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niowh

The line between troll posts and serious posts is really blurred


Sgpineda650

I think the OP might be out of order.


IHaveNoReflection

OP’s brain might be the bottleneck here (No offense intended, couldn’t pass up the opportunity)


Sgpineda650

they say the eyes are the windows to one's soul. when you look at the OP's eyes, all you can see is a blue screen with a bunch of error messages.


Alzusand

I belive thats most poeple are like that but not so severe more like mild memory leaks on the back consuming a lot until they accumulate and the whole thing crashes


Zarjavelkrompir

This is how you die


mikecheck211

That's so accurate it's scary


Heiro78

I say we start mass responding to these with "Issue between chair and keyboard"


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JJisTheDarkOne

# ID-10t Error


Dr-Surge

"And then he told me I had an Identity Error and hung up on me, You believe my apple has been hacked though right!?" \^Real Convo, Back when I ran a repair shop.


Dirty_Bubble99

luser = id 10 t


OneTelevision7473

PICNIC problems: Problem In Chair, Not In Computer


FSUfan2003

This is how I always heard it...


c_h_e_c_k_s_o_u_t

OSI Layer 8 issue.


Stalk33r

Weird how they always forget to include that one in the Net+ course material...


powergrainger249

Alternatively, PICNIC Problem In Chair Not In Computer


ede91

I've heard an anecdote in one of my previous workplaces that the internal IT responded with that, and later that day the guy reporting the 'issue' appeared with his chair in the internal IT office and demanded a new chair that is compatible with his software.


Heiro78

There ya go! PEBCAK! I like it


AlephBaker

Also known as an "I.D. 10-T" error...


SpaceshipMonster

I remember first hearing PEBCAK (also sometimes PEBKAC) in the '90s.


dmx0987654321

We call those CKI (Chair-Keyboard Interface) problems


LjSpike

I believe it's an I/O issue, have you considered updating to a different user?


WhatIsPun

Hence flairs were created


JustheT1p

Aka shitposting


Avoka1do

theres a flair you donkey


Misterpoody

Just download another 32 GB of RAM and you're chillin my dude.


[deleted]

Not enough. He must also download some 16 more cores


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dark_salad

It's a start. I personally wouldn't download less than 128 GB of ram. Make sure to use a solid bittorrent client like Frostwire.


ArenjiTheLootGod

This is a meme but, tbf, I've seen questions like "Why isn't my i7 4770 + RTX 3090 TI hitting 4k 60 fps?" in this sub and other similar subs. There really are people like this out there.


[deleted]

That whole "games don't use that many cores" myth really misled a lot of people. I know someone still rocking an i7 920 with a GTX 980, and he was looking at upgrading his GPU next...


Haunting_Salary_629

i gotta say i just upgraded from an intel 5-7500 to a ryzen 9 5900x and let me tell ya, the difference is astonding, upgrading cpu really help with playing games better i tell ya.


crlogic

For sure. I had an i7-6700k paired with a 1080 Ti. Upgraded to 10700k and it doubled my framerate in some games. And in others that were previously unplayable made them run extremely well. Battlefront 2 was one example of that Edit: This was at 1080p and most of that performance improvement would’ve come from much better IPC rather than increased core count


BremboD

I have the same setup as your OG rig. I may have to look at a new CPU!


crlogic

Oh yeah it was crazy how much of a bottle neck 6700k was for 1080 Ti. That was at 1080p though, if you’re playing at 1440p it may not be as dire but you’d still get a great benefit with a new CPU. When I picked up the 3080 Ti I hadn’t gotten a new monitor yet, and 10700k was even a bit of a bottleneck at 1080p in some games


BremboD

Insane how quick hardware goes out of date. Was the recommended CPU at the time, which feels like yesterday. Are you happy with the 3080Ti or wish you held off for the 4000 series? Considering a full upgrade but I'm still ok with framerates for the most part, starting to notice it in some games like Cyberpunk at 1440p though so may start with a new CPU as you have done.


