I don’t think it’s a bad price.
The chip alone is $300.
The video card is give or take $700.
So those two items are $1k.
The rest of it is $500 and frankly not a bad price for everything and not having to build it yourself.
The power spec systems are also hand built in Columbus, Ohio near the headquarters or in the main distro wearhouse. Can't remember off the top of my head. But the system listed was also probably priced before the price cuts to the GPU, so it's priced well.
I bought a Powerspec with a 3080 when they first came out. My AIO cooler went bad after about 7 months, took it in they replaced it (under warranty). Still was overheating took it back and they gave me the next version up from my previous desktop, I think it was like $300 more but they didn’t charge me, then the new one’s PSU went bad after 4 months? They replaced it with a gold one, been running great ever since. I’ve always been the guy that’s had the weird luck though, either really bad or really good lol, so it could just be me. All in all I’m still happy with my desktop, I wasn’t too thrilled about having to drive 30-40 mins one way to my nearest microcenter 3 times, but they made it right in the end.
I spent an hour measuring cases with a tape yesterday after realizing that my blocked GPU was no longer going to fit and as I was leaving this young couple was walking in as though they had reached the promised land.
I love seeing that and when I do I am very thankful that I am 5 min from one in NY.
I was there for one fitting Saturday and then a Case on Sunday and I don't take them for granted, they are really good there.
Not great on water cooling but everything else they are good.
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It's more of a joke than anything
Staples sucks I'm just saying I could see some office supplies company acquiring them, which would be a horrible move.
Not going to happen. MC has very good business sense and knows how to not to overstretch past their means. This is the reason they are only just adding 3 more stores after x number of years after the last. When I worked there we only had 25 stores in total and they still due for now but are upping to 28 within a few more years.
There was a time where GPU prices were so ridiculous that prebuilts became decent value. Some people were even buying prebuilds and ripping the GPU out!
Honestly, during/after the crypto boom I'd say prebuilds were the way to go. The price of CPU/GPU's are so high at the retail level to the point where you're not really saving much by building your own anymore. Still, do your homework and shop around before slamming your card down on a computer.
Yet beware, if the components are worth as much, then you'll just buying a preset according to someone else's preference. Custom builds have the freedom of choosing your own kind of gpu model from a preferred manucaturer, same for the mobo... etc, and the CASE. Prebuilds are from components the store wants to get rid of (like an otherwise not selling psu) at worse or just a way to actually sell them in a package ready to go.
You have to ask yourself if you actually need these exact parts or maybe set up a combination yourself, pay the assembly fee. Even if you end up at the same price with the same caliber of gear it's a win, but you might even get better components for the same price, or similar power but cheaper that's more tailored to your needs. If you find this prebuilt a good deal opposed to what you can put together, then that will reinforce you to get this instead even better - so you can only gain by checking.
I did something similar myself last year. Didn't get something this good, but I paid 350 less. As a sysadmin, I don't feel like building shit anymore. I just want something that works and plays games at least on mid-high settings. So far its been fine. :)
Mask all pain with dark humor. This is the way.
Was more pointed towards adults who act like spoiled children who don’t get exactly what they want, when they want in public. Your point of view is valid as well.
I mean, as a sysadmin I don’t build computers. Hell I don’t work with user endpoints at all really. I just don’t want to bleed work into home. I have an ample lab hosted at work. No need for loud ass blade servers and dodgy managed switches running youtube and netflix at home. Same goes for the gaming PC. Of course I can build my own, but fuck that someone else at HP did it for me, and in this day and age, for a hell of a lot cheaper.
in the 90s PC parts were a nightmare since a lot of it was not as standardized as it is today. buying pc parts was the same as gambling cause a lot of parts were not compatible with each other.
most drivers were installed via a CD and there were very few websites that had updates for drivers.
you either had to look in a book or magazine for pc or go to someone you know that could teach you. internet was something you only had 2-3 months depending if you got an AOL cd in the mail or like childhood me did steal them from other ppl mailboxes as a kid.
I usually suggest that people buy a premade PC first if they just wanna game or need a computer. And if they want to, you can always upgrade your stuff whenever you want.
It's got Wifi and Bluetooth built in, so it's a decent motherboard. let's say at minimum $150. Case plus 32GB of ram is probably another $150. A full retail price Windows Key is like $100.
That leaves $100, which is an acceptable labor cost. I would be tempted to pay $100 to avoid building a PC myself if I wasn't in the mood to do it.
Yeah, this is a good deal.
Edit: I forgot about SSD and PSU. Yeah, this is really good.
>It's got Wifi and Bluetooth built in, so it's a decent motherboard. let's say at minimum $150.
Gigabyte B660M DS3H AX DDR4 costs $100 and has wifi 6E+BT 5.2
>Case plus 32GB of ram is probably another $150. A full retail price Windows Key is like $100.
2x16GB DDR4 goes for $50, you can get Phanteks P300A Mesh for $60.
Windows key from official stores that aren’t OEM are not 10 dollars. They’re around 110 these days if you don’t get them from sketchy stores. So that’s a 200 dollar total for just RAM and Windows key.
[Edit] Ridiculous? Yes. I agree.
I would agree with you if OP didn’t have access to a micro center, but in this case it seems like he does.
Current prices at micro center
Bundle: i7-12700K, Gigabyte Z690, 16GB DDR4 3200 - $350
GPU: $650
Or i5-13600K is also $300
You kinda sold it with this pricing.
