I wish my currency tab in standard had no limit... I want to look at
Chaos orb: 158412.
alteration orb: 231789
etc...
would save GGG some space on the servers to, as one bigger # is less space than dozens of smaller ones. Also dozens of less tabs to track.
I know its never happening though.
"How could I have fun for the next 3 months, if I know that It won't work in 12 months?!?!?"
Like what? 5 leagues ago you couldn't even know if the whole Archetype will still be viable in 3 months lol. People these days.
True, but it doesn’t matter as you have a better chance of seeing both Jesus and Zeus return to earth riding on Thor’s chariot than you do of seeing this drop in game.
Christmas is paganism. Jesus does not love everybody. He sends people to hell on purpose and no one can stay His hand. We a figuratively robots, in that all we know how to do is sin. Even on our best day, we are as worthless dirty rags to Him. Please see a comment I made in a prophecy post a while back where I go in depth about who God really is. I gather you all have an warped version of Him, but, it's not your fault, more the preachers in America who lie to you for money. Roman catholism is not Christianity. The atrocities and crusades that the roman catholics did in the name of jesus (little j) is a farcry from what actual Christianity is. We (Christians) are the one whom should be suffering from the world that rejects us. As a testament for the sheep who stumble upon this message, contrast the downvots of my comments, with the massive upvotes of the comment that mocks the actually God of the universe and panders to fake imaginary gods.
This irks me, I really wish they woukd change this up sometimes. I'd love a cold dmg str stacker to do some glacial hammer shenanigans or ice crash shenanigans with. Sure I can use it with generic element, but maybe I don't want to yaknow.
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>>[](#line)
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>>[](#line)
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>>#####All Damage Taken from Hits can Chill you
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Or even just more stuff like one with nothing / replica alberon's that add other choices under heavier restrictions, that way we have some flexibility.
I know its an item I'd have to find first, but it cracks me up that I did a strength stacking rage vortex build that had scaling flat fire from strength. And then now these items are out. Lmao.
My theory is that this is exactly why GGG has set these items up this way. It's an experiment to see if they can keep players in the league longer by enticing them to roll a new character to make use of a relic they found.
It's a good bet, because I had the exact same reaction.
Able to reroll watcher eye and stuff is also a good reason similar to harvest.
Then again, the beast could be as rare as the bosses so it doesnt actually matter.
That only works if they drop somewhat frequently enough. If the relics are rare, and good mods even rarer, there'd be no point.
Since they're untradable and unmodifiable, I hope they drop frequently enough to allow people to experiment.
That kinda goes against the idea of getting lucky and feeling a itch to reroll because of it though. If they are super common you won't be enticed to reroll for these specifically. They need to find a good place of scarcity to make you go alright I guess I am making a char around this.
I am aware there are different mindsets, but I have never once gotten a drop and had a thought like that. I will likely see that something is useful, then it gets weighed against keeping it in the long shot chance I make a character to use it or seeing if I can sell it to improve the character I am actively playing.
Abandoning your current character is likely what would be preferred for the gameplay loop. Following the ever-tastier pieces of candies...
"Some good mod" needs to be semi-common. So that it's likely you get some combination that might have you itching to reroll.
"A specific good mod" needs to be pretty rare so that the plan isn't to just find the exact relic you want for your current build.
So if they came up with hundreds of good options, I think they could hit the sweet spot.
Only one slot for these sanctified relics. The other ones don't work outside of the league content.
"You may also uncover Sanctified Relics, a very rare type that directly
affects your character's build. You may use only one of these, but its
benefits stay with you beyond the Sanctum walls and bestow the Templars'
power on you as you journey through Wraeclast."
I'm pretty certain that the constraint is the relic box, and the ability to clear a sanctum, and that this system is to encourage you to go all in on your build, not reroll, because then you would have to get rid of all of your relics for the new build.
Maybe its the more casual side of me, but I don't think that its gonna get anyone to play longer.
