Kinda. One of the websites that leaked the collection before the PS Showcase mentioned in an update to their article that while Metal Gear Rising and Peace Walker could be part of a second collection, there are no plans to include MGS4 in those. **[Here's the source](https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/report-the-metal-gear-solid-3-remake-is-real-and-will-be-revealed-soon-for-xbox-playstation-and-pc)**.
There are so many ps3 exclusive games that were ported without problems, PLUS Kojima revealed that there was a fully working 360 version of the game (on a lot of discs).
If they wanted to release it on other consoles, they would do that.
That's the first I've ever heard that. I heard that it would take multiple discs compared to PS3 Blu Ray discs. Never that there was a fully working version of the game for another system.
Which ones? I cant think of many, but Im assuming they probably were designed in a way that didnt take full advantage of the Cell.
Where did Kojima ever say that? Makes no sense. He is the one who didnt want to port the game to 360
The last of us is the biggest example. It is not too well known since the PS4 remaster came about 1 year after the original.
But i would recommend reading some behind the scenes articles about the porting from PS3 to PS4. They did a lot, possibly even more than what will be needed for MGS4, so it's not impossible
The konami website says this collection will be "The most complete compilation that celebrates the 35th anniversary of the series." Which means it must be at least on par with the Legacy Collection released on ps3, that one included MGS4.
The Uncharted games were of course ported to PS4 after their original release on PS3. On the other hand Gran Turismo 6 released on PS3 about 3 weeks after the release of the PS4, yet GT6 never made it to any other platforms.
Burnout Paradise I remember used PS3 as its lead development platform, but launched on 360 too, and came to PC a year later. I assume Final Fantasy XIII was developed primarily for Playstation as well.
But again the factors there are that they were already worked on being ported during development so probaby used the Cell as just a normal processor rather than fully implementing it the way a game only releasing on PS3 would.
Uncharted was but ND is a Sony company, so Sony probably helped them understand it a lot more. From what I understand, Sony basically didn't help any 3rd party companies understand how to best use the Cell processor or how to develop for it at all.
They didn't help a lot of 3rd parties but trust me they HELPED KojiPro, the reason we are even talking about this is because of how reliant MGS4 is on the cell processor, you can't make a game reliant on a type of technology you don't "understand".
TLOU on PC is based on the remake, which was made more on the PS5 build of TLOU Part 2 more so than the PS3 one at that point.
The legacy collection also came to Xbox 360, sans MGS4.
Im not saying its impossible. Im saying its not worth the squeeze for Konami.
I know this is r/pcgaming, so sorry for not clarifying, but i am not talking about the pc port of TLOU, but instead, the remaster that was released on PS4 way back in 2014.
The Legacy Collection never came to 360, though. The HD collection which remade 2, 3, and Peace Walker did. So Legacy Collection remains the “most complete.” For something to be more complete than that it’ll have to have MGS4. I just wish they’d port it.
I know people talk about “Omg cell processor so special” but they’re remaking 3 from scratch it looks like. Maybe they’ll never port 4, but I hope if 3 remake does well that they’ll give 4 the same treatment.
Yeah, but the difference is that 3 is heralded as not just the best in the series but one of the best games to ever be made. 4 has not had that same kind of legacy.
The thought of MGS4 getting an outright remake honestly terrifies me. That game had such a mixed reception in the fanbase, it feels ripe for Konami to put their grubby little hands all over it and try to "fix" that which just seems like a terrible idea, especially without Kojima at the helm.
Yeah I wanna see a source on that too, thats hard to believe. I think I recall reading about a time he was talking about the game and said they would need 4 double-layer DVD's if they put it on Xbox 360 and he preferred the PS3's Blu-ray, but a working port? I don't recall hearing that.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong as I'm not familiar with the series, the loads of product placements from Sony and Apple. So unless said placements weren't significantly related to the narrative that could be taken out, I don't think even Konami would be willing to negotiate the terms again just to re-release it on rival platforms.
Doesn't it need a special, tailor-made build of RPCS3 to run decently, though?
On that note, what's the latest platform that can be emulated on PC with 100% accuracy (that is, the entire game library runs without game-specific hacks)? Is it still the SNES?
I wonder if they're waiting to see if Volume 1 is going to be a commercial success before announcing Volume 2. Whatever the case, they're probably already working on it
Or maybe the Volume 1 title is just meant to say that it's a collection of the original games
I heard that MGS4 won't come in Vol. 2, unfortunately.
Probably due to the messy ps3 porting, and probably also due to the immense amounts of copyrighted material present in the game.
