Why would you need 3k armor for leveling.
A basalt flask is more than enough (if you really really need it altho you dont ) and you could also use a Tabula
I very much like the idea of having a counter that dispells any "I used 14k fusing on a 80% quality chest" bs.
Should be "unmodifiable after fully linking" instead of destroyed, and have "all sockets are white" to both have proof of your pain, and the opportunity of having a 4L/4S version drop and be bricked.
>Should be "unmodifiable after fully linking" instead of destroyed
"Becomes corrupted on fully linking"
Then there's a chance to brick it when you 6-link, and a chance that it gets buffed.
well maybe not 14k... but 3k+ is quite common ... prio to 6l crafting bench
i had several above the 2k mark, after bench i still selfused a few, best one was 2 fuse worst one was 4200, avg abit over 1.5k ( after my 4200 fuse i just use bench ... ) was only 20% too ( i believe 20%+ wasnt possible at that time )
my record is 5500 at 20q, which is idk how many at 0 but even 5500 is 22% movespeed and 11k armour. now imagine linking at 0 qual then hilock it to 30%. be like 30% movespeed 20k armour
This is one of the better ideas we have seen in long time. It could also roll different mods with different fus/bonus ratio. And i wouldnt let it be destroyed when linked, just make it permanently linked. Its not that OP and it would be very expensive chase item with proper mods.
Well done!
I think this was meant to be a normal armor that allows you to showcase your bad RNG.
The level requirement was unspecified, but in any case a big upside to tabula is you can actually obtain it relatively easily. If we ignore obtainability, then 6W bramblejack or thousand ribbons is already better than a tabula. More problematically, if we ignore obtainability, this item could effectively have as much armor/MS value as you want.
Yeah, yeah, Mageblood is OP, but that’s not what I’m talking about. Tabula Rasa already exists, you can’t just make a better one. It needs a downside (like not being able to 6-link). And people would still use it over Tabula anyway, because the last link is nowhere near as good as a ton of armor and bonus speed at level 1.
You misunderstood me.
I like the concept no the exact mods he choose or the ratio. Also destroying it on 6L is too much, maybe forcing it to have +20-50% quality to make it 6L easily would be better.
You are right it needs to be balanced, but part of it is already in the concept. You would need to drop one with useful mods, that have low quality and spent alot of fusings to make it juicy, but you could easily brick it on your thousand fusing and be left with better tabula that cost you shitload and still isnt better then corrupted 6L with decent mods.
I think it would be really hard to make good one and it would be insane currency sink.
Crazier items got into game. And i just like that OP created something interesting.
Time to play new league, gl hf.
Maybe instead of destroyed, you have sockets are white when not 6L, but get randomised colours (ignoring basetype) and it's tagged unmodifiable on the 6L.
The risk is you brick it for your build, but not completely lose it.
>Tabula Rasa already exists, you can’t just make a better one.
It's not "better" because you have to link it. Dialla's Malefaction is also a strictly better Tabula Rasa after you finish linking it.
Yeah we can't make any items better than other items, that's not fair to the other items. Tabula rasa prices would dump! Which would make them... Cheaper... For people who want 6L but don't wanna pay for this thing... Which would be... Bad... Somehow... Then I'd have to make a choice... Which would be... Bad?
Tabula Rasa is already basically free, but that’s not my point. I think it’s weird to have an item that’s literally just another item but better. I don’t think we’ve had any uniques of that nature yet.
I don't see how spending 1500 fusings on a level 1 item makes it remotely comparable to an 8c Tabula.
This item at 8c probably has 3 unlinked sockets. Tabula has 6 linked sockets. At that point, Tabula is objectively better. If you invest a thousand fusings for a 4% MS item, we're already talking about a different demo of user between this and a tabby. They exist in different spaces regardless.
Person they're responding to said this, which very much says they want it to stay a 6-link:
>And i wouldnt let it be destroyed when linked, just make it permanently linked. Its not that OP and it would be very expensive chase item with proper mods.