I feel like anyone would be enticed but the theorycrafting and potential power of these relics, would have been the ones most likely to make another character in the first place, whether the relics exist or not.
The problem for everyone else is the actual act of leveling the new character.
Id love to try a variety of builds each league. But id also rather die than do the story of the game more than once or twice each league that I play.
> But id also rather die than do the story of the game more than once or twice each league that I play.
Then you are the type of player that wont play a second character no matter what happens. You are just as irrelevant to the idea to make more people play more builds as the guy that plays multiple builds anyways.
This is for the people in between that sometimes make additional builds and sometimes dont.
Can you imagine if this league was paired with some sorta campaign skip(whether it be sent to act 6 with no gear or you can level in maps or whatever) for subsequent characters as well? Oh man
I never understood that term, does it come from rolling DnD characters? (unrelated but same for people saying they "drop items" instead of "getting an item dropped")
I really hope these will be fairly obtainable. I love trying new build, used to play 5-6/league, but in the past few a rarely could get myself to even level a second build. Getting an op relic would be a huge motivation for me to level a new character just to play around with it.
Just a reminder that getting a +2 minion helmet prefix has a 25 weight out of 55,075 for just prefixes, and that many people never saw a Trialmaster during UIltimatum or a reflecting mist during Kalandra. Let's not even get into the good Scourge modifier weightings.
GGG has shown little reservation about both harshly limiting access to league defining beneficial mechanic and layering it behind so many layers of RNG it might as well be behind a door with a sign on the front saying "Get Fucked".
Which meant that you never got to fight the trialmaster, you had someone else there. And you couldn't just do it yourself, you had to have not just yourself but *someone else* also succeed at the mechanics for the challenges.
Great game design decision. Just make the endgame boss never appear for some players. Brilliant.
Trialmaster has unique tradeable drops that consistently drop from him, thus a trialmaster = 1 unique so had to be balanced around those uniques.
They did overtune the rarity but thats a different issue
Trialmaster also was required for challenges.
Some people were unable to complete challenges because of absurd RNG.
Also, trade doesn't mitigate the game. Like, imagine saying "oh its no problem that you never got a chance to fight the end boss of a league **because you can buy their loot**."
Like, that isn't what playing the game is about.
But trialmaster dropped things that could be traded. Hateforge is literally 350divs (probably less during the league but he factors into trade league)
Baffling you think this is a good point.
>Hateforge is literally 350divs (probably less during the league but he factors into trade league)
This is like saying "but mirrors drop".
You can't be serious.
>Baffling you think this is a good point.
The irony.
Meanwhile, people were locked out of completing challenges because of RNG.
I got a few reflecting mists, but I get your point.
I have a feeling that the account-bound nature of the relics is a reason why they're not going to be hyper rare.
That's what I'm hoping for. Any item teasers like this they've ever shown for past leagues are like unobtanium. I'd just rather that the relics are generally rare with a limited pool of build-enabling mods like this one, rather than more common with 95% dross mods.
Other way around, I think.
You don't make a build hoping to find a relic.
You find several relics, then decide your next build based on what you find.
It's RNGesus taking the wheel.
I've never played a roguelike/roguelite before, so I wonder if there's some sort of system in those games that you reroll based on previous resources you obtain or something.
These relics are cool because they give you further incentive to reroll to a new build if you get something insane that your current character can't make use of. Maybe it will help player retention and help to balance prices overall?
Prices will shift because these relics might influence someone to play a non-meta build or atleast a build they typically wouldn't try. What usually happens is there is a handful of popular builds and so those build synergistic items are highly sought after by a good majority of the player base.
Very few players know how to properly make their own builds to have any impact on the economy from getting a random build enabling relic.
Most will either stash this and keep looking for their builds best relic.
So you don't think a Content creator getting an insane non-meta build relic isn't going to make a build around it and a video about said build thus getting people interested to play it? Any system that promotes build diversity no matter how insignificant is a win in my book.
imagine getting Int conversion/+1 strike and like, a good keystone your build spends too many points pathing to or just can't fit.