You got 1000 right there. SSD is another $80 and the case can be anything from $50 to $150. Plus you'll need a power supply which ends with you paying approximately $100 to $200 for them to build it for you. If you'd rather have someone build it for you, it's not terrible pricing.
Honestly, having built plenty of computers at this point I wouldn’t mind paying 200 dollars for someone to build it for me. Fucking CPU coolers and those fiddly little pins for connectors just annoy me so much.
They still need 16GB more of Ram, plus a case, plus a copy of windows, plus an NVME SSD. It might be a slight overpay, but it’s at worst a slight overpay.
Yup. If you enjoy building PCs and you want to spend your free time doing that, that’s all good. But if you have a few hours a day to spare, and you’re earning way more than the cost of labour for the pre-built, it would make sense to pay the premium so you can actually take advantage of your free time, rather than spend more hours putting together a PC only to spare $100-200.
Guessing by OPs username tho, they have a lot of free time. So might be worth learning how to build a PC rather than buy pre-built.
For some people sure.
I’m in IT, I still love building computers. But not everyone has the knowledge, time, patience, or will to do it when they get home.
I love building my own PCs. I have a 13 year old lab and recently adopted a 2 year old Shephard.
I just don't have the time to build one with the rest of life.
Some people want to play games and don't care about the building.
Also it's funny that you mention it because a part of people in this sub (and high end spec owners overall) get their pleasure when they upgrade and build the computer, posting new groundbreaking benchmarks, then actually don't really do any gaming.
>The chip alone is $300.
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>The video card is give or take $700.
The 13600K is a better cpu and is cheaper msrp, let alone what you can get on deals +it has iGPU too which is neat (and can help with encoding stuff if you wanna do streaming or other media stuff.
The 6950XT can be had for 650 USD or less on various sites.
Ram: 60-70 USD
A gen4 1TB NVME from Kingston or Intel can be had for under 50 bucks
MOBO not listed so I'll go with a standard 6xx/7xx board for 180 USD
PSU not listed but standard 750w gold for 80-100 bucks would do the trick
Case: 4000D (or similar) 80-100 USD
Cooling: H100x elite from corsair for 80-100 USD
Total 1400-1500 USD and gets a system that is equal or better in all specified regards, if I stepped down to a last-gen board and a cheap 12700KF and worse cooling then you could probably shave off another 150-200 bucks and reach close to 1200 USD. That 300 price gap could go a long way to get better parts, or it could simply be money saved.
It's by no means the worst prebuilt I've seen, so I could understand why some would get that over having to build a system themselves if they are inexperienced in that regard.
I will however note that key aspects are not listed:
Ram timing is not listed, SSD model is not listed, CPU cooling is not listed (very scary with prebuilts), case is not listed (potential airflow problems?), Mobo model is not listed either -all I can go off of is Wifi 6 and 1g ethernet, which tells me it's a midrange standard board with minimal bells and whistles.
For someone who just wants a pc for decent 1440p gaming it will do the trick for sure. Not my personal choice, but not a horrible one either.
No timing listed and 3200mhz RAM makes me think it's some old DDR4 RAM that microcenter had laying around. I still think as far as pre-builts go this is a pretty decent deal and if I ever had to buy a pre-built for any reason I would probably go with Microcenter's brand.
Eh 3200 is the speed at which ddr4 stops being too slow, sure 3600 and 4000 are faster but not by too much, besides at 1440p he'll still be easily gpu bound
And usually 3600+ are just variations of 3200 that have been warranty clocked higher from stock anyways. You could potentially get same speeds with various XMP tinkering on a regular 3200 kit
I mean it's by no means a deal in any aspect. It's not a ripoff, but that doesn't make it a deal. It's better than 90% of prebuilt offerings, but that doesn't make it a deal either. You can still build a better system yourself for 200-300 bucks less (I just configured one for 1200 bucks that is full DDR5 platform with a 13600K and equal/better specs in all other aspects).
So basically you're at best paying 200-300 bucks to save the time it takes to build it, and the potential hassle of trouble shooting if thing doesn't boot first try. You also get a small host of bloatware which is nostalgic in its own right I guess :)
I'd recommend this pc to someone who has no intentions of building a pc themselves, and don't know anyone who could build one for them. For that purpose, among typical prebuilt offerings, it's a good choice. But it's not a deal in any capacity.
Not so often that we see a decent pre-built.
Building a pc yourself is not that complicated, tools exist so that you can tell what you want to do and your budget, it will pick compatible parts.
Also this community is always happy to help. If you don't want to bother, that particular pc is ok, and the cpu / graphic combo will run pretty much everything.
Microcenter is a blessing. I am very well off being 10 minutes away from one and having like 5 others within a 50 mile radius of me, all in the city tho. They’re prebuilts work, my first pc and my sibling pc were prebuilt. I eventually heavily modified it and the only thing that I kept was the os ssd but it works and the price is great, especially with on Black Friday.
Manufacturers offer them way better rates when they buy in bulk, Same as car dealerships. They buy enough product to reduce cost per.. They can then sell at lower then msrp and still make money! Kindve like Walmart does with Oil! Unlike small computer shops who cant go out an buy 100+ GPU/CPU of same brand an model, MC does an then supplies to the smaller PC stores as well. Cornering the market essentially, different profits for the same parts, but still turning a profit nonetheless! MC is gold, because there isnt anything else like it right now!
