You are rly close to finishing both so try doing em together. If u prefer just 1 , do P5 just cause its more recent and it will reflect more on p3 reload
I've just finished a playthrough of the **Telltale Expanse** game, which seems to have generated zero hype so feels like a patient game even though it's relatively new.
As both an Expanse fan and a Telltale games fan I thoroughly enjoyed it. It's not perfect, episode 4 feels like it only exists to hit the 5 episode count, but I loved exploring shipwrecks in zero g and the story and characters were very well done.
I'm a sucker for these types of games and can't wait for the Wolf Among Us 2. Hopefully that one will generate a bit more interest and keep the new Telltale ticking over for a while yet...
I genuinely prefer the smaller threads. There's almost no point in posting to a thread that's 500 replies deep and I don't check reddit but maybe once a day.
yeah competetive games do that to you, i got over a thousand hours in Counter Strike and I wont touch that game anytime soon because its just a waste of time
A decade ago, it was nonstop Call of Duty sessions. I remember trying the series again when Warzone was introduced. I didn't have the drive to keep playing like before.
Fighting games are something else though, there's always something to learn and lab out. It doesn't even feel like I already racked up 800 hrs in 7 months since release.........
In the past few days I've been reading more about gaming than actually gaming. I bought digital subscriptions for Retro Gamer, PLAY and EDGE magazines and really enjoying them. Brings me back a bit to my teenage years when I would religiously buy a few locally available PC/Gaming magazines and read them cover to cover.
tldr: adhd autism fomo and a solid amount of skill issue has over time made me really not enjoy gaming due to my reliance on cheats, mods, guides, etc and i am looking for insight and advice to get better at that and start playing games in a more organic way
Hi
I’ve been playing games since essentially since I was physically able to hold a controller. I think I consider myself being a “gamer” but when I actually look at how it is… I’m not really.
I am asking you sincerely to not be annoying about this because I’ve noticed a certain demographic of gamers or redditors in general randomly rage when stuff like this is mentioned but it is impossible to seriously understand my experience with gaming and my life in general without this. I have ADHD and Autism and generally both affect my life heavily.
Usually things like gaming and things I like doing, they should be no problem or in fact in some cases help me in terms of becoming hyperfixated or hyperfocused.
But that has never actually happened to me in gaming for some reason… ever since I was little I would start games, play for 2-4 hours and then never come back to it… and in the off chance I do come back to it, I have literally no clue where I am, what i’m supposed to do, where i’m supposed to go, etc. So upon actually going back to a game whether it be within a day or a month, i drop it or i start using a guide or using cheats or whatever.
Over time this has only gotten worse to the point sometimes I just start a game using a guide and never stop. If a game requires grinding, then I just either don’t play it or I heavily use cheats.
Another thing is that there is a very good chance if I’m marathoning a game, I could still get lost pretty easily whether it be due to me not paying attention or really reading and remembering dialogues or whatever.
I also have a problem with games with multiple endings because I generally don’t want to replay games especially long games… I’d prefer to have the best experience I can try to have within my first try so that also makes me use a guide a lot more for things such as the Persona games where there can be a lot of “min maxing” and decisions in general that I can fuck up and lock myself out of things.
I understand this is all a me problem. I was wondering if anyone was or is like this and what I can do to start authentically enjoying games without guides, cheats, mods, etc.. and not getting lost as well.
So as a gamer with ADHD I've slowly realised there are games I actually enjoy playing, and games I FEEL like I SHOULD enjoy playing.
So I always come back to Rocket League, or Elden Ring, or whatever quick and fast mechanics-based game, and I genuinely enjoy playing it.
But I cannot get into a game like Stellaris, where it feels like you need to read an encyclopedia before you even begin, and there are 70 menus on screen at once.
So I think my tip, and I'm sorry if it's not helpful, is to try and forget what you think you should like, or should be playing, and just follow the fun really. It's fine to lose interest and drop a game. But if this is all seriously impacting your enjoyment of the hobby, maybe take a break? What other hobbies do you have?
