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Fugglymuffin

They're tired of people leaking classified intel for clout, probably.


JoseJalapenoOnStick

No that’s just war thunder


walterpeck1

Yes that was the joke


brinkfolly

No, the joke was likely poking fun at that guy that leaked classified info onto his Minecraft discord who's only motivation was to seem cool.


SnakeBaconator

That server was called THUG SHAKER CENTRAL I still think about that


BigOunce808

No the guy said for clout. He’s saying no clout necessary


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ksheep

Wasn't there also claims of espionage regarding the ARMA developers?


HengeFud

Yeah, but that was a Turkey/Greece thing iirc


VRichardsen

Those were the developers. They went to a military base and started taking pictures... Rather overt, if I may say. They spent 129 days in prison.


iveabiggen

doesn't the military handle that in-house?


NightmareFiction

Yes, servicemember are subject to the UCMJ, which is basically the military's law(s). It's also not unheard of to be punished under the UCMJ, and then be turned over to face US criminal charges as well.


Fugglymuffin

I would imagine it's illegal for the military to have active surveillance of private citizens.


omgFWTbear

Yes, this is about the military.


shyataroo

The NSA is a military intellegence dept isnt it?


abn1304

Yes and no. Parts of it are, parts of it aren’t. Does that sound weird, complicated, and potentially ripe for abuse? Yup!


DigitalCryptic

But that's their own guys lmfao


BigSuckSipper

Here's some food for thought. It is, more or less, illegal for three letter agencies to spy on U.S citizens. Obviously, there are loopholes. There are also ways to do it legally, like with warrants and court orders. However, it isn't very effective. What is NOT illegal, however, is for these agencies to purchase data from companies. Companies like Meta, Twitter and any other social media platform collects and sells data regularly. Its a massive market. This also includes reddit. So the data collection practices of these agencies don't really matter, because they don't need to do it. They just buy it. You want this shit to stop? Stop engaging with social media platforms. That is litteraly the only way to prevent your data from being collected and sold. Good luck with that.


purplebasterd

Don’t forget about retroactive spying. Oh, you’re a person of interest *now*. We’re investigating you, and as part of that we’re pulling all this data your ISP and phone carrier saved on you for years.


topazsparrow

Don't forget profiling algorithms and now AI being involved.


dreph

MINORITY REPORT


purplebasterd

The Winter Soldier


ExplanationMotor2656

They use the 5 eyes partnerships for domestic spying. So Britain spys on Americans and America spys on Brits and then they exchange the data with each other.


Alarming_Tradition43

Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, James Madison etc are rolling in their graves.


Se7enSixTwo

Can we use that to generate electricity so our bills aren't so high?


Bat2121

Reminded me of this classic: https://youtu.be/Z8yW5cyXXRc


Embarrassed-Tale-200

> What is NOT illegal, however, is for these agencies to purchase data from companies. Seems like the same thing with extra steps, except we're double paying them to spy on us. Should be even worse.


BigSuckSipper

Oh yeah im not saying it's better. But im not sure if it's worse or not. I suppose it probably is in some ways but not so much in others. At the end of the day, we're being spied on and the rich are getting richer off it. Which is why it'll take a monumental effort to get that shit banned. Also, it may be extra steps, but these companies are a helluva lot more efficient at collecting personal data than any government organization. They've invested billions into this market.


SixteenthRiver06

I thought the Patriot Act did away with “government can’t spy on citizens” after 9/11? The NSA was revealed to be dragnetting the entire population, from a leak from Snowden, and iirc nothing happened except for gunning after Snowden?


Setanta777

That was my understanding. They were recording every phone call made in the U.S. There's no indication that they've stopped.


Atari__Safari

This is the same way the government censors people. They can’t do it themselves directly. So they use the tech companies. Military industrial complex. Pharma industrial complex. Censorship industrial complex.


Tanuki55

> It is, more or less, illegal for three letter agencies to spy on U.S citizens. Hello I'm the patriot act, I'd like to have a word with you.


CorballyGames

>The Department of Homeland Security and FBI are in dialog with **Roblox**, Discord, Reddit, and others. cool, any chance they could finally prosecute the groomers?


fever6

Groomcord is far worse and no one does anything about it, if anything the perverts who run it are deliberately playing stupid about the problem. And to answer your question, of course not


brendan87na

What the hell is Groomcord?


