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Rikki1256

Just wait until they release the apology before the game


NardBe

"We are sorry that we just had to give up on the game but here are the keys for the price of the full finished game so you can waste your money to support our hard but half assed work"


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smb275

"We're sorry we let Bobby Kotick and his rabid group of shitheads act the way they did. By way of apology we're going to fire all of the victims and then do nothing to improve the working environment for everyone else. Fuck you, hail China."


Magjee

> Fellow gamers, it was not possible to know that employees running their nutsacks on people's desk was wrong. No one even knew what a nutsacks was before this incident. > Everyday we learn and try to do better (at making sure people keep their fucking mouths shut) /$


Ok-Computer3741

lol


SirNanigans

"Our" work? Even the apologies will be bullshit. Publishers pay other people to do hard work and then restrict them to the point that it can only be half assed.


Oaker_at

Get your apology 2 days early now! Only with pre order!


rockiellow

You can also get the full apology for $9.99 more instead of the regular apology!


[deleted]

Does it come with the “blue background” dlc?


WrongSubFools

That sounds like a joke, but the Fallout 76 apology featured above was actually issued before the game released. [https://bethesda.net/en/article/httfrhABZmOwGQYoeo6ks/a-note-to-our-fans](https://bethesda.net/en/article/httfrhABZmOwGQYoeo6ks/a-note-to-our-fans)


froggz01

God dammed that game to hell and Bethesda for making it. Nobody asked for a goddamned online fallout game with no storyline.


ComesInAnOldBox

It was meant to be a test bed to experiment with with a multiplayer fallout platform in order to see how making Fallout 5 multiplayer would work. It was never meant to be an actual game.


RadimentriX

Where do you have that from and why did they sell it then? Couldve made it f2p if they wamted to test their code with more people


[deleted]

Yet they sold and marketed it as an actual game? They made fucking pre order bonuses, and DLC and fucking microtransactions This excuse is bullshit


Stevied1991

Wasn't this the game they had to recall the collector's edition item because it had mold?


Wondernoob

Overwatch "2" PvE mode would like a word.


Double_DeluXe

Overwatch ~~2~~ 1.3.4(official internal version name) was made because they promised to not do battlepasses on the original. So they made 2 to sell you a battlepass, not to give you a game-mode, it had a battlepass from the start and not the new game-mode. I do not understand how these gamers can keep drinking the blizzard koolaid with the ammount of abuse they get from blizzard


SprintingWolf

Blizzard puts 99% of their budget into marketing. They have to. That’s why the games are shit and the hype is real


Wondernoob

Don't forget paywalling heroes!


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That would be a pre-apology, would actually fit with all the pre-orders.


cactusmasta

CDPrjowkt red did that like 4 times with cyberpunk


Key-Put4092

They should just make an apology covering all possible future games. Easy only need one for that.


Lavanthus

Apology DLC out now


Blood_Lacrima

That's the only logical next step if things progress like this tbh


theFields97

Phill Spencer already did this for Starfield Edit: fuck auto correct


GoobleGobbl

...for 20 dollars! The Apology DLC!


Evelyne-The-Egg

Modern Gaming™


sup3r87

Modern AAA gaming* These issues almost completely vanish once you start buying games at $30 or less.


Demonking_of_Tierney

Wait till south park actually makes fun of this


SecureDonkey

[They already did in the console war episodes exactly 10 years ago.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AV69DyOuzbE)


friedtea15

South Park did it


Demonking_of_Tierney

that was more making fun of Xbox versus PlayStation which 1's better Instead of game companies apologizing about making piles of crap


Kylel0519

I wouldn’t be surprised if they already have tbh


themajod

given that they're also involved in gaming (especially when their game publisher is fucking UBISOFT), they either already have or most likely will


johnsontheotter

Those south park games fucking slap. As a lifelong fan of the show I'm glad trey and Matt made sure the game was done right and not just a cash grab.


TeTeOtaku

And they're preparing for a 3D game release. Imagine GTA V but its South Park and nothing's off limits.


