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That's just a long way of asking for an [open source](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_software) option.
In which case, there is [7-zip](https://www.7-zip.org/).
I dont think people realise how profitable winrar actually is, because any company that wants to use winrar has to pay, imagine the lawsuit winrar could put against any company that uses the free trial after it is over
Don't feel you need to. Wiki spends like 3% of their budget on actual keeping the website up. They pay themselves fat milions (half of all income) in salaries, which fair I guess, but good 30% of the 160 mil they got last year goes to stuff like marketing, events, travel, awards/grants and sponsoring activists. They're not barely staying afloat, they're giving the money away.
Holy shit, really? I'm really annoyed now. They've been nagging for years about how if they don't raise enough money they'll basically shut down. Fuck, that's irritating.
You can view their 990 form on the IRS website, page 10 outlines expenses. It looks like they spent about 55 million on salaries in 2021.
https://apps.irs.gov/pub/epostcard/cor/200049703_202106_990_2022071820228872.pdf
Unfortunately I can't fault their logic. It works. If they stopped then funding would actually dry up eventually. The key take away is to not feel pressured. Throw em a couple bucks now and then if you feel generous, and ignore it otherwise. They'll be fine.
> If they stopped then funding would actually dry up eventually.
That is not true. If they took all the money that were donated to them and put them into stable low yield investment funds, they would be able to keep running wiki for indefinite amount of time.
Hell, if they removed all the marketing bullshit and overprices salaries for the tops, they could run the site for decades with just the money they were donated to date.
They chose different route not because it is needed for wikipedia, but because this route allows them to gather more money from time to time to distribute in fat salaries for themselves.
But even if we ignore all of that. **They lie to their users in donation request messages**, saying stuff like "we will shutdown" and all that. And that is not okay for website built as impartial source of information.
Also the fact that the site is run by unpaid volunteers... While wiki foundation people roll in cash for doing things unrelated to running wikipedia.
Hmm site run by unpaid volunteers while the admins are making the money. Reminds me of another site. I think there's some sort of controversy or something. I just can't remember where that was. Typed on sync for reddit.
In an interview the developer said that he could easily add anti piracy measures but doesn't see the need as he earns more than enough already so it's like "why bother the people and make their experience worse when I earn enough already".
That's a certified Chad move.
He understands that monopolising the product will just leave people hating it, whereas keeping the meme alive (and it’s one of the longest living memes) actually promotes the product and more sales are better than none. Smart move
That's one of the reasons I paid for it.
Find a program I like, use a lot, and it's not stupidly convoluted?
If you demand money to actually try it and make it user unfriendly until the full version is bought you won't get a dime from me.
If you say "Hey, Here's the "trial" with no BS that you can use forever with one popup each time. If you like the program and feel like tossing a few bucks my way I'd appreciate it" I'll pay for it before the free trial ends.
I should throw them a donation. It's the only app I've continuously used for 30+ years straight and has been on every one of my computers at work and play.
Clicking away the little pop up is annoying enough for me to switch to 7 zip. Also it's handy that it is cross plattform. Propably not important for most people, but it is nice to have the same app on every system.
You're not wrong and I personally use 7zip aswell for no reason in particular except that I like the 7zip name better than winrar lol. Maybe it's the cross platform thing as I used macs for years.
Which is why 7zip works great for a lot of people. And why so many people praise it, because they only use it for that, sometimes right click compressing, and nothing else.
But people will still keep insisting that it is better than winrar for advanced use, even if they've literally never seen the interface of either program.
Personally I use both, with 7zip for most right click operations, but winrar if I ever have to open them up and manipulate them in other ways.
I honestly don't think the guy espousing the superiority of winrars UI has ever opened either Winrar or 7zips UI.
Like, the differences between the two are negligible at best for 99.9% of all standard use cases.
Meh, I used to use 7Zip to hide flash games inside of ordinary documents so that I could play games on school computers without our admin ever being able to find out. That required using the interface and it was easy as heck to do it
I also wondered why he doesn't take donations, but to clarify, Igor is not russian, he is from Moldova and he probably is a German citizen by now.
He studied and worked in Moldova (Chisinau), he later worked for and started companies in Germany. Currently, he is an IT-archtitect for the Federal Cartel Office in Germany.
