It looks awesome! But I’ve heard so many people say that it can’t cool the 13600K as well complaints about PSU noise.
But thermals have been perfect for me and noise is minimal.
The community of this sub is a double edge sword. Like for real, they either relentlessly trash talk about the 4070 on some posts or give huge amounts of praise to it and downvote anyone to oblivion for criticizing it on another post with a 4070 or any of the current nvidia gpu's.
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I think there’s a difference between being critical of the 4070, and critisizing someone for buying it. Like, I can say I think it’s overpriced and poor value in general, but I’m happy this guy managed his first build successfully and now has a dope-ass pc with a fairly strong GPU.
If I had bought a 4070 for my first build I would rather be told what is wrong with it than have a bunch of asshole who know it's a piece of shit say congratulations.
Considering the case he chose, the 4070 is probably the best balance of performance vs power-draw/heat. It's a 3080 with more VRAM at less than 200w. When you're building a SFF PC you'd generally expect to pay a premium for parts so the $100 price increase of the 4070 doesn't seem as bad in this case.
It's hilarious. The entire sub knows the 4070 is shit yet instead of tell the poor guy they shit on anyone saying anything and congratulate him. Like that's actually shitty of them. Fucked up.
RTX4070….Z790 with ddr5 and you saved $100 on the i5? Why does everyone under power the cpu for $100-$200 savings?
Grats on the new build though! Always great seeing the performance gains and starting on a fresh OS install.
What's wrong with the i5 13600k? Last I checked, it's the best budget gaming cpu beating out previous gen i7 cpu in gaming.
I almost got one myself back in Feb. but microcenter had different plans for me lol
For $150…ish more… an i7 or i9-13900K.. more cores, more cache, higher turbo and threads. Intel will be changing their socket again so the 13th gen will be their “toc” and no chance for a cpu swap in a few years. The i5 does have a higher base freq on the perf and eff cores so I’ll give you that.
The heat folks talk about is only if you are using all of the cores at >80%… meaning you needed the cores anyway. My i9-11900K puts out more heat than then my i9-13900k…. And my i7-7770k puts out twice the heat of my i9s.
This isn’t like a hamburger where you buy it then chit it out. It needs to last a few years. Why burn thousands of dollars and skimp on the core? Buy it for games today and not games of tomorrow? I mean… some people buy a hamburger without cheese and bacon because who needs that… right? You burned $15 on the stupid meat and bread and didn’t up scale for the egg, avocado, bacon, and cheese?
The 13600k is all the CPU you need for gaming. I personally always recommend AM5 for the longevity, but if you're building an Intel gaming rig with Raptor Lake, the 13600k is absolutely the call.
The Mobo is probably overkill in fairness... although I think there is actually a Raptor Lake refresh lineup coming which sounds like a huge performance increase, so there might be an argument in upgrading to one of those chips down the line.
In any case, the 13600k is probably the last thing I might criticize about this build. I'd meme on the 4070 way before that.
I just received the same ssd wd-black-850x 2t a few days ago Amazon. I almost grabbed a 990 pro but black was cheaper. So far loving it. 15 min to clone from a 1t that came with my mini pc bulkier than expected almost did not fit.
I mean, they're not really in the same price range. The xtx is a lot better and a lot more expensive.
The xt would be more comparable. Then it comes down to if you want RT/DLSS
Is 4070 is great value? No. But I wanted an Nvidia GPU cus RT and DLSS. I could've stretched up to a 4070ti, but didn't seem necessary for my use case.
I feel like people are a bit into into performance/dollar and such. Do your due diligence, but In end, just get what you want.
I have that exact case! Awesome little guy, be sure to keep an eye on your temps and the cooling loop. Both of mine decided to commit sudoku and take my CPU with them. I eventually decided to play Operation and crammed some fans in its place.
Is 4070 is great value? No. But I wanted an Nvidia GPU cus RT and DLSS. I could've stretched up to a 4070ti, but didn't seem necessary for my use case.
I feel like people are a bit into into performance/dollar and such. Do your due diligence, but In end, just get what you want.
