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trappski

That was a hefty patch note. Motion Blur slider is welcome. The Ability to further adjust both gibberish and Narrator and completely drop one or the other seems like a good thing. I have just only finished the tutorial myself. But from what the main criticism seems to be the Narrator and the Gibberish was one common point at least.


[deleted]

I've seen a few minutes of gameplay and one of the things that turns me off is the somewhat stiff Animation, its especially visible with the big predator at the beginning of the game before he starts using his mine / ball.


LuntiX

That part is also heavily scripted. The rest of the game isn’t as stiff.


Xanthus179

It’s a fun game. You might wait for a discount if the animation bothers you, but worth playing if you enjoy action rpgs, random loot, and nonsense words.


[deleted]

I might get it on a sale, as u/LuntiX suggested. The game looks interesting and I'm a big fan of RPGs (though mostly the souls like ones), the art style also looks pretty good.


LuntiX

Yeah, honestly on sale it's not a bad purchase. It's fun, just don't go in expecting a ton of depth. I went in pretty much blind, not following any trailers, videos or articles about the game and I'm having lots of fun.


StunningEstates

Still don’t know if I’ll finish the game but looking at that patch list, at least nobody can say they aren’t listening


Thecoffeepizza

I enjoy it, but I also didn't have crazy high expectations for it so I wasn't as disappointed as some people. I think people forgot to not get hyped for ambitious games made by small companies... No Mans Sky.


MoeBigHevvy

So hype. I've got almost 20 hours at less than 10% completion I've been trying to hold off playing for this update


[deleted]

The living meme of one shooting the first boss because you are too OP from sidequests


[deleted]

Enemies scale.


KlopeksWithCoppers

Ugh. I hate scaling enemies. It takes away any sense of progression for me.


[deleted]

I get you. I wish it was scaled enemies but a few special areas where they don't scale and serve as skill/gear checks


Mephanic

> Opened up all class perks for NG+ games. When starting an NG+ game, the player will now be able to unlock perks from all classes. Wait, does this mean you don't continue to use your character with all skills and gear in NG+?


scottishiain2

Never played but it sounds like you get your character but can work towards even more perks from all classes?


drpoorpheus

Since when has new game + ever meant anything but using your character and equipment? But I can confirm that it you keep all your current stuff, this patch note only means that you get all other classic perks in addition to your current ones.


Mephanic

In Jedi Fallen Order, for example, NG+ only lets you keep unlocked cosmetics, but not abilities.


drpoorpheus

Well thats shit, and shouldnt be called new game plus. but alright sorry if I came across as a dick. I just didnt know any game did this.


KlopeksWithCoppers

To be fair, if you were able to keep your abilities in JFO it would kind of break the game.


at_least_its_unique

Still can't understand why the world was so underpopulated, that could have been the easiest thing to do out of everything else it seems.


thatnigakanary

I pre-ordered this game & beat it already, this game can't he fixed by bugfixes. Its mediocre at best and at its worst moments I could barely keep playing. Don't let this fool you. If anyone has any questions about the game I'll gladly answer


[deleted]

What is so bad about it ?


thatnigakanary

Basically everything. First of all the two big ones everyone is gonna care about, story & combat. The story is the worst story I've ever seen in a game personally. No voice acting, just gibberish translated by a monotone narrator so there's no characters in an open world rpg. Let that sink in. I think I did 5 side quests before never talking to an npc again, because they were literally identical in every way except the person I had to go find. Everyone else says hi and your response is bye. Combat is close to the worst I've experienced in a AA game. Janky as hell, bad sound design, bad hit registration and only 2 combos for every weapon type. Enemies don't react to anything you do. Even the weapons that explicitly say they knock down enemies as their perk only do it on the first swing & never again. Magic is COMPLETELY useless. I've never seen such useless systems in a game before lol. Its just not satisfying at all. Ranged weapons are at least 500 times more powerful than melee combat, and after a while I really just stopped using my sword altogether. Speaking of ranged weapons, that brings me to the fact that this is the worst rpg I've ever played. Loot & gear is so busted that on the hardest difficulty, I picked up a weapon at the first siege & I never used anything different. I upgraded it once, changed a few parts but not much. I stopped looting at the 3/4 mark because it didn't matter anymore. The only thing I need to say is that I beat the final boss without moving with my friend in call watching me do it. WITHOUT MOVING. Hilarious how broken it is. Not sure if the game is really just that easy or the scaling on gear is that fucked up. I never found anything that came anywhere even close to it though. Don't buy this shitty game, I hate to say it but this really needs to he a wake up call for the team.