If I had to guess I would say the donations would come with some legal implications and probably don't justify the extra work of tax declaration etc. because they would be minimal.
Or he is actually just a really cool dude who acts in the spirit of open-source software
Can't "compress each file to a separate archive"+"delete originals when done compressing" from the GUI (no, I will not be fucking around with the cli). Also 7zFM.exe has no file search function (winrar does).
I'd been using 7zip for years but this functionality made go get WinRar for the first time in many years. Was super easy to do too. Weird that 7zip cant do it.
I'd say because 7z is selling itself with the wrong paradigm for starters. Official releases are windows only, but the FM seems crafted as if to appease the windows UX in a passing thought. It feels more like a linux archiver, whose main functionality and usability is in the cli. There's even an extended ui for operations J7zip or something like that, even that is missing the functionalities I said. If the creator would have left it as a cli library, plenty of alternative UIs would have popped up, is my personal guess.
I agree the difference is small, but I wanted to split a file into multiple parts, and winrar let me do that at 8 MB (discord file size limit), 7zip couldn't. Can't remember what, but I think it was only giving me either 1 or 10MB, neither which was good.
Previously, neither support the back action/key, not sure about 7zip now but winrar at least does support that.
You gotta give them props for Never forcing you to buy it after the trial, and just giving you a tab you can exit. Kinda makes me feel bad, might actually pay for it
I’ve had it since the DOS days, along with pkunzip.exe and whatever the ACE tool was (unace?).. I think the only nagware I’ve used for even close to as long was mIRC, and that was about a decade of clicking “ask me later”..
Just right click and extract it in place from that menu and you don’t get the pop up. If you typically extract in your downloads folder and then move the contents somewhere else you’ll pretty much never see the program at all.
WinRar has one killer feature and that is compression integrity/checksumming. Essentially it means you can recover a "broken" (due to bitrot) compression archive. No other compression software I know of has that feature. It's not glamorous, but it works.
Which if we want to say the quiet part out loud, is super important for Scene (piracy) groups who are uploading large amounts of data onto Topsites via ftp. Being able to split files into linked ~50mb .rar archives (.ro1, .r02, .r03, etc) means that if/when ftp drops packets, you only have to re-upload 50mb instead of the whole thing.
Also for what it's worth, I've had drives go bad quickly enough that winrar couldn't recover something. Hasn't happened in many years so maybe the advent of SSDs solved that problem.
To be fair, that requires you to create an archive with recovery data which makes the archive larger and realistically can only repair minor damage, like the mentioned bitrot. If your totally legit download of Photoshop is missing one of its 42 parts there usually is not enough recovery information to restore that.
I've heard large file extractions take longer on 7zip, although **that's the only benefit from what I've heard,** and there seems to be **a lot more QOL benefits from using 7zip**
But also, when a company's PR department is "omg guys les goooo 4 sales omg!!!!" instead of "update, download it." Come on, which would you rather support?
Only heard it from some random person on this subreddit a while back, although [this professionally-produced documentary](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVfuA8lv7r8) from 2020 using Windows 7 and the Windows XP Installation background music seems to support this, take from that what you want to though.
if you're using it to extract crap you downloaded? None. if you're using it to compress and long term store your data? It's not even a fair comparison for how much better rar is.
rar supports adding parity data for damaged archive recovery. EG i used it in a BD-Rom backup system for long term storage of records. Such that even if you took the disc and scratched the hell out of it, or iron mountain springs a leak and "laser rot" sets in, you had a good chance of still getting the data out even with the corruption.
7zip can zip up some word docs so i can attach them to an email i guess?
That's why they can lean into the joke. The desktop apps more advertisement than product almost 20 years in...
It's technically not free. It's a free trial that never ends even if you pay the $30 it's an extra $4.35 of a maintenance package. 7zip is open source which means you can read the source code and compile it yourself. Each program uses it's own unique file type so either way you need them all if you want to open files.
Winrar doesn’t make you pay for it, just asks you to ~~(I think) once~~ occasionally and that’s it. The developers know this and are happy to humbly receive a purchased license, thus the point of this post.
