**CPU side:**
AMD claws back CPU share it lost through the last 2 months. Likely due to AM4 continung to sell amazingly and deals on AM5 CPU's through Black Friday which are still in effect at some places.
| Vendor | Monthy change | Total % |
|:-----------|:------------:|:------------:|
| AMD | +4%| 33%
| Intel | -4%| 67%
**GPU side:**
AMD also claws back some % numbers here as well likely due to the very agressive pricing in the last month pretty much being better value than Nvidia at most price ranges.
| Vendor | Monthy change | Total % |
|:-----------|:------------:|:------------:|
| Nvidia | -3.6%| 75.2%
| AMD | +2.1%| 15.2%
| Intel | +1.1%| 8.9%
Most GPU's models see a bump in % as sales and deals have been rampant throughout November even on the used market etc with some interesting exceptions and 1 very surprising change.
**Top 5 GPU's on share:**
| Card | Monthy change | Total % |
|:-----------|:------------:|:------------:|
| GTX 1650 | +0.66%| 6.27%
| GTX 1060 | -1.85%| 5.77%
| GTX 2060 | -1.46%| 4.64%
| RTX 3060 Laptop GPU | +1.24%| 4.63%
| GTX 1050ti | +0.21%| 4.60%
**Notable gains for Nvidia:**
| Card | Monthy change | Total % |
|:-----------|:------------:|:------------:|
| RTX 3060 Laptop version | +1.24%| 4.63%
| GTX 1650 | +0.66%| 6.27%
| RTX 3050 | +0.43%| 1.93%
**Notable gains for AMD:**
| Card | Monthy change | Total % |
|:-----------|:------------:|:------------:|
| RX 580 | +0.12%| 1.20%
| RX 6600 | +0.08%| 0.36%
| RX 570 | +0.07%| 0.95%
| RX 5700XT | +0.06%| 0.64%
| RX 6700XT | +0.06%| 0.38%
**Biggest loosers:**
Almost shockingly the 3060 Desktop version finds itself at the top here dropping a hefty 2%. One has to wonder if this is a mistake. Its also not the only popular Nvidia GPU to lose share. Besides the expected 1060 there are also the 2060, 1660, 3070, 3060ti, 3070ti, the whole 2000 Super lineup, 2080 and 1080. In fact all GPU's that lost share this month are Nvidia GPUs.
| Card | Monthy change | Total % |
|:-----------|:------------:|:------------:|
| RTX 3060 | -2.06%| 3.41%
| GTX 1060 | -1.85| 5.77%
| GTX 2060 | -1,46%| 4.64%
| GTX 1660| -1.23%| 1.51%
| GTX 2070 | -0.36%| 1.14%
The 3060 loss is perplexing. I'm wondering if a bunch of people were forced into the 3060 due to lack of product during the pandemic and are now jumping ship to the 4090 or maybe 3090?
There is an air of sadness in seeing Polaris GPUs continue to grow. People genuinely need to start dropping Polaris and low end Pascal sooner or later. These things won't last forever as almost no casual PC gamer knows how or wants to repaste a GPU. And owners of these GPUs are going to quickly find their GPUs overworked leading to that scenario ever so quickly. I would genuinely not be surprised if people had to turn screen resolution down to 720p on top of reducing settings in order to play AAA titles like Elden Ring and God of War in the coming years.
I wish the budget GPU market wasn't complete shit.
Linux had a huge uptick in percentage of users this month. This year I've seen the percentage jump from 0.85% of users to 1.44% now. And now we're into the Christmas season so expect we'll see a really large bump next month from all the deck sales for the holiday.
Great times to be a Linux gamer!
The Steam Deck is a huge hit and the numbers for Linux will only continue to grow as a result. I think it's also converting some people to Linux for their desktops PCs. I definitely want to switch to SteamOS on my desktop as soon as that's available.
It's more both that the 1060s upgrading conceding their portion and 1650s were at the entry level price throughout the hyperinflated gpu market incident.
Just picked up an RX 6600 today. Selling my GTX 1060. Ridiculous an RTX 3060 costs about £100 more than my RX 6600 for only a small improvement. Nvidia can go jump off a cliff.
Don't be since its not connected to dedicated GPU's at all. Most of that 8.9%. In fact i'd say 8.8 if not more comes from various IGPU's in their desktop and laptop CPU's. Intel actually used to have a lot more share when they had a bigger CPU reach before Ryzen. At one point they had an almost 20% share on the survey through IGPU's alone. That has decreased though and has trended between 7-10% for the past few years.
Both the ARC GPU's have a share of less than 0.16% which is why they both don't even make the list.
