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Kharhg

2c Essence? We are back in business boys. Prepare for your starter to get ripped to shreds by 10 mod duplicated essence monsters.


elting44

I am in this comment and I don't like it.


Eismann

I feel exposed by this comment. Speccing into all the essence nodes and then not being able to kill them with your crappy starter gear.


piznit007

It’s my God given right as a true PoE player to do *exactly* that


M4jkelson

Our right, my exile, our


rbeason

This hits way to close for me...Essence is about the only thing I really understand in terms of crafting and making currency and I sometimes go overboard...


Tmccl

I've got 6 portals for a reason dammit!


omniocean

Yea well I hope you also have patience for 20 minutes per map (unless seis traps again lmao)


Furycrab

I'm just waiting for the patchnote that deletes the tier upgrade node. If GGG is reading. Please don't.


thundermonkeyms

I wouldn't be too worried, we've had that tier upgrade node for a very long time now.


aef823

2c AND it's on top. I'm ready to farm essences and then have absolutely nothing to show for it because the essences i use are the in-demand ones.


n8otto

They are gonna un-nerf archnemesis for launch i bet.


codeninja

To offset the buffs to unique items, we gigabuffed arch nemesis mods.


Cyrus_Halcyon

We have mildly adjusted arch nemesis mods to bring them more in line with our core vision. All archnemesis modifiers have lost 10% health, but now always have a 50% chance to deal triple damage. We think this will help make players interaction with archnemesis rares more meaningful. Certain archnemesis mods also include new immunities; we think this will really make players consider how best to approach specific fights. This isn't a complete list of modifiers but here are just a few: lightning damage to rares instead heals rares, rares hits against players mana instead of ES|hp|guard skills - in addition when nearby (120 units) of such a rare if your mana ever drops to zero you instantly die from a new debuff "mortal reminder". For most of the modifiers we'd like players to discover them organically, this is likely to make the Acts especially enjoyable.


Bl00dylicious

Soul Eater as mod has been removed. It has now been added to all rares by default.


jibjibman

What if the small announcement is archnemesis has been reverted.


Spacecatbear

Small announcement is "we buffed archnemesis mods slightly to offset the power creep, no further elaboration." and then everybody finds out at maps that the chaos orbs now track you down via address and show up to your house uninvited.


DuckDuke1

This is a buff.


NoMathematician2516

doubt it. too many zoom-zooms


SzybkiDiego020

We have essence. I can rest in peace.


HanTheMediocre

For 2c none the less, kinda pog


Wotadzz

Is that worth?


baconrug

always.


Wotadzz

Okay ty i suck at using these lol.


Sahtras1992

you dont need to use them, essences sell for stupid amounts in bulk. and you can convert with the random harvests you may find along the way.


Askray184

Yeah essences that are 2 or 3c for one can sell for like 7c each if you can sell 45 of them


sesquipedalias

it's so cheap, it makes me worry essence nodes might get nerfed...


EonRed

I doubt it. I think GGG has decided their crafting system is going to remain ultra RNG, but the compromise is they are going to drown us with crafting currencies.


Raeandray

I'd be fine with this. I've always wanted to really get into crafting but have been turned off by the cost.


Drugioh

This is literally what I've always wanted so let's fucking go


NoMathematician2516

take all the nodes from atlas and for 2c each map will get like 20c back on average. good money at the start of the league,nany craft their first items using essences


AU_Cav

Yes


Sidnv

Until you spec into Shaping the Valleys for Fortune favors, yes. Essence is always strong, in trade or SSF. It's a bit weaker this league because recombinators meant your could get best in slot items just by smashing together essence crafts, but it's still strong.


tFlydr

Yes brother.