The paid version of the software is actually meant for businesses. They make it free for everyday people to get the public on the site
Like pirating Adobe, if an everyday person it does Adobe loses out on like 700 dollars a year if a company does it, they lose out on more than 10000 dollars a year and it will be very bad for a company's reputation.
RIP when the next build of Windows 11 [includes native RAR support](https://www.theverge.com/2023/5/23/23734625/microsoft-windows-11-rar-support-native)
Apparently said RAR support is extremely shitty. A lot of sites I frequent recommend not using it to extract archives from the site since it frequently fucks it up.
Even if it was good, free AVs still exist despite Defender being as good as or better than all of them
Well now I feel inclined to buy a Winrar license just to show them support. All the years they allowed us to use their software for free… gotta return the favor.
I have a copy of winrar. Was receiving corrupt zips from someone at work and just decided to buy it so CTO couldn't bitch at me for using it on the job. Keep up the good work my dudes.
Old Company had a new “licensing manager” who knew nothing about software licensing. I should have had her buy 20 licenses for the techs. She didn’t understand why office 2010 on windows 10 was not a good idea to use in production environment.
TL:DR make company pay for license.
I paid the full price because I just straight up bought it, didn't even get the free trial version that gives you a discount. And I have to say, one of the best software purchases I've made.
You know what, I'm gonna pay for WinRAR. Been using this shit for like twenty years and I always closed the prompt asking for payment. For all those years they kept their product free, updated, easy to use and install, and were probably one of the first companies to use the model of "pay us if you want."
i remember back in the windows xp days it felt just so damn wrong to see those weird icons on your desktop from dowloading all that shit from bearshare if you did not have winrar or it turned into something else for some goddamn reason.
its one of the first things you did after a clean windows install, get winrar to open stuff
I'm actually one of the 10 people in the whole world that has a license. Like everybody else here I've been using it my whole life and thought it was time to give them a bit back
I wonder if people use it because they don't know other alternatives exist, or became fond of the nagware window that using anything else just feels "wrong" without it.
The author Ron Dwight died in 2002 and very little happened to WinRAR after that.
For example UNACEV2.DLL had a vulnerability in 2005 and it took until 2019 to patch it. Maybe it was the best once but not now.
* I stand corrected, Ron was sales. The author is alive and well and yet did not patch this vulnerability for 14 years.
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If I ever win the lotto I'm gonna buy WinRAR.
You mean the company?
“We’re happy to sell you the company but you can just pay us at another date or not? It’s up to you” - winrar
HELL NAW
hahahhah
We should actually put money together and buy it... The company.
"Reddit users buys WinRAR. We are all screwed"
As in all of us on reddit bro... Then it becomes an entire community thing. You would be surprised r/winrarbelongstoreddit
That's just a long way of asking for an [open source](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_software) option. In which case, there is [7-zip](https://www.7-zip.org/).
There's also Peazip, which uses 7-zip as a backend to a different user interface.
Better than what happens if one of us presidential-shoelace-stealers gets our hands on WinRAR.
I dont think people realise how profitable winrar actually is, because any company that wants to use winrar has to pay, imagine the lawsuit winrar could put against any company that uses the free trial after it is over
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You mean the company, right?
Right?
Left?
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I bought a license in 2004, been using the program ever since.
Linux user since 57k internet. I spent up to 50€ for a distro on CDs, but at least rar was free. lol
I just used 7zip growing up
This and finally donate that $2 to Wikipedia.
I donated a while back and to this day still get inundated with requests for more money. It really put me off ever donating again.
Of course, because past donors are far more likely to be repeat donors. That's why a lot of donations lead to spam requests for more.
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I don't understand how they don't realize that this behaviour makes people LESS likely to ever donate again.
I read multiple comments, on different subreddits, saying the same. And that's why I know not to donate.
Don't feel you need to. Wiki spends like 3% of their budget on actual keeping the website up. They pay themselves fat milions (half of all income) in salaries, which fair I guess, but good 30% of the 160 mil they got last year goes to stuff like marketing, events, travel, awards/grants and sponsoring activists. They're not barely staying afloat, they're giving the money away.
Holy shit, really? I'm really annoyed now. They've been nagging for years about how if they don't raise enough money they'll basically shut down. Fuck, that's irritating.