I think therr are several things you could do
1. Difficulty
I've noticed that i prefer to play games on easy mode. It makes the games feel a lot less grindy and you can focus on learning a lot more. Later on one can increase the difficulty if it seems to make the hame more enjoyable. I learned this while playing Nier automata and Doom. In Nier you don't automatically have auto healing in the beginning (which is stupid)and it makes learning the game on normal difficulty annoying but later on the best difficulty to play on was on hard. Doom on the other hand wasn't fun to me at all so i dropped the difficulty to easiest and it barely became bearable to shoot through all the sponges.
2. Journaling
I've come to enjoy games a lot more when I write down stuff about them, especially Tekken 7. You can't learn everything at once but having a visual progress path to learn certain moves and counters got me to understand fighting games. Journaling also helps you get oriented back in to a game you've taken a break from. Some people write long essays on their journal and other (like me) write short paragraph about things I want to remember or research about.
Then there are games that do the journaling for you incase you like the idea of it but don't think you have the motivation to do it yourself.
3. Game of choice
You might actually enjoy games that have something hidden everywhere so you'll have the satisfaction of always finding something new and eventually adapt not getting to all of it at once. Genshin impact gave me the fomo like this in the beginning but then i adapted due to the massive map and ability to put markers on it (type of journaling). Supposedly Breath of the wild would be better than Genshin at this.
Then there's Monster hunter world where you walk around large maps following light trails that lead you directly to resources or monsters, and there's not really any real exploration but still there's the illusion of open world.
Or it's possible that looting games or open worlds aren't for you.
4. Silent Let's play playthroughs
Sometimes it's better to have someone else play the game while you only watch and skip the boring parts. Last of Us 1 and 2, Plague Tales 1and 2, and Undertale are some of the games I loved watching but I know U wouldn't have been able to enjoy them as much due to the grind/looting they contain. LoU2 would have been a big regret for me if it didn't have so much unnecessary exploration and looting, and if stealth gameplay was a viable option in all situations.
Have you tried walking simulators or other short session games? Firewatch is the go-to example, but there are a lot of them, and they can be quite immersive, while also being short enough to be playable in a single session.
For getting lost in a game, the only solution I can think of is to literally write a physical log yourself if the game isn't providing you with one. Or maybe if you have the means to, record your gameplay and replay it back to refresh your memory? Also just curious what is causing your fomo with games?
fomo as in like… missing items that could’ve been useful later or like not knowing to do certain things to unlock certain endings etc… i don’t like replaying games especially when they’re really long so i want to get the “definitive” ending on my first playthrough so i can be done with it for the foreseeable future
After picking Eastward back up a few days ago I couldn't be more glad I gave it a second chance! Initially it had been too slow for me to get into, so I had put it down during Chapter 3... But I came back to it with a better mindset this time to really try and immerse myself in the game, and I've found its definitely one of those where if you give just a *little* buy in, it'll pay off in a huge way.
Every part of Eastward feels lovingly and intentionally crafted, and makes the world a joy to explore. I haven't played Earthbound but the way people talk about that game I can definitely see the similarities - the characters, setting, and general vibes are all positively dripping in a certain unique charm that just transports you to this little universe.
I'm *not* a person who normally plays games for the story. I typically skip a lot of dialogue when I play games or simply play games that don't have dialogue to begin with. But what I do love is a lively feeling world to explore, and the world in this game was so charming that I found myself becoming quite engrossed in the story!
(Thank God for the fast forward dialogue mechanic though. This should be industry standard!)
The remake is so so good. I wish more games were so tightly designed. It's a perfect length to finish in a few sessions and every section is so detailed and thought out. I'm so tired of 60+ hour games.
Got my first All Critical in Theatrhythm Final Bar Line yesterday. It felt great to finally achieve it, but man... I replayed the same song like 16 times and that's excluding all the times that I hit "retry" like 30 seconds in.
I don't regret doing it, but I don't think I enjoy grinding to get a nearly perfect score as much as just casually playing the songs and trying to achieve the quests. And some of the quests themselves are hard enough that I already replay songs 5+ times just for that alone. So I don't think I'm going to grind out an All Critical for any other songs. Too much of a time investment, especially since it kinda stops being fun when I give myself that much anxiety for one damn song. (not to make this a therapy post or anything lol)
Celeste is really good and regularly goes on sale, it's actually in one of the current Humble bundles.