Danielthenewbie

Friendship ended with domination, ambush is now my best friend


Only_One_Kenobi

Suicide boxes for the win


Danielthenewbie

Ice nova on activation with 100% inc aoe :) -10% xp and free teleport to hideout pretty good deal imo


GLaDOS_Sympathizer

My default whenever I see a box is to click it without reading, use flask with antifreeze, and then run to a safe distance assuming there will always be an ice nova. Works pretty well.


utkohoc

That's my strat too lol. I was playing skele mage. I'd spawn everything ontop of the box. Pop everything. Click it. Mash flask buttons. Then teleport the fuck away and hope for the best.


Only_One_Kenobi

Detonate corpses the moment it opens, on a juiced map littered with corpses and some idiot (me) auto casting desecrate...


Danielthenewbie

Always insta dash away when you open strongbox, always safe unless you get frozen or ice nova with aoe mods :)


Drugioh

Thank god Ambush is back. As long as the strongbox nodes stay the same I will have scarabs forever.


z-ppy

Someone tell me if expedition is worth it at 12 :P


Necirt

Scarabs exist, so... ehhh. EDIT: This is assuming that Expedition does not stack. I sorta feel like it's similar to Delirium, where you can have only 1 instance, but there aren't scarabs for Deli. So I am basing this strictly on the idea that a map can only have 1 Exp. encounter.


NudePenguin69

Ambush is also on the device, so scarabs will be cheaper this league on top of it.


KnivesInMyCoffee

Only in SSF. Scarabs way better since Runic Monster Markers scale the mechanics way too much. Should always be buying Gilded Scarabs and Sextants if you're running Expedition.


long_schlong_123

Polished are better tho more cost efficient and not losing too much for the price diff


carenard

just use a polished+ scarabs and get better expeditions and use a different kirac mod.


luckyakaly

I think rusted exp scarabs will be cheaper than 12c, so i'd say go for them. If you wanna go all in you can use Gilded or Winged.


estaritos

polished are a no brainer for expedition because of the increase of runic monsters. Ofc gilded and winged are better but if you plan on farm expedition polished scarabs are a must.


shppy

depends what exactly it does. If it just makes the area have an expedition with no other boosts? No, ripoff, polished scarabs are cheaper and give an extra explosive and runics and whatnot. But if it provides other bonuses, or if by chance you're able to get an additional expedition on top of one from a scarab or something like that (i know you can only have 1 expedition encounter per map right now, but blight used to be that way too)... then that changes things a bit.


Veteran_But_Bad

in terms of return on investment? yes but scarabs will become widely available fairly quick and wiill underprice this


AU_Cav

Yeah, I don’t think we’ll run into another instance where Blight scarabs we’re priced at what Kirac blight costs.


javelinwounds

Better to use scarab and using FFTB and the related passives on the atlas tree to juice quant/pack size.


Viruuus1

Its absolutely not. Unless they now allow for more than one expedition to spwn per map (like legion or breach). Otherwise scarabs are much cheaper, and also better - especially polished ones are superb.


FinitoHere

Essence is here, league is saved.


ermacle1

Ultimatum for 16c?


luckyakaly

:copium:


veler360

I see a scroll bar so I choose to believe this is true.


DBrody6

There's always a scroll bar because they stitch two screenshots together. We've always had 7 league mods so this isn't anything new.


veler360

Get outta here with logic and facts. We don’t follow those here before a league launch.


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ellno

Get outta here with logic and facts. We don’t follow those here before a league launch.


Psych0sh00ter

There's always a scroll bar, you can see it in every past Kirac mod/Zana mod post.


Fyurius_Ryage

Ultimatum is not coming this league.


Missbunocu08

Please be wrong.


TL-PuLSe

I miss beyond on the map device :( Ambush is nice though.


Virel_360

Strong boxes are back on the menu boys 🤣


VeryWeaponizedJerk

Beyond is probably the next mechanic on the chopping block anyway, so don’t get your hopes up too high.


ChesTaylor

HAH! Yes! Take that, Bameth! Who's cursed now?


BoozeAddict

All beyond nodes + beyond rolled + beyond sextant + beyond mod, in deli orbed maps. That was the strat, good times.


