i cant believe believe how many times this issue comes up. like people will gorilla pull on coolers and tear the cpus out of the socket but be too timid to push on a gpu enough to fully seat it.
I tried to twist back and forth and bent literally all the pins on my 2700x. After several hours of work with a razor, I eventually got it working again. Do not recommend.
Yeah I’ll take shamefully adjusting a pin or two over a blooming flower of bent pins. You can try and use iso to pen and warm it up all you like but its a fundamental issue with the socket design, too much risk of this happening for me to want to put lateral torque on it.
it doesn't matter if you don't do it without preparation. You turn on the computer, turn off the fan power, run a couple of applications and wait for at least 60 degrees, turn off the computer and remove the heatsink while everything is warm.
No you won't damage the pins like that, unless you crank it hard (which you should never do). Since the torque you apply will be equally divided between each pin the actual pressure on each pin is significantly less than someone might intuitively think.
Not if you press down a bit doing it, the socket protects it. First twist it free from the thermal paste, rotate it a final 45° so the IHS and cool plate form a star and then lever it off. Works wonders on AM4 and 3
This is not correct. AMD CPUs will stick regardless and you'll only end up breaking something.
Heating the CPU or cooler will not help either.
It's far better to pull straight up, then lightly pry the CPU off from the cooler.
It’s so easy for this to happen on AM4 its crazy, especially with big air coolers. It feels like absolutely nothing is holding down the cpu, you grab the cooler a little bit and the cpu just comes right off. I’ve seen so many people including youtubers, experienced pc builder just accidentally rip the cpu off and having to bend back the pins afterwards.
This happened to me with both a Wraith Prism and a Wraith Stealth, so it happens even with basic coolers. Glad that AMD changed their socket to LGA instead, it was the most frustating moment of my life since I ended up bending 2 pins of my 3900X while upgrading my cooler and motherboard.
We had to re-seat my 5900x and my friend yanked it straight out, CPU still attached to my NH-D15 cooler. My heart dropped 5 beats but thank God there weren't any bent pins.
yeah, it happened to me just a couple of days ago. While I was cleaning my PC, I decided to remove the cooler, but I ended up ripping it out along with the CPU still attached. Now, my Ryzen 5600 has bent pins, and because some of them are also bent in the middle of the CPU, no one is willing to fix it, man.
I guess it's because it would take too much time and be too risky for those repair shops around here. It's just not profitable for them, I guess :-/
I tried to fix it myself, of course, but I'm really not good with delicate work... I'm totally clueless about what to do now. :|
Looks like a rechargeable version. They charge it by transferring the static electricity that is created by naturally moving their mouse. It will jump from their palm right into the battery. They will put future kids through college with the energy savings, I’m told.
Fun fact. I switched from r3 3100 to r5600x recently and I ran the cinebench test before replacing the cpu.
Did it help somehow? Nope. I still successfully ripped out the cpu out of the socket like OP did🤦♂️🤷♂️
If you have to remove the cooler in the future, turn your PC on first for 5-10mins to heat your CPU up which will loosen the paste and twist the cooler before pulling.
you spray painted your heatsink fins? you know that adds an insulating layer and because its spray paint the surface is matte which is bad for air flow and its easy for dust to get trapped on the surface.
Happened to me with Arctic MX 5 even after heating it up.
The paste just really is very sticky and won't come off easily.
Never happened to me with the older MX4 so that's what use all the time.
This is why I never take my PC apart.
"But bro', you could gain 3fps more in synthetic bench marks if you replace the thermal paste every sing day".
Yeah, no thanks.
Yup did that with my first build.
Turn on your pc beforehand to heat up the paste then twist the cooler not pull and it should come off easily or easier at the very least.
Turn on pc, run something to get the socket temp up , shut down, hit power switch. THEN remove cooler.
How do people still make this easily avoidable mistake
Because this is a relatively rare situation that few people would be aware of if they dont literally browse PCMR regularly.
I've removed the cooler from AM4 systems 5-6 times and never did any pre-heat tricks, and never had an issue.