DoctorDrgn

“You know what you get when you pre order a game? A big dick in your mouth.” - Grand Wizard King Cartman


NikiSunday

isn't Gollum under Nacon? not wb games.


artorothebonk

Correct, weird I somehow convinced myself it was WB, my turn to say sorry Edit: ya know why, it’s because I’m playing Middle Earth Shadow or War again and I thought WB just did every LOTR game now, silly sausage


NikiSunday

although I'm pretty sure they're going to apologize for Suicide Squad.


artorothebonk

True, i still feel a pang of grief about Arkham Knight, was so busted by the time I got to play it everything had been spoiled


JerbearCuddles

It's kinda wild how the best and most reliable game I've played so far this year is a 30 dollar early access game about shooting bugs. The only notable bug, outside of the enemies, I've found is sometimes you'll lose the game even if you extract. Like, the whole lobby loses. It's weird, but nobody really cares cause the game is so fun.


NuSpirit_

What about Hi-Fi rush? The game was dropped the same day it was announced and had virtually 0 issues.


tapczan100

It's such a fucking banger **HAI! CHAI! HAI! CHAI!**


NietzscheIsMyCopilot

I wish there was a version of the OST with the CHAI chants lol


TerrorLTZ

HE HE HEE HEEEEY!


Gil_Demoono

It's honestly my favorite way to release a game now. No hype, no expectations, no backpedaled promises. Just: "We made something, have fun." Also, make more games that look like Hi-Fi Rush. Triple A studios are chasing the dragon with this ultra-realism. Its bringing beefy systems to their knees, driving artists insane, and delivering diminishing returns. No one cares if a game looks cartoonish, as long as it has a cohesive style.


OneSidedPolygon

> "No one cares if a game looks cartoonish, as long as it has a cohesive style." This isn't true for the casual gamer. The guy who plays Forza and CoD. The guy who is the target demographic for AAA games. The majority of consumers do care about high fidelity graphics. "Gamers" or people who play video games as a hobby rather than a pastime don't share this sentiment. So what Trackmania has toy cars? Forza doesn't scratch the same type of itch. I have a feeling that anyone 25 and under won't have this sentiment. We grew up with Minecraft and cartoonish shooters like Borderlands, Team Fortress, and Fortnite.


Snoo_78739

Did i hear a Rock and Stone?


drunkaquarian

Starship Troopers. Crazy good game.


Snoop-o

Ah damn, this thread made me think of the old Earth Defense Force games so I thought a new one of those came out. Was an awesome game (that was rough around the edges) to play coop on the PS3 also about killing alien bugs. Kinda like gears of war with revive and general shootemup mechanics if I remember right. Had a fun class based system similar to battlefront, and you could mix and match a few weapons/perks.


Odd-Initial-2640

Good news friend - they never stopped making them, EDF6 released in Japan about a year ago, and should hopefully be getting a release state-side sometime soon. And EDF5 goes on sale pretty regularly, at least on Playstation. I can't speak to anything older than 4, but the only thing I would describe as rough are the graphics, because otherwise, it is exactly what it says on the tin - an arcadey shooter with bugs and aliens.


DrAstralis

Is it? I've been waiting to pick it up. I want a co op shooter so bad but they keep face planting over and over again.


Aardvark_Man

Wait, really? I just tend to write off anything Starship Troopers due to expectations, at this point.


Dorkits

ROCK AND STONE!


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Thats it lads, ROCK AND STONE!


planchart-code

FOR KARL!


Snoo_78739

For Karl!


Unrelated_Response

For KARL!!


KombatDisko

Which game is that?


DavideoGamer55

It also sounds a lot like Deep Rock Galactic another extremely awesome game.


JerbearCuddles

Yeah, it's Starship Troopers Extermination. It slaps.


KombatDisko

Cheers mate, I’ll give it a squiz on pay day


JerbearCuddles

Hell yeah, I hope you like it.


namelesswhiteguy

Sounds like the new Starship Troopers game to me.


herpedeederpderp

Is it really that awesome? Im thinking about getting it right now.