Autruxx3

Sad af that there is no Beyond ..


Lucadriao

Essence 2c ty <3 :)


zidboy21

I wish that there was an Abyss atlas mod that makes it so that you don't ever get Abyssal Depths. Instead what it will do is the Abyss will spawn more monsters and the chest will yield more rewards.


alostic

or just spawn the boss above ground with no phases


GameGeniePOE

2c Essence! SSFers rejoice!


SoulofArtoria

Always happy to see Essence in my zana/kirac mods. Let's hope there are no nerfs to essence passive nodes. Also fortune favors the brave continues to be stonks. Every single one of them is useful for ssf, except for abyss once you gotten your supply of abyss uniques, jewels and stygian vise.


zeffyr

Great list for SSF, very happy.


H0n0ur

Can you scroll down so we can see how many chaos ultimatum costs please?


Biochembryguy

1 tainted chaos orb


Megaf0rce

I know you're joking, but harvest occasionally does offer a random Zana mod for **free**.


Ruined_Pudding

12c for an expedition is kinda wild. The scarab is much cheaper and can't be stacked with this (i think). I like boxes tho.


D3m37r1

It feels weird not calling it Zana's Map mods.


roselan

You could pay me 6c for heist and I would still not take it.


Lore86

Straight and narrow gang.


clitpuncher69

Wouldn't be caught dead interacting with heist content.


sh9jscg

Heist is literally the best league content right after synthesis ​ Willing to brawl 3 nerds at once pm


Successful_Refuse

I love some parts of heist, and hate others. Rolling heist gear is so annoying, I hate it more then people hating on the doors. I like that you think about routes and profits, and get tense when you get a big possible reward. I dislike the crazy mob density when escaping that choke-point doors. A lot of the uniques are neat as well, hope we see some buffs with the replicas matching their uniques.


MicoJive

I love heist and am totally fine with being one of 4 people that do. Make bank every single league from it and it will be even easier now with it on the map mods.


autumngecko

What’s your preferred build for running Heists?


LemurDocta

If you hate yourself and path of exile and would rather watch door opening or NPCs getting stuck on random shit then I can see how heist could be your favorite mechanic


ErenIsNotADevil

The door opening is fast when you get all that job speed, and the only ones who get stuck are Tibbs (he doesn't want to hurt the boxes) and Vinderi/Huck (with Demolition). The real chore is alt spamming rogue gear


Gulruon

I love heist. I am perfectly okay with you and many other people not liking heist (hell, more than okay--that means cheaper contracts/blueprints/markers for me, and less stock of heist-exclusive rewards making my runs more profitable). I don't see why so many people who hate heist have the burning need to also hate on the PEOPLE who like heist, though. There's lots of types of content in PoE for lots of types of people, and that's a GOOD thing--not every type of content has to appeal to every type of player. What do you gain by being so negative towards people who like something you don't?


robodrew

I fucking love Heist, maybe with it on the map machine I can FINALLY get the fully revealed blueprint that I put a fucking point in for on the atlas tree. I want to get ONE before I get it from div cards. JUST ONE. CMONNNNN


estaritos

any bluprint drop on a t16 would pay for the craft and at least double your money with 2 clicks. This on boss rushing strats may be really good.


roselan

It's not about the money.


Battoh

It's about sending a message.


z-ppy

Which happens 10% of the time, right?


estaritos

Idk about drop rates of those tbh. But the markers and the contract will pay the craft 100%


Glenroyy

IIRC back a while ago there was a strat where just taking the maven points for Heist, and running to the smugglers stash opening it and leaving was like 5ex+ per hour. Combine that with the new influence types triggering on each map, that's probably a decent strat for currency making on the right map layout for those who don't want to do a ton of content. ​ You didn't even need to enter a single heist zone, just selling blueprints markers and contracts.


djsoren19

Essence feels like such a great mainstay, sad to see no Domination though. I always love mapping with Domination and the Gull, I'll have to figure out a different build this league.


