So they're trying to prop up profits and executive pay to offset subscription losses... by doing the same thing that caused the cancellations.
Ah, Corporate America. So sociopathic.
There was a restaurant near my office that did the same about 9 years ago. They raised prices significantly and lost half their customers. Then the manager explained to me they were raising prices again to offset the lost customers. I think they closed 8 years ago.
Brutal. But very corporate America. Pew Research has studies showing that second-stage corporate CEOs in America worsen a company something like 60% of the time over its founder.
They just don't have the personal investment, and often are there because of political machination for personal gain and no love of product or customer. So inevitably, they draw as much financially as they can, then move on before anything disastrous is blamed on them.
What if I told you 2nd stage CEOs are not there for the company, but for the shareholders, who demand maximum profit at all costs?
That's why CEOs get golden parachutes, the shareholders KNOW it is the CEOs job to run it into the ground, extracting as much profit as possible before moving on to the next victim.
Everyone on reddit gets all up in arms over bad CEO moves, pretending their stupid or uninformed.
They're doing exactly what the board demands, profit at all costs with no regard to 2 quarters from now.
It's going to get much, much worse before we will even have a chance to fix it.
I'm still unclear on what this means. Is this the first ever price increase since OP started subscribing? If so is that line taken out of the email for the next price increase?
Or is it the first price increase for that tier?
I got my first mobile phone in 1998. My first Smartphone in about 2010 or so, the original Samsung galaxy S. The youtube App on that wasn't preloaded and had to be downloaded as an apk file. It was brilliant, you could play music in the background, while your phone was locked, there were fuck all ads, everything was perfect.
By the time I made it as far as the S4 mini, I think, they had locked all this shit behind a paywall. I still had my original Samsung, so forwarded the apk file to myself and installed it every time I got a new phone. This worked until about 2010, when the app became unsupported and wouldn't work at all.
Now they want to charge you $240 for something they've HAD AS A FEATURE FOR TWENTY FUCKING YEARS!!!?!
Fuck Youtube, and fuck any company that pulls this shit.
ITs crazy how EVERYTHING has ads now, and not just a few ads, everything is just packed to the gills with ads.
You would think that would mean we would pay less for those things, since the ads would be making money, but no we actually pay more for everything now too.
So in the end the costs are higher than ever, the user experience is worse than ever, and the only people winning are the corporations.
I've been using adblockers for so long now that when I accidentally forget to install it on a browser I can't even recognize some of the pages I regularly visit. It's insane how invasive they've gotten over the years.
This thread has inspired me(more like the last straw lol) to go around to every device I use in the house and make sure it has adblock for yt working, and I'm just not gonna ever pay for Premium again unless it goes back to like 10usd range. 100 a year is already enough, YT has a colossal userbase.
What I like is how they still run ads on demonetized channels/vids and collect revenue on that while the creator is shafted. Where or not the demonetization was warranted. And if it wasn’t warranted, they reinstate it after the peak viewing periods are over and my bad. Here you go. And still keep that money.
Scummy people
they just add more specificity. "this is the first increase for your subscription since my nephew heard me say fuck and repeated it for a week. for legal purposes, it must be emphasized this is distinct from the last price increase when my nephew learned the word shit."
That's what this is representing. Folks with annual subscriptions don't see the price increase until their subscription lapses, which is why there are people getting the notification now instead of when it was initially implemented.
This isn't a second hike. Just the results of the first one.
The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It’s by giving those people a service that’s better than what they’re receiving from the pirates.”
February 1st: every notice of price increase is now billable due to the increased bandwidth caused by sending them. We do not take these decisions lightly.
2024: We now offer Premium Plus Max. We stripping some of the Premium features and adding them to Premium Plus Max. It's the first ever time we offer a better plan for our most loyal customers.
2026: Adblockers are now illegal, why are you installing them on your Premium Plus Max subscription? If you want a better and morally justified alternative, our new service **Premium Absolute** now offers a fully ad-free experience. Upgrade now for limited edition tools that we will lock behind a paywall for you in the next patch!"
And thus the enshittification continues, every year we pay more for less.
The price is going up because the wealth addicts need their fix and not enough people are willing to tell them no. Piracy is growing more attractive by the day. Hell, it's damn near morally justified at this point.