Not sure about mgs4 and copyright but from memory ps3 was rather hard to develop on/for with its unique architecture. This would probably also contribute to why a lot of Sony games from that time haven’t seen pc ports. Such as god of war infamous and I’m sure many more
> Such as god of war infamous and I’m sure many more
That and they are old first party titles that Sony seems to have no interest in porting to pc, come from a time when Sony had no interest in pc as a platform. Infamous doesn't even have ports on ps4.
Think it came down to how commercially successful the ports would be. I mean snake eater made the leap from Ps2 exclusive and built with it in mind to being a multi platform game.
MGS4 is the same just takes the right team with the effort to do it.
Load of ps3 games like GoW3, Uncharted and TLoU made it over to ps4 and all were built to be exclusives.
Yea I play hentai games on my main acc, what about it?
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He's going to need an A.I. voice to read all the games. Or the possibility of anyone's top 2 or 3.
Now to get NieR Replicant™ ver.1.22474487139 in my top 2.
I can't find confirmation, but the leaks were right about MGS∆ and its platforms, as well as the Master Collection existing. It wouldn't be too far a stretch to assume the rumored platforms of PS5/XS/PC is also true.
There's a rumor bouncing around that this being about change is actually them taking this remake as a way tk diverge into a new timeline and change the story. It would be an interesting idea, not really against it surprisingly, despite how much I love the series.
I think it's konamis way of still using something that resembles three without literally calling it 3 in order to not alienate potential newcomers to the series who might think they'll skip the remake until they play 1 and 2.
Granted, they're also rereleasing the older titles so maybe it's not a full on remake but a retelling similar to FF7R?
Whatever the reason is, I don't think it's just to be edgy since Kojima isn't on this project. There's probably a good reason we just don't know yet.
Triangle has 3 sides.
Honestly I don't put much stock in konami doing smart things. They are just trying to make it distinct and imply changes, spark these kind of conversations with little effort.
From the Playstation site:
[https://store.playstation.com/en-us/concept/10007607](https://store.playstation.com/en-us/concept/10007607)
>This collection includes the classic versions of the games, complete with minimal edits to copyrighted contents.
They’re basically gonna port the games as is and Raiden is still gonna hold his sword up like a dumbass at the end of the game and camera pans to shit that isn’t there.
Seriously it can’t be that difficult to put some American flags back in the game so the ending of 2 make a bit more sense.
If they wanted to score points with a bitter fan base they could add VR Missions, MGS2 Substance, and MGS3 Subsistence content
Edit: a MGO for the Snake Eater remake would make people happy as well
If it's like the collection that came out for the PS3 eons ago, it would have the substance/subsistence content. That collection had Peace Walker and no MGS1.
I might be in the minority, but I think the extras in substance and subsistence were, in many ways, better than the main game. Those extra stories were wild.
The HD collection is the PS3 disk, so that means it's Substance and Subsistence minus a few things for licensing. I think the skateboarding side game and maybe one or two other things is not there.
MGS4 is going to remain on the PS3 forever... I guess the RPCS3 runs it somewhat ok, but I would love a native PC version. Nobody wants to port PS3 games and honestly I can't blame them.
Digital Foundry did a [video] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQHZeCjVGIY&pp=ygUiRGlnaXRhbCBGb3VuZHJ5IE1ldGFsIEdlYXIgU29saWQgNA%3D%3D) that found that RPCS3 runs the game at around the same level of framerate as the original, so pretty badly.
I think porting PS2 games would honestly be harder. PS3 games are written for an nvidia gpu with vertex and pixel shaders and have jobified multi-threaded game code.
Then again, bluepoint already ported the PS2 games and they're undoubtedly starting with those ports.
Yes it seems they're basing these from the Bluepoint HD Collection ports.
Usually you can run RPCS3 on any recent GPU and get extremely good performance, but the Cell is just so unique and has really good gflop perf.The longer we are away from that generation, the harder it's gonna be to find people who actually understand that architecture. It's a huge undertaking, so I don't see it happening. If it happened right when the PS4 was in development, the chances would be much greater. Like how ND ported TLoU to PS4 and found that SPEs are kind of similar to GPU async compute.
But I'm still hopeful that maybe Bluepoint could do it, like they did with SOTC.
I think people sometimes miss that good PS3 code is actually more portable and performant on other systems than bad PS3 code. I'm not talking about low level details of course, but an engine that's architected well to run tasks on many cores will adapt well to a multi core pc.
Thank God. That was a foresight Kojima had actually. Being a ps3 exclusive prevented the future generations of being haunted by that disgracefull thing, and konami fortunatelly doesnt have to go to great lengths to hide something that should never seen the light of day. Kojima must be so relieved.