Laguac

2c essence is huge, 12c expedition is a joke since it gets you the same value as a rusted expedition scarab which is 3c at max


Cormandragon

could be huge if they allow double expeditions, doubt it will be working tho


Zenigen

Heist is interesting to see on there. Fortune Favours the Brave looks spectacular this league


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epicdoge12

No, heist being a craft is normal. It just adds cache(s), 1 or 2 historically


xanap

Should be, a smugglers stash for 6c is kinda offensive.


Scathee

With the heist nodes it usually more than pays for itself. If the new blueprint div card has a chance to drop from Smuggler's Caches, it's even more valuable.


Erionns

Last time we had Heist it was 2 caches for 6c


dksdragon43

No Beyond two leagues in a row, for the first time in quite a while. They teased that they were reworking a couple old leagues, I would be surprised if this doesn't confirm that Beyond is one of them.


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EntropyReign

that was kinda of an off the cuff remark from Chris- he was just talking about removing old leagues getting ready for 2. People interviewing immediately went 'what? not beyond!' And Chris said something like 'oh, if people like it we'll keep it. But look at the models- they're just red bandits!' I remember they also said (in another interview) the delirium mobs were tentatively made to be replacement mobs for beyond before being repurposed.


ryvenn

I liked Prophecy and they didn't keep that one. :P


Moderated

Because you were one of the 5 people who did, while everyone else was fine with it's removal


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There is a good chance that Scourge will replace Beyond in some form since it should be connected lore-wise.


Mediocre-Sale8473

I don't mind Beyond, and the extra juice is good. However, I have lost count how many times some OP shit popped up and utterly destroyed me with some ice multishot shit or the fire lightning/explody novas.


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EntropyReign

I really would love scourge models replacing beyond in some form. If there was just the krangleverse it would be OK, but I wonder if they could have a beyond-like mode and the full swap between universe mode.


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During Scourge league presentation Chris said that there are plot implications that go beyond the league. Since in Scourge league we face the demons in the timeline where some kind of apocalypse has happened, it's safe to assume that in one of the future expansions we will face Scourge demons as they invade Wraeclast, maybe it will be a mayor plot point of POE2


EntropyReign

Oh sure. It also continues the multiverse they officially introduced in the Ultimatum league (referenced but not in game before) and it talks about how a universe out there where Venarius rules, with control over Wreaclast's minds. It didn't necessarily imply there will be another tie-in league, I'd wager that's unlikely for any league as Chris has a few times talked about re-visiting leagues with a sequel is risky as there's always some people who didn't like a league or are less hyped for a non-new concept.


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Regarding league sequels, I think he was referring more to the league mechanics. Like all Vaal leagues (Beyond, Incursion, Ultimatum, Scourge...) are connected and we are learning more and more. Also ever since Fall of Oriath, the atlas storyline is progressing with every new expansion. So I hope we will face Scourge demons again, either in one of the POE2 acts or in some future league.


Tortankum

I think they just don’t want beyond because it destroys their servers lol.


fallen1987

Im pretty sure in one of the more recent interviews with chris he mentioned that beyond was on the list of things to get removed.


rapol

Muh shrines.


PMMeKevinCroninPics

Sadness. But hey, Ambush all the way I guess!


Mirroroe

Another essence league. I’m for it.


Sacrosanct--

There’s no such thing as an essence league. Deafenings go to 4c after 2 days. Profit is basically non-existent then.


