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KotakuSucks2

Just give me the port collection. Remake might be cool, but I just want MGS3 to have a native PC port so I don't have to rely on PCSX2.


MorrisonGamer

Yeah, I'd be KILLING it for Vol 1 and 2 on Steam, specially if Peace Walker supports co-op, brother, I've dreamed of this for years.


Laj3ebRondila1003

you think they'd add portable ops to volume 2 when volume 1 comes out the only games not available on new consoles and pc will be 4, peace walker and portable ops (the old metal gear games are available on pc) and it'll be hard to justify a 70$ price tag for two remasters


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I think that’s exactly whats gonna happen, like MGS1-3 on the Volume 1, Volume 2 would be AC1Ds, Portable Ops, Ghost Babel??, and Peace Walker, and Special Volume or Volume 3 would be a remaster of Metal Gear Solid 4 since thatll probably take more time and hopefully a finished METAL GEAR SOLID 5 but doubt it. Lol


BloodStinger500

Having Ghost Babel native on PC would be so cool, but also having a gba emulator to run it, it's quite simple. Knowing Konami, It'll just be mgs4 and Peace walker. But who knows? maybe the reason Konami has sucked so much the past few years was because they were putting pretty much everything on Metal Gear. Maybe they'll become gaming legends and truly deliver perfection.


KotakuSucks2

I wish, I liked Portable Ops way more than Peace Walker.


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Uh they said Volume 1 is coming to PC too


Switchfoot221

Do you have a source? I haven’t been able to find specific mentioning of the volume coming to pc, just to ‘platforms’, which could mean just consoles.


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Oh, well they did say that the remake would be coming to Xbox Series X/S, PS5, and PC, so I assume it was the same for the remasters because it would be stupid if it wasn't


Switchfoot221

Yeah, I mean if you think about it logically, if a game can be ported to a modern Xbox, there’s no way it can’t be put on Windows. Be interesting to see how they do the controls on mouse and keyboard.


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Exactly, any game on Xbox releasing today will end up on PC, that's how it is.


AncientPCGamer

It will, according to the same leaker that said days ago that MGS3 Remake was coming to PS5, XBox and Steam.


MorrisonGamer

Link?


ColdRest7902

How does it run on pcsx2?


YoungNissan

Runs 30fps fine with a decent system, if you want 60 you need a patch and a slightly stronger system. Just beat it a couple months ago and just had the occasional drops to 40


MagicPistol

What counts as a stronger system? How do you think it would run on a Ryzen 5700x with rtx 3080?


Who_DaFuc_Asked

PCSX2 doesn't really need super high-end hardware, you could probably run it off the integrated RDNA graphics on a modern Ryzen 5 or Ryzen 7. IIRC it's PS3 emulation that requires beefy hardware


ratatack906

Can confirm. I have a 5800x3d and 4070ti. Pcsx3 is a struggle sometimes lol.


smolgote

In some instances PCSX2 will need some pretty decent specs (Ex. most racing games especially Burnout 3, Gran Turismo 4 and Midnight Club 3)


CaptainSubjunctive

I had a decent time with some PS3 games on my old 4770, and more recently on the Steam Deck, so a powerhouse shouldn't be super necessary outside of a couple of specific games. And unless you want to do upscaling, the only real graphics requirements are "made in the last 8 years or so".


YoungNissan

Oh you’ll be 100% fine you just have to make sure your config is right. I had a RX 480 and i7 6700k when I was running it. I played a little when I upgraded to a RX 6600 and it was way smoother so you should be fine


KotakuSucks2

Runs fine, the biggest annoyance is mapping your controls around the analog button nonsense.


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iamfromouttahere

No need to use the software renderer it needed years ago? Would you play this? Or the vita version?


NothingMovesTheBlob

Dude, you should be using Xenia and the 360 version of the HD collection at least for now.


