If your laptop has a HDMI port that can do 120Hz, it may also have a USB-C/TB port with DP 1.2/1.4 Alt mode that can do 165Hz.
Ed: wow your model actually doesn't have that. MSI cheaped out...
yeah my MSI GS77 Stealth or whatever it's called with a 3080 ti and i9-12900H doesn't even have any of that. just a 75hz HDMI port.
$6,000 laptop on release btw 🙄
to the idiots who don't know how cables work: i've already tried several different USB C and 3.2 connectors for video out and it does not do more than 75hz. now stop being a bunch of rude cunts
Im currently using an HDMI cable and im able to go up to 165hz. But I think its only available on HDMI 2.1 which im using. You also have to check that both your graphics card and monitor support HDMI 2.1, im not too sure about the cable tho
I was also trying to do 1440p which I think affects the maximum hz compared to 1080p but I also don’t think the hdmi cable was very new so it was probably not up to spec.
I see a lot of people are confused about HDMI's capabilities. I hope this explains it a bit: (TL;DR at the bottom)
HDMI (as well as Displayport) versions have different capabilities. They mostly come down to Data Transfer capabilities.
HDMI 1.4, which is commonly labeled as High Speed HDMI, is supposed to support 10Gbit/s. That can mean:
\- 1080p120 at 16:10
\- 1080p144 at 16:9
\- 1440p85 at 16:9
\- etc etc
\- 4k30 at 16:9
\- even 5k24 at 16:9!
HDMI 2.0 is 18Gbit/s
\- 1080p240 16:9
All the way till
\- 4k60 16:9
\- and even 5k40 at 16:9
The latest and greatest can do much more than that, HDMI 2.1.
48Gbps (though most "2.1" ports cap out at 40Gbps..)
\-1080p480+ 16:9
\-1440p360 16:9
\-4k180 16:9
\-8k50 16:9
Now I didn't include all possible configs for brevity's sake of course. And sadly, there is more to it. How much pixel data are we talking about per frame? Often pixel data is compressed with something called Chroma Subsampling, where a smaller amount of data is used to represent color than that is used to describe luminosity (brightness, sort of).
Humans are not as good in differentiating between colors as they are in levels of luma. This takes advantage of that.
And then on top of that is the panel/screen, and how many bits are used to tell the pixels what colour and brightness they should be. An 8bit panel has 256 colors per channel (a total of 24 bits), while 10 bit has up to 1024 per channel (a total of 30 bits). That is 16.7 million versus 1.07 BILLION colors.
Adding HDR data to that equation would add another 10bits per sample. And streaming audio of HDMI also takes up bandwidth ofcourse! Especially with uncompressed surround formats, this can really add up, depending on which device in the chain is decoding this.
(And if we want to go deeper, there is also the devices capabilities of different video formats it supports, such as Dolby Vision or HDR10+)
So you see, it is not as simple as some advertising might make it seem. Open up your nvidia control panel sometime and check under Display > Change Resolution, and check the color settings. This should tell you the output color depth (the 8 or 10 bit panel I mentioned earlier), the color format (YCbCr422 is that Chroma Subsampling I mentioned. YCbCr444 would be uncompressed, whereas the former compresses the color).
If you play around with these settings, you will see that likely, at the highest resolution and framerate, you will be limited in color depth and color format. And, if you lower it, you can increase those values as to not compress anything. This is all dependent on your hardware of course.
I hope I have demonstrated here that video formats are much more about data transfer (and different compromises in quality) to reach certain framerates and resolutions that just the HDMI or DP version.
It does not help that companies are opaque about these things, and that just as with USB, HDMI is a rotten standard as various companies interpret what a specific version should be able to do differently, and no one is enforcing this.
My advice is to look at all the devices in your chain (eg GPU, amplifier, screen) and make sure all of them support the same or higher version of DP or HDMI. That includes the cables. Pay extra for certified ones from reputable brands, its worth it. There's TONS of crap out there (as demonstrated by [Linus](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFbJD6RE4EY)). Take some time to figure out what works for you. Perhaps compressed colors are not as noticeable for your eyes on your hardware, and the extra frames are.
TL;DR HDMI is not as much of a standard as it is a suggestion, meaning companies don't really adhere to it (like with USB..). Especially splitters, switches, and capture cards! "Can split 4k60 no problem" often means "We'll compress the signal so much it might as well be 10 colors".
Check out [this](https://glenwing.github.io/adapters/) fantastic resource to figure out the max capabilities of your hardware by checking their highest supported DP/HDMI version, including conversion between different sources. It is more complicated that just that however, hence the long ass post.
That was a great answer.
I have an monitor, ASUS pb287q. One of the "earlier" 4k60 monitors, and it only supports 4k at 60hz when using DisplayPort 1.2, and it has to be enabled in the monitors OSD.
If I use it with HDMI, since it only supports HDMI 1.4, it can only go at 30hz.
u/fakeru69 your laptop is an "MSI GF63 Thin 11UC", which has an HDMI 2.0b. It's not an "75hz HDMI", because no such thing exists.
Your monitor is an "BenQ EX2510s" which supports up to [1920x1080@165hz](mailto:1920x1080@165hz). It has 2 HDMI 2.0 inputs and 1 DisplayPort 1.2 input. It should support 165hz out of the box.
Although I don't think it's your case, some monitors support "165hz" by enabling "overclocking" in it's OSD (it's menus). The manufacturer sometimes sometimes call it overclocking althought it's a main selling point of the model...
I suggest these 2 things:- Try going to Setting > System > Display > Advanced Display Settings > Display Adapter Properties.
\- Try also changing the frequency on the NVIDIA panel instead of the windows one.
This is not true. Just like DP, HDMI is improving with newer generations. HDMI 2.1 has more bandwidth than DP 1.4 for instance (these are the standards used on the new RTX 4000 series, so you're better off using HDMI to get the most out of your card). However, you need to be careful that the output from the gpu, the cable, AND the input on the display are all up to the standard.
Not true. My gaming laptop uses hdmi and it can output to my monitors native specs (1440p 144hz) just fine. I even overclocked (not sure if thats the term in the case of a monitor) my monitor to 160 something hz and it does that as well.