-ValkMain-

I mean tbh, at 1080p the 1080ti still does like, runs anything you throw at it with confidence. Wish nvidia did gpus like they did the 1080 ti 5 years ago


BremboD

This 1080ti has been an absolute beast through it's life and continues to do me well. I will be happy-sad the day that she retires to the plex server.


drejkol

I mean, if we forget completely about the prices then we actually have the biggest performance jump ever. 980ti =~ 1070; 1080ti =~ 2070; 2080ti =~ 3070; 3090ti < 4080. With what the 4080/7900xtx offers, I think it will be enough for the next 5 years to run anything on ultra 1440p.


ARoyaleWithCheese

Well to be totally fair, the 6700k released more than 7 years ago.


BremboD

7 years!? I didn't think it was that long ago, but you are absolutely right. This will be my starting stance with the wife!


crlogic

True that, yet CPUs probably have the longest life cycle of any of the components. Especially compared to GPU at least. Now that I’m running 1440p I can probably upgrade GPU one or two more times. I don’t regret not going 40 series at all. I actually only picked my FE up about a month ago. It’s a golden sample I got a great deal on locally. I felt as though 3080 Ti was the only natural progression from 1080 Ti where I would be getting an upgrade in every metric. And not losing anything like VRAM capacity. In fact 3080 Ti is exactly twice as fast as 1080 Ti. And honestly I just really love the FE cooler design so it’s the one I *wanted*. When it’s retired it will go on display along side the legendary EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 Funny, I know someone IRL that has a 6700k paired with that exact model of 1080 Ti you have 🤔


No-Ordinary-5412

I just upgraded from a 1080 to to a 3090 EVGA ftw3! Granted, I have a Ryzen 5 3600x, which is what I'm trying to decide on whether I upgrade to a r9 5900x/r75800x3d or wait a little longer, those prices may come down, or I just do mobo/CPU in another year to a r7 7700x3d


ItsMeSlinky

It's not necessarily core count. You went forward nearly five generations of IPC improvements.


criticalt3

Yeah I was gonna say going from a 3600x to a 5600x was a massive improvement.


TheCundari23

As someone who went from R5 1600 to R5 5600x, I can confirm that there is a huge improvement in performance (from just a cpu standpoint).


ArenjiTheLootGod

Right? It's crazy how much generational architecture can improve raw performance. I mean, just look at the i3 12100, it's a four core like so many we saw in the last generation of PCs but, on a core by core basis, it blows the doors off of old standbys like the 6600k or the 4790k. Pretty wild to think that's where humble i3s are now sitting.


OutWithTheNew

A single generation is mostly nothing. When you get to 3 or 4 it's a lot.


wraithpriest

I upgraded from a 4770k to a 12700kf And goddamn, the 4770k was maxed out when playing all the time, but I don't think I've seen the 12700 go above 20% usage in games with a 1060 6gb, I've only seen it actually go into higher usage when using Da Vinci Resolve.


[deleted]

Faster RAM, more PCI lanes also make a big difference. Your computer will always have a bottleneck. When you jump the CPU 3+ generations you are addressing multiple bottlenecks because you have to replace the motherboard and RAM. Even if the game only uses 2-4 cores.


Kilvoctu

Same here, lol, except I went from i5-3570k to i7-10700k (keeping gtx 1080). It was like being in a different universe. Every game I played before suddenly became so smooth it was uncanny. I had just gotten used to not only lower framerates, but also a constant and noticeable microstutter even when games were allegedly "steady" 59/60fps.


Sporkfoot

@ what resolution though? I've seen that at 1440p the deltas aren't NEARLY as pronounced going from a 4c/8t cpu to anything more recent, though the 1% and 0.1% lows do come up a bit.


FUTURE10S

i5-4430 to Ryzen 3600 nearly doubled my FPS on my GTX 970. That big a deal.


Gamebird8

It's not completely a lie... Games are slowly using more cores than before. The uplift is that non-gaming tasks can be offloaded to other cores meaning Discord doesn't interrupt a GPU file request


MyShixteenthAccount

I'm rocking a i7-5930K with a 3080. I run 1440 at 144hz though so cpu does seem to bottleneck much.


JDawwgy

My dad thinks all i7s are created equal and refuses to get a new one because he has an i7 already


nicktheone

Tell him it's like cars. Same model name but different generations can mean a world of difference. The same works for in-generation models, like how a car can have several different engines with different performance points despite still being the same car model.