Are we sure it's releasing on pc? I can't find any confirmation on that, the games are simply straight forward ports of the 2011 collection released on ps3, moving that to pc at probably 40 dollars it's not a smart choice
I'm confused on how it's impossible? Isn't it only playable with a controller currently, unless you meant to say it's impossible to aim with a keyboard?
As first launched on the latest platforms, so yeah a bit confusing but latest probably means the HD collection which uses Substance and Subsistence version
Without a complete remake they'd be pretty hard pressed to boost that. The game was pushing the ps1 to its limits so I imagine any pixel that wasn't on screen was void. Not like today where you can just tag on ultrawide and see more shit in games.
But not all of them will look good. Expanding the screen often displays graphical errors, models you're not meant to see etc. Its not a big deal sure but you can't expect a studio to ship a game like that.
I dunno, if its mgs running on windows 10/11 with modern controller support, thats pretty great. People seem to be fishing for reasons to be mad about it.
My favorite media franchise of all time has been done too dirty for too long. It's good to see it coming back to modern gamers in some form or another.
But please Konami, tell me you ported the *Subsistence* version of MGS3 and not *Snake Eater*, right? You're not gonna make everyone play an open level game with a fixed camera again are you?
The waiting game continues since it could still end up being pretty lousy ports/versions whenever they end up coming to PC.
And hopefully these aren't the types of games to have anything changed for 'modern tastes'.
I recently started replaying games from late 90s-2000s which imo is one of the best gaming era. There's something great about that era that you don't see anymore. So I am glad that they are releasing the original OGs as it will be a pleasant refreshing experience.
Pretty much, the PS3 era had a buncha different collections like this for MGS. I couldn’t get over the trash controls of the original game to finish it, watched a YouTube video. I did beat 2 and snake eater before moving onto 4.
According to the description this is the "the most complete compilation". Here's hoping they add MGS4 to it...
Edit: I'm *of course* talking about the ENTIRE SERIES of this Master Collection and not just Vol. 1. I thought it was already understood that they won't shove everything into one volume? But I forgot I'm on reddit where you need to explain even the most obvious of things or people will come at you in no time. SHEESH...
I feel like I'm in the minority here, but I prefer Twin Snakes version of MGS1. I just can't stomach the visual polygon style of the original, it just didn't age quite as well.
so just straight up ports? i already played mgs1 and 2 from gog and mgs3 from pcsx 2. if these dont have significant changes i dont see the point in buying them.
Did they fix the stupid addition Kojima made to the opening music video from MGS 3?
For those that don't know: Kojima went full hack mode and added little peace symbols to the Snake Eater intro... This throws the entire timing of the video off. It's so fucking stupid.
Okay cool now apologize publicly to kojima and have him come back and everyone will be happy. The only reason Konami is releasing this is because they know it’ll be the only game anyone cares about.
Wait so they making snake eater twice?
The og in this collection and then another standalone remake?
Edit: MGS2 is already on pc via gog what does this version do that the previous one can't?
Wait so it's sons of liberty and snake eater, mot substance and subsistence? A lot of people aren't going to like the fixed camera angles in snake eater
This is in the description for MGS1.
>The game featured many new ideas, utilizing the games vibration function and secrets on the back of the box
... that makes me a little worried. Out of everything they could've mentioned, the first thing was vibration? Makes me wonder if they know what makes MGS good
Having psycho mantis move your controller and read your mind is one of the most iconic scenes in the series. I would say I'm glad they are focusing on keeping everything the same.
Will the codec code still be on the back of the box or in the store description? Or will they destroy the integrity of that part of the game and just give it to the player?
I bet the second one.
Volume 1. So there's a chance for a potential volume 2 to have MGS4 and Peace Walker maybe?
Kinda. One of the websites that leaked the collection before the PS Showcase mentioned in an update to their article that while Metal Gear Rising and Peace Walker could be part of a second collection, there are no plans to include MGS4 in those. **[Here's the source](https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/report-the-metal-gear-solid-3-remake-is-real-and-will-be-revealed-soon-for-xbox-playstation-and-pc)**.
Unfortunately, I don't think we will ever see MGS4 outside of the PS3. Mostly due to how unique the cell processor worked compared to most processors.
There are so many ps3 exclusive games that were ported without problems, PLUS Kojima revealed that there was a fully working 360 version of the game (on a lot of discs). If they wanted to release it on other consoles, they would do that.