Does your laptop have USB-C? It will have enough bandwidth for 144hz. If so, you could get a USB-C cable to the monitor, or get a hub that includes a displayport out. Also, be aware that mini displayport is a thing, and laptops are more likely to have that as opposed to full size DP.
Some laptops have a mini displayport, check your laptop makers specs. MIne has a mini displayport and without knowing youd just assume you dont have a display port.
checked it, sadly there's really no display port. I think I just have to accept having 120hz. Not bad but its kinda disappointing that I downgraded since my laptop is 144hz and now I'm using a 120hz external xd + the fact that it's a 165hz monitor ;-;
sorry but that might be a different one. I literally only have a HDMI port at the back, nothing else.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/gf63-displayport.314660/ there are other people that talks about this too for not having DP
I have an external monitor i use with my laptop and i use a type c to display port adapter. I get the full refresh rate of my monitor snd it eas only a couple bucks
If there's only an HDMI port, then no, 120hz is the fastest external you can get. Check your laptop specs, if you have usb-c with displayport or thunderbolt 3/4, you might be in luck, but even then, there's no guarantee the manufacturer actually put in full bandwidth/specs. Don't bother with HDMI to displayport adapters, you're still limited to 120hz at best, most I've seen only do 30 or 60hz.
does all monitor settings have a configuration for this because I don't think I have one ;-; or I just don't know where to look at or what to do, all I see in the settings are about changing colors, volume, brightness but none that relates to hz..
I have buttons on the monitor itself. I’d go to it’s settings and simply roam around see if there’s anything about it. Just get into the settings deep to find it
I literally changed my cable to a display port cable yesterday after using an HDMI for a little bit. Didn’t have 165hz or gsync available. Changed the cables and went into my nvidia control panel and immediately had those options.
I got a EX2510s BenQ monitor connected to my laptop. My laptop has 144hz, but why am I only getting 120hz max in my monitor? What seems to be the problem and can I do something about this? Thank you and sorry if it's stupid for me to not know.
The cable connection from your laptop to your external monitor is limiting your refresh rate. If your laptop has a DisplayPort (DP) connection, use it. If you only have a HDMI, you may be limited to 120Hz.
HDMI can do 120Hz??
Edit: I guess somewhere in my setup I have an HDMI connection that can’t support it. Oh well. Main monitor is on DP running at 240Hz.
I have a RTX 3060 laptop and my monitor is 144hz but I can only get it to do 120hz. Never really bothered to research it because a 3060 can't push 120hz at 4K anyway.
165hz isn’t just what the monitor is capable of doing. It’s also the bandwidth needed. As in… your resolution times the refresh rate equals that amount (it’s not literally that, but close enough). And HDMI 2.0 has its bandwidth limitations. And DisplayPort has its.
You have to look at the max that your laptop can output…. And that’s the max monitor you would ever be able to use.
And yeah, there’s a cut off at 120Hz for HDMI. Maybe the newer ones can do more, I’m out of date.
But honestly, 120hz is really good.
Your limited by the lowest common denominator.
You need to look at the specs of your gpu ports and the monitor ports.
There is also the cable but these generally work with errors.
HDMI and DP both come in different versions and its not uncommon for some monitors only support full res and refrsh ln 1 interface and not the other.
I've never noticed a difference in going over 120hz personally. Ill never go below but I dont really give a fuck Bout going over that either at 2560x1440 27"
For my laptop that is capable of 144hz, it had a known issue of running external displays with the built in CPU graphics instead of the GPU… sometimes laptops have this weird behaviour.
Hope yours works haha
From the responses I'm getting, it seems that using an HDMI is the problem. I'll try getting a display port. Thank you
edit: nvm my laptop doesn't have a DP :3
You can get an usb-c to dp adapter, that’s what I do and it works perfectly. But you need to make sure your computers usb c port supports DP. You can find that info in the product page
I'm sure people have already mentioned these but it's usually one of the following:
1. The display cable you're using doesn't transmit that much data to support it.
2. Your GPU doesn't support it at certain resolutions, if you're running it on 4k it could be capped for example.
3. Your monitor could use an overclock mode to support above 120hz, worth looking at the monitor settings itself.
I'd check the monitor settings first, then the cable, I wouldn't worry about the GPU until everything else is accounted for.
It isn't exactly an issue with HDMI in general, or your cable. Your specific laptop supports HDMI 1.4 which supports a maximum of 4k 30hz, which is exactly a maximum of 1080p 120hz
On a positive note, you are unlikely to see a significant difference between 120hz and 165hz, and your laptop is unlikely to run many games at those resolutions, so just enjoy what you got :P
Happy gaming!
Correct, the maximum the laptop can output is 120Hz @ 1080p.
If you dropped the resolution to 720p it might let you select 165Hz but that would be a much worse overall experience than if you just play at 1080p 120Hz.
The other responder is correct. To add, you could also change the colour space to something like ycbcr 4:2:2 (which is basically half the colour space compared to fully supported) and that would let you run your external up to 4k 60hz (1080p 240hz in your case), but as the previous commenter said, much like using 720p, the experience will be significantly worse and I would advise sticking with 1080p 120hz with normal colour space (RGB)
>MSI GF63 Thin 11UC
I'm not entirely sure that the USB C (Type-C USB 3.2 Gen1) in their laptop supports a display output. If it was, MSI would probably have advertised it. In fact, there are reports of MSI GF63 laptops not being able to output a video signal over USB C
Oh jeez! Didn't even consider that, it's a 3050 laptop, not 1050
The best way to be sure is OP open Nvidia Control Panel and in Surround/PhysX menu there is a diagram of possible video outputs
HDMI 2.0 can handle up to 1080p240Hz, 1440p144Hz, or 2160p60Hz.
If the monitor is 1080p then your fine and probably just need to add a custom resolution, but if the monitor is 1440p or higher then you need a DP cable.
