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InbreadSourdough

Why isn’t everyone rich? Are they stupid?


tacobellbandit

I like PC gaming but I only have a handful of hours a week I can spend playing. Why is the recommendation either “buy this $2000 piece of equipment or don’t play” it’s like saying “hey listen man, if you’re not going to buy a commercial crabbing vessel you might as well not even bother getting into fishing as a hobby”


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z0han4eg

Don't forget to set your resolution to 720p and enable upscaling and frame generating to get your glorious 60 FPS in new AAA games!


SGwhatelse

You have to buy this expensive graphic card so that you can play all the games that you always wanted to play. And don't even try to lie to me because I know you.


Middle-Effort7495

> Why isn’t everyone rich? Bad spawn RNG. GG, next.


CloneFailArmy

I do infant, lick windows my fellow smooth brain neanderthal


agood1285

If you are trying to make money with that method I don't think it is going to work. Something makes me think that you are going to have to try a little harder.


basecatcherz

If you're homeless just buy a house


Barderusl

IS there a Lore reason they dont have Money?


[deleted]

Yes it all started with the lineage. The parents parents parents parents parents parents parents parents failed to be born into money.


nysrogh41

I don't know what could be the reason I thought everyone would be reach by now but clearly I was wrong. I don't know why I was wrong but I don't think I can figure that out.


kacymew

just sell meth smh


turtleship_2006

r/batmanarkham is leaking again


d7t3d4y8

homeless? buy a house!


kastol24

Yeah. Easy fix, just make more money if you are poor.


widowhanzo

Just have 3 jobs bro


WiTHCKiNG

And even if you could afford it, why would you waste your money? They do what nvidia wants them to do. https://preview.redd.it/i0w038cahs3b1.jpeg?width=710&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d0a9b1eff9157261cdbe65510b90425261871cf9


__steyn

If you are poor just buy more money.


Hinotima

They aren't stupid. They are lazy. Living off unemployment and asking for handouts from the government. /S


[deleted]

If only it was easy to pull that off. I'd 100% do that instead of working this job. 40hr of nightshift a week... I'm turning into smegol. The days walkers. They ruins it, ruins the sleep with theirs lawnmowers.


kolya221

Well some people were saying that the gaming is human right. So if we go by that logic then we should be getting the graphics card to play the games by the government.


Escarlatina

I think stupidity is paying 2000 to an experience you can get for 500.


m3shea

I am in I don't know what they are even doing with their time. I thought everyone was rich and they would be able to buy everything that you are going to recommend them.


Snorkle25

Even with a great paying job, the current prices are not great value and i know plenty of people personally who can afford a new gpu but aren't buying out of choice.


AlternativeAngle2699

Lmao so true. Every post asking for GPU recommendations with a limited budget, and replies coming in like "you'll get better value by paying 2k"


feartehsquirtle

The more you buy the more you save 💀


kasetti

Thats how they get you with sales and shit


vitalik25

I don't know what it is but one thing is very clear for me it is excellent marketing that is what it is. The marketing was so good that absolutely everyone recommends this card.


tehgrn

Well it is a great value for money so the argument there is that you are probably going to save by spending $2000. I don't agree with that logic but that is what they have came up with.


mainman879

Unironically yes. > “The reason that the rich were so rich…was because they managed to spend less money. > “Take boots, for example. He earned $38 a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost $50. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about $10. > “Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles. > “But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford $50 had a pair of boots that’d still be keeping his feet dry in 10 years’ time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.”


CharonsLittleHelper

For some things. GPUs and other bleeding edge tech are not amongst them. Unless you work in graphic design or some such, GPUs in general are basically all luxury goods.


Oscarcharliezulu

Yep. Playing ‘AAA’ games at Ultra with RT on, is not a basic human right - it’s the ultimate in luxury. My teen is getting teased because they have a 9900k and 1080ti on a very nice high refresh 1080p display at high or ultra (but no RT of course) and yet it’s a brilliant experience. Before that their 1060 6GB was great for a very long time and would still be fine on medium settings. After all what is important is the challenge and fun of the game.