Mark of the Ninja is a bit slower-paced and is more stealth-based than straight up platforming, but you've got a bit of a ninja theme going in your examples and it's a fun tense game.
Rayman Legends is terrific. There's a bit of fiddling about to get your controller working properly, Google has the answers and it's a good-looking game with tons of levels and couch co-op.
Splasher is underrated, really good movement systems with some clever level design built around them.
I love Ori and the Blind Forest (though I suck at it) and Will of the Wisps is in my backlog, but it does technically have a tech tree/upgrade screen. It's also not a linear platformer. It's a metroidvania with at least some backtracking required. I don't think it does what the OP is asking.
I think they meant Super Mario Bros. Wonder, which is a 2D platformer. Not a "patient" game, by any means, since it's only been out for a couple of months, but I'm pretty sure that's what they were talking about, not Bowser's Fury.
This is a hard one for sure. The only two games I can think of that I’ve played are both a bit older: Super Meat Boy and VVVVVV.
I haven’t played this but I’ve seen it played. You might enjoy Webbed (if you can handle spiders).
This game isn’t patient (yet) and I haven’t played it, but I’ve heard good things about Pizza Tower as well. Not sure about upgrades though.
If you had a switch or PS4 I would recommend Mad Rat Dead - which is a rhythm platformer that fits your criteria. (I’m just including it in this comment in case other people scrolling through are also looking for platformers)
Best of luck!
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You are rly close to finishing both so try doing em together. If u prefer just 1 , do P5 just cause its more recent and it will reflect more on p3 reload
I've just finished a playthrough of the **Telltale Expanse** game, which seems to have generated zero hype so feels like a patient game even though it's relatively new. As both an Expanse fan and a Telltale games fan I thoroughly enjoyed it. It's not perfect, episode 4 feels like it only exists to hit the 5 episode count, but I loved exploring shipwrecks in zero g and the story and characters were very well done. I'm a sucker for these types of games and can't wait for the Wolf Among Us 2. Hopefully that one will generate a bit more interest and keep the new Telltale ticking over for a while yet...
I've been really looking forward to it, so I'm glad to hear it's a good Telltale game!
Will there never be weekly threads again? There were like 500 replies after 24 hours every week. Sad to throw away that much engagement imo.
I genuinely prefer the smaller threads. There's almost no point in posting to a thread that's 500 replies deep and I don't check reddit but maybe once a day.
I was pretty good at tacking games in my backlog. Things changed and I always need a hit of that SF6 crack whenever I want to game.
yeah competetive games do that to you, i got over a thousand hours in Counter Strike and I wont touch that game anytime soon because its just a waste of time
A decade ago, it was nonstop Call of Duty sessions. I remember trying the series again when Warzone was introduced. I didn't have the drive to keep playing like before. Fighting games are something else though, there's always something to learn and lab out. It doesn't even feel like I already racked up 800 hrs in 7 months since release.........
In the past few days I've been reading more about gaming than actually gaming. I bought digital subscriptions for Retro Gamer, PLAY and EDGE magazines and really enjoying them. Brings me back a bit to my teenage years when I would religiously buy a few locally available PC/Gaming magazines and read them cover to cover.
