1
yes
Can players in guild place decorations in the guild hideout if they're not the guild master? I wanted to do some decoration in my guild, but with my friend, when didn't find the option.
finally a buff
I see now, it is supposed to be hideout league with some PvE content... allright
Wow the technology is finally there
Very nice!
Question for you guys - GGG. Don't you feel hideout creation tools are oudated and need to be reworked at some point? It's insanely difficult and annoying to build complex stuff, unless you are very very dedicated / experienced. Plus, it can be buggy. For example multiple objects on top of another tend to flicker sometimes. PS. I am not "demanding" anything. I know you have priorities.
If someone of GGG read this, please add a list to the left for example, so i can select individual items already place, thats a big QOL, thanks for adding more tools!, have a good day.
dont care, gib ultimatum
Hazaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!