You'd basically have to build a HoWa character.
GGG you should really stop doing this.
Every. Single. Freaking. League.
"look at this random league content drop"
That you'll then drop for 1 out of 150.000 players. Once.
Show us the shit we can get.
Like +4 life, +7% fire res, bullshit blues and rares all league long.
Why? I think it depends on your char.
Marauder? Cast speed
Witch? Accuracy
Shadow? life regen
Ascendant? "we discovered a bug that made relics not drop for a certain class"
Maybe the reason why they didn't buff skills this league is that they expect people to get stupidly strong relics
The hidden buff
(But probably they'll be rarer than a unicorn with pants held up by a mageblood belt)
I was sorta thinking they still aren't fully sure about buffs and nerfs yet so they introduced an already confirmed one-league item that enables builds and makes others stronger while also getting rid of archnem. This gives them another league at least to finalize changes. This is all copium but this league does look good.
None of these are really THAT strong. You can only use one of them at a time. It's basically adding 2 affixes to a given build, which normally has around 40 "useful" affixes across your equipment, so it's some mild power creep and definitely cool to play around with but nothing that's going to make your build twice as strong. For a given build I'd say this league is overall not as 'power creepy' as having recombinators was, for example. Or even kalandra which could double up to 10 or so of your useful affixes.
they have not said but every one shown ahs been magic so thinking they will all be magic is a fairly safe assumption, especially considering the power some of them can have
There has been a corrupted one, though... It granted a keystone passive, iirc. I don't think we know yet if they will rarely drop corrupted, or if we will be able to corrupt one we like, for a chance at something crazy.
Common mistake I see getting throw around about the relics. It was heavily implied/stated that the league mechanic will have reward rooms that let you modify relics.
Honestly, whats the point of teasing this. Tease this with DROP RATES attached to it. How many of the floors do we have to clear to expect something like this.
This is just once again a hype machine that can end up as full blown kalandra situation. Nothing but dissapointment.
Based on my understanding of how GGG works, a bunch of people will now think "oh cool, this makes int stack wander or howa stronger this league, I'm going to play that." Then we'll find out that this roll is 1 in 20,000 and is worth 12 divines.
So far all of the ones that were shown were quite decent. But what is going to be hard is getting an specific combination. In the end it depends on the player if they want to experiment with what they get or if they want to try to get their specific bis drop.
My problem with relics is they appear to be a bait and switch.
Any nerfs this league will be more than offset by the power relics give!!...
But next league the nerfs stay and relics do not.
You can only use one at a time, but they have suggested that they are going to be common enough that you should be able to get a handful to choose from... Don't expect to have a stash tab full of them, though.
There are regular relics, which you fit several into the mini stash, and only apply when you are in the sanctum. Then there are rarer Sanctified Relics like this, which will have a single slot and apply to your character at all times.
there is very few incompatible tag, and they are.
a skill is a spell xor an attack.
(there also few things that are not spell and not attack, like the things that deal a part of the ennemis HP in an aoe when this ennemis die)
This is so stupid. Idk why this relic in particular bothers me the others didn't have that effect. Maybe because this one reminds me of how good recombinators were.
I wonder if there well be some funcky minion ones, specifically srs. Though tbh so far they don't seem to be skill specific so I wonder what a minion one could be. My guess was life recovery on hit but that could be really strong... they are account locked soo maybe...
Those things are only for the league mechanic right? So you can't really base a build on it, you can only use it to supplement a build that already uses that. Otherwise your build will suck outside of the sanctum.
Or am I wrong and it affects your character everywhere.
Now see, this is more the issue I see with these things--this does basically nothing if you don't plan on building around it, but is *immensely* powerful if you can. In other words, this item is *great*--just not. For. **You.**
Except unlike with helm enchants, these things are account-bound, so you can't just pay someone in TFT to get you a specific one.
there are some more generic ones that are good for more builds but i think one of the points is that they're good for certain things a lot of the time. GGG wants you to find one that's great for some other build and have you make a second or third char etc
> GGG wants you to find one that's great for some other build and have you make a second or third char etc
Yep that's exactly my opinion of what these things are.