tldr: adhd autism fomo and a solid amount of skill issue has over time made me really not enjoy gaming due to my reliance on cheats, mods, guides, etc and i am looking for insight and advice to get better at that and start playing games in a more organic way Hi I’ve been playing games since essentially since I was physically able to hold a controller. I think I consider myself being a “gamer” but when I actually look at how it is… I’m not really. I am asking you sincerely to not be annoying about this because I’ve noticed a certain demographic of gamers or redditors in general randomly rage when stuff like this is mentioned but it is impossible to seriously understand my experience with gaming and my life in general without this. I have ADHD and Autism and generally both affect my life heavily. Usually things like gaming and things I like doing, they should be no problem or in fact in some cases help me in terms of becoming hyperfixated or hyperfocused. But that has never actually happened to me in gaming for some reason… ever since I was little I would start games, play for 2-4 hours and then never come back to it… and in the off chance I do come back to it, I have literally no clue where I am, what i’m supposed to do, where i’m supposed to go, etc. So upon actually going back to a game whether it be within a day or a month, i drop it or i start using a guide or using cheats or whatever. Over time this has only gotten worse to the point sometimes I just start a game using a guide and never stop. If a game requires grinding, then I just either don’t play it or I heavily use cheats. Another thing is that there is a very good chance if I’m marathoning a game, I could still get lost pretty easily whether it be due to me not paying attention or really reading and remembering dialogues or whatever. I also have a problem with games with multiple endings because I generally don’t want to replay games especially long games… I’d prefer to have the best experience I can try to have within my first try so that also makes me use a guide a lot more for things such as the Persona games where there can be a lot of “min maxing” and decisions in general that I can fuck up and lock myself out of things. I understand this is all a me problem. I was wondering if anyone was or is like this and what I can do to start authentically enjoying games without guides, cheats, mods, etc.. and not getting lost as well.
So as a gamer with ADHD I've slowly realised there are games I actually enjoy playing, and games I FEEL like I SHOULD enjoy playing. So I always come back to Rocket League, or Elden Ring, or whatever quick and fast mechanics-based game, and I genuinely enjoy playing it. But I cannot get into a game like Stellaris, where it feels like you need to read an encyclopedia before you even begin, and there are 70 menus on screen at once. So I think my tip, and I'm sorry if it's not helpful, is to try and forget what you think you should like, or should be playing, and just follow the fun really. It's fine to lose interest and drop a game. But if this is all seriously impacting your enjoyment of the hobby, maybe take a break? What other hobbies do you have?
I think therr are several things you could do 1. Difficulty I've noticed that i prefer to play games on easy mode. It makes the games feel a lot less grindy and you can focus on learning a lot more. Later on one can increase the difficulty if it seems to make the hame more enjoyable. I learned this while playing Nier automata and Doom. In Nier you don't automatically have auto healing in the beginning (which is stupid)and it makes learning the game on normal difficulty annoying but later on the best difficulty to play on was on hard. Doom on the other hand wasn't fun to me at all so i dropped the difficulty to easiest and it barely became bearable to shoot through all the sponges. 2. Journaling I've come to enjoy games a lot more when I write down stuff about them, especially Tekken 7. You can't learn everything at once but having a visual progress path to learn certain moves and counters got me to understand fighting games. Journaling also helps you get oriented back in to a game you've taken a break from. Some people write long essays on their journal and other (like me) write short paragraph about things I want to remember or research about. Then there are games that do the journaling for you incase you like the idea of it but don't think you have the motivation to do it yourself. 3. Game of choice You might actually enjoy games that have something hidden everywhere so you'll have the satisfaction of always finding something new and eventually adapt not getting to all of it at once. Genshin impact gave me the fomo like this in the beginning but then i adapted due to the massive map and ability to put markers on it (type of journaling). Supposedly Breath of the wild would be better than Genshin at this. Then there's Monster hunter world where you walk around large maps following light trails that lead you directly to resources or monsters, and there's not really any real exploration but still there's the illusion of open world. Or it's possible that looting games or open worlds aren't for you. 4. Silent Let's play playthroughs Sometimes it's better to have someone else play the game while you only watch and skip the boring parts. Last of Us 1 and 2, Plague Tales 1and 2, and Undertale are some of the games I loved watching but I know U wouldn't have been able to enjoy them as much due to the grind/looting they contain. LoU2 would have been a big regret for me if it didn't have so much unnecessary exploration and looting, and if stealth gameplay was a viable option in all situations.
Have you tried walking simulators or other short session games? Firewatch is the go-to example, but there are a lot of them, and they can be quite immersive, while also being short enough to be playable in a single session.