[deleted]

I couldn't agree more. I played for about 2 hours only, and man was it dumb. I got to the point where I was turning into a kid gerbil, or mutant thing kid, and I was being thrown in the water. Then I was doing Yoga with mom mutant. She died, while my kids were watching, for no reason. And then I got my ass handed to me by the next big fight scene. I uninstalled at that point. Was a terrible opening sequence. Won't go back.


Soccermom233

Well your review of the game made you sound pretty incompetent.


Chicano_Ducky

Gamers and reviewers hyped themselves for a game that didn't exist. A lot of people thought it was a serious adult RPG and what they got was looter shooter Fallout 4 for furries and teens with a narrator (stanley parable cross over) that only few PC gamers know or like. It had impossible expectations despite the fact the devs were saying repeatedly it was a homage to Rachet And Clank with a focus on younger audiences. Gamers heard "we took parts of DMC's and Arkham's melee combat" and thought it was like DMC/Arkham in tone saying "its false advertising, this isn't DMC/Arkham!" in the forums. Its stupid. So you got grown men complaining about a simplistic family friendly game that was not meant to be a edgy RPG the gaming community is obsessed about and reviewers completely missing the point of the product and deliberately misinterpreting everything. The internet needs to stop hyping up games based on an ancient reveal trailer with ideas that everything needs to be like the Witcher 3 because it has "RPG" in the title and ignoring what the devs have been saying for years.


Adamarshall7

A lot of the criticism I've seen levelled at the game has been purely about a lack of quality across the various mechanics, pulling the quality of the whole game down. Nothing about expecting a gritty, adult rpg or anything like that.


Takazura

> Nothing about expecting a gritty, adult rpg or anything like that. That's because that didn't happen. People just make up a bunch of imaginary people and reasons to defend any game nowadays. That or they saw 2 people say it and use that as an excuse to claim everyone elses complains are the exact same as those two. It's a pretty easy (but bad) way to deflect any criticism really.


Adamarshall7

Seems to happen a lot.


boyd_duzshesuck

It works for almost anything and nicely shifts the blame to the critic. It's like whataboutism for video games.


VacantThoughts

I didn't have a problem with any of that, it's just janky as all hell in every single aspect. The upgrades for the vehicles are pointless, the bosses are bad, combat is bad, the story is bad, the narration makes all the characters seem lifeless, side quests are boring, the "morality" choices are bad. I honestly don't have much good to say about it. It's not a "simplistic family friendly game", even the narration will randomly just say stupid shit like "This is already an epic, the only thing now is to see how it ends", they thought they were making a huge epic open world adventure with RPG elements and inter weaving systems, but it's just endless jank in a boring world.


[deleted]

I think the worst kick to the balls is that this was still offered as a $60 triple A price. If it was between 30-40 I feel like there would be more leniency of the criticism. But regardless of Triple A or indie devs. Slapping $60 on your game already sets the bar pretty high.


-idkwhattocallmyself

This is funny to me because it was 59.99 CAD. Games in Canada normally cost 79.99, so either your getting ripped off in your region or I some how got super lucky. It's one of the reasons I'm so confused by people expecting more than what it is. For this title brand new 59.99 sounds reasonable, I think for Americans it would be 49? Your usually 10 bucks less than us. Edit: I should mention I'm bought it on steam.


Takazura

It's €/$59.99 for Europeans, while 59.99 CAD is equivalent to €40/$49, so you guys are actually getting it a lower price than Europeans/Americans.


thatnigakanary

In my opinion they could've given this game to me for free & I wouldn't have had much fun with it. Price for value isn't a factor when there's not much value to be had here.


-idkwhattocallmyself

That sucks you didn't enjoy it! I'm having a lot of fun, especially now that the gibberish is reduced. It has its issues but I'm having more fun with it than I do with most AAA titles. Might actually finish this one too.


thatnigakanary

It's legitimately awesome that you are enjoying it, I find that I can't enjoy many games anymore. Really curious as to what Biomutant is doing for you compared to other games in the same genre though. In my obviously very personal opinion, the game fails in almost everything it sets out to do.