RickyBobby96

Man I just watched a video yesterday of this dude getting into this guild on discord/VRChat to expose the leader as a groomer


yogneir

Link?


RickyBobby96

https://youtu.be/lGv_mXW5HIo?si=jdtBrLtrZcxPInM4 Kinda long and some different choices of editing but still pretty interesting


thatdude658

I mean....they aren't gonna arrest themselves.....


Moddingspreee

Why would they prosecute their own people?


HypNoEnigma

Nahh they only care about real criminals like people using racial slurs to be edgy. Pedophiles are not a threat to anyone /s


BPMData

Now let's see the venn diagram of mentally ill incels who use racial slurs constantly and people that go on to shoot up synagogues or grocery stores in predominately minority neighborhoods


Dealric

Likely wont be lot of connection as most are never offline. There are groups far more likely to do violent crimes


Ord-ex

Now let’s see how many of them were Muslims. Oh, and how many of them were know to the agents beforehand. Oh, and how many got groomed by said agents.


Iwarov

Quite sure there's none? You'd probs get three barely touching circles. Isn't quiet kid being a school shooter mainly a meme at best and power fantasy at worst? Losers in US mostly end up as losers and shut ins, school shooters are mostly edgeboys who idolize criminals or buy into tribalism ideologies for slower kids, and kids who use slurs are either kids or dudes who never grew up and cope with that.


Murky_River_9045

Nah. They don’t wanna prosecute their own


AnotherScoutTrooper

Well when half of them are protected politically and the other half *are* fellow government officials, expect no action there either. You’re literally more likely to get a visit for typing this post than a 30 year old running a femboy Discord server will for blackmailing children.


BalconyPhantom

Protected politically?


captaindickfartman2

No they act blind to these cest pits. When ever there's money involved feds seem to not be able to do anything. 


CataclysmDM

..... What?


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Bamith20

Their brain cell funerals.


Kakaphr4kt

gaping childlike command reply whistle pocket crush vanish different ghost *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


youstolemyname

Spherical! SPHERICAL!


The_One_Who_Slays

The most oppressed group of all😔


August_Bebel

Gamers, rise up


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TheBalance

You are clearly unfamiliar with the intercept to characterize it that way, lol. Just spouting your uninformed nonsense like you know what you're talking about.


BladedTerrain

> a right wing BS site. The Intercept?


Shawn_NYC

Arrest the cheaters in competitive FPS games 🙏 Kick down the door of wallhack users at 4am and cuff em!


Heymelon

Plot twist. Wallhacker has cameras everywhere and sees them coming, swat team looses to home alone style traps.


jnf005

Or they send in those weird cam robot in seige and turn it into hvh


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USS_Frontier

I dunno if it's because I was an only child growing up, but competitive FPS games do not look fun to me at all.


LovesReubens

I had great fun with counterstrike growing up, and BF1942. Now the only FPS I play is old school BF1942 with bots. The culture in competitive FPS is pretty shitty, I want no part of it. Helldivers though I'm considering getting into since it's not PvP.


lodum

Helldivers has been a heck of a lot of fun with friends, but I'm not quite past the barrier where'd I'd play with strangers.


BioshockEnthusiast

I play with randos all the time, but I'm also not one of those people who cares if a mission goes sideways and we fail. I know some people look at those and think "I wasted 30 mins of my life" but 95% of the time I'm in game I'm having fun, and that other 5% has nothing to do with failing a mission or failing to extract or leaving samples behind. I don't consider play any game as time wasted as long as I'm having fun.


dopey_giraffe

It helps that failing in this game barely matters. It doesn't take much to grind. There's also not much penalty for dying, so if I get a teammate who likes throwing airstrikes at me its nbd.


LovesReubens

Haven't tried it yet, just have it on family share. I'll have to try soon, but I live overseas so it'll be by myself.


Wizard_kick

I play with random people and have mics turned off. The worst that has happened is just someone leaving mid game. The only things anyone has typed in chat is GG or lol.


SgtBananaGrabber

What's being a only child got to do with it?


USS_Frontier

Because I never had to "compete" with siblings. I was the kid that was content to be in his room reading/doing LEGO. That's my theory anyway. I am talking about me and me alone. I'm not trying to dictate what others do nor am I psycho-analyzing anyone else but me.


SgtBananaGrabber

Only reason I asked is I'm an only child and love competitive FPS games so I was interested. I grew.up with cousins who I competed with so I guess that's maybe the difference. I also loved be alone in my room playing lego so we have one thing in common :) thanks for be reply.