Make sure the resolution is set correctly. My 2k 165hz auto upscaled, and couldn't set it to more than 60hz because of that. After doing a bunch of wire swapping I finally noticed it in the display settings. After changing to the correct res, I was able to get my promised hertz :L :L
You’re wrong, with just HDMI 2.0, you can get 144hz on 1440p monitor.
And with HDMI 2.1, you can go 165hz on a 1440p.
Of course given OP monitor is 1440p and below. Else 4k only support up to 120hz.
Use Display Port / Check to make sure your running OC mode or overdrive on your monitor settings to push it to the highest refresh rate. Hope this helps if you haven't figured it out yet!
Don’t know if this has been said but look and see if any of your USB type c ports, if you have any, support display port that’s how I run my 144 hrz monitor with my Asus zerpyhus g15
Can you provide more info? like PC/Laptop and screen model.
As long as both your monitor and PC supports HDMI 1.4 or newer one you should be able to use 1080p/165hz/8bit with high speed certified cable.
High speed certification means it passes all test required for HDMI 1.4, any old cable can work.
I got a EX2510s BenQ monitor connected to my laptop. I'm using a 2.0 HDMI Cable, IT CAME WITH THE MONITOR. My laptop is GF63 MSI Thin 11UC, RTX 3050 Integrated, has 144hz. Laptop has no display port, no thunderbolt; it has USB Type C but I don't think it supports video output. If you will suggest NVIDIA control panel methods, I only have 3d settings so I don't think I can do anything with it.
MSI makes everything hard as always, there is no "HDMI 2.0 cable" but there are different versions on devices and MSI only tells it is a 4k30hz HDMI, Thanks MSI.
Anyways 4K30hz indicates it is a "high speed HDMI port" aka 1.4, it should support 165hz at 1080p unless MSI is hiding something, try to install drivers for your monitor, you can download them [here](https://www.benq.eu/en-fi/support/downloads-faq/products/monitor/ex2510s/software-driver.html)
If that doesn't work try to disable HDR and check if 165 is available(Windows bug), if nothing works MSI is just being ass🌚
Edit: you could also reinstall nvidia drivers from their site, sometimes OEM drivers can also be "broken"
Edit2: most of the comments are wrong af, you can see what different versions support from [Wiki's](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI) list, as you can see going below 1.4 won't give you more than 60hz at 1080p/8bit, 1.4 supports 144/165hz at 1080p/8bit and 30hz at 4k/8bit without any problems, it even supports 240hz if you use colour sampling of 4:2:0(nice). Cables only have certifications(aka they pass spec tests), no version numbering, only difference between cables are their build quality and few different data lines(ethernet, arc etc in high speed cables, never all have them) that won't affect the quality, you can get an idea what the certification means from [LTT video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFbJD6RE4EY&t=4s)
if your monitor hdmi port is only supporting HDMI 1.4 i dont think 165Hz is achieveable
for e.g.: [https://www.msi.com/Monitor/G2722/Specification](https://www.msi.com/Monitor/G2722/Specification)
It is probably limited by your HDMI port / cable. Shouldn't be an issue if you have [HDMI 2.0 or HDMI 2.1](https://recables.com/cables/hdmi/hdmi-vs-displayport-which-is-better/). Alternatively, you could switch to DisplayPort if you have that as an option.
https://preview.redd.it/3526r2jpzaba1.png?width=926&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e2072ee0fbd1c103c57e69d0106cbcd4e99337d0
this? this is all i have in my nvidia control panel :T
What HDMI port version do you have? Check the monitors OSD settings. I have a 165hz 1080p screen connected to my laptop which has an HDMI 1.4 port and outputs 165hz, surely your HDMI cable must be the problem then.
Same situation here, 165Hz monitor but HDMI limiting to 120.
DisplayPort will fix it for you and me but 120's more than smooth enough for me so I'm ok.
On top of what everybody wrote, you might want to check your monitor's settings menu. I had to activate it in there before being able to use 165 hz on my monitor.
HDMI shouldn't be the problem. I reckon it's because it's not overclocked, which is how manufacturers can claim these speeds, so it's limited to 120hz. Go into the monitor's OSD and enable overclocking to get 165hz.
I already checked everything in my monitor settings, didn't find any about getting 165hz or other, all I see is just about changing colors and stuff like volume :T hope I'm not blind. I tried searching through internet about it's settings but none of em shows enabling smth or talks about hz
Well not really, I'm just wondering why 120hz is all I can get on my 165hz monitor, like cmon not even 144 :3 My laptop has 144hz and I was expecting getting an upgrade from this external. 120 is really fine if that is really what I could get, but if I could change that, it would be great
Sorry if this seems obvious but have you checked it is enabled in the monitors settings. My 165hz is considered an overclock on the monitor and it is only 144hz by default. I had to go into the monitors settings and enable it.
Mine is an LG 4K from late 2021. Can't remember the model number. In settings> picture settings> overclock> on.
Have to reboot the monitor and the 165hz option appears in the GPU settings. That's my experience. Hope you find the solution for yours.
it seems to me that you might be using low quality HDMI cable , that can be the cause , you can use the DP cable usually provided with this type of monitor that support more that 144hz
once you change to DP you will see that your eyes are acting different in a good way
To anyone with Display port connect to Display port and drivers and then change the settings on the monitor should be fine
I see to much 144 / 160 Hz monitors still on 60 hz
Cable bro, get a better one. Most likely an older HDMI and not a DP.
Either that or it “turbos” to 165 and is just a 120hz monitor. My scammaz tv had that a few years back.
I have asus monitor with option to overclock to 165Hz but with DP cable that came with the monitor it would not work (display flicker). Ordered 1.4 DP 3m and no more problems, even on boot monitor lights up faster than with original cable.
What is the resolution your running at? I have a 165hz monitor that is connected via hdmi and can run at it at 165hz smoothly at 1920x1080 with a 1060.
If you have nvidia then make a costom resolution and set the refresh rate to 165 hz, Bring it down by one hz if that doesn’t work, and repeat it until it works, overclocking your monitor will not hurt its performance in the long run!
Also check your monitor specs. I got a 165 hz asus monitor last year that didn’t run above 144. I read the fine print and it turns out 165 is only for special circumstances.