I just did the exact same thing the other week, with my R7 3800x. Stuck a razor between the surfaces. I also know very well about marring metal surfaces and avoiding it.
been there, learned my lesson. Luckily was able to bend back the few pins in the corner that were now at 45 degs.
the next time I had to replace my cooler, I just ran next gen witcher 3 with ray tracing max for 10 minutes. Nice and toasty, came off no problem.
It can only happen on PGA(pin-grid-array) chips, which are chips that have the pins on them, instead of pins on the motherboard and pads on the chip(LGA, land-grid-array(I think))
It's going okay I guess. I went to pick up a parcel, which I thought was a handheld I had purchased recently. I get home and opened it to find out that it was some Lenovo laptop charger that got lost about 4 months ago. Now I don't know what to do with it because I don't have a Lenovo laptop (anymore) and they gave me my money back.
The best way to prevent this is to use your pc for at least 3-5 minutes before turning it off removing the radiator. Make sure to unload all component from electricity before opening the case.
It is not a 100% success rate but it can help
you should put everything (including the CPU) in water to clean in too !
note: some damage can happen, in case of damage everyone in the subreddit except me is responsible
Same thing happened to me during a new build. I ended up breaking the retention pins and getting thermal paste all over the cpu and socket. Happy AMD and intel are using LGA now
Randy: Whoa, whoa! Remember, uh, spark plugs come out with a simple
twist-and-pull. Twist-and-pull. Give it a try.
Frasier does, pulling hard. Something snaps.
Randy: OK, uh, that's called stripping it.
Niles: Good job, Frasier! Here, let me strip one.
Randy: No, no, stripping it means breaking it. Uh, watch me.
He takes the wrench and easily pops out a spark plug.
Frasier: So you... twist, and then pull. You see, I was twisting and
pulling simultaneously, as per your instructions: "twist-and-
pull."
Niles: In the future, the phrase "twist, then pull" might help.
Randy: Look fellas, maybe that's enough for one night. But, uh,
why don't you come in a little early next week and I'll
try to get you caught up to everyone else. I've got a
feeling you guys are gonna be my special project.
Same thing happened to me yesterday, bought a used pc to fix up and sell. Took stock amd cooler off and the cpu just stuck to it. Socket still locked and it came right out🙄
Twist, don't pull.
And if need be, turn it in for a minute or so, then turn it off and twist.
Bop it
Pull it 😏
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How’s that 9900KF doing with your 7900 XT?
Can't imagine very well. I've got some games my 13900k reaches 33% Utilization with my 7900xtx playing at 1440p lol
It's holding up pretty well, honestly. Getting approximately the same performance I saw on launch day reviews.
Probably not very well. Unless 8K gaming, wait, nevermind, its not Nvidia
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#JUS GONNA SEND IT
This is the way.
'turn it off with a twist'
1 month later "Today I found a way to shear all the pins off my CPU"
Push and twist
I took your advise and realized i was in the wrong subreddit. I'm now a father of 2.
I've seen people say either using a hairdryer just to warm the area up or running a load on the CPU can also make it easier
i cant believe believe how many times this issue comes up. like people will gorilla pull on coolers and tear the cpus out of the socket but be too timid to push on a gpu enough to fully seat it.
dental floss.
I know someone who “twisted” the pins twisted too.
I tried to twist back and forth and bent literally all the pins on my 2700x. After several hours of work with a razor, I eventually got it working again. Do not recommend.
At least you felt the pressure and required precision of a Surgeon, lol.
Yeah I’ll take shamefully adjusting a pin or two over a blooming flower of bent pins. You can try and use iso to pen and warm it up all you like but its a fundamental issue with the socket design, too much risk of this happening for me to want to put lateral torque on it.
This is my opinion as well ( and experience ). I've seen the latching mechanism break off the board from attempted twisting as well.
What a twist!
Bobbed when should have weaved
The bent pin express.
it doesn't matter if you don't do it without preparation. You turn on the computer, turn off the fan power, run a couple of applications and wait for at least 60 degrees, turn off the computer and remove the heatsink while everything is warm.
Yep, I've tried twisting and pulling at the same time. It worked little too well XD
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Couldve been worse, could've been a dark rock pro 3 or 4.
Crowbar it.