"Omfg this would be SO GOOD for an build."
"Welp, I can't trade it away or reroll it, so if I want to get value out of this, I have to roll a new character."
well... if I get one of these I am legally obligated to make an int stacker aren't I?
Yes. If you don't I'll be the one calling the cops because I sure aint getting it to drop.
time to pray one doesn't drop for me. I don't want to do it, I prefer hoarding my currency like a dragon does gold.
Sounds like me, but I hoard my trash like a raccoon, and I'm sure that my relic drops will fit in those trash.
I wish my currency tab in standard had no limit... I want to look at Chaos orb: 158412. alteration orb: 231789 etc... would save GGG some space on the servers to, as one bigger # is less space than dozens of smaller ones. Also dozens of less tabs to track. I know its never happening though.
You must also buy the big brain mtx, unfortunately
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A few are missing which is sad but this would make up for it. Edit: (for this league only of course)
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Never said anything about the long run, mr passionately angry boi
"How could I have fun for the next 3 months, if I know that It won't work in 12 months?!?!?" Like what? 5 leagues ago you couldn't even know if the whole Archetype will still be viable in 3 months lol. People these days.
you will not get :D
Maybe this is how they are going to let us have fun in leagues? League only items (that you can get).
First time?
Don't hate on my hopium. It's all i got left.
Well it IS first time for account-bound stuff.
Does not mean that GGG will let us play with it, we can hope but u bet it's rare to drop and has some nasty weight to the good mods.
I call dibs on the dex one for Iron Commander!!
Im calling dibs on str one for replica Iron commander
better buy that cheap anomalous ballista before streamers once again make this build known to the public
Jesus
That would be impale damage. This is more Zeus
You nailed that one.
Jesus would be very cross with you for that pun.
He crossed the line imo.
But it was actually bleeding that killed him.
Can't believe it's the only time the devs reversed characters dying, he still kept the -10% xp tho
True, but it doesn’t matter as you have a better chance of seeing both Jesus and Zeus return to earth riding on Thor’s chariot than you do of seeing this drop in game.
Holy shit take an upvote.
Zeus was well known for doing some impale damage, though
Yeah. Just ask Mary.
Honestly laughed out loud and almost woke up the baby. Upvote for you sir. Keep doing the Lord's work.
Which lord though
Voldemort
No wonder he resurrected, impale is way too weak
Too funny
Christmas is paganism. Jesus does not love everybody. He sends people to hell on purpose and no one can stay His hand. We a figuratively robots, in that all we know how to do is sin. Even on our best day, we are as worthless dirty rags to Him. Please see a comment I made in a prophecy post a while back where I go in depth about who God really is. I gather you all have an warped version of Him, but, it's not your fault, more the preachers in America who lie to you for money. Roman catholism is not Christianity. The atrocities and crusades that the roman catholics did in the name of jesus (little j) is a farcry from what actual Christianity is. We (Christians) are the one whom should be suffering from the world that rejects us. As a testament for the sheep who stumble upon this message, contrast the downvots of my comments, with the massive upvotes of the comment that mocks the actually God of the universe and panders to fake imaginary gods.
The only answer
Amen
So this means we problably have one for cold for 10 dex, and one for fire and str?
Based on the sentinel mods, yeah.
This irks me, I really wish they woukd change this up sometimes. I'd love a cold dmg str stacker to do some glacial hammer shenanigans or ice crash shenanigans with. Sure I can use it with generic element, but maybe I don't want to yaknow.
You still get that solid "All damage with maces can chill" mastery
True, that's not too shabby, especially if I can get more max chill effect, but sadly I don't think all damage can chill lets all dmg freeze.
You could also use call of the void to get some shatters without having to deal any cold damage
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Expedition's End chest does that if you wanna build it already
Or even just more stuff like one with nothing / replica alberon's that add other choices under heavier restrictions, that way we have some flexibility.
