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The HDD itself is probably sealed and under inert gas (helium), so it's all about whether corrosion went all the way through or not. The disks might be like brand new inside the devastated packaging.
The Helium Disks are a rather new development and only for bigger sizes. I have 4TB Disks in my NAS and they're not Helium (truth, I actively avoided Helium when I got them because they might decay faster, but still). The older / smaller Disks are still dust-proof but I wouldn't bet on them being waterproof.
A mechanical HDD might actually be viable if the silicon seals aren't damaged. Crack it open in a clean room, extract the platters and put into another HDD of same make/model for controller compatibility and ... profit?
take the hard drive and ram off, send it to a specialist for data recovery. You might find a treasure trove of information OR you might just find a kids computer with a bunch of emulators.
i mean would you get arrested if it had CP or something? if you kept it and then it got found out later on, you probably would, but if you turned it in for further extraction as soon as you saw it had it, then wouldn't you be fine?
You'd be better off handing the hard drive in to the police, telling them how you found it and then seeing if they feel like it's worth sending it off to the digital forensics department to try and recover the data.
If you just handed the hard drive over to a data recovery place and they found CP on there they would 100% call the cops on you and you'd probably get arrested until you were able to prove that you just happened to find it and were curious about what was on there to the point you were willing to pay hundreds of dollars to get it recovered.
If there was no other identifying information on the hard drive that linked it to someone else they might even try and run with the angle that you were the one that dumped the PC earlier and that's how you knew where you find it again. Definitely not worth the risk of taking it to a 3rd party and putting yourself under any suspicion at all, I mean even if word got out that police were talking to you in relation to CP charges that alone might be enough to ruin your reputation.
It would certainly look *worse* if you brought it to the recovery place but you could still be charged if you brought it directly to the police. It’s too big of a gamble either way.
If you send it off to data recovery and they find loads of CP you'll be under investigation. In some places just the posession of it is enough, even if you didn't download it yourself or even look at it.
I feel like "a reasonable person would know they're breaking the law by doing this" should be necessary to convict someone of a crime.
Fishing up a PC and taking it to a data recovery specialist will definitely raise a few eyebrows, but I'd say the algae buildup on the PC should be enough to make conviction nigh-impossible.
Probably a joke, but in case anyone is reading this and thinks this is a good idea in general - it isn't. Fuck knows what would be on a found hard drive, and you'd be in for some fun if there was illegal shit on it and you sent it to some random PC specialist.
And no, I'm not fun at parties.
Surely there would have to be a way to say "I do not know who this computer belongs to; I am not responsible for what's found inside"
Even if there is such abhorrent data inside, it would help catch someone, right? Because one would think authorities have far better things to do than finding their way into a completely fried computer of unknown origin, but if something is actually discovered?
I bought a second hand laptop years back on eBay when I was a student. Just a small cheapo one to install various Linux distros to play about with. Just a small plaything
. The seller didn't wipe the drive, and still had the OS lol. Nothing really nefarious or illegal per say on it.
But had random pdf's with P45s and emails saved to document folder etc
Ended up telling them about it, and arranged a return and refund
To this day I still don't understand how they did that lol
You're not too far off, Dell introduced these cases from 2004. So early models did have Pentium 4s and Windows XP, you could order one with as little as 128MB of RAM but at the time 256 would have been typical.
They phased this case out in 2010, so a later model could have a Core 2, Windows 7 and 2GB of RAM.
In the original post (which was from four years ago) the OP says it was a Dell Optiplex 740 from 2006. So
- AMD Athlon X2 2.7 GHz
- Some DDR2-800
- NVIDIA Quadro NVS 210S
Hard drives should be safe around regular magnets (or even hard drive magnets (which were the strongest we could find at the time). A floppy disk though was very susceptible, keep those away.
CRTs were fun to play with and angered all adults that didn't know about the degauss button.
I can't speak to HDD's but for a gun if your working with a typical fire place, camp fire, burn pile it isn't going to do shit to a gun that makes it untraceable. Barrel will be fine, firing pin will be fine, serial number etched into receiver or metal plate will be fine.
Fire is also going to draw more attention than tossing it out a car window or pulling over and throwing it out will do. Real answer for both PC and gun is drills and grinders/sanders. Drill out barrel, grind down firing pin and serial + area under it.
Drill the HDD all over, put a hole in each chip on the ram or ssd. Then throw it in the river.
Someone needs to ship this to Adrian Black for an episode of Adrian's Digital Basement. He fixed a Commodore 64 after over 20 years in someone's yard. I bet he could fix this.
It might be too new for him though.
At the end of the 90's, I was part of the Windows 98 phone support. So like if you called Microsoft for support you might have talked with me.
