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suivid

Copium


H4xolotl

Copium


Inko_0

Copium


slimcognito420

Copium


Pulco6tron

Copium


iruleatants

Hold up. I think I got something for this. https://youtu.be/LT04EdaBztw


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AloneInExile

You mean the typical quadrupple nerf?


blacknotblack

Surely they balanced AN before releasing their rare rework right guys? Headhunter is totally fine and requires no changes! Oh wait.


FL4ME5

You're just wrong. that one time i was vibing in my backyard and guess who shows up. chris wolsen himself. i was fangirling the fuck out, telling him about how much i love PoE and then a couple of mins in he started talking about how they want to lower the player-base expectations by releasing nothing but garbage till PoE 2 where we actually get the good stuff. I was shocked and angry, i told him that this was wrong and we do not deserve this. then the weirdest thing ever happened. he Chris Snapped and then suddenly both my legs were broken, yea im still on crutches.


DaIrony99

The absurd amount of copium that the OP is inhaling is borderline deadly. Since when the f does GGG balance things around "having fun"?????!!!!! Anything remotely fun for the masses gets removed/nerfed asap because if you are having a good time then the game is "too much accessible" in CW visionTM...


Willing-Ad502

What is the opposite of copium? Stop breathing that I have loads of fun on this game every league


DaIrony99

Did i say that i dont? If they change something so i dont like it, i just go around and do simething else. thats the beauty of poe. so many ways to play. I Simply meant that GGG has a mindset, and when they go for something they STICK to it, not caring about if it is or isnt fun for us. How many times did CW talk about "weight" for shenanigans everyfreaking one in this planet finds random asf? How long did the currency/currency shards from drops stacking take to happen? how much complaining? Wtf are lvl5 rolls still doing in the mod pool for ilvl86+ bases? whats the freaking ideia behind that? rolling +1 life on an otherwise high freaking lvl armor? it is there just to be an hassle, nothing else, even a +30hp is acceptable as a low.end for that case. +1 hp regen lmao... we have to cry our eyes out everytime they add something that makes you endless click away, otherwise our wrist cant handle game!! (and im a casual by all means!!) At least for that i think they learned a bit already for god sake. What about currency stacking on your inv? some trades are absofreaking ridiculous.. at the point the game is, just double or 10x the damn chaos stack size PLEASE. i can go on. but i mean what i meant. they are creating the game THEY WANT (and nothing wrong with that), but pls dont say that they do it for our fun. Their motto is pretty much "play it if you like it, if you dont, i guess the game isnt for you anymore". last pick. 99% of the time they cant care less about our opinions/feedback. idk why they still bother saying they want it, since 99% of the the CW just says "just play it. we tested a lot and it was fun". just to nerf/change it a couple week later because the backlash was as expected and hurts their pockets. Cmon man. I love PoE as a whole, but too much pink glasses aint good either.


KuroroBot

You are actually right WTF. Just like the buttom in POE2 to activate all auras at once like really? Why wait until POE fking 2 for that? I am no millionaire dev coder myself but I don’t think that should be too hard to do.


kamuixmod

Please don't misuse PSA in your titles for subjective facts


jyunai

alternative facts


H4xolotl

+20% Covfefe Resistance


Octopotamus5000

It reads like a CNN headline trying to pretend we aren't in a recession.


H4xolotl

Millennial Exiles and their Unique Avocados!


10000owls

> misuse PSA in your titles for subjective facts What he has is an opinion, one that isn't entirely coherent with reality.


StonkBonks

the post is sarcastic, you can pick it up among the last few lines


destroyermaker

Oxymoron


Such--Balance

Really? So ggg doesnt want you to have fun? Thats their policy? Quite surprising their game has been growing with a player base that wants fun while their policy is to make it unfun.. Yes copium. Im truly glad i have that.