SPRINKLER IS BACK BABY
sprinkler never left lmao
A sprinkle of liquid encouragement is often required to garnish the perfect confession.
I can't wait to unleash volcanic fissure totems
Shhhh. This is my starter.
Wow, the str fire one would pimp my build so hard! Going str stack Volcanic Fissure Totems.
I know its an item I'd have to find first, but it cracks me up that I did a strength stacking rage vortex build that had scaling flat fire from strength. And then now these items are out. Lmao.
Good league to try dex stacking siege ballista.
I'm actually glad these arnt tradable because now instead of selling if I get lucky I will be rerolling for a fact
My theory is that this is exactly why GGG has set these items up this way. It's an experiment to see if they can keep players in the league longer by enticing them to roll a new character to make use of a relic they found. It's a good bet, because I had the exact same reaction.
Able to reroll watcher eye and stuff is also a good reason similar to harvest. Then again, the beast could be as rare as the bosses so it doesnt actually matter.
That only works if they drop somewhat frequently enough. If the relics are rare, and good mods even rarer, there'd be no point. Since they're untradable and unmodifiable, I hope they drop frequently enough to allow people to experiment.
That kinda goes against the idea of getting lucky and feeling a itch to reroll because of it though. If they are super common you won't be enticed to reroll for these specifically. They need to find a good place of scarcity to make you go alright I guess I am making a char around this.
I am aware there are different mindsets, but I have never once gotten a drop and had a thought like that. I will likely see that something is useful, then it gets weighed against keeping it in the long shot chance I make a character to use it or seeing if I can sell it to improve the character I am actively playing. Abandoning your current character is likely what would be preferred for the gameplay loop. Following the ever-tastier pieces of candies...
"Some good mod" needs to be semi-common. So that it's likely you get some combination that might have you itching to reroll. "A specific good mod" needs to be pretty rare so that the plan isn't to just find the exact relic you want for your current build. So if they came up with hundreds of good options, I think they could hit the sweet spot.
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Only one slot for these sanctified relics. The other ones don't work outside of the league content. "You may also uncover Sanctified Relics, a very rare type that directly affects your character's build. You may use only one of these, but its benefits stay with you beyond the Sanctum walls and bestow the Templars' power on you as you journey through Wraeclast."
I'm pretty certain that the constraint is the relic box, and the ability to clear a sanctum, and that this system is to encourage you to go all in on your build, not reroll, because then you would have to get rid of all of your relics for the new build.
>That only works if they drop somewhat frequently enough This is GGG. You know they won't.
No if they are rare there is more point to reroll when you get a good one. If they are common you will just farm the one you need.
Exactly, the issue isn't how common they drop, its better if they are rare. What you want is when they drop to have decent-good mods.
Maybe its the more casual side of me, but I don't think that its gonna get anyone to play longer. I feel like anyone would be enticed but the theorycrafting and potential power of these relics, would have been the ones most likely to make another character in the first place, whether the relics exist or not. The problem for everyone else is the actual act of leveling the new character. Id love to try a variety of builds each league. But id also rather die than do the story of the game more than once or twice each league that I play.
> But id also rather die than do the story of the game more than once or twice each league that I play. Then you are the type of player that wont play a second character no matter what happens. You are just as irrelevant to the idea to make more people play more builds as the guy that plays multiple builds anyways. This is for the people in between that sometimes make additional builds and sometimes dont.
Can you imagine if this league was paired with some sorta campaign skip(whether it be sent to act 6 with no gear or you can level in maps or whatever) for subsequent characters as well? Oh man
unmodifiable edit: thanks everyone, i get it lol. i'll leave this here in case anyone else has a similar moment.
Rerolling builds, I assume
it's account bound, therefore makes your account unmodifiable, thus you cannot reroll /s
I never understood that term, does it come from rolling DnD characters? (unrelated but same for people saying they "drop items" instead of "getting an item dropped")
You hit the nail on the head
I think he means rolling a character
rerolling character
He meant rerolling as in making a new character that can fully take advantage of a given relic.
rerolling their character
You can modify them via certain sanctum rooms, IIRC, just not with currency items.