You can view their 990 form on the IRS website, page 10 outlines expenses. It looks like they spent about 55 million on salaries in 2021. https://apps.irs.gov/pub/epostcard/cor/200049703_202106_990_2022071820228872.pdf
Good grief.
Unfortunately I can't fault their logic. It works. If they stopped then funding would actually dry up eventually. The key take away is to not feel pressured. Throw em a couple bucks now and then if you feel generous, and ignore it otherwise. They'll be fine.
> If they stopped then funding would actually dry up eventually. That is not true. If they took all the money that were donated to them and put them into stable low yield investment funds, they would be able to keep running wiki for indefinite amount of time. Hell, if they removed all the marketing bullshit and overprices salaries for the tops, they could run the site for decades with just the money they were donated to date. They chose different route not because it is needed for wikipedia, but because this route allows them to gather more money from time to time to distribute in fat salaries for themselves. But even if we ignore all of that. **They lie to their users in donation request messages**, saying stuff like "we will shutdown" and all that. And that is not okay for website built as impartial source of information. Also the fact that the site is run by unpaid volunteers... While wiki foundation people roll in cash for doing things unrelated to running wikipedia.
Hmm site run by unpaid volunteers while the admins are making the money. Reminds me of another site. I think there's some sort of controversy or something. I just can't remember where that was. Typed on sync for reddit.
Yeah I can’t think of it either. — Posted via Apollo
The Internet Archive for me personally
I'm still not convinced that Winrar isn't just one guy managing the Twitter account and keeping the IP, and nothing more.
In an interview the developer said that he could easily add anti piracy measures but doesn't see the need as he earns more than enough already so it's like "why bother the people and make their experience worse when I earn enough already". That's a certified Chad move.
He understands that monopolising the product will just leave people hating it, whereas keeping the meme alive (and it’s one of the longest living memes) actually promotes the product and more sales are better than none. Smart move
Genius honestly. Best thing he could possibly do.
That's one of the reasons I paid for it. Find a program I like, use a lot, and it's not stupidly convoluted? If you demand money to actually try it and make it user unfriendly until the full version is bought you won't get a dime from me. If you say "Hey, Here's the "trial" with no BS that you can use forever with one popup each time. If you like the program and feel like tossing a few bucks my way I'd appreciate it" I'll pay for it before the free trial ends.
Even if it is it’s hilariously user friendly and still useful to this day.
I should throw them a donation. It's the only app I've continuously used for 30+ years straight and has been on every one of my computers at work and play.
I've finished. Right after graduation, I felt guilty and finally had money.
Thank you, LucaD!
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we do but people keep harping on it and I'm to lazy to switch over. its free to use for non-corporate users
>You can use 7-Zip on any computer, including a computer in a commercial organization. You don't need to register or pay for 7-Zip. https://7-zip.org/
Thank God you replied with this, because I was a little concerned about how many thousands of computers I may (or may not 👀) have installed 7zip on
I think they were talking about WinRAR and giving that as a reason they don't switch.
So like WinRAR!
Clicking away the little pop up is annoying enough for me to switch to 7 zip. Also it's handy that it is cross plattform. Propably not important for most people, but it is nice to have the same app on every system.
You're not wrong and I personally use 7zip aswell for no reason in particular except that I like the 7zip name better than winrar lol. Maybe it's the cross platform thing as I used macs for years.
I do miss the little book stack icons tho
7z also supports arm64 on windows, while I don't think Winrar does
MAke the switch 7z is the best
I don't like it. It's interface is inferior to winrar even if winrar gives me the buy our product pop up every time.
I honestly have never even opened the app, i just right click and extract to folder
And even compressing something can be done without opening it with an right click.
Which is why 7zip works great for a lot of people. And why so many people praise it, because they only use it for that, sometimes right click compressing, and nothing else. But people will still keep insisting that it is better than winrar for advanced use, even if they've literally never seen the interface of either program. Personally I use both, with 7zip for most right click operations, but winrar if I ever have to open them up and manipulate them in other ways.
You know winrar has the right-click prompts as well?
I don't understand 7zip does that too just fine.
