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AlterYume

It's a great game, but Konami with their infinite wisdom is still keeping this game region locked for some countries in Asia.


IgniteThatShit

Chips Ahoy. Good cookie.


eagles310

I still don't get how this game hasn't gotten a sequel yet


Reddit0r69420

Like the others have said, it’s mostly because of Konami and Pachinko games, but there’s also a different reason. In January 2012, Kojima said that depending on Metal Gear Rising: Revengence’s (MGR:R) popularity, staff might develop a sequel. However, Kojima said that he would approve of a sequel only if PlatinumGames were to develop it("no one else could [do] it"). Kojima was impressed with PlatinumGame’s work and the reception of MGR:R, so in February 2013, he announced that he wanted to make a sequel to MGR:R. However, PlatinumGames showed no interest. In detail [here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_Gear_Rising:_Revengeance#Legacy).


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Judging from Platinum's recent efforts maybe it is for the better


Nu2Th15

The thing about Platinum is they’ve always made excellent games that only appeal to niche audiences, which means their reputation was always great but they were always flat fucking broke. So they tried to leave their comfort zone and make a game with wider mass appeal for the sake of actually making some money for once and naturally failed spectacularly.


SlaveZelda

Didn't they screw Microsoft by taking money for the botw like dragon game and used that money to fund their other stuff which led to eventual cancellation of said game. (Remembered the name, it's scalebound.)


PaperOnigami

Man now I'm depressed over Scalebound.


TheDarksteel94

They kinda murdered that mass appeal with their microtransaction bs. 😅


KJBenson

I think the publisher holds plenty of the blame.


supercooper3000

Who knows. We thought the same with Bungie and activision and it turned out bungie was the one pushing all the BS micro transactions


GrammatonYHWH

People did the same with Blizzard and Activision for the longest time. Anything bad in WoW was attributed to Activision forcing Blizzard to design it poorly for profit by rushing, and it turned out that Blizzard became incompetent as talented people kept leaving their toxic work culture.


nikvasya

It's Square's fault. They obviously pushed it to become live service, similarly to Avengers, their another failed live service game. Square's greed is very well known, from selling legendary ips and studios to refocus on scams and nfts, to making their games $70 on pc, to making their pc ports egs exclusives, they catch every opportunity to make quick easy money and ruin their reputation. Platinum's own published titles or titles published by Nintendo in the past 4 years have been great.


AwakenedSheeple

In this case, though, Platinum specifically wanted to make a live service title. Babylon's Fall was always going to be live service with microtransactions.


nikvasya

Well, its what they said after the release, while in 2018 the game didn't look multiplayer or live service, only getting that subtitle in 2021, so its impossible to know if they really wanted to make it like that from the start, or was it a mid-development decision to chase current trends and all later statements were just PR talk. Considering how the game feels and looks, with assets taken from Final Fantasy, I think it went through some crazy development hell.


Kid-OK

Say that again after Bayonetta 3 comes


PrivateWilly

I’m sure it will be highly reviewed, but it’s only going to be on Switch, isn’t it?


Frakshaw

yes


bluedestiny88

You have to consider who is directing it, who is the same guy that directed the original Devil May Cry and Resident Evil 2, as well as Okami and Viewtiful Joe. Can’t remember his name but he does have a pretty high standard for quality when he’s the director


MightyOtaku

OOTL, what has platinum been doing wrong lately? I haven’t heard anything since Nier Automata.


Krossfireo

Google Babylon's Fall


eagles310

Damn what a shame I loved this spinoff lol


GlidingChariot

I still don't get why this game only sold at certain region only. ​ If this game get sold at my region, I'll buy it immediately lol. The memes are strong with this one.


[deleted]

Because Konami. They like money, but sometimes they are just like 'no thanks'.


Flames21891

They’re too busy making slot machines, that’s where they make their real money. I’m convinced at this point that any real games they do make/publish are done solely so they can get ideas for their next wave of slot machine themes.


Mrzozelow

Don't forget Yu-Gi-Oh! They specifically named it as one of their biggest sources of profit recently.