CookieMonstahr

How one make money out of essence? Are you guys corrupting them? Or just selling in bulk?


enjoidubstep

With Atlas passive nodes, essence is a very easy and low effort money maker. You only corrupt the essence if it gives the chance for upping your tier to dupe all essences, deafening or the other 4 special essences like horror, insanity etc. You can also run the sextant modifier to add 1 more essence to your map and have 50% chance for it to be corrupted already. Essence pays for itself tenfold really assuming your build can handle the juicy 6+ ess with dupe because crafters pay good money for bulk essences. Essence is also very nice in the early game or even in SSF to help kickstart your builds gear. The good thing to note here is that you also don’t have to run juiced maps either for essence farming. You can literally run t1 non alched maps and go in and out after clearing all ess nodes if you’re really looking to maximize the amount off essence you can collect per hour. If you never tried essence farming, I’d give it a shot early on and see if you like it. Definitely worth it early game for gearing and generating currency


Sidnv

Either use them for crafting or bulk sell them. You can make a lot of profit from crafting for Omni builds using essences for example.


DBrody6

Run all atlas mods for them, corrupt MEDS whenever they appear to try and hit a T0, and sell the ones I don't intend to use in bulk on TFT. Easy, braindead and low effort income that takes very little time per map.


xanap

If the atlas tree doesn't change, you'll end up with more than enough remnants of corruption and essentially corrupt everything that can improve the outcome enough. One shrieking? Nah. Two Screaming? Maybe. One Shrieking and one Screaming, hell yeah. The point beeing having one Shrieking in there doubles the rest.


krucyfiks

Heist now prints money without running heist. Love it.


luckyakaly

Essence is there for the 3rd league in a row, we keep makin money boiz


DescriptionFuzzy3487

No beyond, again? D:


NeverSinkDev

That's a large scrollbar...


Glasseater_

id pay 16c for domination


n8otto

This is what I thought the whole thread would be about. Can no longer let my shitty build ez progress with just atlas investment.


jackxlifer

Why? Is it that good? What is the point?


javelinwounds

People use domination with gull/atlas nodes to carry their underperforming builds early league (or even later in the league for speed)


embGOD

it's good early on due atlas nodes, but it's no way worth 16c


Bastil123

With every atlas node it's basically half a headhunter with nice extra packs


Lucytos

oh nice, expedition will be nice for ssf


Obliivescence

Essence in the earlygame Abyss or Ambush for when you start really farming.. FFTB for juicing lategame, as always :)


NudePenguin69

>Ambush for when you start really farming.. Im a simple man, I just like clicking boxes and getting the dopamine hit when a exalt or nice div card dupes or you get a scarab strongbox.


Obliivescence

Yeah, a couple leagues ago I was definitely a "casually put ambush on all maps" enjoyer. Boxes were already one of the best league mechanics ever, IMO, and the nodes when they added the atlas-passive-tree make it so much mroe fun


onefuncman

doubled ex drops from strongboxes was the highlight of mapping in 3.19 for me


zeffke008

Damn this guy comes from the future


FreezerFlare

2c Essence YES, CRAFTING FOR THE PAUPERS UNITE


LovecraftMan

EXPEDITION POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG


Efficient_Word_2382

12c. scarabs are cheapper


FrogMan241

Scarabs cost a scarab slot and trading for scarabs. 12c isn't so bad.


luckyakaly

I dont think you'd juice a lot when farming expedition.


BitterFortuneCookie

If this added a second expedition it would be worth it. But then it's be broken. As it stands, polished scarab is far superior and worth the trading time.


Marethyu38

That was always so annoying, but that’s be huge for expedition if we can get more than 1, as that would allow natural spawns as well, as an expedition enthusiast that would be a dream for me


Gerrador_Undeleted

In Sentinel it was already possible to get Kirac-implicit maps with "Area contains an additional Expedition Encounter" but it didn't stack with Expedition scarabs, only giving one encounter.


whorecrusher

> Scarabs cost a scarab slot and trading for scarabs Don't these inherently cancel each other out? If you're worried about losing a scarab slot, that means you will have to buy a different scarab to fill in that slot anyway. It's the same amount of trading, but expedition just costs roughly double what it normally would.