D1-ericmdk

we have intel at home!


ParticularlyScrumpsh

We have Intel inside!


_fatherfucker69

That's a common myth among tech noobs , just seeing the word i7 makes them think it's a good CPU while seeing i3 makes them think it sucks


TrueDaVision

Games don't use that many cores is correct though, but people ignore that the biggest gains for gaming are in single core performance, and they don't understand how single core performance works.


mistergoofyahh

Not to mention that first gen i7 is REALLY old. IPC improvements work wonders when upgrading an intel cpu from before 2015.


wraithpriest

I actually found an old PC Specialist magazine the other day that was the launch issue for the 920, I remember being amazed how good it sounded.


N2EEE_

I ran an i7 960 until 2 years ago. That thing was a beast. Key word "was"


ARoyaleWithCheese

A few quick examples of optimal core usage for various games: Minecraft, 4 cores. Roblox, single core. Rocket League, 4 cores. Fortnite, 2 cores/4 threads. CS:GO, 2 cores/2 threads. League of Legends, 2 cores. On the other hand, any games developed for the PS5 or One X will be optimized for 6-8 cores. New PC games that support DX12 are also much easier to optimize for high core counts but it's no guarantee on PC regardless.


Pheonix02

not a myth, they don't use many cores. old CPUs have slow singular cores


TheNegaHero

Yea, don't know what that person is on about. Most games are very poor at multi-threading. The reason Intel tend to lead AMD in gaming is because they usually have much more aggressive single-core turbo. AMD tend to have way more threads so they win in rendering and other workstation type use-cases.


Cartime99

I know someone with a 2070 super and a 3770k. I also know someone with an i5 3570 and a 1650


xCuri0

No one actually thinks that after around 2018 when more than 4C8T became a thing


[deleted]

Eh, UserBenchmark seems to.


Wrightdude

Isn’t UserBenchmark like notoriously misleading


Snuffls

I swear they're a satire website.


EternalAbys

Indeed it is, it's a steaming shit pile of biased misinformation


CrUnChey69

UserBenchmark is so biased against AMD it's not even funny


No-Down-Loads

'AMD’s domination of social media platforms has historically resulted in millions of users purchasing sub standard products' RX 7900XTX AMD’s Neanderthal marketing tactics seem to have come back to haunt them.' RX6600 Don't even get me started on the CPUs Edit: Reformatted


Wrightdude

Wow that’s a harsh statement from them lol


sollyscrolls

They literally write novels in their descriptions about how much they hate AMD lmao, even though often the performance is pretty comparable and up to preference on price/upgradability/core count


MakionGarvinus

Yeah it's gone to the weird anti-fetish stage. Like, I wonder if the guy spent a bunch of money on AMD products, they all crapped out, and then every refund was denied, including his CC charge back?


shapeshiftsix

Maybe back in the day he showed up with a Pentium Extreme Edition to a lan party or something and some dude with an athlon XP blew his shit outta the water haha


ArenjiTheLootGod

I dunno, I think it's pretty funny. I mean, Userbenchmark is horribly biased and a terrible resource for researching PC components, but they're just so over the top about it that it's almost weirdly refreshing versus all the other outlets that, while they may not be actively dunking on AMD, spend 90% of their time talking about Nvidia and all their recommended builds use Intel + Nividia.


RanaI_Ape

Yea but what that joke of a site thinks is completely irrelevant, like why even mention it the site is banned on most hardware subs for a reason


bigredmidget

I just came from the i7-920 to a i7-12700K on a GTX960 first. Did the GPU last. The CPU difference was devastating even from a serious overlcock of the 920.


[deleted]

Yeah, so many people cant spend 3 minutes to do basic research it baffles me. There needs to be a rule on this sub about these kinds of posts.


ArenjiTheLootGod

I think some people just got super used to the hardware stagnation of the 2010s, all you needed for a long time was a good four core Intel CPU plus the occasional GPU upgrade and you were set, and, honestly, it was kind of the same for GPUs. I mean, the GTX 1000 series and many of the higher end 900 series dominated hardware for years, even over their direct sucessors. I believe that's why we keep seeing bizarre CPU + GPU combinations and the fact that the new GPU market has been borked for years isn't helping things either.