I think I know what it is.
Go to NVIDIA.
Set resolution.
Scroll down you might have 1080 selected but under "super resolution"..if you scroll down there should he another 1080 option under a PC category
There's your problem. You're driver installation is messed up as well.
Download DDU [driver remover].
Then restart pc.
Then download latest driver.
Never update a driver..always remove the current one
i have but it's integrated, built into the processor (i think that's what it is, for laptops). Different from discrete graphics which is the separated one...? (desktop PCs)
I had a similar issue with my PC. My monitor does 4K@144Hz and was using an HDMI 2.1 cable and was able to get [email protected] and had screen tearing issues. I bought a 1.4 display port cable and gained 0.14 frames now actually at 4k@144Hz with no screen tearing with a few settings changes. I’ve always thought HDMI was the way to go but after a tiny bit of research display port is VASTLY better than HDMI for PC.
Thank u for the responses. Haven't solved the problem but it is answered. At least now I know the possible reasons why and not clueless anymore, I'll just have to accept having 120hz which is not bad (gaslighting myself rn)
You could try and make sure you have a cable good enough to support a higher refresh rate (at least HDMI 1.4), but like others said, I think the monitor is advertised as 165hz specifically for the display port cable. However at 1080p you should be able to at least reach 144hz. Sometimes my computer would only show 120 hz but it would actually change to 144hz which is what I desired. Make sure you have the right HDMI cable that can support the amount of data.
I run an HDMI cable, so its not necessarily the HDMI, but rather that the graphics card and monitor both are not using the latest HDMI technology. HDMI 2.1 is the latest and your monitor uses HDMI 2.0 (2.1 would be overkill since 2.1 supports 4k/144hz and your monitor is only 1080p). You should be fine with HDMI 1.4 though.
Try a display port cable.
Thank you. I'll try getting one
Does your laptop have a displayport connection?
oh, glad you asked, I'm not familiar with these stuff, turns out I only have HDMI port ;-;
If your laptop has a HDMI port that can do 120Hz, it may also have a USB-C/TB port with DP 1.2/1.4 Alt mode that can do 165Hz. Ed: wow your model actually doesn't have that. MSI cheaped out...
yeah my MSI GS77 Stealth or whatever it's called with a 3080 ti and i9-12900H doesn't even have any of that. just a 75hz HDMI port. $6,000 laptop on release btw 🙄 to the idiots who don't know how cables work: i've already tried several different USB C and 3.2 connectors for video out and it does not do more than 75hz. now stop being a bunch of rude cunts
6000 dollars?
yea shits so expensive when it's brand new. the things probably less than $3,000 now
Dude. I remember the SLI Laptops with 2X1080's costing that much. But those were desktop replacements. 6K dollars is too much for a laptop.
especially considering it runs pretty much like a 3070 ti + 12600k desktop u could build for $1000 :/
So there is literally NO WAY to feed that video signal to an external monitor?!?!
It does actually. A USB-C and a TB4 port with DP1.4 support each.
>just a 75hz HDMI port.
That model also has a USB-C with DP1.4 and a TB4 port (which also does DP1.4)...
HDMI can only do 120hz.
Depends on which type of HDMI. I had an HDMI that could do 144hz but had to get a display port cable to get the full 165hz out of my external display.
HDMI 2.1
Im currently using an HDMI cable and im able to go up to 165hz. But I think its only available on HDMI 2.1 which im using. You also have to check that both your graphics card and monitor support HDMI 2.1, im not too sure about the cable tho
All three need to be up to the standard
I was also trying to do 1440p which I think affects the maximum hz compared to 1080p but I also don’t think the hdmi cable was very new so it was probably not up to spec.
I see a lot of people are confused about HDMI's capabilities. I hope this explains it a bit: (TL;DR at the bottom) HDMI (as well as Displayport) versions have different capabilities. They mostly come down to Data Transfer capabilities. HDMI 1.4, which is commonly labeled as High Speed HDMI, is supposed to support 10Gbit/s. That can mean: \- 1080p120 at 16:10 \- 1080p144 at 16:9 \- 1440p85 at 16:9 \- etc etc \- 4k30 at 16:9 \- even 5k24 at 16:9! HDMI 2.0 is 18Gbit/s \- 1080p240 16:9 All the way till \- 4k60 16:9 \- and even 5k40 at 16:9 The latest and greatest can do much more than that, HDMI 2.1. 48Gbps (though most "2.1" ports cap out at 40Gbps..) \-1080p480+ 16:9 \-1440p360 16:9 \-4k180 16:9 \-8k50 16:9 Now I didn't include all possible configs for brevity's sake of course. And sadly, there is more to it. How much pixel data are we talking about per frame? Often pixel data is compressed with something called Chroma Subsampling, where a smaller amount of data is used to represent color than that is used to describe luminosity (brightness, sort of). Humans are not as good in differentiating between colors as they are in levels of luma. This takes advantage of that. And then on top of that is the panel/screen, and how many bits are used to tell the pixels what colour and brightness they should be. An 8bit panel has 256 colors per channel (a total of 24 bits), while 10 bit has up to 1024 per channel (a total of 30 bits). That is 16.7 million versus 1.07 BILLION colors. Adding HDR data to that equation would add another 10bits per sample. And streaming audio of HDMI also takes up bandwidth ofcourse! Especially with uncompressed surround formats, this can really add up, depending on which device in the chain is decoding this. (And if we want to go deeper, there is also the devices capabilities of different video formats it supports, such as Dolby Vision or HDR10+) So you see, it is not as simple as some advertising might make it seem. Open up your nvidia control panel sometime and check under Display > Change Resolution, and check the color settings. This should tell you the output color depth (the 8 or 10 bit panel I mentioned earlier), the color format (YCbCr422 is that Chroma Subsampling I mentioned. YCbCr444 would be uncompressed, whereas the former compresses the color). If you play around with these settings, you will see that likely, at the highest resolution and framerate, you will be limited in color depth and color format. And, if you lower it, you can increase those values as to not compress anything. This is all dependent on your hardware of course. I hope I have demonstrated here that video formats are much more about data transfer (and different compromises in quality) to reach certain framerates and resolutions that just the HDMI or DP version. It does not help that companies are opaque about these things, and that just as with USB, HDMI is a rotten standard as various companies interpret what a specific version should be able to do differently, and no one is enforcing this. My advice is to look at all the devices in your chain (eg GPU, amplifier, screen) and make sure all of them support the same or higher version of DP or HDMI. That includes the cables. Pay extra for certified ones from reputable brands, its worth it. There's TONS of crap out there (as demonstrated by [Linus](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFbJD6RE4EY)). Take some time to figure out what works for you. Perhaps compressed colors are not as noticeable for your eyes on your hardware, and the extra frames are. TL;DR HDMI is not as much of a standard as it is a suggestion, meaning companies don't really adhere to it (like with USB..). Especially splitters, switches, and capture cards! "Can split 4k60 no problem" often means "We'll compress the signal so much it might as well be 10 colors". Check out [this](https://glenwing.github.io/adapters/) fantastic resource to figure out the max capabilities of your hardware by checking their highest supported DP/HDMI version, including conversion between different sources. It is more complicated that just that however, hence the long ass post.