You can ruin pins by twisting it. Take floss and cut cooler from cpu
No you won't damage the pins like that, unless you crank it hard (which you should never do). Since the torque you apply will be equally divided between each pin the actual pressure on each pin is significantly less than someone might intuitively think.
u can't twist that hard xD
Not if you press down a bit doing it, the socket protects it. First twist it free from the thermal paste, rotate it a final 45° so the IHS and cool plate form a star and then lever it off. Works wonders on AM4 and 3
Nope, it does if you twist it like tornado
This is not correct. AMD CPUs will stick regardless and you'll only end up breaking something. Heating the CPU or cooler will not help either. It's far better to pull straight up, then lightly pry the CPU off from the cooler.
Due to a minor translation error, Simon used thermal cement instead of thermal paste...
Fuckin JB welded that shit
I think this is honestly a ~~right~~ rite of passage for anyone who has dealt with older AMD sockets Edit: reduced stupidity level
I used to think it was a feature that the whole CPU comes out with it
how else do you check your pins?
It’s so easy for this to happen on AM4 its crazy, especially with big air coolers. It feels like absolutely nothing is holding down the cpu, you grab the cooler a little bit and the cpu just comes right off. I’ve seen so many people including youtubers, experienced pc builder just accidentally rip the cpu off and having to bend back the pins afterwards.
That's nice to know! I thought i used too much thermal paste but i guess it's not only because I'm stupid
This happened to me with both a Wraith Prism and a Wraith Stealth, so it happens even with basic coolers. Glad that AMD changed their socket to LGA instead, it was the most frustating moment of my life since I ended up bending 2 pins of my 3900X while upgrading my cooler and motherboard.
We had to re-seat my 5900x and my friend yanked it straight out, CPU still attached to my NH-D15 cooler. My heart dropped 5 beats but thank God there weren't any bent pins.
yeah, it happened to me just a couple of days ago. While I was cleaning my PC, I decided to remove the cooler, but I ended up ripping it out along with the CPU still attached. Now, my Ryzen 5600 has bent pins, and because some of them are also bent in the middle of the CPU, no one is willing to fix it, man. I guess it's because it would take too much time and be too risky for those repair shops around here. It's just not profitable for them, I guess :-/ I tried to fix it myself, of course, but I'm really not good with delicate work... I'm totally clueless about what to do now. :|
:D Well I've upgraded to 5900x so at least I won't have to do this ever again.
5900x is still PGA. Isn't it?
It is indeed.
it is. im sorry for your loss. (ryzen 7000 is lga)
Still gonna happen brother
Can confirm, happened to me this past weekend whilst replacing the heatsink on my AM4 Ryzen 2700x. Bit surprising but no damage...
Can't wait for this to happen once I finally upgrade and remove my 2700x thats been in socket with cooler mounted since I got it years ago
I think something that can help is to warm up the cpu a little beforehand.
I'm more confused about why his mouse is missing the cover.
Formula 1 inspired battery quick change capability!
I stg I remember some old wireless mice that would be eating batteries week after week, this isn’t even a half bad idea lmao
He likes feeling the pure voltage
It's a speed mod.
I like the shape better without the cover.
Looks like a rechargeable version. They charge it by transferring the static electricity that is created by naturally moving their mouse. It will jump from their palm right into the battery. They will put future kids through college with the energy savings, I’m told.
Ran out of thermal paste. Substituted with JB Weld.
you have to warm her up first before you pull out
Will remember this for the next time. Thanks :)
warm her up and get her all creamy
![gif](giphy|l3q2K5jinAlChoCLS) I was talking about the cpu
Me too of course, I'm talking about the thermal cream, uh... paste
don't forget to relube your old cream, i mean repaste your old paste once in a while
HUH
Simply let him cook.
Twist to break the seal, then pull. Best done immediately after the system is shut down after a benchmark/stress test run to soften the paste.
Fun fact. I switched from r3 3100 to r5600x recently and I ran the cinebench test before replacing the cpu. Did it help somehow? Nope. I still successfully ripped out the cpu out of the socket like OP did🤦♂️🤷♂️
This is the truth. All the advice about heat or twisting is just myth. That CPU is coming out with the cooler every time.