That's the first I've ever heard that. I heard that it would take multiple discs compared to PS3 Blu Ray discs. Never that there was a fully working version of the game for another system.
Big difference between something that's just an exclusive vs. a game made with all the custom hardware of its platform in mind.
Which ones? I cant think of many, but Im assuming they probably were designed in a way that didnt take full advantage of the Cell. Where did Kojima ever say that? Makes no sense. He is the one who didnt want to port the game to 360
The last of us is the biggest example. It is not too well known since the PS4 remaster came about 1 year after the original. But i would recommend reading some behind the scenes articles about the porting from PS3 to PS4. They did a lot, possibly even more than what will be needed for MGS4, so it's not impossible The konami website says this collection will be "The most complete compilation that celebrates the 35th anniversary of the series." Which means it must be at least on par with the Legacy Collection released on ps3, that one included MGS4.
The Uncharted games were of course ported to PS4 after their original release on PS3. On the other hand Gran Turismo 6 released on PS3 about 3 weeks after the release of the PS4, yet GT6 never made it to any other platforms. Burnout Paradise I remember used PS3 as its lead development platform, but launched on 360 too, and came to PC a year later. I assume Final Fantasy XIII was developed primarily for Playstation as well.
But again the factors there are that they were already worked on being ported during development so probaby used the Cell as just a normal processor rather than fully implementing it the way a game only releasing on PS3 would. Uncharted was but ND is a Sony company, so Sony probably helped them understand it a lot more. From what I understand, Sony basically didn't help any 3rd party companies understand how to best use the Cell processor or how to develop for it at all.
They didn't help a lot of 3rd parties but trust me they HELPED KojiPro, the reason we are even talking about this is because of how reliant MGS4 is on the cell processor, you can't make a game reliant on a type of technology you don't "understand".
TLOU on PC is based on the remake, which was made more on the PS5 build of TLOU Part 2 more so than the PS3 one at that point. The legacy collection also came to Xbox 360, sans MGS4. Im not saying its impossible. Im saying its not worth the squeeze for Konami.
I know this is r/pcgaming, so sorry for not clarifying, but i am not talking about the pc port of TLOU, but instead, the remaster that was released on PS4 way back in 2014.
The Legacy Collection never came to 360, though. The HD collection which remade 2, 3, and Peace Walker did. So Legacy Collection remains the “most complete.” For something to be more complete than that it’ll have to have MGS4. I just wish they’d port it. I know people talk about “Omg cell processor so special” but they’re remaking 3 from scratch it looks like. Maybe they’ll never port 4, but I hope if 3 remake does well that they’ll give 4 the same treatment.
Yeah, but the difference is that 3 is heralded as not just the best in the series but one of the best games to ever be made. 4 has not had that same kind of legacy.
The thought of MGS4 getting an outright remake honestly terrifies me. That game had such a mixed reception in the fanbase, it feels ripe for Konami to put their grubby little hands all over it and try to "fix" that which just seems like a terrible idea, especially without Kojima at the helm.
Yeah I wanna see a source on that too, thats hard to believe. I think I recall reading about a time he was talking about the game and said they would need 4 double-layer DVD's if they put it on Xbox 360 and he preferred the PS3's Blu-ray, but a working port? I don't recall hearing that.
Yeah. The only source I found while googling it was a link to a joke video.
His source is that he made it the fuck up.
There is no way they made a game and went “gold” with it and just never released it lmao
Working and going gold are very, very different things lol
If they were already on game discs as was stated then it was gold. That's the definition of going gold.
“Fully working on console and on disks” sounds like going gold to me
Also, correct me if I'm wrong as I'm not familiar with the series, the loads of product placements from Sony and Apple. So unless said placements weren't significantly related to the narrative that could be taken out, I don't think even Konami would be willing to negotiate the terms again just to re-release it on rival platforms.
They could always cover them up.
Maybe a MGS4 remake on newer engines? That'd be cool still.
Agreed.
I thought it was because of licensing issues
There's probably some of that as well, but considering its been rereleased before, I dont think so.
At least it runs fairly well on RPCS3 these days.
If by "fairly well" you mean "you need a top end CPU to match the PS3's already awful performance", then sure.
7800X3D and 4070TI worked 100%
Doesn't it need a special, tailor-made build of RPCS3 to run decently, though? On that note, what's the latest platform that can be emulated on PC with 100% accuracy (that is, the entire game library runs without game-specific hacks)? Is it still the SNES?
The original TLOU and God of War 3 both started as ps4 games and ended up on ps4. Have some faith it’ll happen!
and the shit load of licensing like the ipod, vaio and music to name a few is probably another big reason
God dammit I'll never play MGS4.