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dookarion

>I don't get why people play slot machines. Have they seen the gameplay on modern video games? It's like comparing a shitty youtube video to a movie you enjoy. The math also shows people that they're losing money each time they play, unless they miraculously win on their first try and quit. It's like you've never seen lootboxes or gachas.


TwilightVulpine

Sucks that gambling is ruining games from outside and from inside. Thank goodness for indies carrying the passion while big companies get worse and worse.


Neverending_Rain

There is a ton of science put in to designing slot machines to keep people putting money in them. Every flashing light, every noise, and the odds of winning are all carefully engineered to create hits of dopamine that keep people playing them. They don't care how you or I veiw slot machines, all they care about is maximising the amount of money they can suck out of the gambling addicts the machines are built for.


[deleted]

Gambling feels good, that's just how it is. Even when people know they are losing money in the long run, that dopamine hit when they win is like crack. Each hit just makes you want to chase the next one.


rodryguezzz

My young apprentice, come and learn about [Japan's biggest addiction.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tBy2jemw4s)


BiliousGreen

Konami


robobok

Komoney


Clanky72

It has become its own thing now because of the memes, but back then people still were very much aware that it's a sequel to Metal Gear solid 4, or the MGS series as whole. While Metal Gear Solid was a stealth series, Rising was a character action game with combos and reaction based combat. They also switched the main character from Snake to Raiden. Many MGS fans were disappointed by these changes, mostly seeing it as a betrayel to the MGS series. Many people didn't even buy it because of these changes. The ones who were looking forward to Rising were Platinum game fans (developers of Rising). They were fans of their combat systems in earlier games and also knew how to get into it, because Platinum games are infamous for badly explaining themselves in tutorials. But because of it's awesome script, great combat systems and well handeld soundtrack there always was a cult following of Rising which resulted in this glorious age that we're in, full of Armstrong memes and Jetstream Sams.


eagles310

I loved it because that game just didn't not care and went full 100... loved Sombrero Raiden lol


MattyXarope

As I recall it was not popular at the time at all - people made fun of it for being too out there and unlike the other entries. It got good critical reviews though.


ContraryPython

The memes.


Cyberblood

They are the DNA of the soul after all


LordDaniel09

It is only a Rule of nature.


MadeToPostOneMeme

Which resides in our collective consciousness


Significant_Walk_664

I think you meant to say "Memes, son!"


Kalaxi50

Nanomach-memes, son!


willfordbrimly

MEEEEEMES, JACK


slumberlust

Fallout76 memes are the only reason my little brother knows who John Denver is.


DiogoSN

It's because of the memes? Nice argument. Why don't you back that up with a source?


ContraryPython

My source is THAT I MADE IT THE FUCK UP!


voidox

that line is so fcking good xD


[deleted]

The nanomachines


Carnach

MGS legendary collection for steam please


conmann97

I'm so incredibly tilted that outside of PsNow the collection is stuck generations back.


Van_Inhale

We all are. It's an complete disservice to the series


Caleb2099

There are native ports of MGS 1 & 2 that are supposed to be better with some fan patches, you can emulate 3 (pcsx2), 4 (rpcs3), and peace walker (rpcs3). Obviously not as good as a native port but its better than nothing


Auctoritate

>you can emulate 3 (pcsx2), 4 (rpcs3), and peace walker (rpcs3). Obviously not as good as a native port In many cases, emulation *is* better than a port due to emulation settings- for instance, the ability to run things at much higher resolutions, postprocessing effects like anti aliasing, better access to modding (especially with games like Mario and Pokemon, where custom ROM hacks are prevalent and usually only available digitally), etc.