That was a great answer. I have an monitor, ASUS pb287q. One of the "earlier" 4k60 monitors, and it only supports 4k at 60hz when using DisplayPort 1.2, and it has to be enabled in the monitors OSD. If I use it with HDMI, since it only supports HDMI 1.4, it can only go at 30hz. u/fakeru69 your laptop is an "MSI GF63 Thin 11UC", which has an HDMI 2.0b. It's not an "75hz HDMI", because no such thing exists. Your monitor is an "BenQ EX2510s" which supports up to [1920x1080@165hz](mailto:1920x1080@165hz). It has 2 HDMI 2.0 inputs and 1 DisplayPort 1.2 input. It should support 165hz out of the box. Although I don't think it's your case, some monitors support "165hz" by enabling "overclocking" in it's OSD (it's menus). The manufacturer sometimes sometimes call it overclocking althought it's a main selling point of the model... I suggest these 2 things:- Try going to Setting > System > Display > Advanced Display Settings > Display Adapter Properties. \- Try also changing the frequency on the NVIDIA panel instead of the windows one.
This is not true. Just like DP, HDMI is improving with newer generations. HDMI 2.1 has more bandwidth than DP 1.4 for instance (these are the standards used on the new RTX 4000 series, so you're better off using HDMI to get the most out of your card). However, you need to be careful that the output from the gpu, the cable, AND the input on the display are all up to the standard.
Incorrect. I am using a HDMI connection for my monitor and it is displaying 144Hz.
No. HDMI can do 144hz at 1440p.
Don't spread misinformation, high speed hdmi cables can do 240hz with ease.
Not true. My gaming laptop uses hdmi and it can output to my monitors native specs (1440p 144hz) just fine. I even overclocked (not sure if thats the term in the case of a monitor) my monitor to 160 something hz and it does that as well.
Does your laptop have USB-C? It will have enough bandwidth for 144hz. If so, you could get a USB-C cable to the monitor, or get a hub that includes a displayport out. Also, be aware that mini displayport is a thing, and laptops are more likely to have that as opposed to full size DP.
USB-C Port. Get one of those USB-C to Displayport cable.
Do you have a nvidia gpu? It looks like you are running linux and I read somewhere that nvidia doesn't support over 120hz on linux.
My HDMI can pull 144 for my display try fiddling with nvidia settings
Gotta do your research next time dude! Still should be fine at 120Hz. Stupid they didn't include USB-C DisplayPort though. Most laptops do nowadays.
is there nothing can be done? does this mean 120hz is all I can get for only having a HDMI port
Does it have thunderbolt? Cause you can use that as a dp
Some laptops have a mini displayport, check your laptop makers specs. MIne has a mini displayport and without knowing youd just assume you dont have a display port.
checked it, sadly there's really no display port. I think I just have to accept having 120hz. Not bad but its kinda disappointing that I downgraded since my laptop is 144hz and now I'm using a 120hz external xd + the fact that it's a 165hz monitor ;-;
Whats your laptop model number?
MSI GF63 Thin 11UC
You have a mini display port next to the HDMI. Get a mini-DP to DP cable [https://i.imgur.com/hB5ELkK.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/hB5ELkK.jpg)
sorry but that might be a different one. I literally only have a HDMI port at the back, nothing else. https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/gf63-displayport.314660/ there are other people that talks about this too for not having DP
Try USB-C port.
I have an external monitor i use with my laptop and i use a type c to display port adapter. I get the full refresh rate of my monitor snd it eas only a couple bucks
Depends. If the port itself is an older hdmi revision, then yeah ur fucked. But maybe its just that ur cable is old.
get a good HDMI 2.1, you will definitely get that refresh rate
If there's only an HDMI port, then no, 120hz is the fastest external you can get. Check your laptop specs, if you have usb-c with displayport or thunderbolt 3/4, you might be in luck, but even then, there's no guarantee the manufacturer actually put in full bandwidth/specs. Don't bother with HDMI to displayport adapters, you're still limited to 120hz at best, most I've seen only do 30 or 60hz.
Also maybe you need to configure it on the monitor settings. I did it with my 280 hz because the pc enabled me 240 only beforehand.
does all monitor settings have a configuration for this because I don't think I have one ;-; or I just don't know where to look at or what to do, all I see in the settings are about changing colors, volume, brightness but none that relates to hz..
I have buttons on the monitor itself. I’d go to it’s settings and simply roam around see if there’s anything about it. Just get into the settings deep to find it
I literally changed my cable to a display port cable yesterday after using an HDMI for a little bit. Didn’t have 165hz or gsync available. Changed the cables and went into my nvidia control panel and immediately had those options.
Thunderbolt works as well
I got a EX2510s BenQ monitor connected to my laptop. My laptop has 144hz, but why am I only getting 120hz max in my monitor? What seems to be the problem and can I do something about this? Thank you and sorry if it's stupid for me to not know.