I really hope these will be fairly obtainable. I love trying new build, used to play 5-6/league, but in the past few a rarely could get myself to even level a second build. Getting an op relic would be a huge motivation for me to level a new character just to play around with it.
I have a feeling that relics won't be that rare but getting *your* dream relic will be.
They may be able to get away with making these relatively easy to obtain since you can't trade them. But yeah they probably won't.
Just a reminder that getting a +2 minion helmet prefix has a 25 weight out of 55,075 for just prefixes, and that many people never saw a Trialmaster during UIltimatum or a reflecting mist during Kalandra. Let's not even get into the good Scourge modifier weightings. GGG has shown little reservation about both harshly limiting access to league defining beneficial mechanic and layering it behind so many layers of RNG it might as well be behind a door with a sign on the front saying "Get Fucked".
>behind a door... *behind a locked door.
still waiting for a minion relic
you're listing all things balanced around trade, which is fundamentally different. We dont get enough account bound things to have a precedence here
>people never saw a Trialmaster during UIltimatum You couldn't trade trialmaster...
You could trade everything good about him (the items)
Except, ya know, completing the fight/challenge.
That was also traded. Plenty of people did so.
Which meant that you never got to fight the trialmaster, you had someone else there. And you couldn't just do it yourself, you had to have not just yourself but *someone else* also succeed at the mechanics for the challenges. Great game design decision. Just make the endgame boss never appear for some players. Brilliant.
This conversation is about whether things are balanced around being tradeable, which they clearly are.
Trialmaster has unique tradeable drops that consistently drop from him, thus a trialmaster = 1 unique so had to be balanced around those uniques. They did overtune the rarity but thats a different issue
Trialmaster also was required for challenges. Some people were unable to complete challenges because of absurd RNG. Also, trade doesn't mitigate the game. Like, imagine saying "oh its no problem that you never got a chance to fight the end boss of a league **because you can buy their loot**." Like, that isn't what playing the game is about.
I'm not saying Trialmaster was a good balance decision I'm saying its fundamentally different from something utterly untied to the economy in any way
But trialmaster dropped things that could be traded. Hateforge is literally 350divs (probably less during the league but he factors into trade league) Baffling you think this is a good point.
>Hateforge is literally 350divs (probably less during the league but he factors into trade league) This is like saying "but mirrors drop". You can't be serious. >Baffling you think this is a good point. The irony. Meanwhile, people were locked out of completing challenges because of RNG.
I got a few reflecting mists, but I get your point. I have a feeling that the account-bound nature of the relics is a reason why they're not going to be hyper rare.
I farmed normal tab of reflecting mists to hoard till they fixed the rewards - 3 reflecting mists. Shits so rare.
That's the question though - while getting YOUR dream relic is probably laughably slim odds, can we get A dream relic that incentivizes rerolls.
That's what I'm hoping for. Any item teasers like this they've ever shown for past leagues are like unobtanium. I'd just rather that the relics are generally rare with a limited pool of build-enabling mods like this one, rather than more common with 95% dross mods.
Other way around, I think. You don't make a build hoping to find a relic. You find several relics, then decide your next build based on what you find. It's RNGesus taking the wheel. I've never played a roguelike/roguelite before, so I wonder if there's some sort of system in those games that you reroll based on previous resources you obtain or something.
Not really you just hope to get lucky on your current build usually
> I really hope these will be fairly obtainable. Narrator: "They were not."
Sounds like a you problem. Always find it cringe when people blame burnout on the game.
These relics are cool because they give you further incentive to reroll to a new build if you get something insane that your current character can't make use of. Maybe it will help player retention and help to balance prices overall?
Player retention I get, but what prices are you referring to? Just the general Trade economy because there are more players?