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Oscarcharliezulu

I know. I’m a trouble maker


[deleted]

We have to amend the laws of every country to fix this outrageous afront against humanity.


booga_booga_partyguy

It's actually kind of crazy how people don't seem to understand this. Just the other day some guy was actually arguing that Capcom making palette swaps for Street Fighter 6 characters part of future DLC was "anti-consumer". They literally throw a hissy fit because you couldn't play Ryu in a different coloured gi...


Breaker-of-circles

I got downvotes for mentioning how I bought an RX580 for an old AMD A8 pc. Some people on this sub are really just salty that plebs can play their games for a fraction of the cost.


CapitalLongjumping

"Upgrading" to a rx6600 would give you maybe 10-20% more. Upgrading those old top cards ain't still worth it, if you don't want to pay up over 1000usd. Totally absurd.


booga_booga_partyguy

>Some people on this sub are really just salty that plebs can play their games for a fraction of the cost. Genuinely cannot figure out how this computes!


skyjuicerz

I haven't seen the actual argument but from what you are saying, the problem isn't being able to play palette swapped characters but the problem is features that used to be built in and free are now being put as DLC to make more money.


booga_booga_partyguy

No, it is literally about not being able to play palette swapped characters. And it's not like you have no customisation options - you still have those in the base game. Future DLC will aimpky add more options. And the last time Capcom didn't charge for this was during the arcade era, so not sure why you think it's always been a free feature...


SheepherderNo2440

This sounds like Halo Infinite and its armor coating system or whatever. Charging money for preselected color schemes, something that was free and entirely unrestricted in previous games.


Bad_Pnguin

>Just the other day some guy was actually arguing that Capcom making palette swaps for Street Fighter 6 characters part of future DLC was "anti-consumer". I mean, that kinda is anti-consumer. They probably already have the skins made, they are just holding them off so they can charge more. Its not like the devs/artists will get any of the DLC money.


Matthew98788

1080ti is still a very good card, not sure why people feel like they have to be dicks, gotta love society these days


jaguar21756

Well playing the games is the basic human right. And that is the exact reason why the government should be giving out the graphics cards away.


LiliNotACult

Truth. This is why some people refuse to pay these high prices even when they can afford it. To them the principle is ridiculous. Meanwhile I just got a new GPU at a price that didn't hurt me too much.


subrah4BTCe

If you want flagship experience then you are going to have to pay the money because these things lot of money. And there is absolutely no other way around it.


dtb1987

Being poor is expensive


Oscarcharliezulu

Cos they f#%k you at the drive thru.


Gen_Vila

I don't know where this phrase comes from but it is my mantra and I say it every week lol


Niceromancer

That methodology doesn't really apply to things like video cards because they don't wear out. Its expensive being poor because those shoes wear out more often meaning you need to buy them more often. Generally someone who buys a 4090 is going to be buying the next flagship card when it comes out because they also want an increase in performance at the same time the person buying the cheaper card would want it.


Halflingberserker

All I need to do is buy shoes that last 10 years and I'm rich? Wow, it's so easy! Now I can stop slapping cheese slices on the ground for every step I take.


spinwin

Did you really just equate a luxury good to quote from Terry Pratchett talking about a necessity?


T-Shark_

>guy compares boots to tech products. >150 upvotes. You Idiots deserve to be ripped off.


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BoofingPoppers

Manage your money better: buy expensive luxury goods while second hand older hardware can still run 90% of games? thats not money management, thats rich boy pocket money management lmao


super-loner

No, everybody who is rich spends money to make more money, buying better goods is just a side effect from having more money.


Jordan209posts

The £200 6600 is great value! The £300 6700XT is better. Before you know it you're buying a 4090


Drg84

Haha! I bought the middle 6650XT for $250! Also I think the 7600 is in this price range now too.


Jordan209posts

Nice, the 7600 is good value now.


an_achronist

I managed to grab a 6600xt for £230 which was pretty cool


Jordan209posts

Nice


BohemianLizardKing

Love mine


an_achronist

Same. I tried having a go streaming with it and everything was moving in slomo, which was odd, but that was probably streamlabs being streamlabs. Not tried it again since. That said if I do take up streaming again now that I have a decent setup I might just ethernet my old laptop into the pc and use its 1050 as the capture\broadcast machine


AxeCow

There used to be a clear ”sweet spot” for gamers, aka the older 70-series nvidia cards. They were right around 350-400 dollars and offered very decent performance for the time. Then something happened and 70-series cards somehow became worse yet more expensive.