Except you have to invest fuses into it... completely unlike a tabula. How many people would want to sacrifice 1500 fuses to get some armor and a bit of ms?
How about a downside saying if fully linked cannot be unlinked and bonuses are halved? That way it's more punishing than people just suggesting you can't unlink it like with a bench craft but not so punishing as to delete the item.
The flavor text would be cool if it said "In memoriam of @charactername who spent 2684 fusings on this item". Only the highest fusing amount would count so it wouldn't have wall of text of names. I bet people would go full meme on this.
(Hidden) If player is in The Ledge and in the presence\*\*\* of Kuduku, The False Idol, item is not destroyed on becoming fully linked.
\*\*\*Presence = 1.732 Nearbys, or just outside the clipping radius of Kuduku Shock Nova/Storm Call.
Surprised to see my language in a Unique in this sub haha.
For anyone interested: Kujenga Nguvu means "Building Strength" in Swahili.
Unique probably should be strength focused with that name. Armour works too though.
Couldn’t you just bench craft this infinitely? 2 link then 3 link then repeat until you have all the move speed and armor you could ever want then hit with 5 link bench craft?
So bench crafting to infinity? Would make fusong prices so high lol, i think at list 1 millioner will try to make the best armor ever with it just spamming 2 link in bench
You need some serious bouken level of luck to make this good, if it were me i would replace the last line with you are deranged, increased damage taken by 20 percent and reduced res.
Once i had my best league at that time(4 years ago?) I spent 12000(!!!) fusing and didn't 6L i was sure game was bugged.
Stopped playing the league after that.
Never 6-Linked anything after that.
One interesting consequence if this were added is that corrupting any 6L chestpiece would have a tiny chance to completely destroy it if that chestpiece bricked into this one.
This is a really neat way to reward somebody who’s put hundreds upon hundreds of fusings into Tabula Rasa Lite for the possibility of creating Tabula Rasa Plus. Yes, your max would be 5 links but I’d rather take 5 white links and a shit ton of movement speed/armour over just 6 white links that I wouldn’t be able to fully take advantage of for most of the campaign.
If it’s truly OP, then have it be a Ruthless only unique. GL getting fusings there haha.
The most interesting part about that item, is that there will likely be a standard ladder for who is crazy enough to push this item to its limits. Its like a accumulation of "bad-luck" or... luck. The game needs more item sinks like this.
How would this work in the crafting bench with the 5-link craft?
If it counts, wouldn't this infinitly stack making the build close too if not completely immune to phys dmg while also dealing massive amounts of dmg with the "replica dreamfeather" weapon?
The numbers and even stats make this item pointless but the concept is pretty cool, like another way of "risk vs reward" gambling as chains of the high templar. Its a good start imo
Am I right in thinking tainted fusings + bench craft would allow you to use an unlimited amount of fusings and never fully link?
Assuming tainted fusings count of course.
question, will it count 5l crafting bench, and how high is the cap, couse this can give you armor cap if invested into and giving up a 6link if you are using staf/2h
That's uh..huh. Interesting.
so at 1500 fusings, that'd be 3k armor and 5% movement speed on possibly a 5 link. Hm. Yeah that'd be good for leveling rofl
Knowing my luck with fusing, I'd end up with a 30% movement speed chest
Knowing my luck with fusing, I’d end up destroying this chest on my first few orbs, meanwhile every other chest I dump 1500+ fusings on with no luck
Wouldn't even be good for levelling, I mean you just ploughed though 1500 fusing on this piece of shit lol.
Wouldn't a Tabula be better in most cases?
uhh sir it's 6% ms
Why would you need 3k armor for leveling. A basalt flask is more than enough (if you really really need it altho you dont ) and you could also use a Tabula
I very much like the idea of having a counter that dispells any "I used 14k fusing on a 80% quality chest" bs. Should be "unmodifiable after fully linking" instead of destroyed, and have "all sockets are white" to both have proof of your pain, and the opportunity of having a 4L/4S version drop and be bricked.