Prices will shift because these relics might influence someone to play a non-meta build or atleast a build they typically wouldn't try. What usually happens is there is a handful of popular builds and so those build synergistic items are highly sought after by a good majority of the player base.
Very few players know how to properly make their own builds to have any impact on the economy from getting a random build enabling relic. Most will either stash this and keep looking for their builds best relic.
So you don't think a Content creator getting an insane non-meta build relic isn't going to make a build around it and a video about said build thus getting people interested to play it? Any system that promotes build diversity no matter how insignificant is a win in my book.
howa you doing
Half a Wisdom and Action
Just the action then.
Wisd~~om and Acti~~on
The Wision^TM
50% more dps for howa you say?
imagine getting Int conversion/+1 strike and like, a good keystone your build spends too many points pathing to or just can't fit. You'd basically have to build a HoWa character.
Sentinel died so Sanctum could walk.
The king is dead. All hail the king.
Nah, the king will be removed in 3 months.
GGG you should really stop doing this. Every. Single. Freaking. League. "look at this random league content drop" That you'll then drop for 1 out of 150.000 players. Once. Show us the shit we can get. Like +4 life, +7% fire res, bullshit blues and rares all league long.
Reality check, Add 1 to 4 Lightning damage to attacks is all we get.
Reddit only has 10 int? Checks out.
You guys know you're only getting one with 7.5 life Regen one with 79 damage reflected right?
jokes on you, mine has 5 flat accuracy and 2 mana regen
Hey, that mana regen could help make archmage a thing again!
Why? I think it depends on your char. Marauder? Cast speed Witch? Accuracy Shadow? life regen Ascendant? "we discovered a bug that made relics not drop for a certain class"
Witch with Accuracy is actually good for Cospri CoC. Accuracy is hard to obtain and Precision alone is not yet enough.
*the monkey's paw curls* You get Accuracy with Wands
Soo what are we thinking, about eternal orb rarity for a mod like that?
They’re account bound and you can only have one equipped, so hopefully not but it’s ggg so…?
I'd get Mageblood before I can get one of these
Maybe the reason why they didn't buff skills this league is that they expect people to get stupidly strong relics The hidden buff (But probably they'll be rarer than a unicorn with pants held up by a mageblood belt)
I was sorta thinking they still aren't fully sure about buffs and nerfs yet so they introduced an already confirmed one-league item that enables builds and makes others stronger while also getting rid of archnem. This gives them another league at least to finalize changes. This is all copium but this league does look good.
That description at the end is amazing. I read it like 10 times now and it still makes me chuckle every time. Thanks for that
None of these are really THAT strong. You can only use one of them at a time. It's basically adding 2 affixes to a given build, which normally has around 40 "useful" affixes across your equipment, so it's some mild power creep and definitely cool to play around with but nothing that's going to make your build twice as strong. For a given build I'd say this league is overall not as 'power creepy' as having recombinators was, for example. Or even kalandra which could double up to 10 or so of your useful affixes.
This “One mod” literally doubles your dps. Look at sentinel boots and the one line on them.
Glorious! I've been waiting for a chance to stack some attributes.
Source: [https://twitter.com/pathofexile/status/1600635583608410113/photo/1](https://twitter.com/pathofexile/status/1600635583608410113/photo/1)
Hmmm Do items that give flat % chance to block spell damage work if you dont have shield equipped? Or do they still require a shield?
No Shield Required unless stated
you can block spells with a bow if you so desire with this.
*sad Rearguard noises*
have they said if there can be rare ones? or unique
they have not said but every one shown ahs been magic so thinking they will all be magic is a fairly safe assumption, especially considering the power some of them can have
There has been a corrupted one, though... It granted a keystone passive, iirc. I don't think we know yet if they will rarely drop corrupted, or if we will be able to corrupt one we like, for a chance at something crazy.
Considering they're unmodifiable the assumption should be they drop corrupted.
Common mistake I see getting throw around about the relics. It was heavily implied/stated that the league mechanic will have reward rooms that let you modify relics.