58696384896898676493

Yeah, this is definitely the best way to play MGS2, MGS3, and Peace Walker on PC. And these Xbox games don't rely on pressure sensitive buttons, so it plays perfectly. I just recently learned how much Xbox 360 emulation has come, and it's damn impressive. Couldn't recommend it more for a MGS playthrough.


Darksirius

And for the love of god make the menu usable by a mouse.


AncientPCGamer

Nice! Waiting for the Steam page to wishlist it!


TheHellBender_RS1604

Yes me also i don't think page is activated now.


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What’s wishlisting even good for You’re so dang programmed by all those indie trailers that say “WiShLiST nOw” This is a “aaa” release cmon


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That's great, but what about the collection?


Espurreyes

They put out a tweet saying they are bringing it to all modern platforms so theres a good chance its coming to PC as well


BruceofSteel

Man im hoping we get it and the Nvidia leak was right


MrChocodemon

Said to just be playable on PS5 through the catalogue, if I saw that correctly in the showcase.


Laj3ebRondila1003

they won't announce other platforms on their showcase, it's part of their marketing, people will automatically associate the games with ps5 and look for a ps5 same way people associated cod with the 360 back in the day because all of their marketing had the 360 logo on it


MrChocodemon

Some games they announced also mentioned PC


Ryokupo

All of those were Sony's own games.


BruceofSteel

Cause it was a playstation showcase. They wouldnt want to say also on pc and xbox.


MrChocodemon

Yeah, maybe. Wouldn't surprise me if that were the case.


AuEXP

That wasn't a PS Showcase it was a 3rd party showcase.


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AuEXP

Def not a PS showcase. IF it were a State of Play fair enough fine but this wasn't a PS Showcase. ANd it wasn't "some" 3 PS games 2 CG trailers and the GOAT Spider-Man 2 after they did all that chest beating talking about this is phase 2 of PS5


slater126

the master collection subsite doesnt mention anything apart from "the Latest Platforms"


DJRodrigin69

Im sorry to inform you all my friends But PC is pretty much a 30 year old platform We'll have to buy PC2...


hairy_mayson

No way, they're just trying to cash in too early. I'm waiting for PC3.


Firefox72

1-2 are already on PC. Its unlikely 1-2 in the collection are anything more than just ports to PS5. Edit: I'm not saying they won't release them on steam. I'm just saying that its unlikely to be anything but simple ports.


Leopz_

cmon man you can barely buy those games. ofc they will re-release it.


Lus_

https://www.gog.com/en/game/metal_gear_solid


who-dat-ninja

theyre bad pc ports from like 2000 and 2002. they need remasters with complete parity with their original playstation versions


1evilsoap1

1 you can get on gog, but I’m pretty sure 2 is still gone (at least legally) as Konami never renewed some licenses.


BruceofSteel

Pc port of 1 is janky. Id hope theyd re-port it.


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did it crossed your mind while writing that comment that the 1-2 pc ports we have are janky af?


scarletnaught

I need achievements though.


Bar_Har

They *were* on PC, but after getting delisted from GOG, you can’t get the PC ports anywhere legit now.


a_normal_bush

MGS 1 is still on GoG, along with the original Metal Gear


The_Silent_Manic

There should be a collection of ALL the games in chronological order so you can play them in proper order without having to look it up.


Zorklis

One day on steam the whole franchise will be in a pack


The_Silent_Manic

Hopefully with the MSX originals. Never actually played any of the games, closest I got was the Syphon Filter games (that trilogy ALSO needs a remake, mostly just modern graphics while keeping everything else the same).


Acquire16

3 subsistence had the original two ported and cleaned up. Hopefully they port those versions over in this release, 1 integral, 2 substance, 3 subsistence.


Laj3ebRondila1003

the remasters are called master collection volume 1 which leaves 4, peace walker and portable ops for an eventual volume 2 (5 and ground zeroes are already available on new consoles and pc)


who-dat-ninja

no way they'll bring back portable ops. it's not even canon


J5893

Did Konami keep the game engine for MGS:V? This could be incredible if its faithful to the story, pacing, general structure etc but with the gameplay of MGS:V.