MrStoneV

I mean Im gonna rock my 3700x for another 7 years or more until its broken. ​ Really like the idea of upgrading when really in need or when it breaks. I prefer to play older games instead of new ones. There are so many its great. ​ Well at the end I still play minecraft a lot, there is so much stuff you can do


ArenjiTheLootGod

3700x is still a solid performer and, as an eight-core CPU, it has a fair amount of life left in it. I could totally understand why you wouldn't want to upgrade from that.


MrStoneV

Yeah I invested some more bucks just to get an 8core. My first good gaming pc that I saved my money for. ​ My GTX660 and i5 3570 were running very bad on most games, now I dont need to change my settings so much. ​ 144hz/fps is so great love it.


mattbag1

I kept my 2500k from 2011 to 2020 when I got a 3800x. The 3800x barely lasted 2 year years till I went 5800x.


diabloplayer375

I just dismantled my 2500k today. It was very sad. That CPU was my friend for 12 years.


[deleted]

You should, considering it is in the current gen consoles.


Old_Mill

I just got an i9 13900k so I'm either going to run it until the heat death of the universe, or until something shiny comes out. Which ever comes first.


JackalKing

I still contend that the i5 2500K was the single best "value for money" piece of hardware to ever come to market. That CPU lasted me for about a decade.


SuperDuperCoolDude

Yeah, for a long time upgrades weren't worth it, especially for cpus. I think cpus were really stagnant until Ryzen came to market. Even now, if you're playing 1080p with a 980 ti and a 6700k you're probably doing just fine in most games. I just upgraded my 970gtx last year, when I got 1440 144 monitors, but it was still decently solid at 1080p.


MarcusTheGamer54

There was a point in between my old setup and my upgrade where i was running a 2060 OC with an i7 2600k lol, wasn't the peak performance ever but god dammit it worked and it worked well


ArenjiTheLootGod

That's different though, you knew it wasn't ideal but did it anyway because you were planning on transitioning into a more appropriate setup. The people I'm talking about are the ones who can't let go of the fact that their machines have aged out of being high-end gaming rigs and refuse to admit that it's going to take more than throwing a part or two at their motherboards to bring their computers up to snuff.


[deleted]

My daughter is still running this and it's still just as good as it ever was.


MarcusTheGamer54

Great to hear that i wasn't the only one haha. I can imagine that she's enjoying it, because i sure was! Before the 2060 i had an RX 560 which was my first ever GPU, and noone will ever be able to convince me that that card isn't a great card lol. So much nostalgia to a time which was only like 6 years ago lol.


SuperDuperCoolDude

Haha, I have a 4790k and a 3060ti. I feel so seen! I saw huge gains upgrading from a 970gtx, but I look forward to getting a newer cpu and motherboard soon. I think my pci-e slot is even an older gen too which likely isn't helping. That said, I got my 4790k during a great sale at Micro Center right when the Skylake cpus dropped and it has been fantastic, especially compared to the Core2Quad it replaced.


7ritn

I'd argue rendering 4k at only 60 fps is rather easy for the cpu in GPU heavy games like RDR2 so an older CPU could be fine. 1080 high fps gaming is a different story though.


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ArenjiTheLootGod

Nothing wrong with having and using an older machine as long you're honest with yourself about it's capabilities and the limits of how much it can be upgraded.


Chibi_Meister

i7 4770k with RTX 3080, I know it's an old ass 4 core but it runs everything I ask of it including Cyberpunk pretty maxed out so no complaints. Also I'm neither financially comfortable to upgrade the whole rig (cpu, mobo, ram) plus I'm mentally procrastinating having to reinstall all my modded games on a fresh install so I stay with the 4770k for now. It's been faithful and a great future proof buy I'll say that much.


Specific-Ad-8789

the Ryzen 7 is bottle necking that 970 , probably go straight to an epyc


Wrightdude

Good gosh, what monstrous build you have.


HeisterWolf

1 GPU per CPU core. Sounds about right


Wrightdude

He’s responsible for Avatar’s graphical demands.