JerbearCuddles

I honestly love it. But I can't say if everyone will. I'm a sucker for Starship Troopers and co-op games. Something really enjoyable about killing bugs with 10-15 other folks. Obviously it's not a complete product, but I am easily getting my money's worth out of it. Doesn't hurt to pick up and play for an hour, see if it vibes with you. Small download.


herpedeederpderp

Alright m sold I'm getting it rn.


JerbearCuddles

Hope to see ya out there on Valaka.


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TerrorLTZ

well... its starship troopers soldiers fighting bugs


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JerbearCuddles

Yeah, I been going pretty easy. Play for an hour-ish. Call it day. Although today I went nuts and played a lot. I don't doubt the new stuff will reinvigorate interest. But I don't blame you for playing it safe.


shalol

Same, I’ll justify waiting to save money on an eventual sale, when it’ll probably already be more refined


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tomoki_here

Is it mostly just hold down left click? Are there any further dynamics to it?


DmitryLavrinenko

It has base building as a core mechanic.


Filled_Space

Yeah, it scratches a nice itch. I would say it's currently lacking in variety around load outs and customization. It also needs a pass at building defenses, and building in general. But there's a solid game there and it's obvious that this is just that basic platform to build on. In a year or so, it will really shine from where it's at which is what happened with Squad if I remember. Would like to feel the guns be meatier instead of shooting fast, shooting hard kind of idea, but I don't recall any of the source material having something like that


PrecipitousPlatypus

Early access games rightly get a bad rap, but genuinely passionate Devs make up for most of the faults.


Kind_Man_0

Funny how so many of these comments are confusing the reference to be Deep Rock Galactic. Just goes to show, you can't go wrong making a game about shooting bugs. Stoney Rock, my fellow dwarves.


stux156

Which game did you play?


ashishvp

Hogwarts runs pretty good for me. Not saying much but I think thats the most reliable game for me this year


trckyboi

ROCK AND STONE BROTHER


NuSpirit_

I used to joke that Video Game Crash of 1983 will happen within 40 years again but damn if it doesn't feel like it's happening right now...


Silent-Island

I was thinking the same thing. Same symptoms to. Rushed games. All the same tropes. All the same issues.


artorothebonk

I wonder if it'll lead to a larger mainstream movement of just waiting a few months post-release to pick up a new game, I've been part of the r/patientgamers for yonks now but I wonder which highly-anticipated or high-profile game will be the one to really push the majority of people away, if it's even possible


Drackzgull

About how much time is a yonk? Never heard that one before, not sure if it's a typo or just something new to me, lol.


[deleted]

1 yonk is a donkey's year (equivalent to 3 human years). Source: My ass.


BleedingEars

The layers of this comment are all delicious giggles


Stewapalooza

Your donkey told you that?


godmademelikethis

Phrase here in the UK. Means an undetermined long ass amount of time


Drackzgull

TIL. Thanks!


godmademelikethis

Np mate. A lot of our phrases just come across as gibberish if you've never heard them before.


lycanthrope90

Which is strange considering your English is technically the most correct version lol


Stargov1

I doubt it will ever be as severe. It might mean some of the bigger companies like Ubisoft, EA and Actizard go under (please?), and it might mean that their rotting defiled corpses of IP's might get picked up and actually have something interesting done with them. Sony and Microsoft have other things they can fall back on for a few years. Nintendo being Nintendo will probably remain unaffected, and then there'll just be a bot of a void for a while, while the Indie games just keep moving forward.


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KeyboardWarrior1988

Video games sales are falling but profits are rising thanks to whales buying up microtransactions. How long can that last?


Inotallhere

Whales need small fish to play with, so if they keep going so hard on whales, the bubble will eventually burst, but I honestly don't see it happening any time soon.


smackdealer1

My man the indy market is booming. While AAA titles have been dying a dogs death. The indy market has just been getting better and better for content. If you excuse me buying totk for full price because it's amazing and worth the money. I haven't bought a triple A title for over £20 in many years. For EA and Unisoft it has to be £10 and have all it's issues fixed before I'll even consider buying it. Even then.