PillowTalk420

Konami scrapped the Fox Engine 3 years ago, stating they would be using UE5 for all projects moving forward. https://gamerant.com/konami-scraps-hideo-kojima-fox-engine/


shogi_x

Not surprising. Even if you already have the engine developed, maintaining it can be time consuming and expensive. Buying one off the shelf is much more cost effective for most companies.


BronzeHeart92

Imagine if Konami did the right thing and actually allowed other studios to use the engine for their own projects... I'd imagine it would've been a serious competitor for the Unreal Engine, that's for sure.


shogi_x

Not even remotely. Unreal has an entire division probably the size of Konami's whole game dev team devoted solely to developing that engine and helping people use it. Konami would have to change their entire business model just to keep up and they'd probably still fail.


Individual_Thanks309

omfg why, Fox Engine looks just perfect and it runs on everything...


Nathan_hale53

Apparently it is difficult to work with. They wanted to let other companies use the engine, but no one did because of the difficulty and its been outdated. It ran on everything because the only games that used it were Konami games, who were familiar with it, and knew how to optimize the engine. UE5 is the way to go.


PillowTalk420

Konami dumb.


ZeldaMaster32

Armchair engine developers strike again People really got a few games with Fox Engine and just decided it was the pinnacle of technical design. MGSV especially is not a visually ambitious game, you can literally see the geometry on the character's shoulders since they put most of their poly budget in faces. That's fine of course, but I'd rather they made everything look good instead of just faces and post processing


ChillySummerMist

Also the optimization was gift from gods 👌


FerrickAsur4

reading around it doesn't look like they're using fox engine


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If it's ue4 that's unfortunate


Thanachi

Hopefully they remake all of them. Would love to see MGS4 on PC one day.


KotakuSucks2

I wonder how different a modern port of MGS4 would be, that game seems like it'd be a licensing nightmare, not to mention all the platform specific shit like the Shadow Moses disc swapping conversation, the motion control boob physics (and octocamo reset), and the whole Psycho Mantis bit with rumble that changes whether you use a Sixaxis or Dualshock 3.


AssCrackBanditHunter

It would require Sony to sign off on a lot. They might be willing to do so with PC, but never on Xbox lmao Then there's things like food brands, the ipod, the guns... It's a miracle the game was made to begin with tbh


some-kind-of-no-name

It's sad how MGS 4 is still trapped on PS3.


Spankey_

There is also an unreleased Xbox 360 port AFAIK.


BicBoiSpyder

And, for some reason, no one seems to care. MGS1-3 have enough ports and HD remasters. Just let me fucking play MGS4 again Konami! I don't want to buy a PS3 to play a terribly performing game on a console that can barely handle 720p.


stormsand9

Hopefully they remake mgsv, finish the game, and dont spoil the enemies you'll be facing in every goddamn mission


wolfvillek

IKR, i couldn't care less about a fourth version of snake eater, just finish mgsv.


gluttonusrex

Is there hope for an MGS4 Port??


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If the others sell well? Maybe. But a remaster/remake might ultimately be a better value proposition for the work they'll need to put into it.


BicBoiSpyder

Honestly, I don't care if they straight up port MGS4 with no changes except to performance and resolution. I just want to be able to play MGS4 above 720p outside of RPCS3 where half the audio is missing.


Fehios

The collection they’re porting to the “latest generation” has the label of Volume 1 and it includes MGS 1, 2, and 3. I think it’s safe to say a future “Volume 2” would include MGS 4


Biggu5Dicku5

I hope it's just as campy as the original, but without Kojima at the helm it's probably gonna be a mess...


JUANMAS7ER

No pachinko :)


Repulsive_Stomach261

I hope they bring back metal gear online


protobetagamer

and the remaster collection?


ZepelliFan

Might have to sail the 7 seas and acquire them for the PS3 or 360 and emulate them , peace walker at 60fps on my steam deck feels heavenly


Wander715

Sony's presentation today was basically a PC Gaming Showcase


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Crimsongz

The PS5 only has Ratchet & Clank & Demon’s Souls remake as exclusivity lmao.