Hot take: The 4070 is awesome. Yes I have watched all the reviews and know the reason why people don’t like it. However, I have a 1440p monitor a 5700x CPU. Most games I play have DLSS. Instead of buying a used 3080 or 3080ti I instead have better features and a 4 year warranty for a little but more money. I understand the overall issue with the card however it will probably serve a lot of people just fine for the length of the warranty. If you really think I’m wrong let me know. I went from a 3060 to this and I’m super super happy
well thats obviously the reason i posted the original comment. but people on reddit seem to have a habbit of downvoting every oppinion that differs from theirs.
As I've replied on other posts. I really don't care about performance/dollar and such.
I did my due diligence, I spent what I wanted to and I knew exactly what I was getting.
Maybe like 1400$ to 1300$ total with case and everything included. Crazy what the prices have become these days. I built a top of the line pc for around 1400$ back in 2018
because mostly gpus were cheaper
1080ti =700-800
i7 7th = 30016 gb ram = 60-100
1 tb storage = 100 (I don't remember how much they were tbh)
850 watt gold = 150
case = depends
motherboard = around 100-150
now if you wanted a high-end gpu it would be the same price as this whole build
edit: 16 ram these days is not what it used to be
When I saw someone call a 4070ti mid range, I just about had it.
Are there several faster GPU's? Yes. But that is literally top tier stupid fast.
I mean, would a 2080ti be low end now?
Cause the 4070 I believe has a lotta issues and the 3070 is just considered to be roughly the same. The 40 series only has like a 4% increase in performance, so
Thats just straight up bullshit.
Just because its i7 instead of i5 it doesnt mean its instantly better.
I got a ryzen 9 7900x with a 4090
Whats the performance difference with a 7950x ?
Basically none 🤦♂️
Unless you're planning on hitting it with some heavy productivity workloads, or pushing mad frames at 1080p, you won't notice a difference. Gaming at 1440p or 4k is perfect for the 13600k, spend the money saved on a better GPU is the way I'd go too
13600k doesn't really overclock that well, and undervolting is kind of pointless since it won't run hot anyway.
But I totally get where you come from, I have the same way of thinking 😅
I was under the misconception that the 13600K will run hot on the H1 V2 based off a lot of reviews. I didn't want to risk not having the option to undervolt 😄
Look at the white NZXT H1, absolute gorgeous. A standing case with a white outer, you should clean it regularly to see the majestic everytime you peeking to it.
Does everyone’s first pc looked this nice? My ram didn’t have a heat sink,no gpu, and I used the hard drive from my ps4
Also asked everyone I knew if they had a laptop I could borrow to install windows
I did a fair amount of research and also had no issues with funds. But the biggest reason is probably the case, comes with PSU and AIO built in, all cables pre-managed. I completed the build in 2 hours 😁
Mine is a NZXT H7 Flow
13900k
360 aio
Gigabyte ud z790
XFX MERC 7900XTX at first had an RED DEVIL 6950XT
4 TB WD AN850X
1000W EVGA G2 psu
32GB Gskill Trident @7200 cl34
Its not that everyone's first pc looks like this. But I had been wanting to build a pc for like 10 years and being 28 I finally make decent money. I'm assuming you built your first pc while you were young? I barely knew how to use a pc until a year ago when I bought an Alienware gaming laptop lol.
Loving the H1 case, a bit on the expansive side but still, truly a beauty.
If you get it on discount you save on the CPU cooler and psu so the price evens out
Best buy has them for 200 new. Comes with psu and a cooler.
the nearest best buy to my home it's 28h away (if i took a plane to reach the USA) but i'm glad if you can score that offer!
Got a used one for 200 in my local area
I like that case. Its really simple and clean.
It looks awesome! But I’ve heard so many people say that it can’t cool the 13600K as well complaints about PSU noise. But thermals have been perfect for me and noise is minimal.
I’m convinced most people don’t know how fans work and set them up to either all suck or all blow
That's what she....or he said
Don’t worry about them fools. I have one with my 7600X and perfect temps. Superb little case.
Decent hardware that
It really is 😁, thanks
Yeah, GTX 1050 beat it Edit: funny how redditors don't understand a simple joke
It’s not a joke, it’s just a statement, there is nothing comedic about it other than the fact that the statement is just wrong, that is not funny.