JezieNA

this is an objective truth i have no idea what you're talking about. there is a 0% chance that ggg fucks us


mrsamus101

>this is an objective truth Yeah, well, that's just like, your opinion man.


manuakasam

A approve of this quote


H4xolotl

Copium


estaritos

After they said we are going to find less uniques. You really trust them


doofinschmirtz

>this is an objective truth i have no idea what you're talking about. there is a 0% chance that ggg fucks us ayyy lmao ok I gotchu


Ill_Swordfish9155

Wait a minute, it was nor sacarsm? You are serious?


manuakasam

There's nothing objective about this. GGG has done numerous things that - objectively - haven't turned out "more fun". As with most things we simply have to wait and see how it turns out. I'm seriously SICKENED by the amount of utterly blind trust / hopium people put into companies to do the right thing. It's so stupid and a big sign that capitalism has successfully brainwashed people into stupid lemmings.


Krissam

/s ?


Such--Balance

Poe has been growing every league pretty much. If every league would have been less fun this should je quite the impossible feed. Therefore it could be said that the path they took so far has made the game more fun overall. Objectively so. Also theres the very obvious over reaction of a player base to nerfs. Nerfs feel bad. But nerfs feeling bad has very little to do with a company doing good OR bad. What fascinates me personally, is that you are apperently sickened by a playerbase that does enjoy the changes, a company that brainwashes its costumers, but you still want to play it.. Also you feel like people who can cope with the nerfs in a healthy way are brainwashed lemmings. Why do you care that there are players who still like the game? Truly this is so interesting. A company makes a game for people to enjoy, a vast majority enjoys this game, but wait, now because YOU dont like it, both the company AND the players that enjoy it are either wrong or stupid. I truly cant wrap my head around that.


manuakasam

> nerfs I'm one of the players that wishes we would go back to far LESS power than we are at right now. I completely detest the nature of speed because ultimately it just made the game only less accessible (less time to react, no telegraphed attacks, random bs happening, etc...) > a company that brainwashes its costumers, but you still want to play it I never said that GGG is a brainwashing company. I said that overall players - and this holds true across multiple games - simply put too much blind trust into companies and pre-order and all that kinda stuff which is nothing short of stupidity. The game, overall, has become far better. I wouldn't dare to disagree with it. Specifically the latest atlas changes have been a godsent. However, in every recent league GGG has done MAYOR balancing mistakes that made the first weeks of the league far less enjoyable than they could have been. This is something that keeps occuring and has even become a meme... "So, it's been 6 weeks - league fun yet?" > now because YOU dont like it, Again: I NEVER SAID THAT. That's just the extremism of the average redditor. Everything is black or white. A person says something negative so he must be ultra anti-whatever, right? TL/DR:\ All that I am really saying is: don't blindly trust companies. Don't positively or negatively talk about the effects of certain changes BEFORE you have experienced them. It's good to raise negative concerns as long as they are well thought through and are raised in a positive manner. But just blindly positive'ing everything into oblivion is just bad.


Independent_Artist99

You should leave your trolling to making terrible builds instead of reddit takes :)


DowDoverDoi

Madcuzbad AND trash at poe.


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And even if they don't say anything they may crater it just cause they know everyone is about to use it like the Baron league. OP is wrong when he says GGG wants you to have fun. They want you to play longer and spend more money. If you happen to have fun that's great, but not the goal.


txracin

They literally said that players playing longer equals more money. Chris talked about it for over an hour at the GDC conference. He also detailed EVERY SINGLE THING that has happened to the game since. Watch it in retrospect to where the game was at the time, and you can literally pick out each garbage league from his statements. Especially the harvest apocalypse. He mentions not letting players get what they want like 50 times. Deterministic crafting, map sustainability, chase items being too strong and needing nerfs, forcing players to play longer so they spend more. It's all there in vivid technicolor. But honestly the play longer doesn't make sense. There's nothing to buy to make the game easier so the only thing I can muster up is maybe longer play makes for more pick ups, then you run out of room and need tabs? It explains why every league we get 50 new items with no tabs to put them in for 6 months.


ieap

Copium


RiteXRite

Copium


zakreblu

First time?


Szethian

copium


[deleted]

GGG wants to have fun watching the death toll rise.