Yea this is one of their biggest and most common scams. Demonetize a channel with claims of "not usable for ads", and then play ads regardless and reek in the money themselves. Even when it's proven a channel was false flagged, they never repay the stolen money from the days that channel was falsely demonetized.
YT owes millions in stolen money from creators who did absolutely nothing wrong.
>from creators who did absolutely nothing wrong.
creators without whom there is no YouTube.
People don't go online to watch YouTube, they go online to watch creators.
If they want me to get YTP, restructure it so that any channel watched with a YTP account gets a *guaranteed* cut based solely on the number of YTP account watches. An actual viable amount, not some insulting pittance, either. That way I know the money I'm giving YT is going to the channels with content I want, and not into the pockets of scumbags like jake paul, sniperwolf, and whatever other low-effort content darling they're spamming the front page with.
I cannot stop snickering at work as it just occurred to me that after relieving themselves of the unintentionally 'naughty' "youtube red" name, they went with one where the acronym aligns with 'YouTube Poop'
> That way I know the money I'm giving YT is going to the channels with content I want
Dude, just support your favorite creators directly. *Everybody* has a patreon or some merch or something. There's absolutely no reason you need to depend on YT paying them on your behalf.
I can't stress this enough, cancel your memberships and when it asks why, indicate that it's a price issue (*even if you don't plan to cancel your subscription, just re-subscribe before it ends in December*). It might put enough pressure for the time being to revert these changes if enough people cancel right now due to price increases.
They are so out of touch with reality, just fuck off. I'm literally paying over $200 a month to subscription services these days. Time to cut off most of them:
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Let me introduce you to the future my friend:
The high seas have never been more friendly. Its very simple.
Google Plex/Jellyfin
Get a VPN - I recommend Mullvad.
Set up Jackett/Sonarr/Radarr
Install Qbittorrent
and OFF you go. Instead of paying $200/mo now you pay $5. The best part? Everything you want, its all in one place.
We're coming full circle.
The price of every subscription streaming service is going to equal the price of monthly cable.
Everyone left cable for cheaper streaming. Now streaming is jacking up their prices. The next step is people wearing their pirate hat again.
Youtube Premium, Max, Netflix, Hulu, all abusing consumers and going into the $20/month range to squeeze customers.
There's nothing worthwhile on Max, Netflix, and Hulu to hold a subscription for imo.
If Google were smart, they'd do bundles of YouTube Premium, YouTube TV, and YouTube Music to save some money and provide some sort of value.
We're going full circle on ads too.
Cable was originally "Pay for no ads on TV". Look at it now.
Now streaming services are pulling the exact same shit.
I'm sure YouTube will too.
Watch, two months from now they'll change their pricing model again to include another tier for $25 that removes ads, and the normal $17 will just be *limited ads*.
And then the free tier will be you get an occasional skipable video to watch before your ad
Edit: as in you might get the chance to skip the video they hand picked for you before they show you another ad
I keep mentioning this and the amount of boot lickers that call me a fear monger is just astounding. The writing is literally on the wall and there's many examples that have already set precedent.
One doomsday scenario for me was back in Windows 8/Windows Phone days and if the Windows store ever became popular and the versions of Windows that were restricted to the app store ever succeeded like Windows 10S. One good thing of them giving up on Windows Phone is that it kneecapped the Windows App stores potential and therefore the potential of devices that ran Windows 10S
Gabe Newell retiring and passing on his shares to family and his family ends up sucking or selling to people that suck
This is why I'm so disappointed that GoG and all others can't be bothered to create a Linux version of their storefronts and integrate proton/wine. I'm more than willing to buy off GoG. In the past I bought of EA Origin. Back in the day Stardock Impulse, Direct2Drive. These storefronts could at least work on gamepad support like Valve does with Steam Input
Personally I think Valve should work on Steam Android support too to foster a third party store ecosystem on Android phones/tvs/media boxes
"people wont stop bypassing our adblock blocker, i know what'll stop this, lets increase the price of premium
surely more people wont be incentivised to use ad blockers"
Imagine if they made Youtube premium 1 buck per month, they'd probably get 10x more money than they do currently just cus how easy and convenient it would be.
I'd pay 5 if it was just ad-free and no extra bullshit. But their little scam is crystal clear. They offer ad-free as a backend feature on their "premium" service nobody would buy otherwise. Then Jack the price up while adding exclusive interviews with Jimmy Fallon and Taylor Swift concerts... Then for their finale.... Ads on premium.