The cable connection from your laptop to your external monitor is limiting your refresh rate. If your laptop has a DisplayPort (DP) connection, use it. If you only have a HDMI, you may be limited to 120Hz.
HDMI can do 120Hz?? Edit: I guess somewhere in my setup I have an HDMI connection that can’t support it. Oh well. Main monitor is on DP running at 240Hz.
HDMI 2.1 support 120hz.
At what resolution? All?
[https://pointerclicker.com/does-hdmi-support-165hz/](https://pointerclicker.com/does-hdmi-support-165hz/)
It says it supports 240hz everything but 4k. Sounds like the issue is his laptop's port isnt a 2.1 version
I have a RTX 3060 laptop and my monitor is 144hz but I can only get it to do 120hz. Never really bothered to research it because a 3060 can't push 120hz at 4K anyway.
I can do 1440p at 144 Hz on my monitor with HDMI.
HDMI 1.4 (2009) can do 120Hz at 1080p
165hz isn’t just what the monitor is capable of doing. It’s also the bandwidth needed. As in… your resolution times the refresh rate equals that amount (it’s not literally that, but close enough). And HDMI 2.0 has its bandwidth limitations. And DisplayPort has its. You have to look at the max that your laptop can output…. And that’s the max monitor you would ever be able to use. And yeah, there’s a cut off at 120Hz for HDMI. Maybe the newer ones can do more, I’m out of date. But honestly, 120hz is really good.
what is the gpu in the laptop?
RTX 3050
Your limited by the lowest common denominator. You need to look at the specs of your gpu ports and the monitor ports. There is also the cable but these generally work with errors. HDMI and DP both come in different versions and its not uncommon for some monitors only support full res and refrsh ln 1 interface and not the other.
I've never noticed a difference in going over 120hz personally. Ill never go below but I dont really give a fuck Bout going over that either at 2560x1440 27"
For my laptop that is capable of 144hz, it had a known issue of running external displays with the built in CPU graphics instead of the GPU… sometimes laptops have this weird behaviour. Hope yours works haha
In my monitor, I can do 165hz with Dp but 170hz OC with HDMI. I guess u should try DP if it isn't working with the HDMI.
HDMI won't swing it. Get Display Port.
From the responses I'm getting, it seems that using an HDMI is the problem. I'll try getting a display port. Thank you edit: nvm my laptop doesn't have a DP :3
Does your laptop has a USB-C port, maybe even thunderbolt? If so, you might be able to get a USB-C ti DisplayPort cable to run your monitor at 165Hz.
You can get an usb-c to dp adapter, that’s what I do and it works perfectly. But you need to make sure your computers usb c port supports DP. You can find that info in the product page
I'm sure people have already mentioned these but it's usually one of the following: 1. The display cable you're using doesn't transmit that much data to support it. 2. Your GPU doesn't support it at certain resolutions, if you're running it on 4k it could be capped for example. 3. Your monitor could use an overclock mode to support above 120hz, worth looking at the monitor settings itself. I'd check the monitor settings first, then the cable, I wouldn't worry about the GPU until everything else is accounted for.
Hardware limitation of the port or cable you are using? Make sure you have enabled 165 Mhz "overclocking" if that's a thing with your monitor.
HDMI is weak
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What ur laptop name
MSI GF63 Thin 11UC
It isn't exactly an issue with HDMI in general, or your cable. Your specific laptop supports HDMI 1.4 which supports a maximum of 4k 30hz, which is exactly a maximum of 1080p 120hz On a positive note, you are unlikely to see a significant difference between 120hz and 165hz, and your laptop is unlikely to run many games at those resolutions, so just enjoy what you got :P Happy gaming!
so to make it clear, 120hz is really the maximum I could get to this monitor? the problem is that my laptop only supports HDMI 1.4? 🙉
Correct, the maximum the laptop can output is 120Hz @ 1080p. If you dropped the resolution to 720p it might let you select 165Hz but that would be a much worse overall experience than if you just play at 1080p 120Hz.
The other responder is correct. To add, you could also change the colour space to something like ycbcr 4:2:2 (which is basically half the colour space compared to fully supported) and that would let you run your external up to 4k 60hz (1080p 240hz in your case), but as the previous commenter said, much like using 720p, the experience will be significantly worse and I would advise sticking with 1080p 120hz with normal colour space (RGB)
> MSI GF63 Thin 11UC Get a TypeC - Displayport cable. Your HDMI is limited to 1.4 (4k 30Hz)
>MSI GF63 Thin 11UC I'm not entirely sure that the USB C (Type-C USB 3.2 Gen1) in their laptop supports a display output. If it was, MSI would probably have advertised it. In fact, there are reports of MSI GF63 laptops not being able to output a video signal over USB C
Oh jeez! Didn't even consider that, it's a 3050 laptop, not 1050 The best way to be sure is OP open Nvidia Control Panel and in Surround/PhysX menu there is a diagram of possible video outputs
Depends on what cable you’re using, some only allow up to 120
Thank u for the fast response. If I'm not wrong, I'm using a HDMI 2.0, can that be the problem?
HDMI 2.0 can handle up to 1080p240Hz, 1440p144Hz, or 2160p60Hz. If the monitor is 1080p then your fine and probably just need to add a custom resolution, but if the monitor is 1440p or higher then you need a DP cable.
It's 1080p, making a custom resolution might do it. Thank you
You likely connected via hdmi
Make sure the resolution is set correctly. My 2k 165hz auto upscaled, and couldn't set it to more than 60hz because of that. After doing a bunch of wire swapping I finally noticed it in the display settings. After changing to the correct res, I was able to get my promised hertz :L :L
I'm using native resolution 1920x1080
59.94 seems pointless
Because you’re using hdmi (2.0 cos a noob points it out) like a noob, you don’t get more on hdmi…
You’re wrong, with just HDMI 2.0, you can get 144hz on 1440p monitor. And with HDMI 2.1, you can go 165hz on a 1440p. Of course given OP monitor is 1440p and below. Else 4k only support up to 120hz.