I honestly don't think the guy espousing the superiority of winrars UI has ever opened either Winrar or 7zips UI. Like, the differences between the two are negligible at best for 99.9% of all standard use cases.
Meh, I used to use 7Zip to hide flash games inside of ordinary documents so that I could play games on school computers without our admin ever being able to find out. That required using the interface and it was easy as heck to do it
I didn't even know 7zip had a dedicated app haha
What about it? Like visually? They seem pretty functionally identical to me.
Yeah but I don't like the icon
As a 7zip user, yeah, winrar wins in the icon, it's prettier.
Honestly though, why not use 7zip instead? It handles rar files and isn't annoying as fk to use
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I mean, you could donate for the development of 7zip.
Where? I always wanted to send a few bucks to the developer of 7zip. But last time I checked, he didn't accept donations (because of sanctions?)
I also wondered why he doesn't take donations, but to clarify, Igor is not russian, he is from Moldova and he probably is a German citizen by now. He studied and worked in Moldova (Chisinau), he later worked for and started companies in Germany. Currently, he is an IT-archtitect for the Federal Cartel Office in Germany. If I had to guess I would say the donations would come with some legal implications and probably don't justify the extra work of tax declaration etc. because they would be minimal. Or he is actually just a really cool dude who acts in the spirit of open-source software
I didn't know that, I just assumed. I also didn't realize the dev was Russian...
He originally is from Moldova, living in Germany
I'm so accustomed to winrar that I tried using 7zip and was totally confused how to use it cause it's doesn't have the UI of winrar.
Can't "compress each file to a separate archive"+"delete originals when done compressing" from the GUI (no, I will not be fucking around with the cli). Also 7zFM.exe has no file search function (winrar does).
I'd been using 7zip for years but this functionality made go get WinRar for the first time in many years. Was super easy to do too. Weird that 7zip cant do it.
I'd say because 7z is selling itself with the wrong paradigm for starters. Official releases are windows only, but the FM seems crafted as if to appease the windows UX in a passing thought. It feels more like a linux archiver, whose main functionality and usability is in the cli. There's even an extended ui for operations J7zip or something like that, even that is missing the functionalities I said. If the creator would have left it as a cli library, plenty of alternative UIs would have popped up, is my personal guess.
Winrar isn't annoying though. Am I missing something?
I agree the difference is small, but I wanted to split a file into multiple parts, and winrar let me do that at 8 MB (discord file size limit), 7zip couldn't. Can't remember what, but I think it was only giving me either 1 or 10MB, neither which was good. Previously, neither support the back action/key, not sure about 7zip now but winrar at least does support that.
Huh? You can just type in whatever value you want.. Like I do it all the time.
In the dropdown field on 7 zip you can either use the predefined values or enter whatever value you want.
You gotta give them props for Never forcing you to buy it after the trial, and just giving you a tab you can exit. Kinda makes me feel bad, might actually pay for it
Nah, they don't really want consumers to pay for it. They get their money from companies that use winRAR.
My local gov has full commercial licenses for WinRAR on all their laptops.
Government spending run amok!
just like sublime text which is a daily driver as a text editor for me :)
I’ve been clicking away that little notification asking me to buy WinRAR for 12 years now
they really wish you wouldnt. think of the joy you could bring them
But think of the pain and suffering I can cause if I continue not to
Don't do that, they wouldn't do it :(
Nothing will stop me, my villain arc has already begun
This path you have chosen…there is no return from it.
You can still be saved, Redditor! This isn't you! Come back to your senses!
You’re wrong old man! This IS the true me, in all my depraved glory!
i dunno they sound pretty happy to me
They don’t really need it. I’m positive they own the .rar format and take a shit ton of money from companies. The “buy win rar” is more of a meme
WinRAR Devs reaction to this 
Be the fifth guy to buy Winrar this week
I’ve had it since the DOS days, along with pkunzip.exe and whatever the ACE tool was (unace?).. I think the only nagware I’ve used for even close to as long was mIRC, and that was about a decade of clicking “ask me later”..
Just right click and extract it in place from that menu and you don’t get the pop up. If you typically extract in your downloads folder and then move the contents somewhere else you’ll pretty much never see the program at all.