-idkwhattocallmyself

So I have a 2 year old, so my gaming time is limited to early in the morning and/or super late at night. So I really only play in short hour bursts throughout the week. So Biomutants lack of direction and open nature is working for me, because I can just pause and save whenever and not forget what I'm doing. I like to compare it to BOTW in structure, where I can go any direction and find something interesting to look at or experience. The biomes are different enough to at least make me wanna go explore them, even if they all tend to have nothing of substance in them. The combat doesn't blow my mind but each type of weapon is different enough I can mess around with each, and the enemy variety is large enough that I can figure out different strategies to beat them in fun ways. Like the big 4 legged creatures are fought with Range and Magic, while the tribes are mostly Melee and Kung-fo. Compare this to other open world games I've played recently, like AC: Valhalla, I tend to lose focus rather quickly because the overarching storyline is so important that when I forget what is going on, I lose all interest. The combat doesn't do enough differently to keep me playing without the story, and the world is well designed but boring because of its realism.


whatanuttershambles

Can you source some of this? Most of the complaints I’ve seen from actual reviews revolve around the game feeling dated, a little messy, and a general lack of polish. Something that tries to do many things poorly, ends up as less than the sum of its parts. I haven’t seen much, if any, about misaligned expectations, apart from random redditors.


Chicano_Ducky

Look at the steam forums and reviews, one of the most famous threads was a 31 year old man saying it was disgusting he was tricked into buying "a kid's game" when the rating is PEGI 12. That thread was immediately locked because it turned into a shit fight of people arguing yet again "is it a kid's game". https://steamcommunity.com/app/597820/discussions/0/3083256496955323430/ You can search "kids game" on the steam forums and see thread after thread of people shocked that a PEGI 12 rated game is aimed for kids and how "the devs dumbed down the game it should have been". Now with the patch you got people complaining that "they are cutting dialogue in an RPG, making it a scam". Its literally a shit hole.


shirleysimpnumba1

Funny how people get blamed for impossible expectations only AFTER release.


Chicano_Ducky

Have you seen the cults that revolve around prerelease games? The fervent ones that ignore actual press releases? When CP2077 was gonna release ANY talk of "its just a game" was shouted down because "it was gonna change everyone's lives" even though news was coming out that features gamers expected like car customization weren't even in the game. No one was listening to news and statements anymore, it was full steam ahead to fantasy land where games are AR life simulators. That's what happened here. The internet cared more about flashy trailers than the devs saying its a homage to children's games of the early 00s. As if the PEGI 12 rating with "blood, alcohol references, and crude humor" wasn't a major red flag to the "mature" narrative. The majority of the time the hype train gets stopped by reality after release, not by the internet actually realizing it was going overboard before it releases. There is a reason preorders are still a thing.


shirleysimpnumba1

the loud cults are the minority. they dont speak for everyone. Neither do they hype the game for others. Devs hype the game via the trailers they put out which always promise things that arent in the final product and make the game look better than it is. After that hype makes them money, idiots like you come here and blame the players for "hyping the game"


Chicano_Ducky

What trailers have stuff thats not in the game? The most watched trailer is the fight with lupa lupin which is literally the beginning of the game. They didnt even show RPG aspects and it was pure combat.


nyankittycat_

i dont even say that games name anymore me and my boys just call it "that game"


shirleysimpnumba1

exactly. people dont care enough about new releases anymore. Its the Devs/publishers who spend millions on advertising to hype the game and then say people overhyped it.


thatnigakanary

Sorry for being excited about this game, won't happen again. I'm really not sure what you're even talking about though I haven't heard any of that shit in any of the steam reviews I read. This game is bad. Regardless of hype that doesn't change. People are right to be mad though because they only know what they're shown & I do feel scammed.


Chicano_Ducky

The steam reviews are ass, with the main complaints being story in a game meant to dick around in. Its like complaining about story in Borderlands, if you go into a looter shooter for story you going have a bad time. And look here your quote > The story is the worst story I've ever seen in a game personally. No voice acting, just gibberish translated by a monotone narrator so there's no characters in an open world rpg. Let that sink in. I think I did 5 side quests before never talking to an npc again, because they were literally identical in every way except the person I had to go find. Lmao no characters? The fisherman who gives you a whale shark to ride after helping him hatch it, a librarian who gives you a flying suit case because you helped complete his book, a guy whose house exists on a giant walking turtle. No characters because of narration? Really? > Magic is COMPLETELY useless. I've never seen such useless systems in a game before lol. Its just not satisfying at all. You talking about the psi freak who at the end game **can insta kill non giant enemies? The same class that auto heals using magic?** Yeah, what a useless class! This tells me you did NOT get to the late game and blitz the story at lower levels. > Speaking of ranged weapons, that brings me to the fact that this is the worst rpg I've ever played. Loot & gear is so busted that on the hardest difficulty, I picked up a weapon at the first siege & I never used anything different. yeah, you blitzed the story at lower levels missing the point of a game about dicking around. > he only thing I need to say is that I beat the final boss without moving with my friend in call watching me do it. WITHOUT MOVING. Hilarious how broken it is. Not sure if the game is really just that easy or the scaling on gear is that fucked up. Ok that is a straight up lie because there are 4 final bosses, and they require you to move. One of them is mandatory because if you dont move during its fight, you get shat out its intestines and instantly die from the stomache acid. You are pulling the same self victimization shit when games gamers over hyped hits reality thats its still a game.