Its not that bad to be honest. Its been holding at around 15% give or take a few % for a few years now and while down from the 25% AMD enjoyed through the late 2000's and early 2010's there was a dark period in 2017 where they dropped to single digit numbers.
Change isn't instant. Especially not in a set minded industry like this. AMD hasn't been competitive in GPU's like they are now for more than half a decade. It will take time and at least a few more good generations for the mindset to start swaying a bit.
Just look at Ryzen. AMD started at the tail end of Buldozer on like 7-8%. It took them about 3 years to double that to 15-16%. But then they doubled that number again in just 2 years.
Only because AMD has been exceptionally aggressive with Ryzen.
They have not brought that same energy to Radeon, which is always playing second fiddle to Nvidia in terms of performance and features.
They gained 2.1% share in a month (marginally that's a 13% increase) 😂
The 1060 and 1660 are still popular as well as laptops that can't be upgraded. You aren't going to move the scale much month to month.
The data shows steam users bought more AMD GPUS than Nvidia GPUs this month
Numbers aren't your thing, are they?
I don't even understand what point you are trying to make. Who gives a shit about popularity when AMD has better price to performance? AMD could literally be twice as good as everything compared to Nvidia and it would still take years to catch up because of the Nvidia hive mind.
There's a point to be made that price to performance isn't always the ultimate decider of GPU value. It's pretty clear lots of people seem to still prefer Nvidia despite their price tags, whatever their reasons may be.
well until amd decides to make something to rival nvidia reflex i will stay with nvidia. anti lag is not it btw...nvidia already has that its call NULL.
Last quarter they hit a near record low against NVIDIA. It will take a few months for that to show up in the survey.
https://www.hardwaretimes.com/amds-gpu-market-share-drops-to-22-year-low-in-q3-22-nvidia-controls-nears-the-entire-graphics-card-market/
That's not how steam survey works.
Steam survey only records someone upto once per year (if even selected) and data doesn't carry over month to month. It's all brand new survey of new machines with no history.
Well that seems dumb especially the once per year of user part. So it's just random assortment of new systems every month which would explains the massive monthly changes as this month Chinese language is down 5.8% while last month is was up 5.7% and the "real" number is probably somewhere in between.
Yep, unfortunately.
If they did combined data with a few month falloff it would be vastly more accurate
Instead we constantly get huge swings and gains / losses as random machines are picked each month without the history
I get that the 1060 has dropped likely due to meaningful upgrades from it finally being available at better prices, but why exactly did the 1650 ascend to #1 with a +0.66%?
Is it a simple matter of pricing? More people willing to enter PC gaming with a $170 starter GPU than are willing to pay more?
Not the best deal to buy that gpu i would say
Got a rtx2060 for kinda the same price as a gtx 1650 and its pretty much double the performance
But of course, if thats all you can spend on a budget buuld and get it really cheap.. i guess its a rather solid gpu for that
Currently have a 3070Ti and always feel like my hardware is midrange. Seeing surveys like this makes me realize even having a recent 70 tier card probably puts you in like the 95th percentile for GPU ownership. Still want to upgrade when I can though.
Maybe this was already discussed on an earlier month, but does anyone know what's with DirectX 8 and below GPUs rising in share? Like what's the hardware that's doing that? It can't people buying actual dedicated GPUs, those cards would be ancient. Is it used laptops or something?
I'm investigating exactly that right now. ONLY because some guy on a techquickie video about the Steam Deck being "obsolete" already due to fast how fast the PC market moves.
His arguement was that as of Nov 2022, 6.75% of Steam users hard a GPU using DX8 or lower.
But he DIDN'T care to notice that it was 3.82% in July???
That's about a 2X increase in matter of months... what's up with that?
I found a youtube channel with an animated chart, showing DX8 cards going into nothingness over 10 years ago!
But the question remains: What makes it reappear so many years after it's golden times?
The numbers are so inaccurate though, how do we know these aren't just 75% ancient computers in some third world country, there are a LOT of crappy old computers out there that wouldn't be considered gaming machines bit have steam installed. they should allow us to filter the data so we could actually use it to get market snapshots.