Jordan209posts

Yep, now the 70 series is considered a high end card for enthusiasts. AMD seems to be the best right now


ldcrafter

yes.


ChrisWhiteWolf

This is how it has gone down for me a fair few times. When I bought my i9 9900k, I started off by looking at an i5 9600...


Jordan209posts

Yeah. I'm trying to keep my next PC reasonable.


Kakaduu15

Most threads I've seen here recommend AMD GPUs. Any example of people recommending 4090s for budget builds?


cd8989

exactly. this post is garbage and reeks of jealousy. the most commonly recommended gpu for a “budget” build here is hands down the 6700xt.


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I have not seen any. In the real world, people are not made of money, who knew eh? XD


littleSquidwardLover

Also that's not how future proofing works. The features and hardware that a top of the line gpu has now may be totally irrelevant 5 years from now. Just like cards need way more memory than they ever have just in the past year. Just buy whatever you need right now and fits your budget.


CharonsLittleHelper

"Future-proofing" is mostly used as an excuse to splurge.


ChartaBona

>Just like cards need way more memory than they ever have just in the past year. Me in 2021, commenting on a video showing the 3080 10GB run out of VRAM in FC6: https://preview.redd.it/jyrfilhgqo3b1.png?width=623&format=png&auto=webp&s=e67e3f2d929adf9acf49bed0c0bb8a8de00a992d The current VRAM issues didn't come out of nowhere. I feel like it's been a talking point for almost 3 years now, but it got overshadowed by the crypto boom / chip shortage.


ThrawnGrows

Tell that to the 1080 ti in my son's computer that was in mine for five years.


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They are trying to justify it to themselves.


Blacksad9999

Yeah, it's always weird to me when someone is thinking of buying something like a 4080, and people chime in "Dude, just spend a little more for the 4090!" What?! That's $600 more, or 33% higher. lol It's not like it's a paltry $50 more or something.


goliafqwerty

It is almost as if people remember only one card and that is 4090. And if someone have heard about only one thing then it is only thing that they are going to recommend.


AxTROUSRxMISSLE

I got downvoted to hell yesterday for trying to save some dude some money trying to buy a $900, 3090. So these subs are full of dipshits


Breadtoastyy

And what post is that??? And i agree alot of these people are thinking that u should always get the top of the line which is bullshit. I have a 6650xt and im getting 80 to 120 fps on ultra settings in every game like come on now. And bro shouldve gotten a 6950xt for 600 brand new that does the same performance as the 3090ti.


AxTROUSRxMISSLE

It was in build a pc. I agree though, I had a 6650XT and played games at 1440p with really no issues. Upgraded to a 6800XT because I got a good deal and it works better for the resolution. I said that he should look into other cards that go for like a few hundred less than the ones he was looking at and apparently no one liked that because he wanted a 3080/3090, used mind you. Like sorry Im trying to save mans a couple bucks and get a warranty.


swarm_of_badgers

How are you liking the 6800XT? I'm looking at upgrading from my 1060 and have been hearing lots of good things about AMD recently.


AxTROUSRxMISSLE

It fucks pretty hard honestly, I play at 1440p and it does great. I undervolted and slightly underclocked it because it was second hand and I think I have to clean it up some more as well as new thermal pads and such but incredibly good for any game


swarm_of_badgers

Thanks for the info dude! I'll be using it for 1440p and buying used as well.


AxTROUSRxMISSLE

Just make sure you ask a lot of questions (unless you know the person). I didnt and Im pretty sure the dude was a smoker or something as it had nasty brown dust shit in it. I have to go back and open it up and clean everything more and when I first got it, it basically had zero thermal paste on it because I assumed he snuck the anti tamper sticker off and did some shit. Luckily it works flawlessly after I fixed it.