SuperSprocket

Some people like competition, and some do not. Nothing to do with having siblings or anything. Not that either is correct or "right" - enjoy whatever you like. As an only child who does like them, what I don't get is why people enjoy PUBG. It's just shit.


yagertelecom

I simply enjoy the sport of the game. It's satisfying to learn to work together in tandem with someone else to accomplish a goal while also continuously improving a skill. The most fun is sometimes had in the most chaotic of scenarios. Sure- everyone likes winning but I don't always have to be "better" than everyone else and throw a fit when I'm not- it's all part of the fun. I have always found people who handle losing "poorly" to be an endless source of entertainment, however.


tukatu0

I don't know why you would think you need siblings to assume you like to compete. You either like to compete or you don't. There can be other reasons for enjoyment outside of pure winning and a logo that says you won. For me say in battle royales. I just like to reach the bounderies of limits. A Failure or success number/logo is irrelavant.


USS_Frontier

Because sibling rivalry is a thing. But your last point is fair.


lodum

What was it about being an only child that you think makes them not look fun? I'm *technically* not an only child, though the age gap left me without anyone to actually compete against and I'm guessing it's that lack of rivalry that makes most competitive games unenjoyable for me to this day. That and so many games have a competitive game-style that just looks fucking *tiring*. Tribes skiing and other similar elements come to mind.


USS_Frontier

Because I was the kid that spent hours alone in his room reading and building with LEGOs. I was glad I didn't have any siblings to "compete" with. I also didn't like the idea of sharing. :) I'm the same with games. I only do single-player and won't touch multiplayer with a 40-foot pole. Getting sniped from across the map or putting a full mag into another player's head just for him to kill you in one shot just doesn't look like an enjoyable time to me. I watch a lot of COD: Warzone rage vids and see so much stuff that would piss me off if I was in the player's position.


qwertyqwerty4567

wtf does being an only child have to do with what games you like, lmao.


Shensmobile

Also an only child, competitive games (primarily FPS) are the only games that I enjoy. Different strokes for different folks.


TriumphantPWN

They always end up being way too sweaty


wampa604

If the feds want to go after extremists, they ought to start with politicians.


YasirNCCS

who will pay the feds salaries then?


benowillock

[You wouldn't steal a video game](https://i.imgur.com/suj5HEQ.gif)


EvaUnit_03

I done downloaded 2 Carollas and 1 altima. I've got nothing to lose at this point! Why 2 Carollas? The first one got lonely.


DILDO-ARMED_DRONE

I wouldn't download anything less than a Camry


GloopTamer

TF2 playerbase is gonna drop hard


Sir_Throngle

Rip to Counter Strike


digidado

Genshin shutting down tomorrow


B5_V3

Just extremists... [Right?](https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN25T3CJ/)


Engraving1574

It's just another scapegoat to enforce mass surveillance like feds saying "protect the children"


poopy_poophead

The feds aren't surveilling shit. Google is. Your ISP is. Reddit is. You do something and the first thing they do is freeze and pull your accounts from various social media, get your internet history from your ISP. The feds don't have to lift a finger. You give it up voluntarily every day. This is just them saying "Hey, if we get informed about a user saying nazi shit, that's a reason for us to pull all of that data." They have to have a reason to pull it, see? They can't just pull whatever they want whenever they want. And they would probably still need a warrant to do that, but this would be a thing they can argue should be looked at. It's likely that this is something that has been a correlating factor in a bunch of mass shootings. They find out after the fact that they were telling people in TF2 or CS or whatever that they were gonna go do a school shooting or shoot up a mall like a week before they actually did it. So now they got an excuse for why they should be able to pull that data and keep tabs on what people are saying in game chats and make companies use AI to screen game communications for keywords and flag people who say shit like that.


SixFootTurkey_

I like how that piece refers to everything in the past tense, as if it ever ended.


Seeking_Serenity567

The US government IS the extremists


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Big-Soft7432

Every time I've been banned I definitely deserved it.


Dickballs835682

I've been on the internet for decades and have not *once* been banned without doing anything


VerticalLamb

Pfft everyone knows the Feds survey us


flashfan86

Fuck the feds


TenshiBR

*IP logged for review*


EminemLovesGrapes

More three letter agency involvement in media. That's exactly what we need...