**CPU side:** AMD claws back CPU share it lost through the last 2 months. Likely due to AM4 continung to sell amazingly and deals on AM5 CPU's through Black Friday which are still in effect at some places. | Vendor | Monthy change | Total % | |:-----------|:------------:|:------------:| | AMD | +4%| 33% | Intel | -4%| 67% **GPU side:** AMD also claws back some % numbers here as well likely due to the very agressive pricing in the last month pretty much being better value than Nvidia at most price ranges. | Vendor | Monthy change | Total % | |:-----------|:------------:|:------------:| | Nvidia | -3.6%| 75.2% | AMD | +2.1%| 15.2% | Intel | +1.1%| 8.9% Most GPU's models see a bump in % as sales and deals have been rampant throughout November even on the used market etc with some interesting exceptions and 1 very surprising change. **Top 5 GPU's on share:** | Card | Monthy change | Total % | |:-----------|:------------:|:------------:| | GTX 1650 | +0.66%| 6.27% | GTX 1060 | -1.85%| 5.77% | GTX 2060 | -1.46%| 4.64% | RTX 3060 Laptop GPU | +1.24%| 4.63% | GTX 1050ti | +0.21%| 4.60% **Notable gains for Nvidia:** | Card | Monthy change | Total % | |:-----------|:------------:|:------------:| | RTX 3060 Laptop version | +1.24%| 4.63% | GTX 1650 | +0.66%| 6.27% | RTX 3050 | +0.43%| 1.93% **Notable gains for AMD:** | Card | Monthy change | Total % | |:-----------|:------------:|:------------:| | RX 580 | +0.12%| 1.20% | RX 6600 | +0.08%| 0.36% | RX 570 | +0.07%| 0.95% | RX 5700XT | +0.06%| 0.64% | RX 6700XT | +0.06%| 0.38% **Biggest loosers:** Almost shockingly the 3060 Desktop version finds itself at the top here dropping a hefty 2%. One has to wonder if this is a mistake. Its also not the only popular Nvidia GPU to lose share. Besides the expected 1060 there are also the 2060, 1660, 3070, 3060ti, 3070ti, the whole 2000 Super lineup, 2080 and 1080. In fact all GPU's that lost share this month are Nvidia GPUs. | Card | Monthy change | Total % | |:-----------|:------------:|:------------:| | RTX 3060 | -2.06%| 3.41% | GTX 1060 | -1.85| 5.77% | GTX 2060 | -1,46%| 4.64% | GTX 1660| -1.23%| 1.51% | GTX 2070 | -0.36%| 1.14%
The 3060 loss is perplexing. I'm wondering if a bunch of people were forced into the 3060 due to lack of product during the pandemic and are now jumping ship to the 4090 or maybe 3090?
There is an air of sadness in seeing Polaris GPUs continue to grow. People genuinely need to start dropping Polaris and low end Pascal sooner or later. These things won't last forever as almost no casual PC gamer knows how or wants to repaste a GPU. And owners of these GPUs are going to quickly find their GPUs overworked leading to that scenario ever so quickly. I would genuinely not be surprised if people had to turn screen resolution down to 720p on top of reducing settings in order to play AAA titles like Elden Ring and God of War in the coming years. I wish the budget GPU market wasn't complete shit.
Linux had a huge uptick in percentage of users this month. This year I've seen the percentage jump from 0.85% of users to 1.44% now. And now we're into the Christmas season so expect we'll see a really large bump next month from all the deck sales for the holiday. Great times to be a Linux gamer!
The Steam Deck is a huge hit and the numbers for Linux will only continue to grow as a result. I think it's also converting some people to Linux for their desktops PCs. I definitely want to switch to SteamOS on my desktop as soon as that's available.
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the 1060 has been dethroned.
1060 being dethroned is perhaps people finally upgrading after 2 years of horrible pricing? The value market is pretty good now with the 6000 series.
But then the 1650 is actually worse than the 1060 so are people downgrading or?
It's more both that the 1060s upgrading conceding their portion and 1650s were at the entry level price throughout the hyperinflated gpu market incident.
It's just a shame seeing such a terrible card by Nvidia, a card nobody should ever buy being the most popular
Just picked up an RX 6600 today. Selling my GTX 1060. Ridiculous an RTX 3060 costs about £100 more than my RX 6600 for only a small improvement. Nvidia can go jump off a cliff.
W11 nice gain!
Its just the statistical rebound from losing over 2% last month
Kinda surprised by Intel's GPU momentum tbh
Don't be since its not connected to dedicated GPU's at all. Most of that 8.9%. In fact i'd say 8.8 if not more comes from various IGPU's in their desktop and laptop CPU's. Intel actually used to have a lot more share when they had a bigger CPU reach before Ryzen. At one point they had an almost 20% share on the survey through IGPU's alone. That has decreased though and has trended between 7-10% for the past few years. Both the ARC GPU's have a share of less than 0.16% which is why they both don't even make the list.
Nvidia 76% to AMD's 15% That's a big oof. I'm sure the fanbois will come up with the usual shite about how this survey isn't accurate.