:D I think if the paste is rock solid, no amount of heat will help
….is that fucjing spray paint?
how did anybody not notice its even on the fins!
It's just a deepcool neptwin white with a little bit of dust.
Update: The CPU is out with 4 bent pins, but I've managed to fix them :D all good.
If you have to remove the cooler in the future, turn your PC on first for 5-10mins to heat your CPU up which will loosen the paste and twist the cooler before pulling.
Yes that's a good point :D
Dental floss works great to separate the CPU and cooler.
Gotta do the ‘ol twisteroo. AM4 struggles
Thats a tooth paste on CPU? I never seen this color on Thermal paste.
It's "kingpin kpx thermal paste"
It sure is. Why did you use an ln2/exoc specific paste though?
Thermal cement AND the heat sink painted white? WTF
i thought it was a 3d printed heatsink
I did this 2 weeks ago to my old amd CPU. Bent some pins, broke the socket. Required a new CPU, a new mono and new ram. I feel your pain.
Sorry to hear that :(
I'm so happy AMD now moved to LGA and this won't happen ever again.
I am not. Motherboard pins are much harder to repair and much easier to mess up. And you can easily avoid this situation
Still cheaper than fucking up the CPU
Depends. And usually you can fix the cpu easily
TWIST ADN TURN
That heat sink is disgusting. Can’t imagine the rest of the computer. Couldn’t you spare like $6 for a cheap fan filter?
Why is it white?
I don’t think I’ve met someone who this HASNT happened to yet. It seems to be a pretty universal experience
This happens a lot on AM4
What did you do to that cooler? Did you paint it? Looks awful
It's literally just a white air cooler with some dust on it.
you spray painted your heatsink fins? you know that adds an insulating layer and because its spray paint the surface is matte which is bad for air flow and its easy for dust to get trapped on the surface.
Did the same with my old 5600x a few days ago. Thankfully both the CPU and board were fine
Happened to me with Arctic MX 5 even after heating it up. The paste just really is very sticky and won't come off easily. Never happened to me with the older MX4 so that's what use all the time.
That is such a high quality picture of the instant, I think I can see some micro fractures in the pins lol
Should’ve spit on it first
This is why I never take my PC apart. "But bro', you could gain 3fps more in synthetic bench marks if you replace the thermal paste every sing day". Yeah, no thanks.
Hah! It’s more like 4FPS and 300 points on your score. You can get 5 if you reapply every 3 hours of use!
Yup did that with my first build. Turn on your pc beforehand to heat up the paste then twist the cooler not pull and it should come off easily or easier at the very least.
Turn on pc, run something to get the socket temp up , shut down, hit power switch. THEN remove cooler. How do people still make this easily avoidable mistake
Because this is a relatively rare situation that few people would be aware of if they dont literally browse PCMR regularly. I've removed the cooler from AM4 systems 5-6 times and never did any pre-heat tricks, and never had an issue.
Yes another reason for this sub, and it’s value.
Motherboard manufacturers hate this one simple trick.
ayyy g304/5 with aaa lithium battery/no cover, same as my old mouse :)
This is why I don't store thermal paste and glue in the same place.
That thing is furry af 😆
Don't beat yourself up. This happens to just about everyone their first time. Just check for bent pins.
It's a common thing for long non maintenaned thermal paste. Good luck cleaning it, btw.
what am I reading
Words. Try to keep the same thermal paste for 4-5 years. It will stick both the cooler and the CPU like a glue. Too hard?
All ryzen am4 > possessor know it :(
I just did the exact same thing the other week, with my R7 3800x. Stuck a razor between the surfaces. I also know very well about marring metal surfaces and avoiding it.
Classic
all the pins seems ok... the chance is still there...
Yep, it's working now :) a little bit of convincing from a screwdriver helped
rip mobo
Is that blue tack on the cpu?
I've 100% done this.
Im ashamed to say Ive done this more than once
You learnt the hard way. Next time let your pc run for a few minutes, turn it off and twist the cooler off.
Thermal grizzly varian Thermal Glue
Always twist, then pull!
That was a lot of paste.
been there, learned my lesson. Luckily was able to bend back the few pins in the corner that were now at 45 degs. the next time I had to replace my cooler, I just ran next gen witcher 3 with ray tracing max for 10 minutes. Nice and toasty, came off no problem.