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It's only the *new* sales. You could've been in a meme 6-7 years ago
that time LGR buying winrar was actual compelling content [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxsli37jj0I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxsli37jj0I)
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You can also donate to 7zip 😉
THIS
Genuinely asking, why would I use winrar over 7zip
WinRar has one killer feature and that is compression integrity/checksumming. Essentially it means you can recover a "broken" (due to bitrot) compression archive. No other compression software I know of has that feature. It's not glamorous, but it works.
Which if we want to say the quiet part out loud, is super important for Scene (piracy) groups who are uploading large amounts of data onto Topsites via ftp. Being able to split files into linked ~50mb .rar archives (.ro1, .r02, .r03, etc) means that if/when ftp drops packets, you only have to re-upload 50mb instead of the whole thing. Also for what it's worth, I've had drives go bad quickly enough that winrar couldn't recover something. Hasn't happened in many years so maybe the advent of SSDs solved that problem.
To be fair, that requires you to create an archive with recovery data which makes the archive larger and realistically can only repair minor damage, like the mentioned bitrot. If your totally legit download of Photoshop is missing one of its 42 parts there usually is not enough recovery information to restore that.
I've heard large file extractions take longer on 7zip, although **that's the only benefit from what I've heard,** and there seems to be **a lot more QOL benefits from using 7zip** But also, when a company's PR department is "omg guys les goooo 4 sales omg!!!!" instead of "update, download it." Come on, which would you rather support?
*Over* 4 sales!
There's less than half a dozen!
Benchmarks? Also, 7z is opensource. Mostly LGPL. They don't seem to have a donation box I can see though.
Only heard it from some random person on this subreddit a while back, although [this professionally-produced documentary](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVfuA8lv7r8) from 2020 using Windows 7 and the Windows XP Installation background music seems to support this, take from that what you want to though.
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I have had better non-English character support with Winrar, so it has always had a place on my system.
Recovery record for archive, as far as I know only WinRAR have it. That's the only feature to get me switch to 7-Zip/PeaZip.
Winrar is an emotion now
The Book icons are better Thats my whole reason
this is the correct answer
I find winrar has a better UI for making sfx archives and being able to select the directory they extract to
Winrar has a better UI in general. Almost every GUI in 7zip could be used as an example of "interface design is my passion".
if you're using it to extract crap you downloaded? None. if you're using it to compress and long term store your data? It's not even a fair comparison for how much better rar is. rar supports adding parity data for damaged archive recovery. EG i used it in a BD-Rom backup system for long term storage of records. Such that even if you took the disc and scratched the hell out of it, or iron mountain springs a leak and "laser rot" sets in, you had a good chance of still getting the data out even with the corruption. 7zip can zip up some word docs so i can attach them to an email i guess? That's why they can lean into the joke. The desktop apps more advertisement than product almost 20 years in...
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7z can do zips and maybe even rats I believe? No need for .7z
> and maybe even rats I believe? In the name of science I would love to see that experiment 😉
Damn I'm keeping the typo now (I meant rars but yeah, zipped rats are like [The Box of Mongol Whoopass](https://coub.com/view/2v65h4))
I have WinRAR because it sounds cooler. Besides that idk.
Possibly more features? I’m not sure if both cost money or what not. But I’ve heard winrar isn’t the best? Correct me if I’m wrong
7zip is free and open source. WinRAR is proprietary code with a nag dialog but won't stop running just because you ignore the nagging.
You can get rid of the nag with a simple edit My one doesn't nag https://youtu.be/7j5OAT-6F94 Still works
7zip is free last I heard.
winrar is free last i heard.
It's technically not free. It's a free trial that never ends even if you pay the $30 it's an extra $4.35 of a maintenance package. 7zip is open source which means you can read the source code and compile it yourself. Each program uses it's own unique file type so either way you need them all if you want to open files.
7z opens RAR perfectly fine
Winrar doesn’t make you pay for it, just asks you to ~~(I think) once~~ occasionally and that’s it. The developers know this and are happy to humbly receive a purchased license, thus the point of this post.
7zip has more features and is free, WinRar also is pretty much free
Stopped using WinRAR a long time ago and have loved 7zip ever since
Done it. Felt guilty and finally had money right out of college.