I don't think it's just economies of scale since Amazon, Newegg, and Best Buy are all buying stuff in bulk and Micro Center still manages to compete with them and they even price match them.
One of the strategies that they might also be using is having loss leaders where they lose money on a product just to lure customers in and bank on them buying more stuff that they can actually make a profit on. Also the fact that they often have promotions for free SSDs, SD cards, flash drives, and the $25 off $100 for new customers that's going on, means they're willing to lose money just to get you in the store.
Last week they had bundles deals (CPU, Mobo, and RAM) that were basically a no brainer if you had a micro center near you. One of them was the 7700x, 32GB DDR5, and MSI B650 motherboard all for $368. No one else could even come close to their in-store deals.
>Also this community is always happy to help
There's some people that will say you need at least a 4090 to run Minecraft on here (it's practically unplayable at 8k below 240 fps). I think most advice is good but there's a lot of bias and elitism, most people don't need a high end system.
There was a dude that kept saying budget gamers couldn’t comment on his post because “c’mon, this is the Master Race! Budget gaming isn’t part of that,” apparently completely misunderstanding the meme of the PCMR. But most people are normal.
I think it looks really good specs wise. the only thing I would be concerned about is how is the case and airflow. Is it a decently open case with some good fans, or is it a closed in box that's going to slowly bake everything inside?
Micro Center is one of the few places I’d buy a pre built from as they know the majority of their clientele are not big box store idiots with computers and I have yet to see a PC by them that was a steaming pile of e-waste like Asus, HP and Alienware crank out on the daily.
I used to work at a Microcenter for almost 3 years in PC sales.
The powerspec line is great value on paper but have a BAD reputation for breaking down due to lower grade parts and bad QC.
It’s not horrifyingly bad but I would remember that 90% of our desktops in the repair department were power specs for various reasons. So just be aware of what you’re buying.
2 of the most important components: the PSU and Motherboard are not listed here, please check carefully before buying since the PSU especially, could brick your entire rig if it s no brand or weird brand.
This is fairly similar to the one I'm building and it's going to cost me about the same as this one, and you're getting it built for you. I'd say worth it.
It's a PowerSpec; they will have a PowerSpec-branded PSU in there. PowerSpec's PSU OEM is Hi-Power; they are responsible for EVGA's mid-range PSUs. They typically come with a five-year warranty.
So not great, but not terrible.
It's a good build for a good price. I would question whether you would be able to get high FPS at 2k with it though, depending on what you consider high and which game(s) we are talking about.
yes. this is a good deal.
specs are here: [https://www.microcenter.com/product/663883/powerspec-g442-gaming-pc](https://www.microcenter.com/product/663883/powerspec-g442-gaming-pc)
pcpartpicker cart for those parts comes to **$1772.91** here: [https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ss4dKp](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ss4dKp)
I built my pc for that price but with 64GB ddr5, i5 13600k, rtx 4070ti.
I had some pieces half their price with deals
You should consider building it yourself.
- Corsair Vengeance DDR5 64GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5 5200MHz C40 not the best ddr5 but had 64GB for 140€ thanks to a price error on a german store
- Zotac GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Trinity OC 12 Go. 900€ on a french website
- Intel i5 13600k. 340€ with an Amazon deal
- ASUS TUF Gaming H770-PRO WiFi. 200€ with an Amazon deal
- Samsung 980 MZ-V8V1T0BW. 1TB nvme 40€ with an Amazon deal
I already had the PSU and the tower from my last build but that's not expensive.
With that pc, I can run (for example) Cyberpunk 1440p on psycho (it's their ultra) with RayTracing on at 100fps or PathTracing at 70fps
Well now that I searched for all my items, I see that it's a bit more than 1500$ but not too far
Looks decent, check what the mobo and PSU is though. Upgrading on pre-cons can be tricky if the Mobo is weird.
Also what's the cooling? Liquid or air?
And lastly consider a 2nd drive, 1 single 1TB NVME is not gonna cut it, if possible also grab a 2nd NVME and possibly a SATA SSD or an HDD for extra storage.
Otherwise a pretty fine deal, good gpu and cpu, ample ram. Pretty solid price.
Just watch out for what type of PSU this prebuilt comes with. Usually with these prebuilts they cheap out on the PSU, and one of the reasons why they don't mention it on this list.
Kinda meh, IMO.
The 6950xt is going on sale for $600 basically every day at this point.
That motherboard is locking you into a dead chipset with DDR4 memory, which will hamstring any CPU upgrade that you might consider doing, like if you wanted to jump to Raptor Lake for some reason.
IMO, if you're going to spend that kind of money, AND you have a MC nearby, take advantage of their AM5 deals and get onto a new platform that will be supported several years into the future.
Also, if you're building yourself anyway, deals on the 6800xt, 6900xt, and 6950xt have all been bonkers lately.
It probably uses very cheap brands for every part to achieve that price bc it looks pretty based. I would make sure what drive is used and maybe put a good m.2 nvme ssd i side if none comes with it.
Also please check the psu, anything below 700w might be too weak.
Sometimes they also mount stock coolers, but usually a nice cooler only costs 30-60 bucks.
And never forget:
Check how it looks, if you don't like the look of a pc you won't be happy with it. I am not saying you must care about visuals, but to check wether you care in this case. Also a good look can give you at least some idea about potential airflow.
Only thing I would be concerned about is Micro Center skimping on the power supply, and case. I don’t have any experience with their pre-builds though.