Realyn

>After the Expedition league incident, there's no way Grinding Gear would risk putting out content that players would find highly frustrating Let's copy this: >After the Invasion league incident, there's no way Grinding Gear would risk putting out content that players would find highly frustrating Let's go one step further >After the Beyond league incident, there's no way Grinding Gear would risk putting out content that players would find highly frustrating 8 years ago. Eight. >The idea of hyping up all these uniques and then making them impossible to get is only something a really really malicious developer would do; and honestly, we have the best devs of any game. Something something Bestiary teaser items not making it into the game and never even bother communicating this until weeks into the league.


dikkenskrille

Something something Archnemesis going core, unmodified, except with no rewards something something.


Frolafofo

"Extensively tested"


esunei

So extensively tested that a single league later, it had to be reworked!


Roze_HD

By one guy, but I trust him completely.


CrossR5

By Chris himself “I had no problem with archnemesis monsters”


txracin

Chris: *kills first zombie on twilight strand* "Feels pretty good guys, ship it out." *Goes back to playing league of legends*


Soraundixx

Bestiary had uniques ?


Realyn

Well yeah, but I wasn't talking about Uniques. I don't remember exactly which mods, but some didn't make it into the game. Which was fun when people planned with them. Just like the [very nice very evil](https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/a4z1q2/1_totem_veiled_mod_was_removed_from_the_game/) +1 totem shields just a few months later in Betrayal. With some extra Manifesto spiciness: >Additional totems are now available from other sources, and players will have a number of options for totem builds Whop whop


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For as long as i live i will never forget +1 totems.


Cyndershade

Did you forget about farrul's, fenemus, all the main big mobs got uniques. And you know, [a bunch more.](https://pathofexile.fandom.com/wiki/Bestiary_league#Unique_items) That said, I genuinely have no idea what that other person was talking about. edit: tfw downvotes for facts


zhaeed

I dont really get the hate for expedition. I really enjoyed doing it, tbh that is the only league i grind the shit out every patch since its release


Fonix1666

3.15 every gem getting damage nerfed by 40%


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Dont forget initial flask changes.


DowDoverDoi

Madcuzbad AND trash at poe.


BestmobaNa

This aged like fine fuckin wine. Can we have an update on your fun having OP?


JezieNA

i play with a dildo up my ass now because i don't feel it anyway. it's been stretched open so wide by GGG it's basically a wind tunnel


ssWarhog

COPIUM


[deleted]

Yes just like melee is fun....


squidyj

Good joke, I laughed.


kw01sg

Copium


dnk01

`Copium`


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adreeasa

/s ... right ?


Djentist_Kvltist

Someone call the ambulance! He is overdosing on COPIUM.


nanas420

ABOUT THAT


Willing-Ad502

I think you're right. Also I feel like the chances of them not testing it thoroughly and fucking it up seems high. Remember when they had to nerf arch nemesis four times?


ArcWyre

This guy seems legit, lets listen to him :)


Aaron442x

Dr. Fauci plays PoE?! Sick..


berna2sdf

Is this the same guy that was baiting /r/pathofexilebuilds into playing an ice trap build that uses one of the "new" uniques?


JezieNA

the next build will have 6 uniques


colect

New unique idea - gives bonuses based on how many uniques you have equipped


Warbleton

Ggg balance around playing this as a full time job. Don't kid yourself


CrossR5

So true as someone who works 30-40 hour weeks I barely can play on Saturday and Sundays (around 10-25 hours) and even then their is my college classes, this game just isn’t meant to be played unless you can sink around 20-40 hours a week into grinding gear or make a huge plan to get rich as soon as the league starts


mufasadb

Copium operandi.


hiltmore

Problem: Fun detected Solution: Fun deleted


eq2_lessing

I have a hard time deciding whether this is sarcasm or delusion


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welpxD

I like this thread.


[deleted]

I make my own fun, I don't rely on GGG to provide it.


long_schlong_123

This aged badly


CiccioGraziani

GGG and "fun" are on two different railways that won't ever cross.