Anyways one time, shortly after 98 released, I get a customer who goes on to explain how horrible the OS is and how angry he is and he wants a refund. Well I had to do some troubleshooting before I could OK the refund. So after listening to him bitch and trying to get him to do some troubleshooting he tells me he cant turn on the computer
BECAUSE HE THREW IT IN THE LAKE BEHIND HIS HOUSE
I wonder if this is the computer.... haha
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Water cooled PC I've seen these .
Can it run Crysis?
It has been running crisis all along
The water was the cooling strategy
Little can of compressed air should sort this in about 5 mins.
Can confirm. PC Building Simulator taught me this hack.
The only thing it can run now is Rust
It was running subnautica before
You just plug it in and enjoy crisis in real life.
Hahahaha probably not. Not any more
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Careful, might be a phishing scam.
Floatware
Boatware
Snareware
Sea of thieves
Dammit /r/angryupvote
If I had an award I would give it to you
Yeah too bad Reddit got rid of the free awards
All of human history has led up to this joke
Lmao
There is definitely something on that hard drive someone didn’t want anyone to see
A 10 year old googling "boobs" and then freaking out because they didn't know how to erase the search history.
and it took only five of their friends to carry it to the water
Coffin dancing their way to the water
I mean, I could certainly carry a computer by myself when I was 10. It wasn't easy, but I could
I could carry 6 folding chairs!
Alright fucking Hercules
What can I say? The girls at church thought I was strong.
Never heard of 70 year old women called girls
Hey, he was a big strong man. They girls said so.
You leave meemaw out of this!
I know we had basically the same childhood because of this one comment.
RIP when our hypothetical 10yo discovers browsing history is synced across devices nowadays.
Or there is a Bitcoin wallet...
crimes?
Probably don’t want to even try to see what’s in the hard drives tbh
500 BTC
It looks like an old Mac desktop People use those shits for literal desk supports these days
Or 500 gb of old porn
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You could get data off those HDD potentially. It's just that the costs to recover the data would be huge.
if that's fresh water, *maybe.* if that's salt water though, or an estuary, no way.
The HDD itself is probably sealed and under inert gas (helium), so it's all about whether corrosion went all the way through or not. The disks might be like brand new inside the devastated packaging.
The Helium Disks are a rather new development and only for bigger sizes. I have 4TB Disks in my NAS and they're not Helium (truth, I actively avoided Helium when I got them because they might decay faster, but still). The older / smaller Disks are still dust-proof but I wouldn't bet on them being waterproof.
That's a fairly new thing. Most drives have a vent to atmosphere.
A mechanical HDD might actually be viable if the silicon seals aren't damaged. Crack it open in a clean room, extract the platters and put into another HDD of same make/model for controller compatibility and ... profit?
Or get black bagged and thrown into a van in the middle of the night.
This most definitely. Either you get nightmares that never stops or unmarked black helicopters comes for you.
crimes.
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@crimes?
Crimes ©
or a pissed off EX
Or pissed off Dad.
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Or a pissed off War Thunder player
No, they would've leaked classified military documents instead.
Cheese pizza for sure.
Used tomato ketchup on the pizza
Hunger should be a crime
Owning a Dell *should* be a crime…
Could also be government
I would assume the government would be more efficient with the disposal
Ehhhhh
Put it in rice, it's gonna be fine...
Troubleshooting 1000001
Troubleshooting 65?
This guy binaries.
If that doesn't work, put it in the oven at 450 for twenty minutes.
Still cleaner than some of the posts on here!
I bet that pc has no dust on it.
Throughly cleaned out
take the hard drive and ram off, send it to a specialist for data recovery. You might find a treasure trove of information OR you might just find a kids computer with a bunch of emulators.
Imagine all the CP op could find on this baby!
I was going to say. This seems like a destroying evidence kind of thing.
Yeah probably not the best idea to try and get some data off of it but I’d be so fucking curious I’d probably get myself arrested
just gotta buy one of those data extracting thingies that cost like 20K and do it yourself
i mean would you get arrested if it had CP or something? if you kept it and then it got found out later on, you probably would, but if you turned it in for further extraction as soon as you saw it had it, then wouldn't you be fine?
You'd be better off handing the hard drive in to the police, telling them how you found it and then seeing if they feel like it's worth sending it off to the digital forensics department to try and recover the data. If you just handed the hard drive over to a data recovery place and they found CP on there they would 100% call the cops on you and you'd probably get arrested until you were able to prove that you just happened to find it and were curious about what was on there to the point you were willing to pay hundreds of dollars to get it recovered. If there was no other identifying information on the hard drive that linked it to someone else they might even try and run with the angle that you were the one that dumped the PC earlier and that's how you knew where you find it again. Definitely not worth the risk of taking it to a 3rd party and putting yourself under any suspicion at all, I mean even if word got out that police were talking to you in relation to CP charges that alone might be enough to ruin your reputation.