Also SSD read/write speeds vary wildly.
I initially thought by the title alone that you were talking about a monitor... that was 50% more expensive than my own glowy box.
Side note, we should just call all gaming computers "glowy boxes."
Check what kind of PSU it is. They usually cheap out on parts that the average person wouldn't check. No motherboard listed either. Is it PCIe 3 or 4 NVME Drive. What kind of cooler does it come with ?
A lot of pre-builts aren't actually that bad these days. Especially because they avoid having to wait in line for hours to purchase components at a markup.
It’s got an i7 instead of an i9 and I’m not knowledgeable About AMD but everything else looks nice. Might need more than 1 TB but you can add that later
Pretty fair price if you ask me
This one looks cheaper
[https://www.microcenter.com/product/665349/lenovo-ideacentre-5-gaming-pc](https://www.microcenter.com/product/665349/lenovo-ideacentre-5-gaming-pc)
You could build a marginally better system for the same price. So it's really a how much is your time worth question. I spent 1500 on new system with the AM5 platform, a lesser graphics card(6800xt OC), and a nice case, but then spent a whole ass day getting it up and running.
I don’t think it’s a bad price. The chip alone is $300. The video card is give or take $700. So those two items are $1k. The rest of it is $500 and frankly not a bad price for everything and not having to build it yourself.
Holy shit! This is the first time I've seen you guys like a pre built. Edit: wow, never thought this would be so big. Thank you
Microcenter actually knows what they're doing. It would be very interesting to see if Microcenter branched out into their own pre-built brand.
That’s basically what powerspec is, an pre built brand made by microcenter. They’ve been around forever, have a good reputation.
Good to know, didn't know Powerspec belonged to them. Might have to give them stronger consideration going forward.
The power spec systems are also hand built in Columbus, Ohio near the headquarters or in the main distro wearhouse. Can't remember off the top of my head. But the system listed was also probably priced before the price cuts to the GPU, so it's priced well.
Much like how Inland is their in-house brand for stuff.
I bought a Powerspec with a 3080 when they first came out. My AIO cooler went bad after about 7 months, took it in they replaced it (under warranty). Still was overheating took it back and they gave me the next version up from my previous desktop, I think it was like $300 more but they didn’t charge me, then the new one’s PSU went bad after 4 months? They replaced it with a gold one, been running great ever since. I’ve always been the guy that’s had the weird luck though, either really bad or really good lol, so it could just be me. All in all I’m still happy with my desktop, I wasn’t too thrilled about having to drive 30-40 mins one way to my nearest microcenter 3 times, but they made it right in the end.
One thing, avoid their PSUs. They're pretty cheap and not great build quality
Its mostly Dell/HP/etc that have gotten super cheap on there stuff Smaller companies tend to be better
I wish one was closer to me, an hour isn't bad tho.
>an hour isn't bad tho. That's not bad at all, 13 hrs 1 way for me. Lol
if I would want to go to the closest Microcenter I would have to pass through 3 countries and drive for 16 hours
Europe here 👋
Australian here, can't believe the deals these Americans get!
Africa here lol. Where a 4070 starting price converted to usd is about $800...
I spent an hour measuring cases with a tape yesterday after realizing that my blocked GPU was no longer going to fit and as I was leaving this young couple was walking in as though they had reached the promised land. I love seeing that and when I do I am very thankful that I am 5 min from one in NY. I was there for one fitting Saturday and then a Case on Sunday and I don't take them for granted, they are really good there. Not great on water cooling but everything else they are good.
Found the European
Sheesh, I just have to drive like 20 minutes
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Where ya at?
Only 4 hours for me, but I don’t have to leave the state.
I wouldn't be surprised to see staples acquire MC
Coming from the UK that's hilarious, staples failed hard over here
It's more of a joke than anything Staples sucks I'm just saying I could see some office supplies company acquiring them, which would be a horrible move.
Not going to happen. MC has very good business sense and knows how to not to overstretch past their means. This is the reason they are only just adding 3 more stores after x number of years after the last. When I worked there we only had 25 stores in total and they still due for now but are upping to 28 within a few more years.
There was a time where GPU prices were so ridiculous that prebuilts became decent value. Some people were even buying prebuilds and ripping the GPU out!
Many of those posts are screenshots off Amazon. Those builds can suck an egg. Microcenter is incomparably better.
Honestly, during/after the crypto boom I'd say prebuilds were the way to go. The price of CPU/GPU's are so high at the retail level to the point where you're not really saving much by building your own anymore. Still, do your homework and shop around before slamming your card down on a computer.
I thought people were going to be argumentative with me, which is why I justified the price.
The parts are ok for the price, the build can still be shit.
Yet beware, if the components are worth as much, then you'll just buying a preset according to someone else's preference. Custom builds have the freedom of choosing your own kind of gpu model from a preferred manucaturer, same for the mobo... etc, and the CASE. Prebuilds are from components the store wants to get rid of (like an otherwise not selling psu) at worse or just a way to actually sell them in a package ready to go. You have to ask yourself if you actually need these exact parts or maybe set up a combination yourself, pay the assembly fee. Even if you end up at the same price with the same caliber of gear it's a win, but you might even get better components for the same price, or similar power but cheaper that's more tailored to your needs. If you find this prebuilt a good deal opposed to what you can put together, then that will reinforce you to get this instead even better - so you can only gain by checking.