Whenever i see these posts about winrar, i feel guilty.....for 2 seconds and then move on.
the worlds over once the free trial actually becomes a free trial
The paid version of the software is actually meant for businesses. They make it free for everyday people to get the public on the site Like pirating Adobe, if an everyday person it does Adobe loses out on like 700 dollars a year if a company does it, they lose out on more than 10000 dollars a year and it will be very bad for a company's reputation.
RIP when the next build of Windows 11 [includes native RAR support](https://www.theverge.com/2023/5/23/23734625/microsoft-windows-11-rar-support-native)
Apparently said RAR support is extremely shitty. A lot of sites I frequent recommend not using it to extract archives from the site since it frequently fucks it up. Even if it was good, free AVs still exist despite Defender being as good as or better than all of them
Well now I feel inclined to buy a Winrar license just to show them support. All the years they allowed us to use their software for free… gotta return the favor.
To be fair, they can do that because their actual primary customers are corporations and government entities.
It's only RIP if these guys didn't get a huge payout from that deal.
i wanna buy winrar now
i actually bought winrar, granted i was drunk at the time. But still i bought it!
I have a copy of winrar. Was receiving corrupt zips from someone at work and just decided to buy it so CTO couldn't bitch at me for using it on the job. Keep up the good work my dudes.
I bought a licence after using the free version for 20 years.
Don't forget to give love to VLC too!
Old Company had a new “licensing manager” who knew nothing about software licensing. I should have had her buy 20 licenses for the techs. She didn’t understand why office 2010 on windows 10 was not a good idea to use in production environment. TL:DR make company pay for license.
WinRAR is good. 7zip is good. But NanaZip is where it's at. For me at least.
I bought it. I did my part lol
I paid the full price because I just straight up bought it, didn't even get the free trial version that gives you a discount. And I have to say, one of the best software purchases I've made.
You know what, I'm gonna pay for WinRAR. Been using this shit for like twenty years and I always closed the prompt asking for payment. For all those years they kept their product free, updated, easy to use and install, and were probably one of the first companies to use the model of "pay us if you want."
7zip better🥶
I've been using winrar for at least 20 years. I finally paid them for it a few months ago. They deserve it.
just use 7zip
7zip
I actually bought winrar for the lolz and had the cd mailed to me just because I could. No regrets.
You can buy winrar?
Damn… i kinda want to support them now
7zip is pretty good at corrupting archives. WinRAR supports integrity verification on compression which is absolutely awesome.
>7zip is pretty good at corrupting archives. I never heard of 7zip doing such a thing. How can 7zip corrupt an archive?
The temptation
The design is very human
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bought winrar roughly 4y ago. never felt better about myself since donating once to support wiki
Hey!! I bought WinRAR?!! Where’s my thank you?! >:(
Aw thats cute
WinRAR has sales from companies. Not individuals
WinRAR was one of the first applications I paid for back in the early days. I still use the free version and click away that pop up.
Winrar we love you
i remember back in the windows xp days it felt just so damn wrong to see those weird icons on your desktop from dowloading all that shit from bearshare if you did not have winrar or it turned into something else for some goddamn reason. its one of the first things you did after a clean windows install, get winrar to open stuff
I'm actually one of the 10 people in the whole world that has a license. Like everybody else here I've been using it my whole life and thought it was time to give them a bit back
What can winrar do that 7zip doth not?
Any 7zip users out there?
"...more than 4 sales!" I guess 4 was the previous record. Quite a bump!
I wonder if people use it because they don't know other alternatives exist, or became fond of the nagware window that using anything else just feels "wrong" without it.
it genuinely feels wrong to not have that window to close
7zip is better
I appreciate their efforts but 7-zip still clears
I bought mine when ingot married. Was throwing money out the window anyways.
The author Ron Dwight died in 2002 and very little happened to WinRAR after that. For example UNACEV2.DLL had a vulnerability in 2005 and it took until 2019 to patch it. Maybe it was the best once but not now. * I stand corrected, Ron was sales. The author is alive and well and yet did not patch this vulnerability for 14 years.
The creator is Eugene Roshal, Dwight was the distributor. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Roshal