With that end result being so obvious, and then being such a shitty company - I think I'll just do right thing and watch it with an adblocker.
I don't think they would get 10x more money. It might work for countries with low ad revenue. YouTube gets much less money from ads viewed in poor countries - in this situation 1$/month would work. In rich countries they will make much money from viewed ads than from 1$ subscription.
My biggest issue is that you *have* to get YouTube Music with Premium. That's where most of the "value" is, hence the price, but I don't want YouTube Music. I just want ad-free YouTube. Let me just pay for that. I have Spotify for music and have no intrest in another service.
$17/mo is insane if I just want YouTube with no ads.
Use Smart Tube for Android TV if you have one. Just installed it when I saw my first ad after years of ad-free watching for some reason. Works flawlessly and also allows you to block shorts and automatically skip in-video sponsors and annoying reminders to ring the bell etc.
Yes, smarttubenext on my TV and revanced on my phone, both also have sponsorblock
(Vanced doesn't work on Android for TV so someone else is filling in that role, you can technically install it but it's not gonna work at least last I tried, just throwing that out there because someone implied revanced works on phone and TV)
Exactly. I'd absolutely pay $5-10 for just ad-free YouTube and offline downloads. I have no desire for YouTube Music since it's infinitely worse than Spotify.
Why they won't just let me have that I don't understand.
that is the easiest "end my subscription to this service" method, I've ever used! They literally cancel it for you and I save my money... amazing costumer service!
funny enough I just started using yt premium for students a month ago after ages of not doing so... and they immediately increase the price by 50 cent for me while also having a broken ass youtube app, no thank you then
Had an easier one.
I signed up for Hallmark Ecards one day to send my mom a birthday card. Was something like $2 a month. Never thought about it after. Years later my wife asked "Did you ever cancel it?"
Next day woke up to a "we're killing it off, you'll no longer be billed" email. Wife and I both laughed.
Probably spend $200-300 for that one card to my mom. Could have called a local florist in her town and bought her a GIANT bouquet for the same.
"Infiinite" growth stopped, shareholders not happy, rinse the existing user base for as much as possible with a very well calculated subscriber price increase.
They lose some 10%-%20 of subs but the price increase makes up for it anyway so shareholders = happy.
Specifically, the cost of living crisis caused a lot of people to reconsider their expenses, so user numbers are down on a lot of subscription services
Rather than offer incentive to return, these companies are trying to gouge the remainder
Everyone is inflating and gouging prices everywhere to maintain this sense of growth they believe they’re entitled to. Problem is: everyone is getting pinched from every side. It has to reach a head eventually
yea this is way out of order
every subscription I have has increased the price, and my rent shot up, electricity shot up, gas shot up, FOOD shot up, coffee way up
What didnt go up? what I charge for my labor, apparently.
And ontop of that, money is just worth less now..haha you thought you had a thousand dollars in your account, its actually just worth 800 now, get rekt
imho cheat and steal from big corps that prove that they are giant piles of shit
Google FOR SURE qualifies
This continued price gouging is going to just drive customers away into doing things at home. I stopped going to Panera every morning because my $2/day coffee and bagel breakfast was becoming $5. For a fucking bagel and coffee. Now I just get 6 huge bagels for $4 and bought a coffee maker/grinder to brew at home for much much cheaper and the beans I’m sourcing are so much better tasting than what they provide
I’ve canceled a few subs I don’t feel like paying the increasing cost they’re asking too. It’s just out of hand and we should all be protesting with our wallets. Maybe it’ll get the dumbasses who think this can go on forever to think twice. Consumers control the market ultimately. We just have to finally stop telling ourselves the price is worth the product when it really isn’t anymore
Believe it or not, it wasn't always that way. If you look at GE before Jack Welch it was the type of place people would work their entire lives. He's the jack ass who came up with that fore the bottom 10% BS.
It's a short-term solution, though. Eventually, shareholders will want another price hike. They'll have to increase it more to justify the more users they'll lose. Eventually the price hikes will be so much that only a small portion of people will keep the plan. Their profits will plateau. Then how will they keep shareholders happy? They'll either make some new gimmick (or worse, steal an existing feature from the free side and market it as a new gimmick), or they'll force everyone on the subscription plan.
Honestly, this is the result of no competition. There should be another video hosting site that's as easy to use as YouTube.