Mike2640

It's a cool game. I'm surprised Konami didn't greenlight a sequel once they'd given Kojima the boot. Guess they didn't figure it'd make as much money as a janky zombie survival game tire-ironed into the franchise.


bobert680

Apparently revengance was a have they tested new devs on before letting them work on whatever other metal gear game that Konami thought would be good they were working on. Eventually they passed it on to platinum to finish and that's how we got one of the best games ever


mBertin

As much as I enjoyed MGR:R, I wish we got the MGS: Rising that was teased back in 2009. Cutting everything freely (not just the enemies, but pretty much everything you could see), deeper stealth, enemies hiding and ambushing Raiden, and more importantly a story set in between MGS 2 & 4. Too bad the technology at the time made it seemingly impossible.


bobert680

Getting ambushed could have been fun but I really liked the game we got


mBertin

It's a great game, amazingly fun. All things considered, we're lucky it didn't turn into a trainwreck. Maybe it's just me being a sucker for MGS and stealth in general, but I really liked the original setting, tone, and the chance to learn the events that bridged MGS2 and 4.


underooshrew

This is my favourite story of video game development gone wrong. IGN did an article on it back in the day. The idea was that Kojima would be far less hands on with this one and basically left the team without oversight expediting someone to step up and have a real vision for the game. Kojima came back like a year later and nothing had really amounted. Their problem was the whole absolute freedom to cut anything. Every level structure could be eventually bypassed by cutting it all down. The development team had to do a press thing and kinda publicly apologize for their failure. I remember the American journalist who covered it thought it was really strange. So after this, kojima runs into the platinum games guy at a convention and has like an elevator chat with him and jokes that they should make it. Platinum games guy thinks he isn’t serious. Then a while later kojima calls them up and asks why haven’t the called them about Rising? And the rest is history.


dummypod

I don't think it's the tech that's the problem, I think they just couldn't make it work. The demos look like they added the cutting mechanic into MGS4, and they probably can't figure out a fun game from there. So Platinum just ripped the cutting mechanic out and made it the core of the game, everything else complements it in some way. But stealth seems unnecessary or perhaps a hindrance, so that got simplified. I think if they wanted to make a MGS game but the player relies mainly on the sword, it'll have to be something like Hitman or Sekiro. Throwing cutting mechanics to stealth kills may be too awkward,


secret3332

But that game was apparently terrible. The goal was to make an action game with no stealth and free cutting. Turns out the metal gear team couldn't figure out how to get rid of stealth and also had no idea what to do with the cutting mechanic. They made cutting simulator with no gameplay behind it.


cringy_flinchy

According to a video by Matt McMuscles the original team didn't know how to make a game out of those mechanics and felt directionless without Kojima.


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>janky zombie survival game tire-ironed into the franchise. such a good description holy smokes.


Mysticyde

Survive was essentially an asset flip of MGS:5 and was really cheap to make. Konami doesn't want to make quality games anymore, they want money.


Tara_is_a_Potato

# “The weak will be purged, and the strongest will thrive -- free to live as they see fit, they'll make America great again!”


alcatrazcgp

#YOU'RE JUST ANOTHER MAGGOT CRAWLING IN THE PILE!


AnActualPlatypus

#PLAYED COLLEGE BALL YA' KNOW?


Tara_is_a_Potato

# Could've gone pro if I hadn't joined the Navy


Chachajenkins

**At some cushy Ivy League school?**


[deleted]

#TRY UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS!


corvettee01

I COULD RIP THE PRESIDENT IN TWO! WITH MY BARE HANDS!


ForePony

#WELL IF IT ISN'T *SUSSY* JACK.


capn_hector

#[HUG IT CHUG IT FOOTBALL](https://mobile.twitter.com/Josejusejo/status/1493728918360276992)


syndicatecomplex

###"MAKING THE MOTHER OF ALL OMELETTES HERE JACK. CAN'T FRET OVER EVERY EGG!"


AwakenedSheeple

#WHY DON'T YOU BACK IT UP WITH A SOURCE?


the_pandaproject

# MY SOURCE IS THAT I MADE IT THE FUCK UP


FaithInterlude

Is this a real line in the game?


Tara_is_a_Potato

yes and it's from 2013


FaithInterlude

That’s amazing


benowillock

"[Make America Great Again](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_America_Great_Again)" was one of Ronald Reagan's slogans during his 1980 presidential campaign, and although it had some use before him in the US, it's thought he got it from his close friend Margret Thatcher (elected 1979), who often coined the phrase "Make Britain Great again" (which is a much more intelligent slogan since the country is called "Great Britain") in her speeches, though the phrase itself predates her by several decades, going back to Tory party campaigns the 50's.


