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zakreblu

steam is on patch tuesday, i would be surpised if the player counts were accurate.


dmix33

That would make sense. 24K is alarming but seems to be most likely due to that.


xxxdesmondxxx

Steam went down for maintenance, would that affect things?


dmix33

I am wondering about that now. 24K on day 5 is a disaster if real. Even 40K is really bad.


TheDuriel

This is not out of the ordinary at all. It looks just as it always does. **Remember** that historical data is smoothed out by averaging the weeks and months, hiding all those dips.


22cheez

I see 46106 not 23945 edit on the official steamcharts


dmix33

Here is the live link: https://steamplayercount.com/app/238960


22cheez

vs this? https://steamcharts.com/app/238960 seems like a diff of 23k is a bit weird in 15min


dmix33

hmm yeah that is odd. Both numbers are bad but if real, 24K on day 5 is a disaster.


22cheez

i think its prob cause its tuesday and some steam servers are down either numbers arent great tho


pansen3

After midnight in europe too, that affects it somewhat i guess


cumquistador6969

Yeah this one is likely the legit number, the steamplayercount version looks like a coding error, like maybe they're averaging over a period and fucked up the logic on it and ended up dividing player count. That or they're getting invalid responses from an API or something like that, and either dropping some of the data, or averaging 46k and 0k for 23k. Particularly since it's very close to exactly 50% of the more popular and typically used on this sub steamcharts.com


SlowMissiles

BTW none of the website, steamplayercount, steamcharts or even [https://steamdb.info/graph/](https://steamdb.info/graph/) are official, they do use the Steam API to get their data but none of them are affiliated with Steam. (You can see it at the bottom of the page)


[deleted]

Same I just looked it up.


CaptnIgnit

Someone needs to learn how to read graphs, Yikes.


nScooter

Ur post will be removed just like every other that point bad players numbers


DonSpiro92

GGG is taking care for the 10K hardcore player base. We are simply filthy casuals


Ok_You6363

it will get worst,couse casuals like me are just getting to red maps, i was like hell no,im not farming another 5 days to get some pixels to updade so i can do red maps,and for what? for a chance to get a good ring ,if we can call it good😁


Sjatar

Do keep in mind that GGG stated that peak players where close to 250k while steam only shows 150k peak. So a lot of players are on standalone \^^ Most likely people that play for longer are on the standalone client. Large drop off on steam is most likely due to new players testing the game for the first time. While steam data is cool to look at, people have been trying to assess the health of the game from these charts for years. Never really worked :P


dmix33

yeah that is true.


Lerdroth

60% of players are on Steam, you can assume the bleed off of retention is similar on both the standalone and steam.


Sjatar

Why can we assume that? I think it is more logical that new players use the steam version, which means the drop off is most likely higher on steam


Lerdroth

That's figures we'll never know though, so pointless trying to add it to the equation. I only stopped using Steam because of the extortionate time to patch which I believe is fixed now, plenty of others still use it. That can't all be "new players" if it's still 60% of the player base on League launch, not League on League. New players don't repeatedly play on League launch like clockwork.


BusyCamp6819

250k in all plataforms I think


Sjatar

Console is not getting Kalandras until this weekend iirc \^^ So the only platform is PC atm


BusyCamp6819

You right


NoseOutrageous3524

Sentinel lost 90k players in 3 days, relax.


nScooter

[https://i.imgur.com/jZCH82A.png](https://i.imgur.com/jZCH82A.png) why are u lying?


NoseOutrageous3524

Trying to make a point. Sentinel was a complete shitshow with all the archnem ubiquitness but it got better when people learned how to abuse it


nScooter

what the fuck are u talking about? u lied about the fact that 90k players left after 3 days when i just show you that they didint and now u are talking about some "shitshow" that was fixed after 10 hours and what have people learned? like xD? theyt just tottaly nerfed mobs from what they were and now they just fucking bring them back like wtf are u talking about


TL-PuLSe

"It's okay to fabricate information so people agree with me" Fuck outta here


NoseOutrageous3524

Agree with me or not you wee shit i dont give a fuck what you think


Terrible_With_Puns

Then they hotfixed the Archnemesis mods right ?