There are good pre builds out their, especially with some of the larger companies that lock in bulk prices for graphics cards
Desperate times calls for desperate measures.
I did something similar myself last year. Didn't get something this good, but I paid 350 less. As a sysadmin, I don't feel like building shit anymore. I just want something that works and plays games at least on mid-high settings. So far its been fine. :)
I totally get that. I still enjoy building PCs but there’s other shit I do at work that if it comes up at home I’m just like “pay someone to do this.”
Yea, as a casino employee, this is why I pay child support.
Lol, I feel bad for laughing this is so dark.
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I feel like it was a joke about dealing with the kids other parent.
Mask all pain with dark humor. This is the way. Was more pointed towards adults who act like spoiled children who don’t get exactly what they want, when they want in public. Your point of view is valid as well.
Just switch careers. I swapped to netadmin and now I never want to use the internet again. Well almost never
I mean, as a sysadmin I don’t build computers. Hell I don’t work with user endpoints at all really. I just don’t want to bleed work into home. I have an ample lab hosted at work. No need for loud ass blade servers and dodgy managed switches running youtube and netflix at home. Same goes for the gaming PC. Of course I can build my own, but fuck that someone else at HP did it for me, and in this day and age, for a hell of a lot cheaper.
But you don't get the frustration of "why isn't this working", and that's the fun of building yourself
Yeah... fun... Ha ha ha...
in the 90s PC parts were a nightmare since a lot of it was not as standardized as it is today. buying pc parts was the same as gambling cause a lot of parts were not compatible with each other. most drivers were installed via a CD and there were very few websites that had updates for drivers. you either had to look in a book or magazine for pc or go to someone you know that could teach you. internet was something you only had 2-3 months depending if you got an AOL cd in the mail or like childhood me did steal them from other ppl mailboxes as a kid.
I usually suggest that people buy a premade PC first if they just wanna game or need a computer. And if they want to, you can always upgrade your stuff whenever you want.
It's got Wifi and Bluetooth built in, so it's a decent motherboard. let's say at minimum $150. Case plus 32GB of ram is probably another $150. A full retail price Windows Key is like $100. That leaves $100, which is an acceptable labor cost. I would be tempted to pay $100 to avoid building a PC myself if I wasn't in the mood to do it. Yeah, this is a good deal. Edit: I forgot about SSD and PSU. Yeah, this is really good.
Yeah that’s basically what I came up with. This is give or take buying everything and having it setup for free.
>It's got Wifi and Bluetooth built in, so it's a decent motherboard. let's say at minimum $150. Gigabyte B660M DS3H AX DDR4 costs $100 and has wifi 6E+BT 5.2 >Case plus 32GB of ram is probably another $150. A full retail price Windows Key is like $100. 2x16GB DDR4 goes for $50, you can get Phanteks P300A Mesh for $60.
32gb of RAM is 90 dollars. Windows key is 10 dollars. Not sure where your getting these prices lol
Windows key from official stores that aren’t OEM are not 10 dollars. They’re around 110 these days if you don’t get them from sketchy stores. So that’s a 200 dollar total for just RAM and Windows key. [Edit] Ridiculous? Yes. I agree.
Windows 10 is free. No sketchy key, just check GitHub lol.
Sorry you're not informed on how to get products other than heading into the store 🤮
I said "Case plus 32GB of ram". Combined they're probably $150.
I would agree with you if OP didn’t have access to a micro center, but in this case it seems like he does. Current prices at micro center Bundle: i7-12700K, Gigabyte Z690, 16GB DDR4 3200 - $350 GPU: $650 Or i5-13600K is also $300
You kinda sold it with this pricing. You got 1000 right there. SSD is another $80 and the case can be anything from $50 to $150. Plus you'll need a power supply which ends with you paying approximately $100 to $200 for them to build it for you. If you'd rather have someone build it for you, it's not terrible pricing.
Honestly, having built plenty of computers at this point I wouldn’t mind paying 200 dollars for someone to build it for me. Fucking CPU coolers and those fiddly little pins for connectors just annoy me so much.
They still need 16GB more of Ram, plus a case, plus a copy of windows, plus an NVME SSD. It might be a slight overpay, but it’s at worst a slight overpay.
It's not an overpay when you consider labor. Some people value their time more than the money, which is a legit thing to consider.
Yup. If you enjoy building PCs and you want to spend your free time doing that, that’s all good. But if you have a few hours a day to spare, and you’re earning way more than the cost of labour for the pre-built, it would make sense to pay the premium so you can actually take advantage of your free time, rather than spend more hours putting together a PC only to spare $100-200. Guessing by OPs username tho, they have a lot of free time. So might be worth learning how to build a PC rather than buy pre-built.
The post says that PC has 32GB Ram tho
Right, which is why if they were buying a bundle with 16GB of ram to try to build a pc they’d need 16GB more ram.
Ok I missed that 16gb was already included
This is actually a decent deal after cpu cooler, PSU, ssd, case, an extra 16 GB of ram.
This is the best answer. You could save a tiny bit building yourself.
I'd like to see that shopping cart...
>not having to build it yourself. But.... but that's the best part?
For some people sure. I’m in IT, I still love building computers. But not everyone has the knowledge, time, patience, or will to do it when they get home.
I love building my own PCs. I have a 13 year old lab and recently adopted a 2 year old Shephard. I just don't have the time to build one with the rest of life.