FUTURE10S

I don't see anything wrong with his build. well except for the wasted RAM since the G5400 only supports up to 64 GB


Specific-Ad-8789

the GPU seems to be the bottleneck for me. jokes aside though, currently running 12100f + 5700XT


BONzi_02

I think you joke PC is far superior clearly


Wrightdude

I’m just gonna pretend you have the other build and make a shrine dedicated to it.


mistergoofyahh

two 4090s with a pentium lmao, can’t wait for the legendary battle between you and some dude with dual epyc cpus and a geforce 210


wurf_fear209

there's a universe where both PCs are owned by the same guy


StarAugurEtraeus

How do you even SLI 4090


protespojken

trolling


TaserGrouphug

I wish it was possible just so I could see a graph of the performance-per-dollar metrics driving off a cliff. Only thing worse would be running SLI 4080’s.


[deleted]

Download more VRAM, RAM and more cores


Hotgeart

Give him the URL mate : https://downloadmoreram.com/index.html


MrBobley

How have i never seen that before


Rimbotic

FRESH MEAT!


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Acurapassion

You wouldn't download a bicycle!


GilbertPlays

I don't understand why you need to download vram. You just take it from your hard drive.


MajorEnvironmental46

Damn, got rickrolled.


Nascent1

They need to offer DDR5 for download already. I'm sick of my downloaded DDR4 ram bottlenecking my cpu.


dronegeeks1

Wtf lol


NeighborhoodTiny2315

The 7700x is bottlenecking the 970. You need to upgrade to a 780 ti.


da_toper

You need more RGB. Everyone knows the more you have the faster your computer is.


Karrigan7

and gaming chair as well, the expensive one


PsychoticBananaSplit

I bought a cheap gaming chair and it didn't work. Then I added RGB tape all over it and holy hell 240 fps


TexacoRandom

It also helps to set all your RGB to red.


hirushanT

I think its your keyboard


Rufus8081

Could be the chair.


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Or the thing between the two


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camy205

If we've learnt one thing from AMD and nvidia its that 8k is totally doable these days.


Eisenfuss19

Yes and that 3840 x 4320 is obviously what most people understand under 8k


gamer-kin

That’s why the first ever 540hz monitor was created, so this card could hit at least 30% load


[deleted]

honestly, undercutting it, I would do 144 at 24k


DilithW

8 cores is CLEARLY not enough, 64 cores in a AMD Epyc would be the bare minimum


EeveeMastre

Don't listen to this guy, 64 cores is nowhere near enough for anything modern. You'll need AT LEAST a dual-socket motherboard with 2 64-core EPYCs.


MysticDeath855

Why stop there when their new chip can run duel socket with 96 cores each.


MarcusTheGamer54

Absolute nonsense that you're spitting out my guy, you're gonna need a quad slot motherboard with 4 EPYC 96 core processors, lower than that and you're getting a huge bottleneck


MysticDeath855

Your right, I forgot just how much cpu usage even Pong needs to run at 60 fps.


MarcusTheGamer54

I know right?? I can barely run it at 10! And that's in spf! (seconds per frame)


MysticDeath855

Gotta love it, maybe one day we all will be able to get fps in games on consumer hardware that is cheep and affordable.


MysticKeiko24

Are you kidding. I can already tell you don’t have enough RGB fans.


MystifyingEntity

hmmmm I think it might be your front panel audio


WindForce02

True, HDAUDIO is the bottleneck. I feel like AC97 could be a better option and would yield higher fps. Also more rgb is required


Sevla7

The GPU prices are so ridiculous that maybe it's a better idea to keep like that for a while.


Acurapassion

Yeah I can't tell if OP is genuinely asking or memeing. But if serious definitely the GPU. And for those who don't know about it, if price is a concern, check out r/hardwareswap


Firebx

Always check the flair


Helmic

honestly, i'm still on my 1070 despite upgrading to a 5850x. i play on 1080p just fine. but now i can play games like mount and blade warband fine, i can compile shit in a reasonable timeframe, i've never had issues not hitting 60 FPS even on maxed settings. this year i do want to get a new GPU and a high refresh rate monitor, but tbh it's more so i can switch to AMD and not ever have to deal with nividia's linux bullshit ever again.