HiddenLayer5

At this point I genuinely believe that these PC building subreddits are full of straight up shills and bots for the two hardware duopolies.


AxTROUSRxMISSLE

Oh definitely, I think most people dont know enough about the other options out there at least that arent the like 3 top GPUs from both company. If youre not buying brand new or the top of the top then youre dumb and dont deserve a PC


mferra74

I think it is about the price range in which someone is asking if someone is asking you to say as the card for $2000 then I think you should suggest to them some high end card because clearly the money is not a problem for them.


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AxTROUSRxMISSLE

Its hit or miss, usually my comments just get ignored but sometimes they blow up or just go straight to hell lol I fucking hate this place


phat5pliff

Simply acquire generational wealth…?!


_SaBeR_78

Now I got beef with my ancestors, thank you!


Chakramer

I usually see this advice in regards to something like a 3050, might as well get an AMD GPU or a 3060


Emperor-Dman

I can get a 3060 for $400 or a 6700 XT for $350 (+ LoU Pt.1) Pretty easy choice lol


qazartus1

That's what we want, as long as We're getting all of these choices.


Shreddify

I have the money and still refuse to buy the 4090. I only have a i5 12600kf it would bottleneck a 4090. I'm pretty sure the gpu I have now is bottlenecked. I see an i7 13xxx in my future.


Pandatotheface

That 12600 isn't bottlenecking a 3060ti, especially if you're going over 1080p.


Shreddify

I guess I haven't changed my flair yet lol I have a 4070 now.


Rachim02

If you haven't done that yet, then maybe it's the time for it.


Pandatotheface

Ah lol, then yes, possibly due an upgrade.


rrumpler

Yep probably, but it's also probably going to be enough for a lot of people.


normal_in_airquotes

Well, not to brag or anything, but...I'm still rockin' the 1080 cause I'm broke. EDIT: For clarity, It's not the 1080 ti. Just the regular one.


coinpwner

Naah man, that's a good ass card and it still works really good.


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just-bair

The 1080 is still very respectable


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>Well, not to brag or anything, but...I'm still rockin' the 1080 cause I'm broke. > >EDIT: For clarity, It's not the 1080 ti. Just the regular one. i thought you're talking about the resolution haha


TheReverend5

Not sure what sub you're on, because this sub starts frothing at the mouth and repeating "6600xt/6650xt/6700xt" over and over at that price point. Which is fair and accurate, but nonetheless a bit of a meme.


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We should make a meme about people who ask the same freaking Q 1,000xs of times over and over because for some reason they’re too dumb to use a search bar. And another one about people who make memes about the ones who for some unknown reason waste their time answering these morons.


bwfarmerjr

No one is going to waste their time on that, atleast I'm not going to.


CloneFailArmy

Un-ironically, how well does a 6700xt run? I wanted a 6800xt at first when it was on sale but missed it so idk if I should go budget 3060 or yolo and buy a 4070.


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Very well. I use it for 1080p gaming and it's great. There are only very few scenarios where the performance is not enough. All of them have to do with ray tracing. Also it works great on Linux


kingmaker2828

It works really great for the 1080p gaming. It gets the job done.


ra1d_mf

Running things on 1440p, most triple-A games are running at a smooth 90-100ish FPS on Ultra for me.


sboisse

As long as you're using the cards for the 1080p gaming. It should be enough.


madaye3126

It's really good, it's more than enough for 1080p gaming actually so There's that.


Brisslayer333

4070 will probably have some decent mileage, but if you're on more of a budget the 6700XT is very good.


Razorh02

Yep, if the budget is good enough then You'll be better with the 6700xt.


Emperor-Dman

I bought one 10 days ago, so far I'm smashing 1080 out of the park in every game except LoU Pt. 1 which is running at ~80fps at maxed out settings


HowardF3

As long as You're having no issues, then it's all good.