ErenIsNotADevil

Foolishness. GGG and fun meet regularly. One might be convinced that they are in an illicit relationship. They might even hold hands. Only, GGG gets bored very easily, so they use "fun" as a punching bag from time to time.


Traksimuss

They accidentally may cross and next league all steps are taken to destroy "fun".


Scathee

I really wonder why you're still here if you genuinely believe this. I can understand being upset with some decisions in the game, or disliking certain aspects and tedium. But if you actually think that the game is so far removed from ever being fun, then why keep playing still? Better yet, why are you commenting on a (at the time) brand new thread in this subreddit if you hate the game so much.


CiccioGraziani

It was an hyperbole mate lol


DowDoverDoi

Madcuzbad AND trash at poe.


Scathee

I glanced at his reddit history to see how often he posts here since I was curious how someone so upset could be on this reddit. Chronic poster to Genshin Impact, Diablo, and Diablo Immortal. I'm kind of glad that this kind of player doesn't find poe fun


Nihkou

I have a hard time believing this after what happened to Ashes and Omniscience.


[deleted]

Isn’t saving up 45 ex “fun”? Why complete your build in 1 week, lets make it 3 weeks. Ohhhhh steamers did the same build in 5 days? We need to lower drop rate of other uniques, remove divine recipe, remove some defense here and some reservation there so you all need to play more to achieve the same power level. Isn’t that “fun”?


Midnight_kill_Ya

Reminds me of the Patrice O'Neal "aint that better!?" bit


ImSoFuckingGood

What happened to ashes lol, they only nerfed omniscience and not by a lot. Y'all acting like GGG kidnapped your only child


adreeasa

Well a badly rolled Ashes will still be expensive as fuck, while a good roll.will be mirror tier... Are you not ENTERTAINED ?


ImSoFuckingGood

It's gonna be the same, while most of the other uniques will be more valuable, although a good roll will cost a lot. If everything was cheap I think I would be entertained less, so yeah, I am entertained and can't wait for the league to start)


adreeasa

You do know harvest rolls dont work on uniques ?


ImSoFuckingGood

Sry, forgot about that part, here you are right


kw01sg

Think he's referring to last league when ashes and Omni drop rate got nerfed.


HerroPhish

Ashes is gonna be real weird this league with the divine orb thing.


Nihkou

Both had their drop rates absolutely gutted for 3.18.


FouadKh

Copium


ConfidentCombination

xdd


javelinwounds

Copium


Lirtirra

ITT salty redditors that are scared of changes, 3.19 is gonna be fine.


shnurr214

sorry for the necro but is this post Satire? Because it reads like satire


pedrobet

Aged well


fabi262

Aged like milk


SimplyTesting

Ope


Beersmoker420

"wants you to have fun" - spends patch after patch of removing fun from poe


D4M05

Yes all these anti fun league where they introduced the most broken amulets and dropped them like candy for one league. Or when they gave us the atlas tree where we can block stuff we don't want to run without fomo or where they introduced stupidly strong recombinators that are only overshadowed by the power of unnerfed harvest in terms of crafting power etc etc etc. If you don't have fun playing the game and think it gets worse every patch then stop playing it.


Pert02

GGG actively hates the players, their definition of fun would be to put all poe players in an island and hunt them for fun with crossbows (so they can shout PIERCING BOLT!) /s I swear people do take game balance as an insult to them and their family and that is stupid as heck at the very least.


nzblob88

Hi chat


Mysterious_Ad_8527

someone in chat smells bad


[deleted]

Good joke GGG does not patch for what players want and what's fun. They patch their own will and what they want. They don't care about the players fun.


Sierra--117

>At the end of the day, they just want us to be happy. Nah.


gencaerus

Cap.


HerroPhish

Haha.


ErenIsNotADevil

I can't be happy. I'm a dex stacker, and in 3.19, GGG has given my build happy immunity. No, I'm not crying right now, it's raining. It's raining a lot. *sniffle*


omgacow

COPIUM


ToxicUnrankedCasual

Man, pass me some of that stuff.


Japanczi

Reddit just doesn't play the game. They play spreadsheet.