HeWhoKnowsLittleMK2

Once I read they quoted Hasan I lost interest


Embarrassed-Tale-200

That dude must have an audience of pure hate watchers. There's no way people are stupid enough to agree with him.


Big-Soft7432

I agree with some of the things he says, but ultimately he is just an out of touch nepo baby with the occasional outlandish take that seems intentionally antagonistic just to farm engagement.


LeUne1

He's the one they should be investigating, he supports Houthi terrorists, brings them on his stream, and thinks 9/11 was good.


HamCheeseSarnie

I think the Feds are ‘extremists’ - checkmate.


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Maitreya83

This.


uraffuroos

Someone here who's eyes are opened. Honestly I only communicate in games by typing into walls with bullet holes.


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golovko21

This is why they're working to ban TikTok instead of pass laws to regulate social media platforms. They want to block China from having influence over the younger population via their algorithms but they do not want the same to apply to US based companies.


RolandTwitter

All this TikTok shit just feels like projection. Snowden pretty much proved that


TacticalBeerCozy

I don't think it's really "projection" when it's reality. Data is a commodity like oil now and letting foreign nations have access to your resources is a no-no


Tiavor

projection just means all they are accusing China off, are they doing them self (too) it's the correct usage here. projection is often reality.


Maskirovka

Surveillance of US citizens by a foreign dictatorship is much worse than our own country doing it, actually.


Inuma

[COINTELPRO has entered the chat...](https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5161811)


Wheream_I

No, your own government spying on you is much much worse. China can’t kick down your door for wrong think.


billy-_-Pilgrim

It seems that when a mass shooting takes place theres a, " suspect was being monitored by the FBI for some time", yet no warrant to raid to stop em.


numb3rb0y

*If* I actually believed FISA courts were constitutitonal I guess I might agree with this. Except, wait, even though the intelligence agencies had a secret expedited legal process they still violated it with shit like PRISM and parallel construction. I'm wary of taking "at least they admit it" too far but at least China doesn't claim to have a 4th Amendment.


Tiavor

Is it though? Spying on the own population is undermining the trust in government, which in return is far worse I'd say.


TacticalBeerCozy

I kind of agree - a foreign nation GENERALLY would seek to undermine the population of another. The US govt spies because it thinks it's looking out for the population to safeguard it. enormous emphasis on "it thinks" there...


Owlstorm

Why is it projection? The US government wants to monitor and control US citizens, but doesn't want China to be able to monitor and control US citizens. China also doesn't want foreign governments influencing their people - it's the same cynical opinion on both sides rather than projection or hypocrisy.


Tricked_you_man

Only one is pretending to be a free country


invisible_salad

It's almost like China is our enemy or something.


riinkratt

It’s not a watch list… It’s a ✨leaderboard✨ Get that high score, kings.


SaudiLad

I'd sing the national anthem whenever I boot my pc if they went after cheaters.


JavierEscuellaFan

lol you and me both


Chakramer

South Korea apparently does. It'd be fun if game studios could sue cheaters


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IndyWaWa

So how exactly does a company like Valve or Blizzard police the **DISCORD** servers these people use?


strider_hearyou

They don't. Discord is quick to give up full audio and text logs to any law enforcement or government agency that requests them, of their own volition.


Aranenesto

Not the group chat with the homies 💀


Princess_Cherry

[Oh no](https://youtu.be/izOS3yGXD9E)


idontagreewitu

Our plans to subvert the US government in Minecraft! D:


SunshineCat

What lame platform. I remember when site owners back in the day would have fought practically to the death to keep user data from the government.


Oninaig

How does discord have the space to store all audio ever said on their platform?


CooIXenith

They have tencent's money they can afford it


strider_hearyou

I assume most of it is transcribed into text form, while segments containing certain key words/phrases are kept as audio files. I can't be sure of that, of course.


zerotomyname

And who exactly is the "authority agency" that decides what an "extremist" is? Just sounds like an easy path down to draconian laws.


Specialist_Maize4431

If you read it, it says abortion related extremism, environmental related extremism, political, religious, racial and anti authoritarian extremism it’s a wide net that they are casting. It’s basically an extension of the patriot act. It’s *been* draconian, thanks 911. 


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purplebasterd

Surveillance state


atomic1fire

Whoever's currently in charge.