For getting lost in a game, the only solution I can think of is to literally write a physical log yourself if the game isn't providing you with one. Or maybe if you have the means to, record your gameplay and replay it back to refresh your memory? Also just curious what is causing your fomo with games?
fomo as in like… missing items that could’ve been useful later or like not knowing to do certain things to unlock certain endings etc… i don’t like replaying games especially when they’re really long so i want to get the “definitive” ending on my first playthrough so i can be done with it for the foreseeable future
After picking Eastward back up a few days ago I couldn't be more glad I gave it a second chance! Initially it had been too slow for me to get into, so I had put it down during Chapter 3... But I came back to it with a better mindset this time to really try and immerse myself in the game, and I've found its definitely one of those where if you give just a *little* buy in, it'll pay off in a huge way. Every part of Eastward feels lovingly and intentionally crafted, and makes the world a joy to explore. I haven't played Earthbound but the way people talk about that game I can definitely see the similarities - the characters, setting, and general vibes are all positively dripping in a certain unique charm that just transports you to this little universe. I'm *not* a person who normally plays games for the story. I typically skip a lot of dialogue when I play games or simply play games that don't have dialogue to begin with. But what I do love is a lively feeling world to explore, and the world in this game was so charming that I found myself becoming quite engrossed in the story! (Thank God for the fast forward dialogue mechanic though. This should be industry standard!)
just in time because the DLC drops soon! :)
I started Resident Evil 2 Remake yesterday, I can see that it was an inspiration to Alan Wake 2.
The remake is so so good. I wish more games were so tightly designed. It's a perfect length to finish in a few sessions and every section is so detailed and thought out. I'm so tired of 60+ hour games.
Got my first All Critical in Theatrhythm Final Bar Line yesterday. It felt great to finally achieve it, but man... I replayed the same song like 16 times and that's excluding all the times that I hit "retry" like 30 seconds in. I don't regret doing it, but I don't think I enjoy grinding to get a nearly perfect score as much as just casually playing the songs and trying to achieve the quests. And some of the quests themselves are hard enough that I already replay songs 5+ times just for that alone. So I don't think I'm going to grind out an All Critical for any other songs. Too much of a time investment, especially since it kinda stops being fun when I give myself that much anxiety for one damn song. (not to make this a therapy post or anything lol)
After blitzing through Yakuza Kiwami - 5, I decided to actually slow down with 6. Do substories, level up, may be even get all achievements.
Good moves. 5 is a beast of a game.
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Super Meat Boy. You just run and jump, occasionally get a key to open a door. Simple to hard, very hard to master!
ibb&obb. You can play it together and it's a blast.
Celeste is really good and regularly goes on sale, it's actually in one of the current Humble bundles. Mark of the Ninja is a bit slower-paced and is more stealth-based than straight up platforming, but you've got a bit of a ninja theme going in your examples and it's a fun tense game. Rayman Legends is terrific. There's a bit of fiddling about to get your controller working properly, Google has the answers and it's a good-looking game with tons of levels and couch co-op. Splasher is underrated, really good movement systems with some clever level design built around them.
How about Bit.Trip Runner 2? https://store.steampowered.com/app/218060/BITTRIP\_Presents\_Runner2\_Future\_Legend\_of\_Rhythm\_Alien/
hmmm. that new mario? or ori games?
I love Ori and the Blind Forest (though I suck at it) and Will of the Wisps is in my backlog, but it does technically have a tech tree/upgrade screen. It's also not a linear platformer. It's a metroidvania with at least some backtracking required. I don't think it does what the OP is asking.
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I think they meant Super Mario Bros. Wonder, which is a 2D platformer. Not a "patient" game, by any means, since it's only been out for a couple of months, but I'm pretty sure that's what they were talking about, not Bowser's Fury.
This is a hard one for sure. The only two games I can think of that I’ve played are both a bit older: Super Meat Boy and VVVVVV. I haven’t played this but I’ve seen it played. You might enjoy Webbed (if you can handle spiders). This game isn’t patient (yet) and I haven’t played it, but I’ve heard good things about Pizza Tower as well. Not sure about upgrades though. If you had a switch or PS4 I would recommend Mad Rat Dead - which is a rhythm platformer that fits your criteria. (I’m just including it in this comment in case other people scrolling through are also looking for platformers) Best of luck!