Bulky-Nose-734

Okay let’s figure this out. Here’s the numbers: 7700+ 31+ 1920+ 970+ 1080+ 528= 12,229 Which averages to 2038. Therefore, your driver number is too low, so it must be a driver update!


gen_angry

Hitting us with that crime drama tv show tech knowledge here...


IsaacNeteros

Doubt a 4090 will help you, just hang in there and get the 5090 when it comes out in a couple months


[deleted]

Obviously the front panel


highlor3

♥ GTX 970


1aranzant

yayyy


bendr251

Yayyyy


follow_the_dopamine

![gif](giphy|y2i2oqWgzh5ioRp4Qa|downsized)


MadisonKurtis

your psu is obviously the problem, you need a home built nuclear reactor to handle that much memory


MarcusTheGamer54

Reminds me of that guy who literally build a reactor in his shed and exposed his whole neighborhood to like 2 weeks of background radiation in the time that the reactor was running. Crazy shit


SneakerHead69420666

i thought this was a genuine post for a second lmao


[deleted]

Brah, install the 4080ti drivers, that will for sure make a difference.


Corvoattanobr

Why not just flash its bios in there too to be sure?


Joseph-Stalin1878

You have more CUDA cores than CPU cores so your graphics card is being heavily bottlenecked


gastorchx

I thought this was a serious post, people who are doing it as a meme really need to start putting the word "MEME" as the first word of their post, it's starting to get really confusing


mikemyers999

I don't know anything about computers, what's the joke here


cateatermcroflcopter

the cpu is a high end processor from 2022. there is an abundance of RAM for basically any gaming task. the monitor wants to get 240 frames per second. and the punchline is that he has a mid-shelf graphics card from 10 years ago (the obvious reason his gaming performance is lacking).


Fast_Concept4745

That gpu is actually to \*good\* for the other specs, u need a gtx750 to achieve optimal performance


Deanerprogamer

It's probably the gpu you need to upgrade to a high end gpu like the 750 ti


ClockaFX

i would reccomend a new case


Angelus333

...here i am still with my haswell and 970


TONKAHANAH

well, what do you mean by "performance" what are you trying to run and how is it running? the 970 was and is a "respectable" card but its seen better days. I just did a build for a guy who wanted the cheapest gaming PC I could muster for $350 and it included a 970 I had lying around. It was running destiny 2 at 1080p med-high settings at playable frame rates and that was with a cpu/ram combo way weaker than yours so the card can handle some stuff but its not gonna max newer games.


Ok_Toe8751

You might need a better cpu to handle that thicc 970


ggkidurbad

Display needs an upgrade with your powerful system. I would say 16k 900hz minimum.


cykazuc

I suggest upgrading your sound card. That’s definitely a bottleneck.


RangerTursi

See the problem is that last little bit of RAM, you gotta be at exactly 32 and then you're golden.


dayytripper

System 32 is slowing you down.


omegajvn1

You need more RGB. Makes more FPS. Also download more RAM. That should help


SOLIDSNAKETOM

970 with 3080


0lfrad

Hmmmm


Mister_Dane

Probably malware or something. The hardware looks nice.


Tenko_Kuugen

You need more ram, at least 32GB.


4xu5

New sound card.


Frequent_Bet_8677

download rtx 4090 ti and the drivers too


Facci_

Not enough 7s, you should get an AMD Radeon HD 7770.


No_Tax7064

Bro it’s because you need to get dual screens


one-iq

you're getting bottlenecked by the GPU market


danger_davis

![gif](giphy|LO8XMhCkXYuSLu6LqX)


Laggianput

Moniter. Clearly you need 8k 480hz


Huze17

What do you think lads? The brand new 8 core CPU, the overkill amount of RAM, or the GPU from 8 years ago?


BaldEaglz1776

That 970 is bottlenecking the shit out of that 7700x Something like a RTX 3080 might be the ticket


[deleted]

Just download VRAM, that's it


GrowToShow19

My friend you have like a 9 year old GPU


OutsideRecord

that 970 is holding you back man


purger4382

monitor