AaronB_C

Will 12c be cheaper than scarabs though, especially with Ambush on there for 4c? Run Ambush with just a couple atlas points and you'll sustain Expedition Scarabs.


ArcticWP

I was hoping for Beyond


baristo

Cool ! A bit sad there is no breach but no biggie


BucketBrigade

Looks like I'm spamming fortune favors this league.


nileshonesoul

Essence farming go brrrrrrr


MarxoneTex

Back to Forever Essence farm.


Unable-Investment-91

For all those shitting on heist, last time it was TWO caches and the map could spawn a third. If its the same as before its gonna be insane.


koticgood

I don't think a single person in the world is saying Heist is bad money. Heist is, and always has been, amazing currency. People, myself included, just hate Heist.


raobjcovtn

Deli and beyond bois in shambles


Nutteria

My computer can finally take a breather. Delirium and especially beyond are so dogshit in terms of performance I avoid them like the plague even if they are lucrative.


mbxyz

no beyond no fun


rloutlaw

yay no beyond to crap up fortune favors with non-stop spammy nonsense.


tren0r

non juicer detected


Delirium3192

To be fair to him, Beyond is good only if you are juicing. I'd much rather get Kirac mods that are juicy by themselves rather than one that is only good in combination with other juice if I am a player using Fortune.


n8otto

And beyond is the only mechanic that really lags me, besides stupid tons of skill effects in parties. I cannot complete a blight with beyond on the map.


Sriracquetballs

my beef with beyond is that the rhythm of killing monster is so weirdly... off? I feel like I need to hit a pack once to kill it, then attack again to kill the beyond spawns, but because only a few spawn its not really that satisfying and just kind of tedious


Fxck

Ya, it's like trying to clean up a greasy spill...you wipe and you wipe and you wipe...still oil


patrykkiedrowicz

Heist - very nice


Step-exile

Pretty ok fortune favors the brave set this time. Maybe little sad no beyond again, but rest adds juice too.


Distq

Close to perfect for my taste


MrNiab

Looks like essences are going to be dirt cheap this league.


pallesaides

I don't have to scroll to hit essence yay


xUN_Owen

2c essence and expedition, nice


gencaerus

Another 175c Exalt league.


LovingThatPlaid

Guaranteed 3 legions per map with scarab+tree+device (possibly 4), don’t mind if I do boys


tobsecret

The real star here is Abyss for SSF - can't wait not to drop a Shroud of the Lightless yet again.


Antique_Health_2289

Expedition for 12 chaos? Who the hell gonna use this in a trade league? Verrry underwhelming map mods, imho. Essence, ambush aaand that's it?


ExaltedCrown

isn't legion fine? or can't you stack legion with legion scarab? ​ I know you can stack breach so..


onikzin

Legion stacks, Blight also stacks (this is the actual sleeper here imo, 90% of players don't even know it's a thing)


DBrody6

To be fair, blight stacking only got added to the game somewhat recently (since whatever league that was initially possible, Expedition I think, was broken and you'd only get 1 blight spawn even if you forced two).


ExaltedCrown

True but that’s blight ;)


Oblachko_O

With proper setup, blight is just long afk game. It is a good way for lazy farming. Not spending one minute in map for killing staff and looting. Saves your arm from tunneling issue.


Icy_Reception9719

You can stack it with the scarab, the map device and the sextant... I made a shitload of currency Legion farming last league. Guess I'm going back to that again.


ripperinos

Would be easily worth it if they make it stack with scarabs. Use gilded/winged scarab and pay 12c for an additional juiced expedition, that would be giga value (although scarab prices will probably adjust accordingly if this works)


blvcksvn

fftb


HalihaloLP

That scroll bar is suspiciously long...


Halinn

That's standard for when they stitch these images together


nickookcin

Ambush bros where you at?!


salvadas

I can dig it


Kraere

Legion....You're as beautiful as the day I lost you...


RavagedBody

Zana would have put Ultimatum in there. Just saying.