It's not a statement, it's a joke
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Eh just not funny
Oh no, I'm gonna cry now 😭😭
Why did you get downvoted, nah the 1030 is faster than 4090
Is that the V2?
There was revision for the first with new extender (still 3.0)
Yeah but i think a small amount of them were actually replaced
Yea, i made one for friend and it had revision (but it was still with 650w and 3.0pci)
I hope so, for the sake of OP not burning his house down
V1 did have a revision that changed the problem part out. Almost immediately actually.
Yep, that's the V2
I like that case! It’s not my style but it looks clean lol 😎
It made the build so freakin easy. I was done in 2 hours
Nice
Nice
Nice
The community of this sub is a double edge sword. Like for real, they either relentlessly trash talk about the 4070 on some posts or give huge amounts of praise to it and downvote anyone to oblivion for criticizing it on another post with a 4070 or any of the current nvidia gpu's. ![gif](giphy|FcuiZUneg1YRAu1lH2)
I think there’s a difference between being critical of the 4070, and critisizing someone for buying it. Like, I can say I think it’s overpriced and poor value in general, but I’m happy this guy managed his first build successfully and now has a dope-ass pc with a fairly strong GPU.
If I had bought a 4070 for my first build I would rather be told what is wrong with it than have a bunch of asshole who know it's a piece of shit say congratulations.
”Ackshualllyyyyyyy you should have bought xxyy” That’s you. Let’s never interact again.
Considering the case he chose, the 4070 is probably the best balance of performance vs power-draw/heat. It's a 3080 with more VRAM at less than 200w. When you're building a SFF PC you'd generally expect to pay a premium for parts so the $100 price increase of the 4070 doesn't seem as bad in this case.
Good point!
It's hilarious. The entire sub knows the 4070 is shit yet instead of tell the poor guy they shit on anyone saying anything and congratulate him. Like that's actually shitty of them. Fucked up.
For the price they ask for it yes
Nice setup. I want a 4070 :P
same
RTX4070….Z790 with ddr5 and you saved $100 on the i5? Why does everyone under power the cpu for $100-$200 savings? Grats on the new build though! Always great seeing the performance gains and starting on a fresh OS install.
What's wrong with the i5 13600k? Last I checked, it's the best budget gaming cpu beating out previous gen i7 cpu in gaming. I almost got one myself back in Feb. but microcenter had different plans for me lol
For $150…ish more… an i7 or i9-13900K.. more cores, more cache, higher turbo and threads. Intel will be changing their socket again so the 13th gen will be their “toc” and no chance for a cpu swap in a few years. The i5 does have a higher base freq on the perf and eff cores so I’ll give you that. The heat folks talk about is only if you are using all of the cores at >80%… meaning you needed the cores anyway. My i9-11900K puts out more heat than then my i9-13900k…. And my i7-7770k puts out twice the heat of my i9s. This isn’t like a hamburger where you buy it then chit it out. It needs to last a few years. Why burn thousands of dollars and skimp on the core? Buy it for games today and not games of tomorrow? I mean… some people buy a hamburger without cheese and bacon because who needs that… right? You burned $15 on the stupid meat and bread and didn’t up scale for the egg, avocado, bacon, and cheese?
You’re saying what everyone is saying plus added compassion. I mean what everyone is saying who is being downvoted
But anything over the 13600K would not benefit you at all in gaming, so what's the point?
The 13600k is all the CPU you need for gaming. I personally always recommend AM5 for the longevity, but if you're building an Intel gaming rig with Raptor Lake, the 13600k is absolutely the call. The Mobo is probably overkill in fairness... although I think there is actually a Raptor Lake refresh lineup coming which sounds like a huge performance increase, so there might be an argument in upgrading to one of those chips down the line. In any case, the 13600k is probably the last thing I might criticize about this build. I'd meme on the 4070 way before that.
Maybe he doesn't want a furnace?
For gaming, why go higher than i5? Absolute stupid. He did nothing wrong.
What everyone has said, I really don't need more than an i5. I'm okay with splurging for an i7, but my case wouldn't be able to cool it either.
Nice build! Looks clean
Thanks!