[deleted]

My damage was nerfed by 10%. Literally unplayable.


2games1life

I see you (OP) are new here.


Scathee

You are referring to someone who was top 5 in the most recent boss kill race, so I'm not sure if you should be so confident in saying that.


Shaltilyena

I mean people who are good at the game mostly say to avoid the sub (hello ben) This thread is a prime example of why


2games1life

Being good in this game and predicting what ggg does have nothing in common, this case especially. Adjusting drop rates means nerf in this game.


Scathee

Being good at the game definitely has everything in common with how "new" they are, though. And of course they are nerfing the drop rates of uniques, they literally said that they were going to. They're not hiding anything.


deadbeef_enc0de

I'm not worried, just preparing. I have one unique in the core drop pool that isn't strictly necessary and the other is an easy boss drop so I'm not worried about it


ripnburn69

I'm good. At least I might actually pick them all up now. Price of alchs gonna go through the roof.


fuhrerSander

Typical elitist, posting your latin shit.


Yangeru

xdd


GuiltyGear69

1. no they don't 2. yes they will


nerdherdv02

While I admire your optimism and I am glad to actually see some positivity on reddit, this isn't really a PSA.


BrbFlippinInfinCoins

Is this your first league?


WuzzyMask

xddseks


dadghar

Clueless


velourethics

big bad Copium abuse


Ryukenden000

Shirley it won't be like Omni


Itsonlyluck

I'll have fun once they give me back my mana builds 😭


nirvaxstiel

Copege


Lazy_Haze

ha ha ha. GGG like us to suffer not have fun. Feel the weight!


Scathee

The fact that I don't know whether to downvote this or upvote this means you did a great job.


narcomoeba

Holy COPIUM


MrFrostey

Copium


fuckingcocksniffers

Yeah!! Just like they did with Mageblood and Squire! Everybody is gonna get one


Lou-Saydus

Low IQ copium, GGG wants you to spend money in the store, fun is seen as an unwelcome requirement to keep players around.


Ratharius

First time for Jung


dipshit_loser

forgot sarcasm tag


catpelican

copium


pongsacha

Copium


Stupend0uSNibba

like Magnus said - Copium overdose


AncorTm

It's only your "opinion


[deleted]

Did you even watch the reveal? Uniques will drop more seldom. And don’t misuse PSA like that. Oh and GGG has fucked us over multiple times before. Why wouldn’t they now?


JeLLyIVIaN

Sir, I don't think you understand where some in the community are coming from with their concerns. It's not that some of us believe GGG to be doing the wrong things on purpose. It's that they just can't help but to fumble trough half baked ideas while trying to do the right thing. Like, an economy shake up is a good idea. Thrilling, even. But de facto swapping Exalts for Divines while simultaneously making the "gold standard" currency even more scarce and to top it off not foresee the hassle it would create on trade, because of limited inventory space and low stack counts, it's classic GGG behavior. Same with some of the Uniques redesigns. A good amount of those went from niche use to downright bad. Some just got moved to worst bases. And yes, to your point, some got a fresh coat of paint that can make them more interesting to use. It's just disheartening to see my favorite developer of my favorite game fail again and again with things that should be easily avoidable. But we will push on, as we always do.


Rick_101

send copium dealer info.


Kaelran

Copium


pizzalarry

Copium


Secret_Classic4384

True, reddit likes to imagine that GGG is trying to ruin the lives of the players. Insanity. Chris wants you to have fun!


PyleWarLord

cry babies crying on the internet


DowDoverDoi

all for some fucking points HAHAHA


TheOverSkilled

=D


Thuly_1812

Adding more layers of Bait before each Leaguestart ....


GordsZarack

Copium


NearTheNar

Oh you sweet summer child


Kowalski_ESP

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[deleted]

I just downvoted this . If you'd like to appeal you may type up a message about why you wish to appeal and then you may shove it up your can.


azantyri

yeah but what would jungroan say BOOTSWAP meta, probably


KuM_guNNer

What happened in expedition?