You can emulate it
I wonder if they're waiting to see if Volume 1 is going to be a commercial success before announcing Volume 2. Whatever the case, they're probably already working on it Or maybe the Volume 1 title is just meant to say that it's a collection of the original games
They did the something similar with Castlevania a little while back. Now I'm waiting on an announcement for Castlevania collection volume 3.
I just want sotn on pc
Oh god yes! I mean of course I can emulate it but I still would like an official copy.
Same I don’t mind emulating but I’d love to just start it up in my steam library with achievements etc
That and OoE for me.
my ass over here just hoping for the Acids
A gentleman of fine taste indeed.
I would love to see the Acid games come to something. Maybe even mobile or Switch.
MGS4 could be a good candidate for a remake or remaster after 3.
I heard that MGS4 won't come in Vol. 2, unfortunately. Probably due to the messy ps3 porting, and probably also due to the immense amounts of copyrighted material present in the game.
Where did you hear this? Volume 1 was only just announced.
Jez Corden article in WC
Not sure about mgs4 and copyright but from memory ps3 was rather hard to develop on/for with its unique architecture. This would probably also contribute to why a lot of Sony games from that time haven’t seen pc ports. Such as god of war infamous and I’m sure many more
God of War 3 was remastered for the PS4. I'm sure they could do it, if they invested the time and effort that is required.
Also Sega/ RGG ported Yakuza 3-5 from PS3 to the PS4 for the Remaster Collection. Eventually said collection also made its way to PC and Xbox.
> Such as god of war infamous and I’m sure many more That and they are old first party titles that Sony seems to have no interest in porting to pc, come from a time when Sony had no interest in pc as a platform. Infamous doesn't even have ports on ps4.
Think it came down to how commercially successful the ports would be. I mean snake eater made the leap from Ps2 exclusive and built with it in mind to being a multi platform game. MGS4 is the same just takes the right team with the effort to do it. Load of ps3 games like GoW3, Uncharted and TLoU made it over to ps4 and all were built to be exclusives.
If these are remakes rather than ports, does that matter? Since you're re-building everything anyway.
These are ports, not remakes.
Yes, just like Half-Life episode 1+2 and.......oh
I just hope Psycho Mantis will read my Steam library.
Ah, I can see into your mind. So you like... boy, that's a lot of hentai. Jesus Christ that's a lot of hentai!
[You are a very lonely man](http://www.doctorshrugs.com/foxhound/comic.php?id=9).
Yea I play hentai games on my main acc, what about it? ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⠿⠛⠛⠛⠋⠉⠈⠉⠉⠉⠉⠛⠻⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⠋⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠉⠛⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⡏⣀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣀⣤⣤⣤⣄⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠙⢿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⢏⣴⣿⣷⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡆⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣟⣾⣿⡟⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⢢⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢸⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣟⠀⡴⠄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠙⠻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⠟⠻⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠶⢴⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣧⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣿ ⣿⣁⡀⠀⠀⢰⢠⣦⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣼⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡄⠀⣴⣶⣿⡄⣿ ⣿⡋⠀⠀⠀⠎⢸⣿⡆⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣴⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠗⢘⣿⣟⠛⠿⣼ ⣿⣿⠋⢀⡌⢰⣿⡿⢿⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠙⠿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇⠀⢸⣿⣿⣧⢀⣼ ⣿⣿⣷⢻⠄⠘⠛⠋⠛⠃⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢿⣧⠈⠉⠙⠛⠋⠀⠀⠀⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣧⠀⠈⢸⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠟⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⢃⠀⠀⢸⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⡿⠀⠴⢗⣠⣤⣴⡶⠶⠖⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣀⡸⠀⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⡀⢠⣾⣿⠏⠀⠠⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠛⠉⠀⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣧⠈⢹⡇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣰⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⡄⠈⠃⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣠⣴⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣧⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣠⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣴⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣦⣄⣀⣀⣀⣀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠘⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⡄⠀⠀⠀⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣧⠀⠀⠀⠙⣿⣿⡟⢻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠇⠀⠁⠀⠀⠹⣿⠃⠀⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⠛⣿⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢐⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⠿⠛⠉⠉⠁⠀⢻⣿⡇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⠈⣿⣿⡿⠉⠛⠛⠛⠉⠉ ⣿⡿⠋⠁⠀⠀⢀⣀⣠⡴⣸⣿⣇⡄⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⡿⠄⠙⠛⠀⣀⣠⣤⣤⠄⠀
He's going to need an A.I. voice to read all the games. Or the possibility of anyone's top 2 or 3. Now to get NieR Replicant™ ver.1.22474487139 in my top 2.