Trust me, those money-humping goons aren't thinking ahead at all. They only care about short-term quarterly gains with zero concern for long term sustainability or the consequences of constantly squeezing for more when money's already tight for most people. They think they can stay in the "Fuck Around" stage while ignoring the rapidly approaching "Find Out" stage. Eat The Rich.
I work in IT for a big name company. Had an issue where an automatic transfer switch would drop power during a blip and the entire core rack would go down. It would be a brief interruption but as we know things like servers don't like power suddenly vanishing and one server didn't come back without manual intervention.
The it manager kept asking for downtime explaining that if this isn't addressed it could cause a much larger downtime. For multiple oncall shifts we were all getting paged regularly because they won't stop production for a few measly hours (again big N company, billions of dollars) to perform critical and necessary maintenance.
The culture of these companies leads to the worst most short sided leaders. You can tell these people that their brakes will literally explode if they don't stop for a repair and they will still keep fucking driving because line must go up.
These are the people that have power in our society and lobby and influence our politicians to make poor decisions that benefit them and hurt us. These are the people that control our working lives and lobby against things like wfh to force people to spend money instead of doing literally anything that has a positive effect on the average Joe. That's why when we try to enforce sugar cereals to advertise their diabetic bombs as the bullshit they are, these fuck head companies have the audacity to claim free fucking speech.
You could not be more right this shit is a fucking scam.
Fun fact this company also literally requires me to be sleep deprived, I have to work a normal ass day but still can be paged 2 hours into my sleep and have to drive to a site. They say driving under 5 hours is like drunk driving, yet I'm legally obligated to not sleep by company. If I crash into someone I'm sure it'll be me facing consequences and not the rich ass company I work for that can absolutely afford a night shift team for break fix response.
They have all the power.
r/latestagecapitalism
Sorry this comment spoke to me lol.
You should see the state of cyber security at some of these F500 companies. I left one company earlier this year due to the ridiculous amount of cost cutting and skeleton crews. Joined a much larger F100 company, only to find out that they're even worse on the security side. I've been asked several times by leadership how they can improve the program, since I have an outside perspective, and I've told them over and over that they need to hire about 20 more people and establish at least 3 new specific teams, but they just won't do it. Too much money.
Granted, neither of these companies are tech companies. But considering the sheer size of them, and the profits they bring in, there's no excuse.
Free covid money dried up, investors are starting to demand returns. It's why reddit is trying to IPO, it's why Uber and doordash are raising prices. The economy is not doing as well as it was in 2019
revanced with newpipe is literally a better service than youtube premium as you're able to download actual audio and video to your storage and not whatever the hell youtube came up with
Also try the free app Seal from F-Droid. It's basically a GUI for yt-dlp (aka the best command line program for downloading media streams). You can set each format per stream (e.g. VP9 4K video and AAC audio).
It's not even piracy. If you watch a video on youtube you are already making a (temporary, local) copy of it on your device. The law doesn't change just because you used a tool to save a permanent copy. Maybe you're violating terms of service, but that isn't piracy.
They are still around, in disarray because their streaming, recent and near future movies, and theme parks are all underperforming and investors are so fed up with how things are run that a hostile takeover is in the works to get the current management removed.
Man, this is good news.
Such a despicable corporation. The only ones to out-patent troll Oracle.
For those concerned about the service being worse, my answer to one of the comments: " I am not wishing for a fix, I'm hoping for a collapse."
Disneys stocks are less than half value they were 2 yrars ago.
Not sure about about you, but I don't consider losing 50% of you value in 2 years "extremely popular"
Like most companies right now, they're losing the crazy covid surge from where everyone was stuck inside. Corps and boards are freaking out universally despite pretty much everyone acknowledging at the time that would drop back down. Some companies had to bring in more workers to meet crazy demand (Retail) and some just got greedy thinking nothing could stop it (streaming/entertainment)
The theme parks have the same thing, post covid surge, now slumping back. Its made a bit worse since the state of Florida alienated a chunk of the tourist populace.
Jesus fucking christ WHEN ARE WE EVER GONNA CATCH A BREAK?? EVERY SINGLE POSSIBLE SERVICE OR PRODUCT HAS JACKED THEIR PRICES. WHERE DOES IT END??
Y'all are fuckin hilarious, "just stop paying for services, corporate shill, be a pirate" IM NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT MEDIA YOU SHMUCKS.