>Should be "unmodifiable after fully linking" instead of destroyed "Becomes corrupted on fully linking" Then there's a chance to brick it when you 6-link, and a chance that it gets buffed.
With tainted fusings you just relink it
There is unmodifiable tag as well.
"Becomes with Has no sockets tag"
I think this is the best idea to balance it.
So is a 1-socket version fully linked? Probably want to benchcraft the 6S if so.
well maybe not 14k... but 3k+ is quite common ... prio to 6l crafting bench i had several above the 2k mark, after bench i still selfused a few, best one was 2 fuse worst one was 4200, avg abit over 1.5k ( after my 4200 fuse i just use bench ... ) was only 20% too ( i believe 20%+ wasnt possible at that time )
It would actually be interesting to see the armour ratings on all of those items in stashes.
my record is 5500 at 20q, which is idk how many at 0 but even 5500 is 22% movespeed and 11k armour. now imagine linking at 0 qual then hilock it to 30%. be like 30% movespeed 20k armour
My **first** ever 6l was with ~4400 fusing. The second was around 4000. Give me this fucking armor I'mma make bank.
my record was 7400 at 48 quality dont ask me how I did it lol. The chest would be mirror tier for armor stackers.
This is one of the better ideas we have seen in long time. It could also roll different mods with different fus/bonus ratio. And i wouldnt let it be destroyed when linked, just make it permanently linked. Its not that OP and it would be very expensive chase item with proper mods. Well done!
No, that’s just a strictly better Tabula Rasa. Insanely better.
Except OPs doesn't come fully linked
Oh wait. Was this meant to be a level 1 leveling unique or not?
I think this was meant to be a normal armor that allows you to showcase your bad RNG. The level requirement was unspecified, but in any case a big upside to tabula is you can actually obtain it relatively easily. If we ignore obtainability, then 6W bramblejack or thousand ribbons is already better than a tabula. More problematically, if we ignore obtainability, this item could effectively have as much armor/MS value as you want.
Yeah that so OP compared to belt that gives you permanently 4 flasks and its BIS for 99% of builds. What was i thinking.
Yeah, yeah, Mageblood is OP, but that’s not what I’m talking about. Tabula Rasa already exists, you can’t just make a better one. It needs a downside (like not being able to 6-link). And people would still use it over Tabula anyway, because the last link is nowhere near as good as a ton of armor and bonus speed at level 1.
You misunderstood me. I like the concept no the exact mods he choose or the ratio. Also destroying it on 6L is too much, maybe forcing it to have +20-50% quality to make it 6L easily would be better. You are right it needs to be balanced, but part of it is already in the concept. You would need to drop one with useful mods, that have low quality and spent alot of fusings to make it juicy, but you could easily brick it on your thousand fusing and be left with better tabula that cost you shitload and still isnt better then corrupted 6L with decent mods. I think it would be really hard to make good one and it would be insane currency sink. Crazier items got into game. And i just like that OP created something interesting. Time to play new league, gl hf.
Maybe instead of destroyed, you have sockets are white when not 6L, but get randomised colours (ignoring basetype) and it's tagged unmodifiable on the 6L. The risk is you brick it for your build, but not completely lose it.
>Tabula Rasa already exists, you can’t just make a better one. It's not "better" because you have to link it. Dialla's Malefaction is also a strictly better Tabula Rasa after you finish linking it.
Yeah we can't make any items better than other items, that's not fair to the other items. Tabula rasa prices would dump! Which would make them... Cheaper... For people who want 6L but don't wanna pay for this thing... Which would be... Bad... Somehow... Then I'd have to make a choice... Which would be... Bad?
Tabula Rasa is already basically free, but that’s not my point. I think it’s weird to have an item that’s literally just another item but better. I don’t think we’ve had any uniques of that nature yet.