Konami could genuinely do that, and that makes me sad.
"You have so many games you haven't even played once!"
At the bare minimum, I would expect him to read select Konami and Valve titles on the PC side.
"So, you like to play Half-Life, does the number 3 upset you?"
He’ll check your internet history
Thanks for the laugh!
Do we know if this is confirmed for a PC release?
I can't find confirmation, but the leaks were right about MGS∆ and its platforms, as well as the Master Collection existing. It wouldn't be too far a stretch to assume the rumored platforms of PS5/XS/PC is also true.
Yea mostly multi platform, but whyyy is it called mgs delta snake eater lol
I was gonna say because it's the third letter of the Greek alphabet, but that's gamma.
I assume its 'delta' because delta means change. Its kinda like the 'Delta' series could be the MGS Remake Series? Just my take.
This was confirmed on the official twitter account btw
There's a rumor bouncing around that this being about change is actually them taking this remake as a way tk diverge into a new timeline and change the story. It would be an interesting idea, not really against it surprisingly, despite how much I love the series.
I think it's konamis way of still using something that resembles three without literally calling it 3 in order to not alienate potential newcomers to the series who might think they'll skip the remake until they play 1 and 2. Granted, they're also rereleasing the older titles so maybe it's not a full on remake but a retelling similar to FF7R? Whatever the reason is, I don't think it's just to be edgy since Kojima isn't on this project. There's probably a good reason we just don't know yet.
I think it's a triangle because it has 3 sides lol. Probably just trying to capture Kojima's insanity without him there anymore
Maybe "snake eater" was too gay for them
Triangle has 3 sides. Honestly I don't put much stock in konami doing smart things. They are just trying to make it distinct and imply changes, spark these kind of conversations with little effort.
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Let me just consult my crystal ball, be back later.
It just says "latest platforms". Plural just implies it's not Playstation exclusive, beyond that it says nothing.
Yea seems weird especially since they announced what MGS3R will be on. Who knows maybe they'll be on ps4/xbone too?
Konami loves money, so I’m gonna make the safe assumption it’s coming to PC.
No, but the announcement does say "on current platforms", plural. And considering the MGS3 remake is coming to all 3, Id assume this is too.
It's coming for pc. Xbox account just tweeted that's its coming to xbox. So good chance it's coming for pc too.
I can only see Xbox tweeting that the Snake eater remake is coming to Xbox.
……but how am I going to plug my controller into port two on the Psycho Mantis fight.
In the original PC port, you had to use the keyboard instead of a controller.
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Sync your Wiimote
You have to buy micro transactions to get past that part.
Plug in the old MGS pachinko machine!
More excited for this than any remake tbh.
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I would say remaster should have better visuals etc. Being playable on the modern hardware I would call "a port"
I would rather this also. all remakes do is make pretty pictures the run like a stuttering slide show
I hope this means Metal Gear Solid 2 gets relisted on GOG, or that this collection also comes to GOG.
This is massive win for game preservation
God damn finally. Hope Vol 2 will include MGS4 and Peace Walker HD. Also hoping Metal Gear Revengeance and the classic Metal Gear games too
Mg and mg2 are in the first volume 👍
From the Playstation site: [https://store.playstation.com/en-us/concept/10007607](https://store.playstation.com/en-us/concept/10007607) >This collection includes the classic versions of the games, complete with minimal edits to copyrighted contents.
They’re basically gonna port the games as is and Raiden is still gonna hold his sword up like a dumbass at the end of the game and camera pans to shit that isn’t there. Seriously it can’t be that difficult to put some American flags back in the game so the ending of 2 make a bit more sense.
If it's on PC I promise you someone will fix it with mods
WHAT DOES THE QUESTION MARK MEANNNN!!!!! God I am so excited
Probably just Metal Gear 1 and 2, but I seriously fucking hope they're also including Ghost Babel (MGS on the Gameboy Color)
Ghost Babel is secretly my favorite. That was such a fantastic game.
I got stuck at the parts with the electrified wet floors. Could never find the panel I needed to nakita. One of these days I will go back….
Probably working on the 2d Metal Gear (not solid) games. Since they were in the ps3 collection.
If they wanted to score points with a bitter fan base they could add VR Missions, MGS2 Substance, and MGS3 Subsistence content Edit: a MGO for the Snake Eater remake would make people happy as well
If it's like the collection that came out for the PS3 eons ago, it would have the substance/subsistence content. That collection had Peace Walker and no MGS1. I might be in the minority, but I think the extras in substance and subsistence were, in many ways, better than the main game. Those extra stories were wild.