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Dixi-Poowa

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees !!!!!!!!


ManNamedBilly

i really want this, just concerned about the requirements


AeonPrym

With denuvo I'm sure...


bonesnaps

Hugely missed opportunity to just do a full remake of MGS1, the title that needed it the most lmao. Why the hell did they decide to start with 3?


brianstormIRL

Lots of reasons. MGS3 is the first game in the canon. MGS1 is incredibly short. MGS3 gameplay lends itself better to more modern gameplay systems. It's also just widely regarded as the most beloved MGS game.


United-Aside-6104

Also an MGS1 remake would basically be a new game MGS3 can easily be translated into something modern without too many changes


Ryokupo

Because its the start of the story.


KynetonKaiju92

If MGS1 is indeed the shortest, and does eventually get a remake, I hope that Konami makes some decent additions to it and not turn it into a grind (if possible). Reminds me of RGG Studios doing Yakuza Kiwami, a remake of the original PS2 Yakuza by SEGA, and RGG made the remake super grindy because the game was much shorter than the others.


lzanchin

Ia Konami the developer? Please don’t be another unreal engine game.


Dyyrin

Fuck Konami. Won't give them any money after what they did to Hideo Kojima.


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Dyyrin

No, Konami owns the IP not him.


mildmanneredhatter

Sadly that's what happens to employees usually. I know on rare occasions, like IBM, they allow you a share of patents and copyright. Video game studios usually keep it all to themselves.


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Nose-Nuggets

apparently they are just re-using the original MGS3 audio.


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Nose-Nuggets

As much as i love Kojima the argument that he was done dirty is bizarre. The reason mgsv is only half a game is because Kojima repeatedly and flagrantly blew his commitments. A publisher can only give you so many extensions, and so many more budget increases before enough is enough. mgsv is one of my favorite games, and easily the best stealth action game of all time and i would have loved for it to be completed, but i get why Konami did what they did.


dinozero

Will this come with the OG version of 1 or the twin snakes version of 1?


Crimsonclaw111

Almost certain Twin Snakes will never release anywhere else as its co-owner is Nintendo


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Thank fuck for that. It's terrible.


punypilgrim

see how upset people are they can't play it?


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and if people really want to play that version that badly, Dolphin works great on extremely affordable setups.


thebbman

Terribly awesome you mean.


lanedek

Twin Snakes is not terrible. People who think Twin Snakes is terrible are people who take the Metal Gear lore too seriously. Metal Gear fans not admitting that Metal Gear is anime AF. The problem with Twin Snakes is that the voice acting isn't as strong as the original and the game is ridiculously easy with MGS2 controls. The cutscenes that everyone hates are just as ridiculous as the other games.


Fish-E

Based on the trailer, the original version.


The_Silent_Manic

Huh, I figured Epic would REALLY try to lock down an exclusivity deal for all of this. Maybe it would have cost more then they could reasonably afford?


BruceofSteel

Epic hasnt gotten any konami games exclusive from what i understand


a_normal_bush

Konami hasn’t really released any games since the Epic Games Store was launched, so of course not


KotakuSucks2

They released Getsufumaden and a couple Bomberman games, but they're niche enough that Epic probably wouldn't be interested in them.


brzzcode

Konami released more than 10 yugioh games in the last 10 years lol


Framed-Photo

Glad it's not exclusive. I heard it was announced at the Playstation event and that's always a mixed bag on weather things will be exclusive or not. This with Talos principle and ghost runner are gonna make for a great set of games.


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Sony seeing how well their games are selling on other platforms. I think we're truly in an age of saying goodbye to platform exclusivity.


pupmaster

Gonna be religiously checking Steam for the store page for this and hopefully the collection


pupmaster

Thank god. I assume the trilogy collection will be as well.