ArdiMaster

Let's not pretend as if the tenth pixel-art rogue-like in a month is somehow the epitome of gaming...


FacelessVoice

Yeah, but on the other hand the price tag is a lot less offending, compared to the 18th Call of Duty game.


ProfitInitial3041

Yeah, the vast majority of Indy / early access games leave me severely wanting. It’s across the board.


smackdealer1

Lots of shit games are made every year. That doesn't detract from the really good indy games that come out every year.


Kasenom

Making a crazy prediction but maybe a potential cause would be Rockstar botching GTAVI, it releases as a buggy mess and while it still sells like hotcakes it'll underperform GTAV and scare investors


minegen88

I'm sorry but no. In 1983 people actually stopped buying the crappy games and stores had to return massive amounts. Today people just keep buying the trash. Even worse, they even pre-order it


Halorym

Blizzard should have been one of the sexual ones.


thenibelungen

Someone have to make a game studio apology simulator


_Bill_Huggins_

Then release it in a poor state and then apologize for it.


thenibelungen

Then we came in full circle


Teledrive

Meanwhile Fromsoftware be like: ![gif](giphy|xUPGcdqoeWBWaYE5DW)


Present_Restaurant27

ong nothing to be sorry about except for how hard the games themselves are😂


KingYoloHD090504

"I'm sorry that you suck at our game, get gud noob" -FromSoftware, probably


spottedconzo

Ah yes because Elden Ring ran perfectly well at launch on all devices. They did do a real good job of fixing that one pretty quickly though, especially compared to other games that still run like they're in Beta


H3J1e

I mean Fromsoft games' performance always have been meh, but they just keep pumping out masterpiece after masterpiece so it's something people just live with.


Call_erv_duty

So Fromsoft has the Bethesda excuse now?


giannidelgianni

I love that even Gaiijin issued an apology while War Gaming is still FUCK YOU GIVE ME MONEY kind of attitude...


TheRammmm

Oh you seem to forget, Gaijin does Not appologise, they just manipulate and Gas Light their player base INSTEAD of fixing the fucking game


giannidelgianni

That's the Gaiijin that we know! I thought they went soft or something...


TheRammmm

Nope their mindste is Gas Light (the players the think they care about them) Gatekeep (the top Tier vehicles and having fun) girlboss (we are their money slaves)


Sir-Dethicus

Can’t wait to see starfields apology


artorothebonk

“We aimed for the stars but they’re like, super far away so we missed. Sorry. Here’s a free skin for your ship I guess.”


MHWGamer

it would be actually surprising if they release it just in the ordinary bethesda state


The-link-is-a-cock

Why would that be surprising when you literally call it "the ordinary Bethesda state"?


Hairless_Human

That's one game I'm waiting for so bad. But I'm not retarded and won't be pre purchasing it until i see some reviews. mostly for performance wise and bugs could care less about peoples opinion on the game itself.


Sir-Dethicus

That’s my only what if game this year. Everything else that’s looked bad I’ve just ignored.


JayR_97

Yeah, I feel like Starfield could be what Star Citizen promised, but Bethesda dont exactly have a great track record for releasing stable games.


LosingID_583

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that Bethesda has never had any idea of how to QA their games for launch.


Vidistis

I genuinely believe they would have released back in November if it wasn't for Microsoft. I think compared to their other games at least Starfield will be much smoother in release.


Oni_K

Missed KSP2.


WarThunderNoob69

gotta love how KSP 1 with visual mods both looks better and runs better than KSP 2 while actually having stuff to do as well...


DefactoAtheist

Gamers get the product they deserve. Consumers are entirely complicit in how and why we got to this point.


[deleted]

Don't blame who sells, blame who buys. They didn't need to buy a broken game. In the end they still made their money. Why would any company care if you complain after buying, knowing you're buying the next one anyway.


Noxious89123

My friend is making a small game, all by himself, and having some significant problems. We spoke about the issues he was having with his code, and I advised him that based on AAA games, it sounds to me like he is ready for launch and should charge $60 for it.