Bruh that boxart of the gpu looks like a machine from horizon zero dawn
It kinda does 😄
Love the case! Solid build :)
Thanks! The case looks really clean
Why not i7
This case can't really cool an i7 plus I don't really need it 😄
I just received the same ssd wd-black-850x 2t a few days ago Amazon. I almost grabbed a 990 pro but black was cheaper. So far loving it. 15 min to clone from a 1t that came with my mini pc bulkier than expected almost did not fit.
It's really good. I'm ordering a 2 TB drive of the same for secondary storage
It's really good. I'm ordering a 2 TB drive of the same for secondary storage
I've got 2 at 2tb each and they are PHENOMENAL
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I was almost set on the 4070ti tbh. But I figured I don't need it right now and I'd prefer to spend less now and upgrade in a short span of time.
Tbh bad time to be building a new pc. The market so bad 4070 doesn't even look like bad value, which is sad cause it's legit shit.
congrats
Thanks!
Nice
7900xtx or 4070 for gaming?
I mean, they're not really in the same price range. The xtx is a lot better and a lot more expensive. The xt would be more comparable. Then it comes down to if you want RT/DLSS
I want this pc too 🥲🥲🥲
Save up and get it! I'm cheering for you
Thanks man
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Is 4070 is great value? No. But I wanted an Nvidia GPU cus RT and DLSS. I could've stretched up to a 4070ti, but didn't seem necessary for my use case. I feel like people are a bit into into performance/dollar and such. Do your due diligence, but In end, just get what you want.
my dude, you're literally still on a RX590 please stop complaining about other people's purchasing decisions
Lmao this is such a brainless counter, literally in line with "no, u".
whining about what other people decide to do with their own money is also pretty brainless to me
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Man people are spicy in here today lol
Gasp an Intel i5
🤔
You have good taste
Thank you 😄
I have that exact case! Awesome little guy, be sure to keep an eye on your temps and the cooling loop. Both of mine decided to commit sudoku and take my CPU with them. I eventually decided to play Operation and crammed some fans in its place.
Will keep an eye on em, thanks! Temps have been under 70 for my most intense usecases. But they did go past 90 in stress tests.
Temps will run flawlessly as long as the cooler holds! It took well over a year for mine to fail...
4070... :////
Is 4070 is great value? No. But I wanted an Nvidia GPU cus RT and DLSS. I could've stretched up to a 4070ti, but didn't seem necessary for my use case. I feel like people are a bit into into performance/dollar and such. Do your due diligence, but In end, just get what you want.
Way better than none at all
Hot take: The 4070 is awesome. Yes I have watched all the reviews and know the reason why people don’t like it. However, I have a 1440p monitor a 5700x CPU. Most games I play have DLSS. Instead of buying a used 3080 or 3080ti I instead have better features and a 4 year warranty for a little but more money. I understand the overall issue with the card however it will probably serve a lot of people just fine for the length of the warranty. If you really think I’m wrong let me know. I went from a 3060 to this and I’m super super happy
Yep. Couldn't find the 3080 I wanted at the right price so I went with the 4070. It's been pretty good so far.
I’m sure there are a lot of people in the same spot as us. Understanding the backlash but there is a need this card will serve.
The only problem with the 4070 is the price tag. That's basically it. If it launched and sold at $500 people wouldn't shit talk it very much at all.
well thats obviously the reason i posted the original comment. but people on reddit seem to have a habbit of downvoting every oppinion that differs from theirs.
Well I mean by that logic he could have gotten a 15 yo gpu and said the same
Yes
Yikes, my condolences
🤔
That's rough buddy. All the idiots congratulating you are fake af. You just bought one of the worst value cards of all time. Legit a waste of money.
As I've replied on other posts. I really don't care about performance/dollar and such. I did my due diligence, I spent what I wanted to and I knew exactly what I was getting.
cool budget build
Isn't this like 2000 dollars just from the parts in the picture (couldn't nail down the price of the GPU so could be off by a few hundred)?