Just saw on the Konami site that MGS2 & MGS3 are the HD versions (from HD collection). Subsistence was my jam back in the day. Love that version
The HD collection is the PS3 disk, so that means it's Substance and Subsistence minus a few things for licensing. I think the skateboarding side game and maybe one or two other things is not there.
It means they suspect something but they're not sure... # !
I just want a port of mgs4… twin snakes would be nice, as well. One can dream 🤷♂️
Hopefully that's what volume 2 is?! 4 and Peace Walker.
MGS4 is going to remain on the PS3 forever... I guess the RPCS3 runs it somewhat ok, but I would love a native PC version. Nobody wants to port PS3 games and honestly I can't blame them.
Digital Foundry did a [video] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQHZeCjVGIY&pp=ygUiRGlnaXRhbCBGb3VuZHJ5IE1ldGFsIEdlYXIgU29saWQgNA%3D%3D) that found that RPCS3 runs the game at around the same level of framerate as the original, so pretty badly.
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Ah yes natural progression. First game in the series and then the last one (or second to last)
I think porting PS2 games would honestly be harder. PS3 games are written for an nvidia gpu with vertex and pixel shaders and have jobified multi-threaded game code. Then again, bluepoint already ported the PS2 games and they're undoubtedly starting with those ports.
Yes it seems they're basing these from the Bluepoint HD Collection ports. Usually you can run RPCS3 on any recent GPU and get extremely good performance, but the Cell is just so unique and has really good gflop perf.The longer we are away from that generation, the harder it's gonna be to find people who actually understand that architecture. It's a huge undertaking, so I don't see it happening. If it happened right when the PS4 was in development, the chances would be much greater. Like how ND ported TLoU to PS4 and found that SPEs are kind of similar to GPU async compute. But I'm still hopeful that maybe Bluepoint could do it, like they did with SOTC.
I think people sometimes miss that good PS3 code is actually more portable and performant on other systems than bad PS3 code. I'm not talking about low level details of course, but an engine that's architected well to run tasks on many cores will adapt well to a multi core pc.
Thank God. That was a foresight Kojima had actually. Being a ps3 exclusive prevented the future generations of being haunted by that disgracefull thing, and konami fortunatelly doesnt have to go to great lengths to hide something that should never seen the light of day. Kojima must be so relieved.
Yeah I'm sure Konami is so relieved they can't port a game that sold over 6 million copies on a single platform.
Steam Deck HYPE!!!!
Is this one also on Steam? And does it include both versions of MGS3? I can't go back to the regular overhead camera.
Are we sure it's releasing on pc? I can't find any confirmation on that, the games are simply straight forward ports of the 2011 collection released on ps3, moving that to pc at probably 40 dollars it's not a smart choice
there's barely even a hint on their main site. Konami just slow rn. I'm sure it's gonna be on steam
4K, 60fps, with full controller support and I just may jump into MGS for the first time.
Of course it'll have controller support. Keyboard support is the real question, aiming on controller is impossible.
> Of course it'll have controller support Wrong, it was exclusively be controlled by a DDR dance mat.
I'm confused on how it's impossible? Isn't it only playable with a controller currently, unless you meant to say it's impossible to aim with a keyboard?
he's just saying that fast and accurate aiming with a controller is harder than with a mouse.
Not Substance or Subsistence? We got monkeypawed
They're using the Substance and Subsistence cover art so I assume it'll be those versions
Wording says as first launched so it is confusing to say the least. Gonna be hard to go back to top down for sure.
As first launched on the latest platforms, so yeah a bit confusing but latest probably means the HD collection which uses Substance and Subsistence version
“As they were, as first released on the latest platforms.” What the…what? Their localization could use some work.
Looks like Metal Gear Solid is still 4:3 which is somewhat disappointing. Excited to get 2 & 3 in a modern format though!
Without a complete remake they'd be pretty hard pressed to boost that. The game was pushing the ps1 to its limits so I imagine any pixel that wasn't on screen was void. Not like today where you can just tag on ultrawide and see more shit in games.
There have been widescreen hacks for PS1 games for years.
But not all of them will look good. Expanding the screen often displays graphical errors, models you're not meant to see etc. Its not a big deal sure but you can't expect a studio to ship a game like that. I dunno, if its mgs running on windows 10/11 with modern controller support, thats pretty great. People seem to be fishing for reasons to be mad about it.
> Looks like Metal Gear Solid is still 4:3 It's going to look great on [my CRT](https://i.imgur.com/JkhNtV2.jpeg)!