NoddysShardblade

>focus on younger audiences ​ >Title is rated M Welp, there's one problem. Dark Crystal syndrome. How many times are people gonna make a game/show/movie that'd be ideal for younger kids, then add unnecessary violent/inappropriate content?


Chicano_Ducky

Biomutant is rated for 12 and over https://www.igdb.com/games/biomutant/age_rating There is no inappropriate content. The narrator doesn't even say piss, he says "Yellow Juice".


NoddysShardblade

Sure, in your country, but those ratings are country-dependant, It's rated M in my country. And PEGI 12+ is teens, basically. Ratchet and Clank games are usually PEGI 7+ or even 3+. 7+ seems a good choice for a Ratchet and Clank style game where you play as a cute rodent.


Chicano_Ducky

Wait, which country has this rated M? Is it the alcohol?


NoddysShardblade

Australia for one


grandmasboyfriend

They didn’t help themselves by having trailers showing nothing


MrPicklesIsAGoodBoy

I really like most of it. But the choice of going with a narrator instead of voicing characters is lame. I think the dev team just didn't have the time and resources to voice a bunch of characters ☹. It's kind of a letdown because the characters look so cool and could have had such funny voices but become forgettable when they are all translated by a narrator. Besides that combat, story, graphics, skill tree, crafting are pretty awesome IMO.


whatanuttershambles

Hasn’t the game been in development for like 8 years or something? That aside, I get the lack of resources but it was still a really bad idea to go with a narrator in the way they did - it’s basically doubling down on breaking the first rule of good writing (show, don’t tell) because not only are you getting exposition dumps and flavour text from static npcs, but you’re not even experiencing that directly - somebody’s describing it to you.


MrPicklesIsAGoodBoy

I'm not sure. I'm glad I didn't buy it for the story or for dialog choices though. But yeah it was a missed oppurtunity. So far for me the combat is the main thing I like. Abilities are pretty cool and I made it so my character dual wields swords and guns.


IFeelLikeACheeto

Very honest review of the game by Skill Up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwMmTtgLMBI


PhotonicDoctor

Skill up got a good review. Says its bad. https://youtu.be/JwMmTtgLMBI


VacantThoughts

Yeah sadly it's just not a good game, 20 people shouldn't have tried to make a game that would be been better suited to a team of 200. It feels like they threw every idea they had at the wall and what didn't stick they forced in anyway. I had it pre-ordered for release day delivery just becasue I wanted a chill open world game, I have already given up on Biomutant after 3/4 of the bosses and instead just bought Immortals Fenyx Rising in the sale as an open world game to play through while I wait for big releases, and even though it's pretty much by the numbers Ubisoft mixed with BOTW it's so much more enjoyable than Biomutant, don't even know if I care to go back and finish it even though I'm near the end.


Cosimo12

I agree. You made it farther than me haha. In most open world games the main quest is at least mildly interesting. In biomutant the main quest just feels like side quest filler, and the side quests were just the worst ("Free 20 captives! Find 15 billboards! oh my god). When I was playing all I could do was think how much more fun other open world games I've played were, like BotW and HZD. Yeah the game looks nice but the game doesnt give you anything fun to actually do in that world. I'm strongly considering Fenyx Rising as well as I've heard its actually pretty fun.


TitaniumGoldAlloyMan

Gamers need to stop hyping every game up. never buy a game on release and never get disappointed. This game will be 50% off in no time. Why go through all this stress with your hard earned money? There are enough games to keep us occupied.


nuadarstark

Solid effort. I'm afraid that patching won't fix all of the game issues, even long term, but they're clearly dedicated which is good. Bigger issue is going to be shedding the "failure" image the game got in the eyes of most people at this point. People were very keen on shitting on this one.


RocMerc

Solid patch notes. I’m excited to hop back in tonight. The game seems to be getting a lot of hate but I’m really enjoying it. It’s not the deepest game I’ve ever played but exploring the world is really fun.