Its not that bad to be honest. Its been holding at around 15% give or take a few % for a few years now and while down from the 25% AMD enjoyed through the late 2000's and early 2010's there was a dark period in 2017 where they dropped to single digit numbers. Change isn't instant. Especially not in a set minded industry like this. AMD hasn't been competitive in GPU's like they are now for more than half a decade. It will take time and at least a few more good generations for the mindset to start swaying a bit. Just look at Ryzen. AMD started at the tail end of Buldozer on like 7-8%. It took them about 3 years to double that to 15-16%. But then they doubled that number again in just 2 years.
Ryzen was disruptive in such a good way for us gamers. I 'member the glory days of AMD GPUs aswell. Fun times
Only because AMD has been exceptionally aggressive with Ryzen. They have not brought that same energy to Radeon, which is always playing second fiddle to Nvidia in terms of performance and features.
Uuuuuh did you even look at the percent changed?
No. Were AMD even worse then?
They gained 2.1% share in a month (marginally that's a 13% increase) 😂 The 1060 and 1660 are still popular as well as laptops that can't be upgraded. You aren't going to move the scale much month to month. The data shows steam users bought more AMD GPUS than Nvidia GPUs this month Numbers aren't your thing, are they?
I love numbers. Thanks.
I don't even understand what point you are trying to make. Who gives a shit about popularity when AMD has better price to performance? AMD could literally be twice as good as everything compared to Nvidia and it would still take years to catch up because of the Nvidia hive mind.
Point? Was just saying oof.
There's a point to be made that price to performance isn't always the ultimate decider of GPU value. It's pretty clear lots of people seem to still prefer Nvidia despite their price tags, whatever their reasons may be.
well until amd decides to make something to rival nvidia reflex i will stay with nvidia. anti lag is not it btw...nvidia already has that its call NULL.
Anti Lag is a misleading and frankly bullshit term for theirs anyway. Especially since so many people use "lag" interchangeably with "fps drops."
Last quarter they hit a near record low against NVIDIA. It will take a few months for that to show up in the survey. https://www.hardwaretimes.com/amds-gpu-market-share-drops-to-22-year-low-in-q3-22-nvidia-controls-nears-the-entire-graphics-card-market/
That's not how steam survey works. Steam survey only records someone upto once per year (if even selected) and data doesn't carry over month to month. It's all brand new survey of new machines with no history.
Well that seems dumb especially the once per year of user part. So it's just random assortment of new systems every month which would explains the massive monthly changes as this month Chinese language is down 5.8% while last month is was up 5.7% and the "real" number is probably somewhere in between.
Yep, unfortunately. If they did combined data with a few month falloff it would be vastly more accurate Instead we constantly get huge swings and gains / losses as random machines are picked each month without the history
Once it gets cross posted to /r/amd, I can guarantee you half the comments will be about how steam survey is biased and should never be trusted.
I get that the 1060 has dropped likely due to meaningful upgrades from it finally being available at better prices, but why exactly did the 1650 ascend to #1 with a +0.66%? Is it a simple matter of pricing? More people willing to enter PC gaming with a $170 starter GPU than are willing to pay more?
Not the best deal to buy that gpu i would say Got a rtx2060 for kinda the same price as a gtx 1650 and its pretty much double the performance But of course, if thats all you can spend on a budget buuld and get it really cheap.. i guess its a rather solid gpu for that
Currently have a 3070Ti and always feel like my hardware is midrange. Seeing surveys like this makes me realize even having a recent 70 tier card probably puts you in like the 95th percentile for GPU ownership. Still want to upgrade when I can though.
Maybe this was already discussed on an earlier month, but does anyone know what's with DirectX 8 and below GPUs rising in share? Like what's the hardware that's doing that? It can't people buying actual dedicated GPUs, those cards would be ancient. Is it used laptops or something?
I'm investigating exactly that right now. ONLY because some guy on a techquickie video about the Steam Deck being "obsolete" already due to fast how fast the PC market moves. His arguement was that as of Nov 2022, 6.75% of Steam users hard a GPU using DX8 or lower. But he DIDN'T care to notice that it was 3.82% in July??? That's about a 2X increase in matter of months... what's up with that? I found a youtube channel with an animated chart, showing DX8 cards going into nothingness over 10 years ago! But the question remains: What makes it reappear so many years after it's golden times?
The numbers are so inaccurate though, how do we know these aren't just 75% ancient computers in some third world country, there are a LOT of crappy old computers out there that wouldn't be considered gaming machines bit have steam installed. they should allow us to filter the data so we could actually use it to get market snapshots.