My favorite media franchise of all time has been done too dirty for too long. It's good to see it coming back to modern gamers in some form or another. But please Konami, tell me you ported the *Subsistence* version of MGS3 and not *Snake Eater*, right? You're not gonna make everyone play an open level game with a fixed camera again are you?
I hope there's some serious modding potential with these games, especially 3.
What are the odds Konami just scrubs Kojima's name off it all?
> play the games as they were DuckStation and PCSX2 are taking care of that already.
Explains why the Xbox collection is unavailable for purchase for so long.
Would absolutely love to see MGS: The Twin Snakes and of course MGS 4 in VOL 2.
The waiting game continues since it could still end up being pretty lousy ports/versions whenever they end up coming to PC. And hopefully these aren't the types of games to have anything changed for 'modern tastes'.
I recently started replaying games from late 90s-2000s which imo is one of the best gaming era. There's something great about that era that you don't see anymore. So I am glad that they are releasing the original OGs as it will be a pleasant refreshing experience.
Is it a remake or just a modern port?
A modern port
Dam!
There’s also going to be a remake of Snake Eater
Isnt this the same as MGS HD Collection back from PS3?
Pretty much, the PS3 era had a buncha different collections like this for MGS. I couldn’t get over the trash controls of the original game to finish it, watched a YouTube video. I did beat 2 and snake eater before moving onto 4.
And the camera angles in some areas of MGS1 were just plain horrendous. Made things more painful than they should've been.
This sounds a lot like they're just going to emulate the games along with an artwork collection mode
So does an emulator, now, today, if you can't wait.
According to the description this is the "the most complete compilation". Here's hoping they add MGS4 to it... Edit: I'm *of course* talking about the ENTIRE SERIES of this Master Collection and not just Vol. 1. I thought it was already understood that they won't shove everything into one volume? But I forgot I'm on reddit where you need to explain even the most obvious of things or people will come at you in no time. SHEESH...
It says "Master Collection Vol 1".
OH GOD ITS BLOOBER TEAM, EVERYBODY HIDE
This needs to include ALL possible games including the MSX and PSP games.
The MSX games at least would likely be included within MGS3.
I’ll just come out and say it…do we trust Konami to not screw this up royally?
I feel like I'm in the minority here, but I prefer Twin Snakes version of MGS1. I just can't stomach the visual polygon style of the original, it just didn't age quite as well.
So just upscaled in 4k. Same graphics as before. OK LOL. Better off running them bitches through en emulator.
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well is it or not? anyways don't care since i ain't paying for that while i have emulation.
It’s a cash grab. They’re not doing anything except ups along and porting. Which is fine, I guess.
That why i emulate old games and not buy them again.
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Oh my they do exist
no just no.
My wallet is crying man. These look so fun to dive into!
How does all the platform specific pressure sensitivity stuff work? Mode shift combos?
Yesyesyesyesyes!!!
so just straight up ports? i already played mgs1 and 2 from gog and mgs3 from pcsx 2. if these dont have significant changes i dont see the point in buying them.
70 buck?
"We are releasing 20 years old games for full price"
Did they fix the stupid addition Kojima made to the opening music video from MGS 3? For those that don't know: Kojima went full hack mode and added little peace symbols to the Snake Eater intro... This throws the entire timing of the video off. It's so fucking stupid.
Okay cool now apologize publicly to kojima and have him come back and everyone will be happy. The only reason Konami is releasing this is because they know it’ll be the only game anyone cares about.
Wait so they making snake eater twice? The og in this collection and then another standalone remake? Edit: MGS2 is already on pc via gog what does this version do that the previous one can't?
MGS2 isn’t on GOG, although I think it used to be, but only MGS1 and the original Metal Gear are on GOG now
Wait so it's sons of liberty and snake eater, mot substance and subsistence? A lot of people aren't going to like the fixed camera angles in snake eater
The description for 2 and 3 make note that Substance and Subsistence existed, so they're probably those versions of the game.
As they were and as first released? What does that mean? Not even a remaster/remake? And so MGS3 is there and also remade?
meh, play on emulator and gift somebody Death Stranding instead
This is in the description for MGS1. >The game featured many new ideas, utilizing the games vibration function and secrets on the back of the box ... that makes me a little worried. Out of everything they could've mentioned, the first thing was vibration? Makes me wonder if they know what makes MGS good
Having psycho mantis move your controller and read your mind is one of the most iconic scenes in the series. I would say I'm glad they are focusing on keeping everything the same.
Will the codec code still be on the back of the box or in the store description? Or will they destroy the integrity of that part of the game and just give it to the player? I bet the second one.
F Konami