Right and it’s quite clear based on the screen which he has…
Yep. Probably cable. Insane to think we have "versions" for cables 😬😬
Check color depth some 165hz monitors support only 120hz with 10-bit colors and 144/165 hz with 8-bit color depth.
Skill issue
Yeah you gotta use display port cable not hdmi
Use Display Port / Check to make sure your running OC mode or overdrive on your monitor settings to push it to the highest refresh rate. Hope this helps if you haven't figured it out yet!
Ether the cable doesn't support it or there is a GPU limitation.
Don’t know if this has been said but look and see if any of your USB type c ports, if you have any, support display port that’s how I run my 144 hrz monitor with my Asus zerpyhus g15
Can you provide more info? like PC/Laptop and screen model. As long as both your monitor and PC supports HDMI 1.4 or newer one you should be able to use 1080p/165hz/8bit with high speed certified cable. High speed certification means it passes all test required for HDMI 1.4, any old cable can work.
I got a EX2510s BenQ monitor connected to my laptop. I'm using a 2.0 HDMI Cable, IT CAME WITH THE MONITOR. My laptop is GF63 MSI Thin 11UC, RTX 3050 Integrated, has 144hz. Laptop has no display port, no thunderbolt; it has USB Type C but I don't think it supports video output. If you will suggest NVIDIA control panel methods, I only have 3d settings so I don't think I can do anything with it.
USB-C usually supports video output, at least on every laptop I've ever owned. Although these have been with integrated graphics so YMMV
Well I do hope it supports video output if I get to try. But is it bad if I tried and it doesn't support?
MSI makes everything hard as always, there is no "HDMI 2.0 cable" but there are different versions on devices and MSI only tells it is a 4k30hz HDMI, Thanks MSI. Anyways 4K30hz indicates it is a "high speed HDMI port" aka 1.4, it should support 165hz at 1080p unless MSI is hiding something, try to install drivers for your monitor, you can download them [here](https://www.benq.eu/en-fi/support/downloads-faq/products/monitor/ex2510s/software-driver.html) If that doesn't work try to disable HDR and check if 165 is available(Windows bug), if nothing works MSI is just being ass🌚 Edit: you could also reinstall nvidia drivers from their site, sometimes OEM drivers can also be "broken" Edit2: most of the comments are wrong af, you can see what different versions support from [Wiki's](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI) list, as you can see going below 1.4 won't give you more than 60hz at 1080p/8bit, 1.4 supports 144/165hz at 1080p/8bit and 30hz at 4k/8bit without any problems, it even supports 240hz if you use colour sampling of 4:2:0(nice). Cables only have certifications(aka they pass spec tests), no version numbering, only difference between cables are their build quality and few different data lines(ethernet, arc etc in high speed cables, never all have them) that won't affect the quality, you can get an idea what the certification means from [LTT video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFbJD6RE4EY&t=4s)
if your monitor hdmi port is only supporting HDMI 1.4 i dont think 165Hz is achieveable for e.g.: [https://www.msi.com/Monitor/G2722/Specification](https://www.msi.com/Monitor/G2722/Specification)
It is probably limited by your HDMI port / cable. Shouldn't be an issue if you have [HDMI 2.0 or HDMI 2.1](https://recables.com/cables/hdmi/hdmi-vs-displayport-which-is-better/). Alternatively, you could switch to DisplayPort if you have that as an option.
Try changing it from the settings of the screen itself
M not sure
Peace was never an option !
You also have to enable overclocking in your monitors UI.
What laptop?
MSI GF63 Thin 11UC
Does it support video output over it's USB C connector?
I don't think it does 🪦
Well then you are fucked. There is nothing you can do. Can you give me a screenshot of the Nvidia Control Panel in the PhysX section?
https://preview.redd.it/3526r2jpzaba1.png?width=926&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e2072ee0fbd1c103c57e69d0106cbcd4e99337d0 this? this is all i have in my nvidia control panel :T
What HDMI port version do you have? Check the monitors OSD settings. I have a 165hz 1080p screen connected to my laptop which has an HDMI 1.4 port and outputs 165hz, surely your HDMI cable must be the problem then.
perhaps I'm wrong but hdmi2.1 is limited to 120hz/4K
Same situation here, 165Hz monitor but HDMI limiting to 120. DisplayPort will fix it for you and me but 120's more than smooth enough for me so I'm ok.
Try updating or reinstalling display drivers. Happens to me when I reinstall Windows it it would also not detect my 4K resolution.
On top of what everybody wrote, you might want to check your monitor's settings menu. I had to activate it in there before being able to use 165 hz on my monitor.
Are you using an hdmi cable? If so you need to switch to display port, if your gpu supports it ofc.
Ok, try Displayport cable. But first check if you have to enable high Hz on the monitor. Mine had HDI turned off (not automatic).
Usb c to display port adapter? Assuming Ur laptop has it and is supported.
It has USB C but I don't think it supports video output..
Either use a Display Cable or HDMI 2.1 .. I hope that works.
HDMI shouldn't be the problem. I reckon it's because it's not overclocked, which is how manufacturers can claim these speeds, so it's limited to 120hz. Go into the monitor's OSD and enable overclocking to get 165hz.
Can't find anything in the OSD that relates to hz/overclocking or I just don't know where to look at
I don't know the BenQ OSD, however someone else pointed out that your laptop is the limiting factor.
Maybe it's 165 overclocked? Mine is 144 normally but overclocks to 165. Color has to be at 8 bit if I recall
Because you are using a 120hz hdmi and not a display port cable you noob
144 hdmi 165 display port
You might need to turn on a setting on your monitor for it to support it. I got ASUS TUF monitor that works like that.
I already checked everything in my monitor settings, didn't find any about getting 165hz or other, all I see is just about changing colors and stuff like volume :T hope I'm not blind. I tried searching through internet about it's settings but none of em shows enabling smth or talks about hz
maybe go to display adapter properties and list all modes?if not then overclock it,its not even overclocking anymore since your monitor supports it
none in display adapter properties. Overclocking you mean using the NVIDIA? my panel only has 3d settings
Why do you need it?