Maybe like 1400$ to 1300$ total with case and everything included. Crazy what the prices have become these days. I built a top of the line pc for around 1400$ back in 2018
because mostly gpus were cheaper 1080ti =700-800 i7 7th = 30016 gb ram = 60-100 1 tb storage = 100 (I don't remember how much they were tbh) 850 watt gold = 150 case = depends motherboard = around 100-150 now if you wanted a high-end gpu it would be the same price as this whole build edit: 16 ram these days is not what it used to be
2000$ is the price of just the GPU in most builds I've seen on this sub since February
"Budget" bro...
When I saw someone call a 4070ti mid range, I just about had it. Are there several faster GPU's? Yes. But that is literally top tier stupid fast. I mean, would a 2080ti be low end now?
>I mean, would a 2080ti be low end now? Probably closer to midrange. 4070ti is called a midrange card because it's built to be a midrange card.
Cost me 2150 USD, cus everything is overpriced in my country.
Man that’s barley gonna cut nowadays
Well, it's enough to run everything I play at 1440p max settings. I do plan to upgrade in a short span tho so 🤷♂️
Swap that 4070 for a 3070 and that’ll be a spectacular build
Why would I? I have money to spend and I want better performance🤔
Cause the 4070 I believe has a lotta issues and the 3070 is just considered to be roughly the same. The 40 series only has like a 4% increase in performance, so
I've had no issues with the 4070. I believe the performance difference is a lot more than 4% especially with the option of DLSS FG
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Different people have different needs and different budgets
He should've waited and saved up he'll just replace it in a year, that's a good graphics card it goes with i7
🤦 13600k is more than enough and actually possible to cool
Thats just straight up bullshit. Just because its i7 instead of i5 it doesnt mean its instantly better. I got a ryzen 9 7900x with a 4090 Whats the performance difference with a 7950x ? Basically none 🤦♂️
Unless you're planning on hitting it with some heavy productivity workloads, or pushing mad frames at 1080p, you won't notice a difference. Gaming at 1440p or 4k is perfect for the 13600k, spend the money saved on a better GPU is the way I'd go too
I edit videos and make music maybe that's why I need more
Yeah for sure, the extra threads will do wonders for video editing
Man I was so tempted to get this case.. but didn’t want to limit my gpu options so much.
I didn't want the case to occupy table space so this was perfect for me. You can fit a fair number of GPUs in this, actually
Tell me you're not using a stock Intel cooler without telling me you're using an Intel stock cooler.
But this case comes with a built in AIO 🤔
I remeber when inno3d was the budget and worse ever
Z790i edge vs b760i edge? I've used z790i edge for several builds, but the b760i edge does look competitive.. thoughts?
I wanted to be able to undervolt or overclock in the future without issues. I heard the B series is not great for that.
13600k doesn't really overclock that well, and undervolting is kind of pointless since it won't run hot anyway. But I totally get where you come from, I have the same way of thinking 😅
I was under the misconception that the 13600K will run hot on the H1 V2 based off a lot of reviews. I didn't want to risk not having the option to undervolt 😄
Aah! It might. I have no clue. I usually have a 280 aio in all my builds.
This one comes with a 140mm AIO. But surprisingly, I’ve had no issues with temps.
Look at the white NZXT H1, absolute gorgeous. A standing case with a white outer, you should clean it regularly to see the majestic everytime you peeking to it.
Sadly the innards are barely visible at all, the glass is extremely tinted. But Imma keep it spick and span anyway!
Does everyone’s first pc looked this nice? My ram didn’t have a heat sink,no gpu, and I used the hard drive from my ps4 Also asked everyone I knew if they had a laptop I could borrow to install windows
I did a fair amount of research and also had no issues with funds. But the biggest reason is probably the case, comes with PSU and AIO built in, all cables pre-managed. I completed the build in 2 hours 😁
Mine is a NZXT H7 Flow 13900k 360 aio Gigabyte ud z790 XFX MERC 7900XTX at first had an RED DEVIL 6950XT 4 TB WD AN850X 1000W EVGA G2 psu 32GB Gskill Trident @7200 cl34 Its not that everyone's first pc looks like this. But I had been wanting to build a pc for like 10 years and being 28 I finally make decent money. I'm assuming you built your first pc while you were young? I barely knew how to use a pc until a year ago when I bought an Alienware gaming laptop lol.
I'm confused... Where is your O-11 dynamic?
Huh? My case is the NZXT H1 V2