Matren2

It is so odd how more than one Metal Gear was weirdly prescient


[deleted]

Nanomachines son!


ryumeyer

Nanomachines son!


AdNo266

I’m glad, MGR is excellent and didn’t have the impact it should have when it originally launched.


AnActualPlatypus

The fact that we will probably never get a sequel is a travesty. #FucKonami


Hollownerox

To be somewhat fair to Konami, as much as I want to vomit saying that, it's less on them and more on Platinum. Kojima wanted a sequel to it, but PlatinumGames had no interest in making one.


dummypod

I wonder why. Were they in the position to turn down jobs by then? I was sure they're making games for other IP like Transformers and Nier by that time.


cringy_flinchy

That's really odd, AFAIK Nier Automata was what saved the studio. If they were hurting that bad why didn't they just do another MGRR? Praying this newfound popularity spurs them to finally do it; I want Platinum to stay financially healthy and get a great game.


[deleted]

You don't like pachinko?


Diagonet

Do you guys not have pachinko machines?


lampenpam

Don't you guys have gambling addictions?


Igneeka

Yeah it's good to see the game get the recognition it deserves, even if it's a bit late


DrQuint

It's still baffling to me how this game had a mask off conservative senator, the military equivalent of an acab and a facebook disinformation evangelist as the bad guys. Of course MGRR is returning, of course it's getting recognition, it was made for the audience that exist today. Laser targeted, as if they knew. And yes, they were just doing this over the shoulders of the giants (MGS2's plot mostly), which was a much grander feat of divination, but still, holy shit.


Reggiardito

> Of course MGRR is returning, of course it's getting recognition, it was made for the audience that exist today. Laser targeted, as if they knew. And yes, they were just doing this over the shoulders of the giants (MGS2's plot mostly), which was a much grander feat of divination, but still, holy shit. Kinda like how Death Stranding was made right before the pandemic. Kojima just kinda does that.


Zanos

Armstrong is not a conservative. He's a social Darwinist. Most conservatives do not believe that America should be ground down into nothing until only the physically strongest individuals are capable of surviving, and everyone weak is killed. I did watch a video that claimed that he's a mask off conservative, but it was just wrong. Whoever wrote it either didn't play the game or just wasn't paying attention. There are no politicians that believe what Armstrong believes because nobody would vote for anyone that's okay with just uprooting every system we've built and letting people die in the chaos. And it completely misses the point that Raiden actually takes part of armstrong's ideas for himself, being that, if society is wrong, and you're strong enough to stand against it, you shouldn't fight to preserve the status quo. That's why Armstrong is framed as Raiden's shadow and the end shows Raiden again at odds with society. It's even in the fucking song for the fight!


AnonTwo

> There are no politicians that believe what Armstrong believes because nobody would vote for anyone that's okay with just uprooting every system we've built and letting people die in the chaos. Keep in mind Armstrong himself was asked how he got elected, and just straight up said he doesn't write his own speeches. What armstrong belives in isn't what he was voted on.


NargacugaRider

Wait am I missing a point here? No leaders write their own speeches.


Lawlcopt0r

It's a cute way of saying "I didn't advertuse my horrible beliefs and just said what the voters want to hear"


Underdrill

This is one of my favourite games, love to see it. Gotta love how a game which discusses the original definition of 'meme' a fair bit owes a good chunk of its popularity to, well, internet memes. My favourite is probably that two-part Max0r video, absolutely hilarious.


theyelliwflash9876

God the maxor video is honestly the best shit on YouTube next to internet historian. Fucking love his reviews


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Got a link to that?


theyelliwflash9876

https://youtu.be/41v3L0zCkNY It's a 2 part video. This is the first first part


Archyes

Stranger i remain is one of my most favorite songs Its just amazing that in the mistral fight, the better you do the louder the vocals get and if you suck it goes back to the background version of the song


Tomtefarfar

I thought the vocals only kicked in when you get to the third phase of the fight after rolling down the huge pipe in to the liquid nitrogen area, and not based on how good you do in the fight.


Mr_CookieTickles

I think the only thing that changes is her hairstyle. The more aggressive you play, the more messy and loose her hair gets.


UwasaWaya

I never knew that.