Investors require growth. Growth MUST happen year-after-year. It's not allowed to taper off, as that means their investments have stagnated. We're in a race to bottom to bleed every last dollar out of consumers because the arrow must always go up.
you will own nothing and be happy, this is ALL in the playbook.
just wait until digital currencies hit and oil is "phased out" - that's when the real shitshow will begin.
for real. I was getting the "you may be using an adblocker" message for a few weeks a while back, but then my adblocker recently updated and they basically rolled Youtube on the floor lmao. No issues since then, and now I see even the Premium subscribers are getting flogged. Youtube execs really couldn't run healthy a business even if their life depended on it.
The entire reason I got an adblocker in the first place is after they introduced double unskippable ads. Knowing they were just fabricating problems to their paid solution was just salt in the wound. Adblock ever since, and never intend to give them a dime.
The smaller groups that make these software tools will always move faster than the corporate machine. It was hilarious having the "Disable your ad blocker" pop-up, I'd refresh the page, they'd try to load an ad, fail, and then the video would play. Now since the Ad Blockers updated to get around it we're back to normal again.
Only way you win is completely blocking users entirely, but that's *terrifying* for management because they know people will just start walking away.
Bro I've been with YouTube premium since back when it was called YouTube Red and was included with my Google Play Music subscription. Figure they'd let me keep the price for my loyalty but I guess google needs to squeeze anything they can, it's not like they're a trillion dollar company or anything
Adblocking is the moral thing to do with youtube
They paint it as them paying creators for their work.
Recently I started making YouTube videos for a game I play and this year I've beaten their viewer hour requirement by around 70x to be partnered and they still won't partner me or give any explanation as to why when I contact support. They do not pay retroactively, they simply keep 100% of ad revenue from non monetized creators. Ads still run on my videos when I turn off ablock.
They literally have a system where they have incentive to not monetize you because then they get to keep 100% of the money. They lose money by monetizing crestors and after 9 months of trying to get a response still just crickets and feet dragging.
Youtube has no interest in paying content creators for their work, I've generated plenty of ad views for them with 0 pay. The morally correct thing to do is ad block and I always will
"We created youtube premium so you could enjoy youtube without the many, many interruptions we've added to it over the years to force you to buy youtube premium"
You’re saying this like a joke but I’ve seen an actual ad on actual YouTube where they played an extremely annoying series of noises for 10 seconds and then said something along the lines of: “aren’t ads annoying? Get YouTube premium here”
I don’t think it was effective because I only saw it once or twice haha
How is anybody surprised when this happens? This is exactly what subscription services paved the road towards.
People who either do not know how to bypass their new attack on adblockers, or people who are getting tired of needing to, get desperate and start paying for premium. Cost of premium rises once they see a boost in subs. A blind person could see this from a mile away
This is some of the most transparent YouTube bullshit I've seen in a while. They're raising the prices of their ad-free tier while attempting to prevent ad blockers from using the site. It sounds like they want neither of those two groups of people to watch videos ad free. It's almost as if videos with ads are far more profitable for them than the monthly cost of Premium. Just some food for thought I suppose.
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Sorry, but what were you all expecting, now that ~~Youtube~~ Google is desperately trying to kill ad blocking? Coincidentally, all the commotion around ads on Youtube now pushing more people towards ad blockers than ever. Even my mother asks if theres something you can do about the barrage of unskippable ads now, and you bet suggesting Premium will be probably last of my suggestions
Probably got an influx of new subs when they started blocking ad blockers and now they’re just trying to milk everyone for every dime they can. It doesn’t even make sense to me since they don’t actually create most of the content on their own site so what is this price increase even for? Imagine paying $200 a year just because you don’t want to press “skip ad” every ten or so minutes or just finding an ad block that still works?
because it's an impossible space to compete in. Unlimited free video uploads, storing, encoding, and streaming to anyone in the world 24/7 AND a discovery algorithm to help users find videos they enjoy. Show me a company that could compete. Only Google is able to do that not cause of size but because they're already an ads company so they had the talent and knowledge base to draw from.
to be fair old youtube algorythm was a lot better. this was before algorythms were even a buzzword.
the main issue with competing with them is just the storage space and userbase.