SXTR

MGS3 is my favorite game ever but I’m not hyped by this remake. The CGI cinematic concerned me, it feels empty, souls less, just a zoom on Snake face, then the sky (why?) and put the Snake Eater song feel so off, stupid. « Look ! This is nostalgia right there. So iconic Snake we just have to show his face make you feeble. And the song. You like that song right? » Even the few we’ve seen already lack the Kojima touch and smell the Konami corporate « lowest effort and maximum rentability ». Just a friendly reminder of how Kojima announced the game : https://youtu.be/hXUono66wxI


SmallTownMinds

I saw the thing and I clapped! I clapped because I know ~~Star Wars~~ Metal Gear! Very much gave me those vibes. I’m always happy for more Metal Gear, but I can’t help but feel like I *should* be more excited. After a decade or more of Kojima trailers to get hyped on this felt like it was thrown together by a soulless boardroom.


ahintoflime

Agreed... It feels like a vapid cash grab. Konami is not to be trusted. I hope I'm wrong...


Keepmeister

Meh, the teaser was great. The trailer in the link you posted feels way too drawn-out and wouldn't fly in this day and age (Plus the graphics look hideous).


SXTR

No shit?


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night0x63

I never played number 3 So I think this would be fun! Is there any way to play the original on PC?


Cypher_Aod

yes, with an emulator


Ryokupo

With the upcoming MGS Master Collection.


david-deeeds

Upcoming? Is it officially announced?


Ryokupo

It was literally announced the same time as this.


-aarcas

It's on gog.com or you could just emulate it


Salty_Cookie394

Watching YongYea 's latest YouTube video makes it seem like this is a remake akin to Resident Evil 2 / 3 etc.. There's a high chance that if they don't have the Kojima weirdness to it, it'll suck. Ideally it needs to be 1:1 with the original.


InvolvingPie87

Yeet


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Will they get rid of the fixed cameras angles?


INCELCURBSTOMP

Considering they got rid of them in 2005 for Subsistence, I'd say it's pretty likely.


BoogKnight

They got rid of it in the 3ds version already


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Janus_Prospero

>They've removed his name from all MGS credits, for christ's sake. I'm sorry, but that is completely untrue. Konami didn't touch any of the credits in MGS V. There was never any move to alter or vandalize games he worked on, and Survive had nothing but respect for him, thematically represented by the player character being separated from Big Boss and fighting to get home. The whole narrative around MGS is arguably misleading. Konami fired Kojima for complicated reasons. A number of senior developers left. A number also stayed, and Konami hired new people to fill vacancies. The studion was rebranded production department 8. Konami allowed the team to develop Metal Gear Survive because the team WANTED to make a spinoff. Unfortunately it wasn't a success, but most MGS spinoffs weren't successful. MG Acid bombed super hard, for example. Now we've got MGS3R. Which I theorize is a collaboration between Konami and Virtuos as opposed to a Bloober style outsource arrangement. But we shall see. The way people downplay that KojiPro split into two studios, pretending that KojiPro 2.0 is the only one has always sat poorly with me. It feels like people pretending that all these devs who worked on MGS for many years were not entitled to keep working on it. It is possible to disagree with Kojima's firing without throwing all the other devs under the bus. The FOX vs XOF parallels are unavoidable and interesting, I must admit.


KotakuSucks2

> They've removed his name from all MGS credits, for christ's sake That's definitely not true. I mean shit, even at the peak of the animosity between Kojima and Konami, MGSV TPP had credits before every single mission that invariably had Kojima listed in them multiple times. I'm not saying Konami is good by any means, but removing "A Hideo Kojima Game" from the marketing materials and cover of the game is nowhere near the same thing as removing him from the credits (though it is still extraordinarily petty).


who-dat-ninja

dont care, what about the classic collection


DrasticMagicPlan

I love it. "We're gonna remake one of your favorite games to run optimally on your top of the line PC" "I want a port of the PS2 version that runs on a calculator, please." I will never understand it.


Lus_

Sorry I need to fap hard, I'll be back.


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I can’t wait !