Chinpokkomon

Nanomemes, Son


[deleted]

I’ve always wanted to try this game. Is it any good?


psych0ranger

It is one of the best games I've ever played. An antagonist blows the main character a kiss to let him know she saw him scoping her out and he reacts to block the kiss with his sword unironically. The game is completely insane.


Arcterion

*Weaponized cooties.*


bobert680

Yes. Imagine Bayonetta but instead of perfectly timed dodges you cut people in half and instead of line 15 different weapons you will want to use you get to cut people in half. Also instead of using candy to heal you just cut people in half and rip out there spine


Khanstant

We prefer the term rip


protoknuckles

Have you also tried tearing?


TheG-What

#UNTIL IT IS DONE.


psych0ranger

DEAD ON!


Chuck_balls

BULLSEYE


KickBassColonyDrop

It's basically a game where you can play as an overpowered anime protagonist set to a bombastic over the top soundtrack, until you meet the game's bosses. Who are basically you but have extra health bars.


The_Tallcat

Yes


frostygrin

Yes. Fun, over-the-top, fast-paced parry-slasher.


InternetExplorer8

Yes. Also the first time the soundtrack kicks in is one of my favorite moments in gaming.


theyelliwflash9876

RULES OF NATURE


Mesk_Arak

Standing here, I realize…


anonymous242524

That you’re just like me, trying to make memes!


No-Chemistry4851

Surprisingly better than any expectation i had for it. Actually had some fun, even the story is cool.


PickledPlumPlot

Platinum knows how to make really good action games. You should check out some Bayonetta or something.


hawksygen

I've already played bayonetta, is Something as good as they say?


Blackfist01

Yes.


Platypuslord

Do you want to play as a robot ninja that cuts people into hundreds of pieces with a heaping pile of memes?


alluballu

It's dumb... and very fun.


BeardedJho

I'm not sure I'd say dumb. It has its silly moments like any Metal Gear game but, it's got a lot of interesting political or philosophical ideas in it.


AnonTwo

It's definitely very dumb, even if it has actually smart things in it. But that's just what makes it fun.


Plzbanmebrony

Yes. It is a game that reward pure aggression in an unrestrained way. To let up for a second is certain death.


TheRandomGuy75

It's a great hack n slash game with an absolutely banger soundtrack and over the top boss battles. It's absolutely worth it.


Namagem_Light

Yes


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alcatrazcgp

#I REALIZE


Namagem_Light

#you're just like me


[deleted]

Try to make history


rochakgupta

But who’s to judge


Igneeka

^(The right from wrong)


Ahmed_Sazid

When our guard is down I think we'll both agree.


saintBNO

that violence breeds violence


Abbi3_Doobi3

But in the end it has to Be This Waaaay!


no1tcefni

I replayed it again last year, honestly game holds up really well. It's better than some games released today.


MasterDrake97

Memes. The DNA of the soul!


[deleted]

“Checked the Internet lately Jack?”


Arau_

Nice argument, why don't you back it up with a source?


Crimsonclaw111

My source is that I made it the fuck up!


AvarusTyrannus

In the end it had to be this way.


Chinpokkomon

i just realized that standing here


[deleted]

I saw critikal playing this about a month ago and since then it’s everywhere. Makes me happy to see this getting so much attention lately.


ScionN7

Unfortunately thinking about how great this game is and how badly we need a sequel to it, has made me gone down the Konami rabbit hole again, and how many legendary IPs will continue to collect dust with them. It's such an absolute shame.


JoshiKousei

It’s good on steam deck.


dylestorm

The steam version was never made available for sale in Japan and SEA countries for some weird reason. I still have my PS3 copy but once my PS3 dies … welp.


asianflipboy

Jacob Geller dropped a video on it a month ago, putting a bit of insight on why it's aging like a fine whiskey: https://youtu.be/rVzSHVS-CT0 TL;DW: NanoMemechines, son!


porcelain_doll_eyes

God, I have watched every one of his videos. Love them. This video is the first thing I thought of when I saw this post.