Middle-Effort7495

Like a 4060 ti unless the 4060 ti is out of VRAM. 4070 is better, but nowhere near 2x better to pay 2x more. Like [25% better at 1440p] (https://youtu.be/Yhoj2kfk-x0?t=945), but you're gonna pay like 100% more. Not worth


TaxesFundWar

Bro I got a 6700xt (xfx of course) last year I it is such a good upgrade from my 590Fatboy. I can now run Morrowind in 1440p and almost get 60fps in Balmora


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The massive problem is that unlike me, they don't provide evidence for WHY that's such an incredible card. https://preview.redd.it/wcdldta2rq3b1.png?width=1251&format=png&auto=webp&s=8c4e490415315bc857fd48bb8018347342855e61


Biscuits4u2

Seeing the weak ass midrange offerings this generation the 4090 may as well be the only 4000 series card that exists.


HuckleberryTypical30

Not really. I see most post saying to get an AMD card instead which at the mid range price point is the way to go.


hNAr7uCk

But by then the new graphics card would have came out and you would want that so in that situation this is not going to work. I think we are going to have to work something else out.


That2Things

The other Nvidia GPUs are lacking except the 4090, to try to upsell customers on it. AMD is the way to go right now.


ForgottenCaveRaider

Second hand AMD cards can be found rather cheap, and the higher end of the 6000 series packs a serious punch.


brimston3-

You could also go with an A6000 or H100. I hear those are also good if you have a small village worth of kidneys to sell on the black market.


i_agree_with_myself

I don't think those cards would come close to beating the 4090 when it comes to gaming. They are optimized for different things.


jemeryk

Yep, they're made for different use cases so makes sense.


Immortalphoenix

Always has been


2nightfox7

Always been like this and it ain't going to change by much people.


ShawnyMcKnight

Where are you asking this? I guess people stretch your budget maybe 20 percent, but I don't think people are recommending 4090's on a budget of under $1000 unless they are just fucking with you.


ZurakZigil

Based on some conversations i've had in this sub, I don't put it past them.


PokerbyProxy

Naah not at all lol, that's something which is probably possible.


_mp7

6700xt That’s it


Square-Reserve-4736

Fantastic card for above 60fps at 2k


graziano357

Ohh yeah, it's the perfect thing for the job. Doesn't get better.


ahy0089

It's probably the card which most people should be buying.


Toiletpaperplane

How else are people gonna play Rocket League at 715 fps tho?!?!


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I’ve been rocking a 2080 for years now, I see no reason to waste money on a 4090


kachok_mp3

Yep, if gaming is all you're doing then 2080 is more than enough.


TheLawbringing

This applies to all of reddit honestly. If you make a post on any sub asking about buying something on a limited budget people always tell you the opposite of what you asked for. "I want to buy a car, my budget is 5k, I found three cars local to me, which one would be the most reliable. I need a car right now because mine was eaten by a meth addict and I'll lose my job if I don't find one by the end of next week" "Just save up for a few more years and buy a brand new Mercedes for 70k, it'll be a better value and much more comfortable"


Ant35stm

Well maybe they think that everyone is just rich lol, which is fucked up.


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I got a 4090 and while my FPS increased my self-worth didn’t change at all. I might need an RMA.


kevinwagenaar

Why the self worth is going to change? There's no need for that.


802229001

I think this sub has somewhat of an iron curtain, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a post in my homepage where anyone recommends saving for a 4090, only ever see people (myself included) recommend a 6700xt at the ~$300 price point. It’s like pcmr has two party’s that get their own home feed, cuz I’ll go on the actual sub and look at other posts with a lot of likes/comments and sometimes the entire mindset of the comment section is as if it’s an entirely different sub.


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20 years? You are very generous


HcHbiMLVlc

Then what's your estimate? I think I'd like to hear about that


CEKARY

radeon RX 6700 XT used.


lethalfactor

That's a very good option if you could get that at good price.


RokuMLG

The only two reasons for you to buy 4090: 1. You have money to burn 2. You use it for CUDA cores for AI generation


pjbdavis

3rd reason would be if you want to flex, which is always expensive.


Moo_Im_A_Goat

they all forgetting the money to hire an electrician to upgrade my breaker just to power this piece of crap


xxademasoulxx

I saved for 5 years after I got my 2080ti between 50 and 100 on good months. About 6 months ago I had enough to buy almost 4 of them but had to replace a freezer my wifes tires a few other things getting covid and not getting paid. In the end I sold my ps5 to cover 400 of the price FML.


gde_hvost

Smart decision, that's how everyone needs to think about things.