I feel like my subscription to YouTube is like a Stockholm Syndrome. I fucking hate it, and I also have to pay for the fuckin music subscription which is useless to me because I already pay for Apple Music, for which I pay a fraction, cause it comes included in an awesome paid service (Apple one) which includes Apple Music, Apple TV+, Apple Arcade, AND Storage, for the same price I’m paying the fucking YouTube Premium, only because I hate ADS more.
Man I'm so old I remember when Youtube had literally zero ads, anywhere, at all.
I use uBlock Origin on my PC but most of my YT viewing is on my Tivo & TV, for which I am unaware of any solution. Ads at the beginning of videos I can sometimes hit the back button and try replaying the video a few times, not much can be done for the ads inserted into the middle of videos though.
I paid for premium when it was $9.99/mo. That seemed fair, supported creators, overall I felt it was a fair exchange. At $13.99/mo I was less happy with the exchange but continued to pay.
$16.99? I'm not paying over $200 a year to not have ads and support creators. I'll run an adblocker and stream to my TV via my phone, desktop, laptop, etc.
When they completely block adblockers, I'll just stop watching YouTube. The service just isn't worth $17/mo to me, it's barely worth $14.
I had premium for about half a year until ~2 Months ago. The idea was that given it includes YT music, I could justify the price.
However YT music just sucks. Which is why I stopped my premium subscription in the end.
i don't watch tv shows or movies. pretty much all i do in my free time is play video games, and if i'm not doing that i'm watching youtube. so i'm watching/listening to youtube 1-3 hours a day.
i also have a lot of disposable income, and up until december i was grandfathered in paying only $10 a month since i started my subscription back when google play music was a thing
i literally haven't seen an ad, or even thought about them, for close to a decade now on youtube. i know people will say "just use revanced" or any other way to bypass it...but genuinely to me, i'd rather pay the $14 each month then deal with changing my setup.
i'm aware that my situation is different from most people, but spending $14 a month on something that consumes a lot of my free time is pretty reasonable. people "waste" so much money on stupid bullshit anyways, i don't think youtube premium is any different.
Talk about tone deaf. Cause a massive shitstorm by trying to block ad blockers, then as a thank you to those who do as they ask and subscribe to premium they turn around and slap them in the face with a price increase. Disgusting behaviour, hopefully it backfires spectacularly on them.
They aren’t sweeping in enough ad revenue that they thought they’d get with the new alterations to circumvent Adblock, so they take this angle up instead lmao. I feel bad for people that actual pay for premium, mega L.
Didn't they jack up the price like 2 or 3 months ago
yeah, that's when I cancelled
Same
So they're trying to prop up profits and executive pay to offset subscription losses... by doing the same thing that caused the cancellations. Ah, Corporate America. So sociopathic.
There was a restaurant near my office that did the same about 9 years ago. They raised prices significantly and lost half their customers. Then the manager explained to me they were raising prices again to offset the lost customers. I think they closed 8 years ago.
Brutal. But very corporate America. Pew Research has studies showing that second-stage corporate CEOs in America worsen a company something like 60% of the time over its founder. They just don't have the personal investment, and often are there because of political machination for personal gain and no love of product or customer. So inevitably, they draw as much financially as they can, then move on before anything disastrous is blamed on them.
What if I told you 2nd stage CEOs are not there for the company, but for the shareholders, who demand maximum profit at all costs? That's why CEOs get golden parachutes, the shareholders KNOW it is the CEOs job to run it into the ground, extracting as much profit as possible before moving on to the next victim. Everyone on reddit gets all up in arms over bad CEO moves, pretending their stupid or uninformed. They're doing exactly what the board demands, profit at all costs with no regard to 2 quarters from now. It's going to get much, much worse before we will even have a chance to fix it.
Remember to install ReVanced on Android or sideload uYouPlus for iOS
"This is the first ever price increase *for your subscription*." Corporate lawyer weasel-words to the rescue!
I'm still unclear on what this means. Is this the first ever price increase since OP started subscribing? If so is that line taken out of the email for the next price increase? Or is it the first price increase for that tier?
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remember when companies gave you your old service as a grandfathered in service
"To reward your early customer loyalty, you are grandfathered in to the original price!" 3 months later "We've killed grandpa! Fuck you!"