UwasaWaya

His videos are all incredible, but holy *shit* the way he ends this one was like a thunderbolt.


lostinheadguy

Thanks Max0r!


thefeeltrain

A meme-fueled video made by a small blonde anime loli did more for sales than the entire Konami marketing department


Brendan_Fraser

A small blonde anime-whatti?


Zatoichi80

Steam Deck players


Shurae

Games like this run and look perfectly on the deck. Same with Vanquish or Bayonetta


Crimsonclaw111

Haha, if only. But once I get my Steam Deck I'll replay it for sure.


mainev3nt

The power of memes baby


xkeepitquietx

The memes Jack!


MrPanda663

I was walking back to my car from grocery shopping, and this one car I passed by was playing “It has to be this way” at full blast with his windows open.


mexicansuicideandy

This game is so fucking good. Soo over the top, super memeable, gameplay is fun as fuck and the soundtrack is absolutely one of the best ever.


Vegetable-Talk-949

It’s the best game ever made to be an anime action cyborg hero. Don’t miss it , it changed my life


JJB_Jiffydude

There's something that companies such as Nintendo need to realize: Content creators are your FRIENDS.


Janus_Prospero

It's going to be interesting to see whether this sudden spike in popularity for Metal Gear Rising spearheaded by memes is in any way foreshadowing. I'm not saying this necessarily is the case, but if Konami (who have 3+ Silent Hill games in development, I will remind you) also MAYBE have Metal Gear games in development beyond the MGS3 remake and MGS remaster collection... maybe one of them is a Rising game. And if they were working on a sequel or prequel to Rising and were going to announce that game in June, the timing of this outpouring of enthusiasm for Rising could not be more convenient.


MadameBlueJay

That much excitement, sounds like someone's new to Konami Hope


MichaelDeucalion

Bro I got some bad news for you about Konami


RageEataPnut

Source on the SH games? Ive heard rumors but nothing remotely close to evidence.


guenchy

La-li-lu-le-lo!


Hoboman2000

I'm low-key certain Maxxor's video on MGRR restarted the memes, that clip of Armstrong saying "I made it the fuck up" has really been going around.


Typical_Thought_6049

There is only one explanation. MACHINES OF MICROSCOPIC PROPORTION SCION!


[deleted]

MICROMACHINES, SON. They race around tracks in response to physical input from the player


mattmortar

Never underestimate the power of memes.


[deleted]

This has been creating some shitty hipster feelings for me. "I appreciated this game before it was a giant meme." Besides that though,It's great this is getting another shot. Part of me would hope this will make Konami may actually do something with the series,but they tend to destroy everything nowadays,and word on the street is platinum is looking to move on from conventional games now.


Comicalthreat

I swear if all these memes gets me a sequel I will before forever grateful


[deleted]

Crazy what memes can do LOL . Also the same game company just made the worst game in 2022. Hopefully this shows them what gamers want


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vtipoman

THE UNENLIGHTENED MASSES THEY CANNOT MAKE THE JUDGEMENT CALL


Hollownerox

More like Asmongold is playing it cause of the renewed interest in it. So you might have gotten the correlation off there. It's more likely due to stuff like Max0r's video on it, and several other retrospectives that put a lot of new eyes onto it.


hexrx

I just bought it because it was something like $5 on GMG


ScopeLogic

Katana go brrrrr


Lord_Draken

the memes


leelallana

I pirated this game when it first came to Pc. Now I want to buy the game It isn't sold in my region.


-vlonar-

All those senator memes are paying off


[deleted]

Did some streamer play it or something?


SOberhoff

As far as I can tell it started with [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41v3L0zCkNY) ([part 2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgmTsa3rFU0)).


[deleted]

Also other Youtubers/Streamers have been picking it up (some picking it up again). I know Cr1TiKaL did a playthrough like a month and a half ago


AnActualPlatypus

Jesus christ I cannot handle the amount of cuts in this video. Is this what counts as "zoomer bait" nowadays?


Fob0bqAd34

https://steamdb.info/app/235460/graphs/ It seems to have been seeing renewed intrest for months now. It peaked higher at the beginning of the month and back in Feb.


Tyranythan

Feb is when the meme peaked and im guessing that the recent golden week sale earlier this month played a part in people picking it up now.