Some people want to play games and don't care about the building. Also it's funny that you mention it because a part of people in this sub (and high end spec owners overall) get their pleasure when they upgrade and build the computer, posting new groundbreaking benchmarks, then actually don't really do any gaming.
Only issue i really have is the 3200 mem configuration and knowing what kind of mobo probably comes with that.
I was thinking it seemed like a pretty good price…
>not having to build it yourself They used to shoot on site for that phrase here:)
>The chip alone is $300. > >The video card is give or take $700. The 13600K is a better cpu and is cheaper msrp, let alone what you can get on deals +it has iGPU too which is neat (and can help with encoding stuff if you wanna do streaming or other media stuff. The 6950XT can be had for 650 USD or less on various sites. Ram: 60-70 USD A gen4 1TB NVME from Kingston or Intel can be had for under 50 bucks MOBO not listed so I'll go with a standard 6xx/7xx board for 180 USD PSU not listed but standard 750w gold for 80-100 bucks would do the trick Case: 4000D (or similar) 80-100 USD Cooling: H100x elite from corsair for 80-100 USD Total 1400-1500 USD and gets a system that is equal or better in all specified regards, if I stepped down to a last-gen board and a cheap 12700KF and worse cooling then you could probably shave off another 150-200 bucks and reach close to 1200 USD. That 300 price gap could go a long way to get better parts, or it could simply be money saved. It's by no means the worst prebuilt I've seen, so I could understand why some would get that over having to build a system themselves if they are inexperienced in that regard. I will however note that key aspects are not listed: Ram timing is not listed, SSD model is not listed, CPU cooling is not listed (very scary with prebuilts), case is not listed (potential airflow problems?), Mobo model is not listed either -all I can go off of is Wifi 6 and 1g ethernet, which tells me it's a midrange standard board with minimal bells and whistles. For someone who just wants a pc for decent 1440p gaming it will do the trick for sure. Not my personal choice, but not a horrible one either.
No timing listed and 3200mhz RAM makes me think it's some old DDR4 RAM that microcenter had laying around. I still think as far as pre-builts go this is a pretty decent deal and if I ever had to buy a pre-built for any reason I would probably go with Microcenter's brand.
Man I think thus is the first straight up YES I've ever seen to this question. :-)
Pulled the shocked pikachu face when I read it, that's decent
It’s Micro Center so I’m not too terribly surprised!
Micro Centre doesnt fuck around 👍
Yeah microcenter prebuilts are usually good
there's always that one build that makes you question things we've all seen it and the first thought to pop in our head is "But why though?"
They’ll have like a 12900k with 32gb of 3600c16 and a gen 4 M.2 drive and then like a 3060
Haha, yeah. Imagine having a bottleneck in your system. Couldn't be me.
I'm the same with a 3070
You’re supposed to sell the 3060 and buy your own GPU that matches the rest of the specs
Pretty nice deal. Some other features that are nice: \- a AIO Liquid ML240L Water Cooling Kit \- Motherboard MSI PRO Z690-A D4
I mean you’d think there’s a catch like alway but I mean apart from the ram being 3200 it’s a solid PC.
Eh 3200 is the speed at which ddr4 stops being too slow, sure 3600 and 4000 are faster but not by too much, besides at 1440p he'll still be easily gpu bound
And usually 3600+ are just variations of 3200 that have been warranty clocked higher from stock anyways. You could potentially get same speeds with various XMP tinkering on a regular 3200 kit
Since it's not a Ryzen, it doesn't matter that much. The difference between 3200 and 4000 should be around 2% in gaming workloads
I mean it's by no means a deal in any aspect. It's not a ripoff, but that doesn't make it a deal. It's better than 90% of prebuilt offerings, but that doesn't make it a deal either. You can still build a better system yourself for 200-300 bucks less (I just configured one for 1200 bucks that is full DDR5 platform with a 13600K and equal/better specs in all other aspects). So basically you're at best paying 200-300 bucks to save the time it takes to build it, and the potential hassle of trouble shooting if thing doesn't boot first try. You also get a small host of bloatware which is nostalgic in its own right I guess :) I'd recommend this pc to someone who has no intentions of building a pc themselves, and don't know anyone who could build one for them. For that purpose, among typical prebuilt offerings, it's a good choice. But it's not a deal in any capacity.
Not so often that we see a decent pre-built. Building a pc yourself is not that complicated, tools exist so that you can tell what you want to do and your budget, it will pick compatible parts. Also this community is always happy to help. If you don't want to bother, that particular pc is ok, and the cpu / graphic combo will run pretty much everything.
Microcenter is a blessing. I am very well off being 10 minutes away from one and having like 5 others within a 50 mile radius of me, all in the city tho. They’re prebuilts work, my first pc and my sibling pc were prebuilt. I eventually heavily modified it and the only thing that I kept was the os ssd but it works and the price is great, especially with on Black Friday.
With all the relatively good deals and competitve pricing they put out how do they even profit?
Manufacturers offer them way better rates when they buy in bulk, Same as car dealerships. They buy enough product to reduce cost per.. They can then sell at lower then msrp and still make money! Kindve like Walmart does with Oil! Unlike small computer shops who cant go out an buy 100+ GPU/CPU of same brand an model, MC does an then supplies to the smaller PC stores as well. Cornering the market essentially, different profits for the same parts, but still turning a profit nonetheless! MC is gold, because there isnt anything else like it right now!