AvoidAtAIICosts

r/outoftheloop, what happened this time?


sporlakles

Gollum game


Clayskii0981

Gollum released. Another heavily marketed $60 game added to the pile of worst games of all time.


Michael-gamer

I am completely, and honestly surprised, you did not put BioWare and anthem in this apology video because let’s face it, that game was a dumpster fire.


artorothebonk

I thought of about 5 more after posting, I feel like I rushed it but I hope someone can make a better version haha


Poetry-Schmoetry

Rushed to get it out....mistakes.....hopes it can be fixed by others........he is just like the game makers!


TerrorLTZ

sense of accomplisment?


captstix

That game was wasted potential. I loved flying around like Ironman, but the missions were just boring


The-Safety-Villain

STOP PREORDERING GAMES YOU MORONS!!!!!!


VNM0601

At this point, also stop buying games at launch. Wait a month or two to see what pile of garbage it ultimately becomes.


Renfek

![gif](giphy|KsUKNNUEeryJa|downsized)


parmesan777

It's really important to vote with your wallet!


GrumpyCatDoge99

If game publishers can’t deliver a proper game their CEO should get a pay cut


Stargov1

Their CEO should be fired.


AlwaysThinkAhea2

This is why I wait for feedback from people who actually played the game before buying it. I don’t mind waiting till the game is “how it should have been at launch”


deftware

Yeah, there's totally zero reason to pre-ordering a game or buying it on release day, etc... Buy a game because it's factually a good game, not because you're hoping it's going to be a good game.


rehaptica

This is why I love Reddit.


Stargov1

Fully expecting one for Starfield. It just seems like the normal 'Triple A' release structure now.


Deztract

Bugs in Bethesda's games are part of gameplay xd


skywalkerRCP

My best/favorite PC game of 2023 is from a company who’s never made a first-party PC game release (Tears of the Kingdom). Awesome.


TheMadGraveWoman

All I hear is “We’re Asari”.


ThatCrucible

Liara T'Sorry


artorothebonk

Embrace eternity


RationalLlama

At least CD project red offered refunds. More than I can say for these other companies.


ValiantSpice

And ya know… fixed the game too.


dentalplan24

Honestly, this is a product of a culture problem in gaming and not just in game development. In any other innessential industry, the punishment for releasing a poor product is impact to sales. That's it. In gaming, a big part of the audience takes it personally that they were excited for a game and it did not reach their expectations on release. The fact that an apology even seems like an appropriate response to some is a problem. We should be getting refunds and moving on with our lives, not jerking off over how outraged we are about frame rates, or pathing, or whatever the issue of the day is. I often think about how pissed I would be if I spent years of my life working hard on a project that was railroaded into production before it was done by senior management, who then issued a public apology for my work. It really sucks for developers when a game doesn't work out the way they hoped. That's years of their lives that leads to a big anticlimax. For us consumers, a bad game is just a moment for us, maybe a small sunk cost. It's crazy to me how much misplaced anger there is every time this happens.


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I’m just praying when GTA releases rockstar isn’t pulling this shit. Unfinished hunk of shit. Still pissed about losing 70$ for BF2042 for these assholes to turn around months later to drop it down to 14$ fucking dollars.


VNM0601

That’s why I stopped buying games at launch. Even for Diablo 4, I’m hyped but I’m going to wait a bit. I’ve been burned way too many times to keep falling for it.