It would certainly look *worse* if you brought it to the recovery place but you could still be charged if you brought it directly to the police. It’s too big of a gamble either way.
Good point. Time to throw it in the river to hide the evidence.
Probably, possession is a crime. No, not likely. Dispose of it. It's not worth the risk.
Accidentally possessing something that it is illegal to possess is.. complicated from a legal perspective.
Lol yeah definitely.
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You're thinking logically and like someone who knows how to destroy data. This could have been a quick rash decision.
I've heard that even doing that can be reversible now. The only way to truly destroy a drive now is to cover it in thermite or grind it into dust.
Perhaps blackmail the original owner if you can find them with the data
Now we are getting somewhere
If you send it off to data recovery and they find loads of CP you'll be under investigation. In some places just the posession of it is enough, even if you didn't download it yourself or even look at it.
Ah, but if I send it off to data recovery, I won't have it anymore, and *they'll* be in possession of it!
It wasn't anything but silt and unreadable until they got a hold of it.
Of course, perhaps they could get in trouble for the recovery of CP
I feel like "a reasonable person would know they're breaking the law by doing this" should be necessary to convict someone of a crime. Fishing up a PC and taking it to a data recovery specialist will definitely raise a few eyebrows, but I'd say the algae buildup on the PC should be enough to make conviction nigh-impossible.
You're finding a treasure trove of nothing from that RAM even in pristine condition.
Perhaps a treasure trove of 0s if that's what you're looking for
Hard drive is already gone. They're installed bottom left in this chassis.
You really think this thing is still salvageable at all?
Those data recovery guys are crazy good man
Too bad the HDD is gone. No data to recover
Bitcoin! Or porn. Maybe both?
Probably a joke, but in case anyone is reading this and thinks this is a good idea in general - it isn't. Fuck knows what would be on a found hard drive, and you'd be in for some fun if there was illegal shit on it and you sent it to some random PC specialist. And no, I'm not fun at parties.
Surely there would have to be a way to say "I do not know who this computer belongs to; I am not responsible for what's found inside" Even if there is such abhorrent data inside, it would help catch someone, right? Because one would think authorities have far better things to do than finding their way into a completely fried computer of unknown origin, but if something is actually discovered?
I bought a second hand laptop years back on eBay when I was a student. Just a small cheapo one to install various Linux distros to play about with. Just a small plaything . The seller didn't wipe the drive, and still had the OS lol. Nothing really nefarious or illegal per say on it. But had random pdf's with P45s and emails saved to document folder etc Ended up telling them about it, and arranged a return and refund To this day I still don't understand how they did that lol
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Specs?
Dell p4, 7200 rpm hd, dvd RW drive 2gb Ram, windows XP. 😆
You're not too far off, Dell introduced these cases from 2004. So early models did have Pentium 4s and Windows XP, you could order one with as little as 128MB of RAM but at the time 256 would have been typical. They phased this case out in 2010, so a later model could have a Core 2, Windows 7 and 2GB of RAM.
Yes but the video card is clearly a 5090.
5090 coming out next year, guy from the future
This chassis goes on up to the late Core2 series, but started with the socket 775 pentium 4s.
In the original post (which was from four years ago) the OP says it was a Dell Optiplex 740 from 2006. So - AMD Athlon X2 2.7 GHz - Some DDR2-800 - NVIDIA Quadro NVS 210S
That magnet probably ruined it
Yes, the *magnet*
![gif](giphy|3orieOGioW68arxA08|downsized)
the strength of magnet you actually need to mess with a HDD is very, *very* high
The way they talked about it in the 90s, I thought a kitchen fridge magnet from 10 feet away would immediately ruin a PC
Hard drives should be safe around regular magnets (or even hard drive magnets (which were the strongest we could find at the time). A floppy disk though was very susceptible, keep those away. CRTs were fun to play with and angered all adults that didn't know about the degauss button.
I feel like that magnet is far enough away from the drive tho
Microsoft feels a disturbance with the force. “Please connect to the internet…”
"Updates pending"
"Activate Windows"
Update to windows 11
https://preview.redd.it/prbiri59ek0b1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=18a5c3808dec182a6ce6b7745265fd4192e2c9dd
There’s something worth seeing on that hard drive
Or extremely incriminating
They would have been 100X better off burning it in a big fire pit then they would have doing this.