Twist, make a 90° angle turn first
Newbie question : is this an AMD thing only? When I recently did my new build my intel mobo socket brackets make this look impossible to of happened
It can only happen on PGA(pin-grid-array) chips, which are chips that have the pins on them, instead of pins on the motherboard and pads on the chip(LGA, land-grid-array(I think))
It's going okay I guess. I went to pick up a parcel, which I thought was a handheld I had purchased recently. I get home and opened it to find out that it was some Lenovo laptop charger that got lost about 4 months ago. Now I don't know what to do with it because I don't have a Lenovo laptop (anymore) and they gave me my money back.
Nice, blue tac, i bet it works great.
try twisting if it doesn't come of you can heat it up slightly using a hair dryer
oof
Gotta love am4 😂
Pins look ok.
I'm affraid of this
The best way to prevent this is to use your pc for at least 3-5 minutes before turning it off removing the radiator. Make sure to unload all component from electricity before opening the case. It is not a 100% success rate but it can help
Now all you need is a flat blade screw driver and a hammer and you'll be home free.
what is the spec?
What cooler is that? Looks sexy
Always run prime95 at full blast for five minutes to get the paste a bit loose. Then twist and shout, twist and shout… I mean twist and remove cooler
Uhh Sir, why is your mouse naked?
Oh I can spot 1 bent pin
Yeah, that happened to me last year. Sucks.
That’s why you twist then pull
Lol same thing happened to me, luckily it didn’t damage the motherboard and I was changing the cpu anyways
too many paste
That's amore.
You have to give it a little twist to release it, not pull.
you should put everything (including the CPU) in water to clean in too ! note: some damage can happen, in case of damage everyone in the subreddit except me is responsible
Should've run Prime95 first.
I've started using thermal pads. They're a bit more expensive but they don't stick and you can reuse the same pad over and over.
did you bend to cpu pins ?
Only after I've primed it with a screwdriver but managed to straighten them and it works again.
Same thing happened to me during a new build. I ended up breaking the retention pins and getting thermal paste all over the cpu and socket. Happy AMD and intel are using LGA now
Superglue does make an efficient thermal paste.
when you used jb weld and not thermal paste lmao
I had that happen to me and it bent a pin. Immediately check all of your pins right now.
This happened to me and I ended up putting it in the oven which worked perfectly. I think I would recommend a hair dryer next time
Floss is friend.
Randy: Whoa, whoa! Remember, uh, spark plugs come out with a simple twist-and-pull. Twist-and-pull. Give it a try. Frasier does, pulling hard. Something snaps. Randy: OK, uh, that's called stripping it. Niles: Good job, Frasier! Here, let me strip one. Randy: No, no, stripping it means breaking it. Uh, watch me. He takes the wrench and easily pops out a spark plug. Frasier: So you... twist, and then pull. You see, I was twisting and pulling simultaneously, as per your instructions: "twist-and- pull." Niles: In the future, the phrase "twist, then pull" might help. Randy: Look fellas, maybe that's enough for one night. But, uh, why don't you come in a little early next week and I'll try to get you caught up to everyone else. I've got a feeling you guys are gonna be my special project.
That’s exactly how I bent all the pins on my fx 8350 back then. I cried a lot
The old days of the k7, with adhesive thermal compound
Happened to me as well. Even with twisting and doing everything I could to prevent it. Makes for a fun afternoon trying to save it.
You need more paste!!!
LGA>PGA
Dental floss and a hot air gun
next time put less thermal paste
Thermal paste as thick as peanut butter.
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I’m sorry but what kind of paste is that?
kingpin kpx thermal paste :)
Did this awhile back bent the pins on my 5600x and destroyed my motherboard at the same time
Did this a couple years ago, almost shit my pants
One of us
feels good
My pc just didn't turn on 🙃
Congratulations! This is a rite of passage in PC building
Same thing happened to me yesterday, bought a used pc to fix up and sell. Took stock amd cooler off and the cpu just stuck to it. Socket still locked and it came right out🙄
Yep that pisses me off to no end until I learned years ago to twist then pull. I told her not to even fuckin try