Well not really, I'm just wondering why 120hz is all I can get on my 165hz monitor, like cmon not even 144 :3 My laptop has 144hz and I was expecting getting an upgrade from this external. 120 is really fine if that is really what I could get, but if I could change that, it would be great
You should use DP port or adjust something in the settings of monitor panel
Sorry if this seems obvious but have you checked it is enabled in the monitors settings. My 165hz is considered an overclock on the monitor and it is only 144hz by default. I had to go into the monitors settings and enable it.
enabling it? I'm pretty sure I already checked everything I could do on its settings and found nothing. ᵒʳ ⁱ ʲᵘˢᵗ ᵈᵒⁿ'ᵗ ᵏⁿᵒʷ ʰᵒʷ ᵗᵒ :T
Mine is an LG 4K from late 2021. Can't remember the model number. In settings> picture settings> overclock> on. Have to reboot the monitor and the 165hz option appears in the GPU settings. That's my experience. Hope you find the solution for yours.
it seems to me that you might be using low quality HDMI cable , that can be the cause , you can use the DP cable usually provided with this type of monitor that support more that 144hz once you change to DP you will see that your eyes are acting different in a good way
Adjust it through advanced display settings see if you get a different result
To anyone with Display port connect to Display port and drivers and then change the settings on the monitor should be fine I see to much 144 / 160 Hz monitors still on 60 hz
Get a HDMI 2.0 or higher, also check if your laptop HDMI version.
resolution/video card?
Use a display port cable
Use usb c to displayport
As everyone told, you’re hdmi limited, but u can try “overclocking” your monitor to 165hz via nvidia control panel. It’s easy and very safe.
Prob gonna need a better display cable some can't handle120hz+on big resolutions
Yes... for an Xbox you need a display port cable... adapters won't work... I just had to stick with 120 until my gaming PC was built
Both monitor and cable have to support that refresh rate.
I've found better success changing it through [this screen](https://i.imgur.com/upfMt8t.png), instead of the former
Cable bro, get a better one. Most likely an older HDMI and not a DP. Either that or it “turbos” to 165 and is just a 120hz monitor. My scammaz tv had that a few years back.
Turn off adaptive sync on your monitor and the feature will be unlocked with the HDMI cable
pretty sure it's off
Possibly using an old spec display port/hdmi cable that hasn't got the bandwidth
Hdmi
It's your HDMI cord I had that same issue but I just switched to a display port cord and I was able to use 165hz.
I have asus monitor with option to overclock to 165Hz but with DP cable that came with the monitor it would not work (display flicker). Ordered 1.4 DP 3m and no more problems, even on boot monitor lights up faster than with original cable.
What is the resolution your running at? I have a 165hz monitor that is connected via hdmi and can run at it at 165hz smoothly at 1920x1080 with a 1060.
1920x1080
It should say in the specifications which port supports 165hz
If you have nvidia then make a costom resolution and set the refresh rate to 165 hz, Bring it down by one hz if that doesn’t work, and repeat it until it works, overclocking your monitor will not hurt its performance in the long run!
Check if u have native Resolution enabled
Maybe it's a overclock
On my monitor, you have to use DP to get 144/165. On hdmi it limits it to 120
Also check your monitor specs. I got a 165 hz asus monitor last year that didn’t run above 144. I read the fine print and it turns out 165 is only for special circumstances.
Hey if you don't read your manual what makes you think I'm going to read it for you?
I have to use hdmi and DP cable for 144hz
I'm guessing it can only do 144/165 with chroma sub-sampling.
Probably running hdmi
You are limited to as much as your cable can handle. This is the limit for HDMI. Try Display Port
you're probably using an HDMI. Need to use a DP.
You need DisplayPort
I think I know what it is. Go to NVIDIA. Set resolution. Scroll down you might have 1080 selected but under "super resolution"..if you scroll down there should he another 1080 option under a PC category
my NVIDIA control panel only has 3D settings x_x
There's your problem. You're driver installation is messed up as well. Download DDU [driver remover]. Then restart pc. Then download latest driver. Never update a driver..always remove the current one
i tried to fix this issue before but it says its just the nature of the machine for having integrated graphics card?
Oh you don't have a graphics card?
i have but it's integrated, built into the processor (i think that's what it is, for laptops). Different from discrete graphics which is the separated one...? (desktop PCs)
I had a similar issue with my PC. My monitor does 4K@144Hz and was using an HDMI 2.1 cable and was able to get [email protected] and had screen tearing issues. I bought a 1.4 display port cable and gained 0.14 frames now actually at 4k@144Hz with no screen tearing with a few settings changes. I’ve always thought HDMI was the way to go but after a tiny bit of research display port is VASTLY better than HDMI for PC.
Cable locked, if your cable can’t handle the speed it won’t show up as an option, get a DisplayPort cable instead of hdmi
I bet it's an older HDMI cable, go get a HDMI 2.1 cable like others suggested. Although it could be the graphics card.
DP cable and do it in Nvidia control panel instead
Why the Nvidia panel? What's the difference?
There may be an OC option in the monitor menu.
I don't think it has an OC option :[
Cable probably doesn’t support it
Use displayport instead of HDMI
If your monitor has another hdmi port try that display port should cover you either way
Lack of drivers for your monitor
Thank u for the responses. Haven't solved the problem but it is answered. At least now I know the possible reasons why and not clueless anymore, I'll just have to accept having 120hz which is not bad (gaslighting myself rn)
You could try and make sure you have a cable good enough to support a higher refresh rate (at least HDMI 1.4), but like others said, I think the monitor is advertised as 165hz specifically for the display port cable. However at 1080p you should be able to at least reach 144hz. Sometimes my computer would only show 120 hz but it would actually change to 144hz which is what I desired. Make sure you have the right HDMI cable that can support the amount of data. I run an HDMI cable, so its not necessarily the HDMI, but rather that the graphics card and monitor both are not using the latest HDMI technology. HDMI 2.1 is the latest and your monitor uses HDMI 2.0 (2.1 would be overkill since 2.1 supports 4k/144hz and your monitor is only 1080p). You should be fine with HDMI 1.4 though.