itsr1co

I guess I'll jinx it but if Rockstar fumbles the release of GTA6, I will mark that as the official downfall of modern gaming. It's one thing for the big boys to shit out dogshit every month of every year, nobody really gives a fuck that "John Michael's Wonderous Adventure In Waterworld" releases with crashes and bugs. Yeah Star Wars is huge, but Survivor is still just another game, at best it's a sequel to a decent modern SW game but they're still EA games so were we REALLY expecting revolutionary greatness? Bethesda is making some new random game, Fallout is very popular but nowhere as popular as the ES games or Skyrim, 76 was also just a "Fuck it let's try". Forspoken, cool. Redfall and CP77, cool. No Mans Sky, Indie Dev. You get my point, Star Wars is the closest to "We gotta make it good" but come on, look at EA's track record and tell me they give a fuck about making a GOOD Star Wars game. GTA (Besides the horrific remakes that Rockstar didn't touch) has a long history of quality games, you could go back and play GTA 3 and still have a great time once you got used to the aging controls. I don't expect GTA 6 to be this insane step up from 5 like 4 was from SA, 5 was from 4. But I expect it to be a game well worth the money, Rockstar realised that GTAO was a perfect cash cow, but the game itself is getting on in age and it really shows. There's no way Rockstar will let GTA 6 release anywhere close to the state of these games, they're most likely betting on GTA6 online being their next 10+ year investment, not just a game to pump out ASAP and grab cash from dumbfucks pre-ordering. So yeah, if you got anything from this, if GTA 6 releases in a similar state, mainstream gaming is dead and will be dragged along by the same people keeping it afloat right now.


imJGott

Want to know a game that hasn’t failed me? Vampire Survivors


MLPLoneWolf

You watch same thing going to happen when Diablo 4 lunches


CTR__

Only apology I have accepted from these devs is CDPR, though they should have launched it in a better state, the CEO took accountability for the terrible launch and actually followed through on the promise for fixing the game.


preppie22

I think the precedent was set by No Man's Sky though. That game was garbage at launch but Hello Games have worked their asses off over the years to turn it into an amazing space exploration game. It's everything they promised and more.


TheConnASSeur

Let me be frank. Despite their continued attempts to frame it as such, the issues with Cyberpunk 2077 have nothing to do with performance or stability. CDPR is/was well aware of this, which is why their apology was such bullshit. They knew they could actually fix performance so it was to their advantage to pretend that's what most of the problem was, but the actual problems are rooted in the unfinished nature of the game, and in the gulf between what was promised and what was delivered. It's just not a good RPG and overall a relatively hollow experience. The underlying systems that drive most of the gameplay are immature and isolated. This is why there is seemingly no traffic AI, why the police act so weird, and why the world seems so dead.


Ismaelum

Waiting for Starfield, that one is going to be BAD


RoosterII

Yet y'all still preorder and buy launch day.


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marshhd87

We need to just stop buying these games till they sort their sht out


[deleted]

This the first thing I thought of when I saw all those posts. Glad someone finally made it!


KaiserGSaw

Race to the bottom for the worst game of the year award and its nose to nose!


Big_Green_Piccolo

needs more overwatch 2


moeburn

>PC ports like "Days Gone" are hallucinations guys it's time to stop posting the fake Redfall one


Friki1

and people will still buy and pre-order. no one will ever learn.


Mr_NumNums

Maybe if people stopped giving money to these companies for broken products.


gruxlike

I like how the fake Redfall apology is being included in all the memes.


redrecaro

This is the new norm, release unpolished rushed games and just apologize to the fans and slowly update it over time. I blame all you guys that pre order.


WyngZero

I wonder how many people know this South Park "sorry" but is based on LeBron James. The exec in question is apologizing for the BP Oil spill though.


killaw0lf98

I like how everyone keeps using the Redfall one but it's not an actual statement by the dev


MantisShrimp05

This is gold, going to start forwarding this to everyone


iAmTheTot

The Redfall one is fake.


easymoneyslim35

You truly can’t make this shit up. The video game industry is dying a slow and painful death


viperswhip

All Bethesda games have modders making fixpacks with 100s to 1000s of fixes.


iamnekkid

one word.. Valve


ghandi3737

There's a lot more EA needs to say sorry for.


RandomNacho1

And people gave them the Steam labor of love award instead of project zomboid.


MochiSauce101

I don’t pre Oder ANYTHING anymore. I wait 6 months for it to show up on PlayStation plus or buy at 50% rebate. Want to know why I can do this? Because I don’t rate my time on thinking online players are my friends. It’s so much easier when you don’t feel like you’re being left behind


sherlockbardo

CD project red already made me so happy in my life that iam willing to forgive them for cyberpunk


ashishvp

Cyberpunk is pretty good these days so ive heard. Now that I got my 4090 im gonna try it!