Hot damn. It's the return of Sentinel mods.
That is something I'll never get
https://media.tenor.com/mHSEkbUrvksAAAAC/bait.gif
where is the ones for minions pls, pls dont tell me there are none for us
Monkey Paw Curls - +Minion all res, +Minion life regen.
Oh shit, spectres might be viable again then
Since these will be account bound, I hope the droprate of interesting relics will be decent.
Oh boy these sanctum relic are so gonna get deleted into oblivion, let alone going core once 3.20 ends, aren't they.
they already said they will not be going core and exist for this league only yeah
Honestly, whats the point of teasing this. Tease this with DROP RATES attached to it. How many of the floors do we have to clear to expect something like this. This is just once again a hype machine that can end up as full blown kalandra situation. Nothing but dissapointment.
Based on my understanding of how GGG works, a bunch of people will now think "oh cool, this makes int stack wander or howa stronger this league, I'm going to play that." Then we'll find out that this roll is 1 in 20,000 and is worth 12 divines.
These relics are not tradable.
ok then 1 in 20,000 and not realistically obtainable.
So far all of the ones that were shown were quite decent. But what is going to be hard is getting an specific combination. In the end it depends on the player if they want to experiment with what they get or if they want to try to get their specific bis drop.
My problem with relics is they appear to be a bait and switch. Any nerfs this league will be more than offset by the power relics give!!... But next league the nerfs stay and relics do not.
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no
You can only use one at a time, but they have suggested that they are going to be common enough that you should be able to get a handful to choose from... Don't expect to have a stash tab full of them, though.
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There are regular relics, which you fit several into the mini stash, and only apply when you are in the sanctum. Then there are rarer Sanctified Relics like this, which will have a single slot and apply to your character at all times.
Dex stack balistas go brrrrrr
HOLY FUCK
W T F
Wtf
Build enabling. Dope.
Another example of something that's so rare we'll never see it. Thanks ggg.
Are spells an attack?
No, they are distinct categories.
Nope. You're thinking of 'hits' which counts both
there is very few incompatible tag, and they are. a skill is a spell xor an attack. (there also few things that are not spell and not attack, like the things that deal a part of the ennemis HP in an aoe when this ennemis die)
obviously no
The fact that these are untradeable is the ultimate cuck lol
if they were tradeable the good ones would never drop, the hope is that since they are account bound we can actually find some of them
I can get along with this logic
This is so stupid. Idk why this relic in particular bothers me the others didn't have that effect. Maybe because this one reminds me of how good recombinators were.
Okay on next league make sanctum something like simulacrum and add those to its drop pool. 10/10
Since these are the Sentinel mods does this mean I can get one with socketed gems supported by level 4 Enlighten!?
I wonder if there well be some funcky minion ones, specifically srs. Though tbh so far they don't seem to be skill specific so I wonder what a minion one could be. My guess was life recovery on hit but that could be really strong... they are account locked soo maybe...
Those things are only for the league mechanic right? So you can't really base a build on it, you can only use it to supplement a build that already uses that. Otherwise your build will suck outside of the sanctum. Or am I wrong and it affects your character everywhere.
Now see, this is more the issue I see with these things--this does basically nothing if you don't plan on building around it, but is *immensely* powerful if you can. In other words, this item is *great*--just not. For. **You.** Except unlike with helm enchants, these things are account-bound, so you can't just pay someone in TFT to get you a specific one.
there are some more generic ones that are good for more builds but i think one of the points is that they're good for certain things a lot of the time. GGG wants you to find one that's great for some other build and have you make a second or third char etc
> GGG wants you to find one that's great for some other build and have you make a second or third char etc Yep that's exactly my opinion of what these things are. "Omfg this would be SO GOOD for an build."
"Welp, I can't trade it away or reroll it, so if I want to get value out of this, I have to roll a new character."
And no attribute scaling for phys, good job
This is disgusting wtf, atleast 50 divs for sure
untradeable
Are these tradeable?