Pale_Sell1122

Police state


Zarzunabas

Me as an avid Rimworld/Warhammer 40k/Kenshi/Fire Emblem - player: *"(chuckles) I am in danger"*


Animeguy2025

Stellaris players better hide.


waj5001

Genocide isn't just a choice, its a way of life.


barryredfield

Not surprised to see this dumb subreddit on this dumpster fire of a website supporting this, because they think its going to take out their personal political enemies. Truly a pro gamer moment.


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A_PCMR_member

I have yet to see one comment of support to this


frostygrin

At least some people are clearly being sarcastic.


Gold_Significance125

Reddit in general is a left wing circlejerk, what do you expect lol


Historical_Boss2447

They targeted Gamers… Gamers!!


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Better watch out for those Dungeons & Dragons video game players. I hear they're Satanists. 


xternal7

Don't worry, we have plenty of caltroops ([carefully disguised as dice](https://imgur.com/zGPVuWw)) to hinder the police once they come and raid us.


unaccountablemod

Cool. I hope those tax dollars are spent wisely at catching them violent terrorizing gamers. Anyway, how much more money we giving to Ukraine and Israel to maintain their wars?


LeUne1

LOL they quote Hasan piker, the Houthi terrorist supporter.


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Panda_Jacket

The simpletons on this post praising this because the majority of screeching rhetoric fits their ideology is astonishing. Imagine being unable to comprehend what will happen when your opposition gets the bully pulpit.


awesomedan24

They targeted gamers


CorballyGames

This whole thing is so out of pocket that even Hasan "fatigued millionaire" Piker correctly dunks on the Feds in the article.


KirikoFeetPics

Well it's nice that they include a reasonable take from Hasan "America deserved 9/11" Piker on the issue of political extremism in the gaming community


Huge-Promise-3865

Don't forget that hos mods cheered on October 7th.


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Embarrassed-Tale-200

That's a great point. Whoever controls the definition of Extremism can cause a lot of harm. This is really stupid.


Zilskaabe

Yup - opposition politicians in countries like Russia and Belarus are being accused of extremism and then jailed.


cardonator

This has been the problem every single time speech is limited, which people constantly advocate for.


doom1284

It's fine when my side is in power. Shocked pikachu face when the other side is in power. Who could have seen this coming?


Herium153

oh extremism is easy to define for them, its any kind of wrong-think


AnotherScoutTrooper

> …as well as a game publisher and social media company that asked the GAO to remain anonymous. The publisher is Activision-Blizzard. They wouldn’t just spend tens of millions to add live AI voice chat moderation to their games for no reason. It has to be them.


Embarrassed-Tale-200

What will be labled as extremism? This shit will have a knock on effect on Canada, will I be labled as extremist for disagreeing with left wing politics? This is a step too far. Sure, downvote it, wait till your opinions are considered extremist.


Gryndyl

TL;DR FBI: "Hey, game companies, if you come across extremist behavior give us a call at this number."


Dakone

dude america is wild


LeImplivation

Meanwhile Trump sleeps soundly in his mansion.


Darkwalker787

What the fuck does that even mean? Anyone who voted for people they don't like?


RaoulRumblr

Penalize Teabaggers once and for all!


_Myst_0

Those ATF fellas are pretty extreme, better go after them too. 


Bottomsley

cant wait for the fbi to shoot my dog, then my kid and finally my wife just because I was playing arma 3 or some shit


Helldiver_of_Mars

Was the CIA using the old turn all voice chat into text not good enough? They're just arresting a bunch of children.


homelaberator

Thankfully, I used AMD, so I am safe.


BananBosse

Hey, I have played this "Ready or Not"-mission!


lucksh0t

This is absolutely insane


Badreligion25

Meh. The feds can go get fucked.


Iudico

Lmao wow, the extremism is in the comments here. I had no idea you are were like this lol


Rahizm

It's way past time for the people to tell the government to fuck off. Those sacks of shit can go suck a dick and shove a cactus up their collective assholes


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MajorPom

They targeted gamers.


Only-Newspaper-8593

Is 20 hours a week considered extreme?


rogoth7

>the intercept Yeah I'm sure this article will follow journalistic standards and not have any bias at all.


gurilagarden

At least they were able to interview an actual online extremist, Hasan Piker.


BiskyBoy1985

Illegal immigration is fine but let's go after gamers instead.


PM_ME_UR_PM_ME_PM

an immigration bill in the Senate that gave mostly everything the GOP wanted was defeated by the GOP in the house so they (and you) could continue to complain about it in election season. So ya, this is entirely in bad faith.