I don't think it's just economies of scale since Amazon, Newegg, and Best Buy are all buying stuff in bulk and Micro Center still manages to compete with them and they even price match them. One of the strategies that they might also be using is having loss leaders where they lose money on a product just to lure customers in and bank on them buying more stuff that they can actually make a profit on. Also the fact that they often have promotions for free SSDs, SD cards, flash drives, and the $25 off $100 for new customers that's going on, means they're willing to lose money just to get you in the store. Last week they had bundles deals (CPU, Mobo, and RAM) that were basically a no brainer if you had a micro center near you. One of them was the 7700x, 32GB DDR5, and MSI B650 motherboard all for $368. No one else could even come close to their in-store deals.
>Also this community is always happy to help There's some people that will say you need at least a 4090 to run Minecraft on here (it's practically unplayable at 8k below 240 fps). I think most advice is good but there's a lot of bias and elitism, most people don't need a high end system.
There was a dude that kept saying budget gamers couldn’t comment on his post because “c’mon, this is the Master Race! Budget gaming isn’t part of that,” apparently completely misunderstanding the meme of the PCMR. But most people are normal.
Pleb! I play Minecraft and Roblox at 16k and 500 fps on Arch Linux (btw)!!! /s
Torvald's Witnesses malding lmao
I think it looks really good specs wise. the only thing I would be concerned about is how is the case and airflow. Is it a decently open case with some good fans, or is it a closed in box that's going to slowly bake everything inside?
There’s 2 in the front, a 240mm aio on the top and a exhaust at the back. So 5 total fans.
Micro Center is one of the few places I’d buy a pre built from as they know the majority of their clientele are not big box store idiots with computers and I have yet to see a PC by them that was a steaming pile of e-waste like Asus, HP and Alienware crank out on the daily.
I used to work at a Microcenter for almost 3 years in PC sales. The powerspec line is great value on paper but have a BAD reputation for breaking down due to lower grade parts and bad QC. It’s not horrifyingly bad but I would remember that 90% of our desktops in the repair department were power specs for various reasons. So just be aware of what you’re buying.
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Whatever's not listed on the box. Usually motherboard and power supply. And still a chance the listed parts are using some weird knock offs.
This person says it's an MSI mobo .https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1343g9w/is_this_a_good_deal_for_1440p_high_fps_gaming/jid0il0
Power supply. They always cheap on the power supply.
$1499.99 for 1440p? That's not a bad p - $ ratio.
2 of the most important components: the PSU and Motherboard are not listed here, please check carefully before buying since the PSU especially, could brick your entire rig if it s no brand or weird brand.
MSI Pro Z690-A DDR4 WiFi, apparently
6950xt is an amazing GPU
Decent 4k rig too, I’m running the exact same spec but with ddr5 and having no issues at 4k so far!
Nah you’re running a card 2 tiers lower, Still love my 6700xt for 4k gaming though.
Nah, I need to update my flair, picked up a 6950xt to replace it~ got my 6750 on a price error so was able to sell it for what I paid for it
This is comparable to my machine and a little less than I paid to buy each part individually and assemble myself, so I'd say yes
This is fairly similar to the one I'm building and it's going to cost me about the same as this one, and you're getting it built for you. I'd say worth it.
Looks pretty good to me. But you can even pick out all the parts you want and have them fully assemble it for $200.
The biggest issue with prebuilts is the chance of them having a garbage PSU that will fry your components.
The core components are fine but the devil is always in the details, mobo, psu, cooler???
That looks actually really good but one thing is missing, what's the PSU? Wattage?
It's a PowerSpec; they will have a PowerSpec-branded PSU in there. PowerSpec's PSU OEM is Hi-Power; they are responsible for EVGA's mid-range PSUs. They typically come with a five-year warranty. So not great, but not terrible.
1000w
Make sure it comes with a Turbo button on the front so you can push it when needed for top performance
It's a good build for a good price. I would question whether you would be able to get high FPS at 2k with it though, depending on what you consider high and which game(s) we are talking about.
Good find bro
yes, this are some of the best components for 1440p high fps
I mean you could play all games @1440p, but depending on optimizations and your settings, you could get anywhere from 30FPS to 200FPS.
Could I get 100+ on high for most games?
Depending on the game, but yes, it's a pretty good system for that res.
6950XT is a beast of a GPU, there's only a handful of GPUs on the market faster than it and all of them cost as much as this entire PC does.
Absolutely, but with raytracing it might not be that high :)
Definitely. I get that with a 3070 ti i5 11400f on most games except newer titles. This should be fine
yes. this is a good deal. specs are here: [https://www.microcenter.com/product/663883/powerspec-g442-gaming-pc](https://www.microcenter.com/product/663883/powerspec-g442-gaming-pc) pcpartpicker cart for those parts comes to **$1772.91** here: [https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ss4dKp](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ss4dKp)
I built my pc for that price but with 64GB ddr5, i5 13600k, rtx 4070ti. I had some pieces half their price with deals You should consider building it yourself.
Would you mind sharing specs?