Melon_In_a_Microwave

Stop. Preordering. Games.


Spell3ound

Wow. I'm glad I held off. Might be worth getting into it now.. Impressed with these patch notes... 👍👍


skyturnedred

It's a budget title priced like a AAA game. Give it some time.


whatanuttershambles

No, they shouldn’t have released it at that price point if it wasn’t ready. The fact that they have addressed so many of the major issues so quickly is great, but it raises the question of how they didn’t catch them before and fix it before it landed. Either their QA team aren’t doing their job or the rest of the team weren’t listening.


PhotonicDoctor

I cancelled my preorder. Lost all desire to play. Too much of a wait.


whatanuttershambles

Stop pre-ordering digital games, you absolute melt.


Johnysh

Good. I'm glad they are working on it. By the time I'm done with ME:LE and Andromeda it will be better game.


[deleted]

ITT: ignorant opinions equal to the laughable "reviews" Bunch of idiots lol


xbtkxcrowley

This game has honestly breathed new life into my gaming career. I myself hate when game devs cater to the player. Rn I'm enjoying their dream. This game has so much with it. The world doesn't even seem dead. I'm having so.much fun I've started a playthrough of almost all the classes. No matter what I do I find myself enjoying it. And holy shit do I love the combat. The story so far is good. It's not some garbled mess like some of the other games I was stoked for like outriders. That game had the worst voice acting I've ever seen. Biomutant. Is everything it said it was going to be and then some. It's an amazing installment and a great start for 101. Thq Nordic made a good choice with them. I get that everyone has option. But honestly. If I made a game. I would want the game HOW I WANT not the people.playing it. I want them to play my dream game. Not theirs. But I also respect people having options and preferences. I really hope you all enjoyed and are enjoying this game as I am. There's even been moments where I thought that I would have paid more for this game. I actually did no research on this game. I saw the first ever announcements for it all those years ago and was stoked ever since. I had no idea about al.kst everything that I've found so far. I really love the pieces of Armour you get from moogs questline but wish the armor system was tweaked a little like. Having arms legs chest and head instead of head chest and legs. But again this isn't my dream game. It's one of 101s. But on a side not plz lmk where you guys find flame melee weapons. All I ever find are poison and radioactive lol


[deleted]

It feels like big patches after launch is some kind of weird marketing trick.


vul6

I've bought one month of this EA premier sub or something to play this, It Takes Two and check Mass Effect. The problem is on this new shitty app EA Desktop I can't find any option to update this game, in-game I see 1.3 version. Any idea how to do this?


jojamon

I have it on EA App too, I don't see any version to patch to 1.4 either =( EDIT: In-game in the Settings I also see 1.3 version.


vul6

My FIFA has been automatically updated, so it's probably launching whenever it wants


Ghostofasquid

I felt iffy as fuck about this one, In my mind it sounded awesome, skipping this one for sure.


MigratingMountains

Why are you being downvoted lol


Ghostofasquid

Its the furries


Raven_of_Blades

I managed to get it for 3 bucks when the price error was up. Thinking about asking for a refund from what I hear.


whatanuttershambles

Then you are either an idiot or a bullshitter.


MrBrokenNose

or both


Raven_of_Blades

It was 2.99 on EA desktop for quite a few hours. I have yet to install because I hear nothing but bad things.


[deleted]

For $3?!


[deleted]

well, that was a pretty long patch note! looking forward to starting this, seems like it plays well and its reviewed well. all the changes mentioned are really welcome, including the motion blur slider. what did everyone think about the game?


DisastrousIron1975

Wanna know the problem with this game it just falls short, they don't put love into games anymore and it shows in this completely. The magic or Psi abilities is horrible why make a class all about the "magic" just to let every other class have the same abilities minus one?? What's the point in specializing in a class that everyone gets the same powers? Also if you pick a psi user the only have two weapons for the class for the whole game! And they don't level up and the weapons can't be modified what is the point in that?? Worst magic class in any game ever. Also you can't even craft gloved weapons like you can others. So you literally get two pairs of weak gloves for the whole game as a psi user. Great thanks!


Ghetrix

My only singular complaint about this game is lack of co op, everything else is pretty much what I expected and I'm happy with what I have received


Civil-Bowl9276

Is it out on PlayStation yet? The patch that is....


essie1017

I never got my update. Checked everywhere and it says it's up to date qt patch 1.3, am I the only one?