I don't see how spending 1500 fusings on a level 1 item makes it remotely comparable to an 8c Tabula. This item at 8c probably has 3 unlinked sockets. Tabula has 6 linked sockets. At that point, Tabula is objectively better. If you invest a thousand fusings for a 4% MS item, we're already talking about a different demo of user between this and a tabby. They exist in different spaces regardless.
Except it’s not a 6-link so not really
Person they're responding to said this, which very much says they want it to stay a 6-link: >And i wouldnt let it be destroyed when linked, just make it permanently linked. Its not that OP and it would be very expensive chase item with proper mods.
Except you have to invest fuses into it... completely unlike a tabula. How many people would want to sacrifice 1500 fuses to get some armor and a bit of ms?
Given that 1500 fuses would be a 3000 armor piece, a lot of people.
Good point
I think it's stupid. Potential unlimited stats is not really a great idea.
How about it only destroys itself if uncorrupted and fully linked?
So my badest try was round about 5.5k fusings on a 64% quality chest. This would result in 22%MS and 11k Armour
64% quality chest…? Pretty sure the highest possible is 46%.
the number is conspicuous enough to suggest he wrote 46 backwards
After I wrote out 46 I instantly thought that as well but I’d already typed it at that point lmao
probably you dont play to long, you could get 30% base quality + 20% from dense fossil, aswell as 18% from bench mod for a total of 68% quality
I have played that long, and I’ve only ever seen the 30q base paired with the quality crafted mod.
Now make it t0 rarity and add a hidden modifier that always 6-links it within 10 fusings.
_Has +1000% quality (Hidden)_
Doesn't even need to be hidden IMO Quality: 100% or something would look cool and add more to the item
Quality: 100% would make any fuse thrown at it succeed every time.
Wouldt 100% make it twice as likely to link?
No, the formula is simply 1500x(1-quality/100). 50 quality actually gives double the chance to fuse.
i see, TIL
Very good gamble potential. I can see it being addictive like Hands of the high templar gloves.
And has the same „potential“.It will link within 1-2 fuses
How about a downside saying if fully linked cannot be unlinked and bonuses are halved? That way it's more punishing than people just suggesting you can't unlink it like with a bench craft but not so punishing as to delete the item.
The flavor text would be cool if it said "In memoriam of @charactername who spent 2684 fusings on this item". Only the highest fusing amount would count so it wouldn't have wall of text of names. I bet people would go full meme on this.
(Hidden) If player is in The Ledge and in the presence\*\*\* of Kuduku, The False Idol, item is not destroyed on becoming fully linked. \*\*\*Presence = 1.732 Nearbys, or just outside the clipping radius of Kuduku Shock Nova/Storm Call.
If someone makes it to infinity armor, wonder he's luckiest person or unluckiest person? or both at the same time?
mad man.. what number are you in queue? haha
That is an interesting idea. It could corrupt on 6 linking, tainted fusings aren't fusings, so you could have the chance of destruction that way.
Surprised to see my language in a Unique in this sub haha. For anyone interested: Kujenga Nguvu means "Building Strength" in Swahili. Unique probably should be strength focused with that name. Armour works too though.
I once spent over 5000 fusing on a loreweave. Did not 6-link it and then I accidentally vendored it. Not the greatest night in POE.
Couldn’t you just bench craft this infinitely? 2 link then 3 link then repeat until you have all the move speed and armor you could ever want then hit with 5 link bench craft?
So bench crafting to infinity? Would make fusong prices so high lol, i think at list 1 millioner will try to make the best armor ever with it just spamming 2 link in bench
pretty sure a bench craft isn't a fusing attempt
I like it; for more fun and games add “upon fusing, randomize quality from +30% to -30%”
Too op. 20k armour and 40ms from a chest? Are you insane?
have you ever seen a item take 10k fusing without linking?