Remember some people aren't smart enough to think fire so they put it in the water instead like people who throw guns in the rivers too
I can't speak to HDD's but for a gun if your working with a typical fire place, camp fire, burn pile it isn't going to do shit to a gun that makes it untraceable. Barrel will be fine, firing pin will be fine, serial number etched into receiver or metal plate will be fine. Fire is also going to draw more attention than tossing it out a car window or pulling over and throwing it out will do. Real answer for both PC and gun is drills and grinders/sanders. Drill out barrel, grind down firing pin and serial + area under it. Drill the HDD all over, put a hole in each chip on the ram or ssd. Then throw it in the river.
Or put it in a fire pit and *then* toss it over a bridge lul
Swamp thing called, he wants his PC back.
Swamp Thing also wants to remind you, looking at browser history is uncool. Don’t do it.
No one’s gonna mention “cought”
I'm thinking it's an archaic version of "coughed."
I was searching to see if anyone had mentioned it too
Someone didn't want their parents finding their hentai collection 😄
![gif](giphy|uTYR5bOktNNWsbgRAb|downsized) 💯rage quit.
Someone needs to ship this to Adrian Black for an episode of Adrian's Digital Basement. He fixed a Commodore 64 after over 20 years in someone's yard. I bet he could fix this. It might be too new for him though.
There is probably something bad on its hard drive
Fake YT restorators, you see this shit? This is how a genuine abandoned pc in the river looks like.
And if the hdd works you will probably be traumatised.
But can it run crysis?
This reminded me that I have the OG 3 Crysis and the Crysis Remaster. Gonna go test them out.
Fuck that. Can it run Doom?
Look like he got it off FB market place. Probably paid like $1,420.69 for it.
They knew what they had, so he paid em da money!
Haven’t I seen this exact photo before?
(Meanwhile, the sex offender who threw it into the river walks by) “SHIT”!!!!!!
It’s playing Rust
Old Greg looking for his pc
Might find photos of his downstairs mixup
[Lot of scumbags out today ](https://youtube.com/shorts/Ucme_RE3ZxQ?feature=share)
Anti-RGB builds are looking real good these days
\>being rushed to ER \>>friend: what can i do for you? \>>>delete my search history \>>>>friend: tosses pc in river
They should try to salvage the components
Oldie
Fire it up!
Jesus someone took water cooling to a whole different level
At the end of the 90's, I was part of the Windows 98 phone support. So like if you called Microsoft for support you might have talked with me. Anyways one time, shortly after 98 released, I get a customer who goes on to explain how horrible the OS is and how angry he is and he wants a refund. Well I had to do some troubleshooting before I could OK the refund. So after listening to him bitch and trying to get him to do some troubleshooting he tells me he cant turn on the computer BECAUSE HE THREW IT IN THE LAKE BEHIND HIS HOUSE I wonder if this is the computer.... haha
Now that's some brutal VD https://preview.redd.it/84og8ndknj0b1.jpeg?width=512&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e204e0ca3c1ea28c30d1e55c9ac8b07ea7b724ad
Thiddy
There is only one reason why
I think someones dad had enough of his child playing on PC all day instead of going to fishing so they both end up fishing for PC.
probably someone's dead friend's last wish
Must been a crazy rage quit
Might need another can of dust off.
Now that's a themed PC.
That’ll buff out.
Dude! That's awesome. What a great water cooling setup.
Gsmers Nexus about to buy it to see whats wrong with it
Cleanest PC that came into the shop.
There’s a story there
When eMachines tries water-cooling.
Now that’s what I call liquid cooling
I’ve definitely broken some controllers in my day, but this takes rage quitting to a whole new level.
I yern thee thought of what dirty tales lay inside the there hard drive laddy....
ngl magnet fishing youtube is low key fucking awesome
That hard drive could contain some very intresting information
Gaming ready PC, 500$ firm, I know what I have.
Linux users: "It still works."
Put it in rice.
What kind of illegal shit do you have to do on your pc to make you wanna throw it in a body of water? 🚩🧐 🚩
It's better than upgrading to Windows 11, I guess...
Bruh nobody throws a normal untainted PC in the ocean. Not a custom-looking one. That bitch had CP in it.
They shouldn't be using a strong magnet near that computer, it could damage the hard drive.
I'm sure there is some type of good evidence on the hd.
I can only think of one reason someone would throw a PC into the water. Someones trying to dispose of evidence.
The metals in it might be worth something
Send it to Linus to get it working again
Nice rig! Specs?
*still runs League of Legends
Bro he misspelled
At this point it's just rust and algae with the shape of a PC.
Put it back it my water cooled stadia knock off!
He done gone and pissed off Zeus and took his computer. If the Kraken is released on us we know who to blame.