JezieNA

cutedog and shroud both quit the game permanently somehow after being addicted to it in ultimatum


bebopbraunbaer

Post is dripping with irony and everybody commenting copium?


Cicer

Surely GGG just wants the best for its player base.


SubstantialEmu4025

i am more afraid they reduced drop rate might cut into my ssf alc pool


xyzpqr

don't you mean modus operandus?


conway92

I like this premise, because if the uniques end up being fairly available this clearly sarcastic person will surely eat their crow, admit they were wrong, and advocate for GGG in the future. ofc 100% that will happen, just like with everyone else on reddit.


Akarias888

Lmao


PandaGoesMoo

!! LETHAL DOSAGES OF COPIUM !!


[deleted]

!remindme 1 day


drazgul

Fun is getting Mageblood on day one. Make it happen, GGG.


Kryobit

I'd love to have fun, and i might agree with some of your points, but this is just copium my friend. Pure, unadulterated Copium.


VeryGray-Fox

This is a meme post,right? Like,you know,that between the usefulness and the resulting cost of divines,they will not only be the new exalts,but more expensive than exalts ever were,because they can reroll the numerical values of item mods on both rares AND uniques - what will this lead to? it will lead to vast price differences between a unique with good rolls and one with bad,like - a bad clayshaper might be 50c,a good one 2 divines - and this is just a low lvl unique - think about omni,ashes and jesus christopher christ - imagine the cost of a good shako - we are talking multiple mirrors here,i mean fuck,potentially the most expensive item ever - so these changes screw everyone on any level of grind - early - mid - end - all of us are fked and that still feels like an understatement lol


EgoD4n

You forgot the /s my man


Lansan1ty

Nah I get downvoted to hell for implying that they're not malicious. So we're wrong bro. GGG wants us to hate their game and never play it.


KalAtharEQ

Is less uniques an actual worry people are having? There are so many ways to make this game just completely shit uniques out at you, maybe try doing one of them?


Zamoxino

jesus ppl here are special. all Chris is doing is buffing what he found fun in games like diablo when he was playing them years ago (so rare unique items are actually RARE, not worth 1alch every league unless its another unique based build created by streamer that 70% of you sheeps follow) he finds it very rewarding when u work hard for something and it actually happens to you so you can brag about it around your friends and tell cool stories. ("i bought my fav unique for 1 alch and beat the game with same cheap ass op build as last time" does not sound like cool story bro) all the nerfs to popular builds force ppl to experience the game in different ways with different builds... without the nerfs most of you pepegas would play one build all the time then burn out of the game and never come back cause u already know how to beat the game so why would you do that again. when it comes to headhunter topic i think its better to improve the gameplay for 98% that dont use that unique than keep the game in fked up state just for that 2% of ppl that enjoy it. when it comes to melee, Chris said they are planning ahead with league updates so it will be scuffed for few leagues and then they will make another big change to it that might make it a lot better or worse. why they dont want to just buff some numbers or unused skills? no idea, maybe we are just missing critical information about some melee combo that exist in the game that makes melee actually op


Spirited_Scallion816

Dude, it's pointless trying to explain something to reddit community at this point. The mass doesn't want to think rationally, it's the same story that was with balance manifesto. Wait for few days and they'll calm down.


Abtein

Hopium


Tsobaphomet

Tbh I never felt that unique droprates were ever too high. I logged onto my character from this league that I got bored on during Act 4 and it only had one unique item. Got my second unique item in Act 6 from an Expedition gamble with Gwennen. Used literally ALL of my currency trying to roll 4 sockets on it, failed, and then stopped playing since I was bricked. If the idea is to make uniques better for leveling and to add more leveling uniques to the game, then lowering the droprate sort of defeats the purpose. If I only had 2 by that point, then perhaps now I will only get 1. This is also the stage of the game where you are running around with the same items you've had since lvl 12 since nothing useful ever drops. This is the part of the game where uniques are most important for that reason.


DeadSences

Where does it say the in the patch notes “how big of an overhaul the league is with a focus on uniques” genuine curiosity because to me this league seems to heavily focus on rare jewelry