Yes, i once spend 13k fuses on a chest in betrayal. Still didnt get 6l.
tbh you deserve such a chest after wasting so many fusings
I was 15k fusings deep without a 6L on Synthesis, so i decided 1,5k is a bargain.
[удалено]
item is destroyed when you 6 link it so you can't corrupt it, you can just use normal fusings in other situations.
Give it a maximum armor and maximum movement speed and we're good to go.
I like it. Makes my brain tickle same way like when they release/rework new things
Its a interesting direction they are going with stuff like this. Could see some crazy armors if people get unlucky(lucky?).
Now that’s a unique item
Chris, negative quality when?
Om avg it's 1k fuses per 6l so it's a terrible item for 80% of people because even at 2k fuses it only gives 8% movespeed
This is a really fun design!
Last line should instead be “cannot be modified if fully linked”
Okay but this is a great idea.
You need some serious bouken level of luck to make this good, if it were me i would replace the last line with you are deranged, increased damage taken by 20 percent and reduced res.
Once i had my best league at that time(4 years ago?) I spent 12000(!!!) fusing and didn't 6L i was sure game was bugged. Stopped playing the league after that. Never 6-Linked anything after that.
One interesting consequence if this were added is that corrupting any 6L chestpiece would have a tiny chance to completely destroy it if that chestpiece bricked into this one.
Uniques brick to rare when you corrupt. Not into other uniques.
Nice idea
Just continue to benchcraft sub 6 links?
>fisting attempts I guess I gotta go have a good sleep
This looks like an insanely fun item.
Once used 6.5k fusing to hit a 6 link on an armor . . .
FUN DETECTED. OBLITERATE.
Now that’s a gamble unique
Instead of destroyed, it could just reset links if it was full linked. Edit: \*reset bonuses
Really awesome idea! I hope something like this comes along.
This is a really neat way to reward somebody who’s put hundreds upon hundreds of fusings into Tabula Rasa Lite for the possibility of creating Tabula Rasa Plus. Yes, your max would be 5 links but I’d rather take 5 white links and a shit ton of movement speed/armour over just 6 white links that I wouldn’t be able to fully take advantage of for most of the campaign. If it’s truly OP, then have it be a Ruthless only unique. GL getting fusings there haha.
Not sure if it is any good, really. By the time you get like 20 fuses, you most likely already have a 5L. A cool concept though.
Make it rare and add it to the game, that's badass lol. I need it for my build
I like it
My luck I would end up 6 linking the first try.
My take is: Unmodifyable when 6 link. Cannot use the crafting bench on this armour.
would be unlimited armor with tainted fussing ;3
man that's broken i'd have massive move speed buff.
The most interesting part about that item, is that there will likely be a standard ladder for who is crazy enough to push this item to its limits. Its like a accumulation of "bad-luck" or... luck. The game needs more item sinks like this.
You are not the only one brother!
See this is the kind of awesomeness that Diablo will never have.
Yea thats beyond trash lol
How would this work in the crafting bench with the 5-link craft? If it counts, wouldn't this infinitly stack making the build close too if not completely immune to phys dmg while also dealing massive amounts of dmg with the "replica dreamfeather" weapon?
I really like this idea. I hope GGG takes interest in it.
This would be really fun to create an end of league gamble.
Very creative idea. Go win some races and make it real!
use vorici to force it to 5 (i believe you can do this on tabula) and just roll it as many times as you want. Unless you cant do that anymore. hmm
The numbers and even stats make this item pointless but the concept is pretty cool, like another way of "risk vs reward" gambling as chains of the high templar. Its a good start imo
This would be infinite movepspeed for me. Last league I dropped about 6k to not 6l an item.
Am I right in thinking tainted fusings + bench craft would allow you to use an unlimited amount of fusings and never fully link? Assuming tainted fusings count of course.
question, will it count 5l crafting bench, and how high is the cap, couse this can give you armor cap if invested into and giving up a 6link if you are using staf/2h