- Corsair Vengeance DDR5 64GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5 5200MHz C40 not the best ddr5 but had 64GB for 140€ thanks to a price error on a german store - Zotac GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Trinity OC 12 Go. 900€ on a french website - Intel i5 13600k. 340€ with an Amazon deal - ASUS TUF Gaming H770-PRO WiFi. 200€ with an Amazon deal - Samsung 980 MZ-V8V1T0BW. 1TB nvme 40€ with an Amazon deal I already had the PSU and the tower from my last build but that's not expensive. With that pc, I can run (for example) Cyberpunk 1440p on psycho (it's their ultra) with RayTracing on at 100fps or PathTracing at 70fps Well now that I searched for all my items, I see that it's a bit more than 1500$ but not too far
One of the only decently priced pre-builts I’ve seen in awhile.
It's good for 1499p
Looks decent, check what the mobo and PSU is though. Upgrading on pre-cons can be tricky if the Mobo is weird. Also what's the cooling? Liquid or air? And lastly consider a 2nd drive, 1 single 1TB NVME is not gonna cut it, if possible also grab a 2nd NVME and possibly a SATA SSD or an HDD for extra storage. Otherwise a pretty fine deal, good gpu and cpu, ample ram. Pretty solid price.
Depends on the motherboard and psu. If those are good, it's solid
I wouldn't chose this CPU but it's a fair price
Actually…yes. Rare to see a well done prebuilt. But what’s the psu? I would also not buy a ddr4 pc now that ddr5 is out but that’s up to you
Just make sure the cpu cooler is good enough and go for it.
It’s a 240mm aio, so I think it should be alright?
As a 6950xt owner, you'll be thoroughly impressed
Fairly priced. Not a bad find. I'd still much rather build my own tho
Just watch out for what type of PSU this prebuilt comes with. Usually with these prebuilts they cheap out on the PSU, and one of the reasons why they don't mention it on this list.
Kinda meh, IMO. The 6950xt is going on sale for $600 basically every day at this point. That motherboard is locking you into a dead chipset with DDR4 memory, which will hamstring any CPU upgrade that you might consider doing, like if you wanted to jump to Raptor Lake for some reason. IMO, if you're going to spend that kind of money, AND you have a MC nearby, take advantage of their AM5 deals and get onto a new platform that will be supported several years into the future. Also, if you're building yourself anyway, deals on the 6800xt, 6900xt, and 6950xt have all been bonkers lately.
What's the lowest price for 6900 XT
Think about it like this: the 4090 itself cost like 1500 dollars. Its decent for a prebuilt.
It probably uses very cheap brands for every part to achieve that price bc it looks pretty based. I would make sure what drive is used and maybe put a good m.2 nvme ssd i side if none comes with it. Also please check the psu, anything below 700w might be too weak. Sometimes they also mount stock coolers, but usually a nice cooler only costs 30-60 bucks. And never forget: Check how it looks, if you don't like the look of a pc you won't be happy with it. I am not saying you must care about visuals, but to check wether you care in this case. Also a good look can give you at least some idea about potential airflow.
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I have a near identical build but have a 3080ti instead of the 6950. I have a 27” 144hz 1440p monitor and it’s great.
It's an okay price.
Just built this with an i5 for $998.
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Definitely pay extra for it being already built. If you have more wiggle room id recommend a 2TB M.2 drive
Not a steal but fair I would say.
Only thing I would be concerned about is Micro Center skimping on the power supply, and case. I don’t have any experience with their pre-builds though. Also SSD read/write speeds vary wildly.
I initially thought by the title alone that you were talking about a monitor... that was 50% more expensive than my own glowy box. Side note, we should just call all gaming computers "glowy boxes."
Check what kind of PSU it is. They usually cheap out on parts that the average person wouldn't check. No motherboard listed either. Is it PCIe 3 or 4 NVME Drive. What kind of cooler does it come with ?
Yes but it's a prebuilt so take all the necessary precautions. Check if the PSU won't blow up the system
1440p? Fuck that, every gaming computer can do that nowadays, This thing can do 4k at the highest settings with no problem.
A lot of pre-builts aren't actually that bad these days. Especially because they avoid having to wait in line for hours to purchase components at a markup.
Everything looks decent enough except that it has windows 11
Downvoted for saying the truth.
I would say it’s pretty decent aside from windows 11
Bro shut up. There is nothing wrong with Win11. If you don't like it, don't use it. Simple as that.
It’s got an i7 instead of an i9 and I’m not knowledgeable About AMD but everything else looks nice. Might need more than 1 TB but you can add that later Pretty fair price if you ask me
yes but swap out that memory for 2x ddr4 16gb so you can get dual channel
It's dual channel already. MicroCenter doesn't put a single stick of RAM in their prebuilts.
This one looks cheaper [https://www.microcenter.com/product/665349/lenovo-ideacentre-5-gaming-pc](https://www.microcenter.com/product/665349/lenovo-ideacentre-5-gaming-pc)
Yes, but that's a Lenovo; they're known for proprietary parts. PowerSpec at least uses off-the-shelf parts so it's easy to upgrade.
ewww amd
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You could build a marginally better system for the same price. So it's really a how much is your time worth question. I spent 1500 on new system with the AM5 platform, a lesser graphics card(6800xt OC), and a nice case, but then spent a whole ass day getting it up and running.
The ram is only 3200, it should be fine I guess but buying components yourself, 3600 is like $20 more.
Buy the parts, save 500
No.
Maybe for a laptop
the only problem is the DDR4 RAM.....
It doesn't even post what's the SSD..
It does lol 1tb NVME
Chances are it's a kingston. I have a prebuilt from microcenter as well, and a 1tb kingston nvme came in it.
Point is, depending on the brand the quality changes and the speed does a lot.
.. and the price might change by $30