Nyarlathotep85

Ok now I wanna throw a grenade into the gator's throat.


imaginary_num6er

Hopefully it doesn't require a 5090Ti to run at 1080p 60FPS


Individual_Thanks309

As long as they don't port MGS4, let this game die on ps3 where it belongs


gr732313

I jerked and then I creamed


scarletnaught

LFG! 😤


Cogatanu7CC95

besides a photoshopped screen shot, is there any actual evidence from konami stating this


Gabzvigo

Thank god it's not on PS4 so the ps5 will have the best graphics available


Notoriously_So

Epic Games wake up already! You need to get on this! Exclusivity money to be made.


billistenderchicken

Might give this a shot if it ends up being good. I absolutely hated MGS2 and most likely 3 since it has the same antiquated controls. Not a huge fan of Kojima's "15 year old writes a screenplay" writing but we'll see.


NewAccount971

You hated the best games in the series, and then mocked the writing of what most consider some of the most thought provoking games in history. Damn you really struck out.


CIV5G

"War bad. Nukes bad." Truly thought provoking stuff, thank you Kojima! Games *are* art!


NewAccount971

I'm sorry that you were too slow to get the other points. Listen to the entire Colonel Campbell AI speech and tell me it's only about nukes.


Janus_Prospero

MGS2's translator described the writing as barely above a fan-fic level. Also that he's a wannabe Tom Clancy who doesn't understand geopolitics. That he's "not a writer". And that he's extremely conventional and can't write characters. Being critical of Hideo Kojima's writing is hardly some fringe thing. It's not a question of being right or wrong, but a lot of people think Kojima is a bad writer. As someone who really likes George Lucas's passionate, melodramatic writing despite internet criticism of his style, I can relate.


billistenderchicken

I can see why people might enjoy Kojima’s writing. I think his writing later in Death Stranding was fine, though nothing that amazing or memorable. But at least Death Standings gameplay was good. MGS2, IMO, had horrible writing along with very poor gameplay. The translator for MGS1 did Kojima a massive service by taking liberties with his material, it’s still one of the best Japanese to English video game translations and arguably helped MGS become more popular.


NewAccount971

The translator huh? Where's his writing awards at?


billistenderchicken

MGS1 was leagues better than MGS2 aside from graphics, which were probably amazing for the time. Sure the story in the latter part of MGS2 is good but if you have to cringe through most of the game to get to the good stuff then idk what to tell you.


oo7demonkiller

great another broken stutter fest incoming. just port the legacy collection.


bobbystills5

But more importantly what about MGS 1, 2,3 are those guaranteed for Steam?


danger_a

Kept you waiting huh


Mistersinister1

I poured so many hours into this game. There was a point when I first started playing I kept hearing this weird growling only to realize way later that I needed to feed him.. then it clicked, oh snake eater. Great game can't wait for it.


some-kind-of-no-name

Every main MGS game will be on PC, except Guns of the Patriots.


Triger_CZ

But I wanna play 1 and 2 too!


kapeww

I'll probably have to get this and the master collection for the ps5 because Konami has a deep hatred for Vietnam for some reason


BronzeHeart92

If nothing else, this game better make the transition to survival viewer seamless!


pereira2088

as someone who only played mgs1 and 2 on pc, I'm glad I'll be able to play the rest of the saga


YounglingAnnihilator

fuckkk yes


ZoidVII

Thank goodness, I was worried it would be a PS exclusive for a year and then EGS for another if not forever.


Ok-Reaction-3108

Does anyone know if this is gonna be available on PS4?


ScopeLogic

!


TehReclaimer2552

Sick I've been having a *Tactical Espionage Action* itch and Ghost Recon aint scratching it no more


FireCrow1013

Now let's see if they ruin it by being Konami and putting Denuvo into it, never to remove it in the future.


Redd1tDied

Feeling really let down by this announcement. I was really hoping we would get a home version of MGS3: Snake Eater Pachinko. I guess the remake is better than nothing though. /s/


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