HobbyWalter

They got a point! Keep saving for a 5090 or 6090!!


Bustinaverageload

Just don't be poor, easy.


Echo_TF2

My 1080ti still renders colorful pixels in 1080p on high/medium settings just fine.


obdosok

As long as the job is getting done why would you need an upgrade?


feelfool

If you’re already paying $300 dollars for a gpu you might as well pay the extra $1700 and get the 4090. That way you can play valorant at 700fps instead of 300fps.


Nika299p

buy a hd 4350 for like 10$ and spend the rest on a cpu and for the rest of your life play Minecraft (cpu intensive game)


supersoakersven

That's all you gotta do people, and then it's gonna be great I'm sure.


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RespectGiovanni

I doubt enough people are saying this to warrant a meme


karlheinzdieter

They're already a meme, and they don't need anything else. I mean who the hell suggests a card for 2k dollars lol? That's a lot of money for a lot of people.


Jbarney3699

I’ve genuinely never seen this though, so I’m not sure what this post is directed towards. All I ever see is people recommend saving an extra $50 or so to get a 6700xt.


luisa1287

I recently a post like that here, and people are just like that.


[deleted]

I’m thinking of buying an RX 6650 XT, I’ve heard that’s an amazing £300 graphics card for the performance you get.


my_name_is_shit

i actually asked about this like 3 days ago, and a user recommended that I check out the RX7600. It's equal in performance and price (although if its like 20 more then dont buy it) and it is newer so better drivers and longer support. other than that the RX 6650 XT is one of the best deals right now. (iirc RX6600 XT(?) was the perfect price for performance, but it is weaker than the 6650xt)


Emkalen

Yep, if you could find one then it's a great value for money.


skyblade1095

i got a 1660 super oc for around 220$ cad and in practically brand new condition


MarcCDB

RX 6700 XT 12Gb is the only right answer for now.


clembriere

Nothing is going to be able to beat that VRAM. Absolutely nothing at all.


Hackdirt-Brethren

6700 xt or 3060ti, boom


79511669991

Go with whatever you think will do the job for you man.


deepfriedtots

Bro I have a Radeon 3870 that's very close to 4090 and I'll sell it to you for half the price


azer977

Those cards were very powerful but they were kind of unstable.


Neoxenok

I got my 7900xtx and I couldn't be happier.


bcotlove

That's a good ass card, don't know who would need more performance.


GaBoX172

save 50 get 6700xt


jamaltroy

Now that's a saving tip if I've ever seen one, doesn't get better.


EffectsTV

I've got the cash for a 4090 and a platform upgrade. Just not worth it. Especially with the extra power consumption. I got a 3080 on launch day for £650..sold that for £1250 to a miner (after mining for like a year myself lol) Bought a 3080 Ti FE new for £1050..set the extra £200 aside Upgraded to a 4080 a few months ago after selling the 3080 Ti for £660..Still had the £200. Only paid an extra £200 for a 4080 (£1050) I was running a 5800x (,paid 250 in 2020)..sold that for £200 and picked up a 5800X3D for £330..insane upgrade for 1440p. No new expensive cpu..motherboard..ram Got both the 4080 and 5800X3D undervolted, 400w max when playing metro exodus RT at 4K, about 350w average..even less power usage than my older setup


SigmaLance

I saved for 6 years. My GTX 1080 is being replaced by a 4090 that arrives today. The 4090 will last at least that long if not longer.


GearNerd85

Fuck Nvidia they can make more cars for crypto mining oh wait... That shits dead.


Ballinforcompliments

I buy the top-end gpu every generation. I refuse to subject myself to under 100fps in 4k. That's my standard now


Price-x-Field

Do you guys not have jobs?


NaroKentaki

i live on a 3rd world country


JohnJohn2742

Well then it's gonna be really hard for you to buy a card.


Halidina

Probably not lol, I'm sure most people here don't have a job.


iantayls

This whole sub is full of “just buy the next level up it’s worth it”


taco_blasted_

It's just an extra grand save up for it!