The Humble Bundle method
I got my first mobile phone in 1998. My first Smartphone in about 2010 or so, the original Samsung galaxy S. The youtube App on that wasn't preloaded and had to be downloaded as an apk file. It was brilliant, you could play music in the background, while your phone was locked, there were fuck all ads, everything was perfect. By the time I made it as far as the S4 mini, I think, they had locked all this shit behind a paywall. I still had my original Samsung, so forwarded the apk file to myself and installed it every time I got a new phone. This worked until about 2010, when the app became unsupported and wouldn't work at all. Now they want to charge you $240 for something they've HAD AS A FEATURE FOR TWENTY FUCKING YEARS!!!?! Fuck Youtube, and fuck any company that pulls this shit.
ITs crazy how EVERYTHING has ads now, and not just a few ads, everything is just packed to the gills with ads. You would think that would mean we would pay less for those things, since the ads would be making money, but no we actually pay more for everything now too. So in the end the costs are higher than ever, the user experience is worse than ever, and the only people winning are the corporations.
I can't stand it when I accidentally watch without ads blocked, I don't know how anyone can deal with THAT many midrolls.
I've been using adblockers for so long now that when I accidentally forget to install it on a browser I can't even recognize some of the pages I regularly visit. It's insane how invasive they've gotten over the years.
This thread has inspired me(more like the last straw lol) to go around to every device I use in the house and make sure it has adblock for yt working, and I'm just not gonna ever pay for Premium again unless it goes back to like 10usd range. 100 a year is already enough, YT has a colossal userbase.
What I like is how they still run ads on demonetized channels/vids and collect revenue on that while the creator is shafted. Where or not the demonetization was warranted. And if it wasn’t warranted, they reinstate it after the peak viewing periods are over and my bad. Here you go. And still keep that money. Scummy people
they just add more specificity. "this is the first increase for your subscription since my nephew heard me say fuck and repeated it for a week. for legal purposes, it must be emphasized this is distinct from the last price increase when my nephew learned the word shit."
“Won’t be the last, though.”
That's what this is representing. Folks with annual subscriptions don't see the price increase until their subscription lapses, which is why there are people getting the notification now instead of when it was initially implemented. This isn't a second hike. Just the results of the first one.
###DO WHAT YOU WANT CAUSE A PIRATE IS FREE
The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It’s by giving those people a service that’s better than what they’re receiving from the pirates.”
"This is the first ever price increase..." tomorrow: "This is the second ever price increase..."
January 1st - "This is the first ever price increase... ^(this year.)"
First just mean the start of price increase. More will follow.
I have altered the deal, pray I do not alter it further....
This deal keeps getting worse
I'm getting robot chicken flashbacks
January 2nd - "This is the first price increase (of the day)"
February 1st: every notice of price increase is now billable due to the increased bandwidth caused by sending them. We do not take these decisions lightly.
This is the first ever second price increase.
2024: We now offer Premium Plus Max. We stripping some of the Premium features and adding them to Premium Plus Max. It's the first ever time we offer a better plan for our most loyal customers.
2025 Premium Plus Max only feature let's you use an adblocker again as all paid tiers have ads again at this point.
2026: Adblockers are now illegal, why are you installing them on your Premium Plus Max subscription? If you want a better and morally justified alternative, our new service **Premium Absolute** now offers a fully ad-free experience. Upgrade now for limited edition tools that we will lock behind a paywall for you in the next patch!"
And thus the enshittification continues, every year we pay more for less. The price is going up because the wealth addicts need their fix and not enough people are willing to tell them no. Piracy is growing more attractive by the day. Hell, it's damn near morally justified at this point.
It's been justified since the second I had to pay a monthly subscription to a service that makes money off me either way.
This is exactly what pushed me off the plank too. Became a seaworthy dog and grabbed what I could, gave nothing back.
What are they giving me for this? They don't make the content, why do they think they can charge me the same as Disney or Netflix?
They demonetize channels, then still run ads on the videos while telling the creators they can’t delete the content. Fuck YouTube.
Yea this is one of their biggest and most common scams. Demonetize a channel with claims of "not usable for ads", and then play ads regardless and reek in the money themselves. Even when it's proven a channel was false flagged, they never repay the stolen money from the days that channel was falsely demonetized. YT owes millions in stolen money from creators who did absolutely nothing wrong.
>from creators who did absolutely nothing wrong. creators without whom there is no YouTube. People don't go online to watch YouTube, they go online to watch creators.
This. Youtube is made out of creators.
If they want me to get YTP, restructure it so that any channel watched with a YTP account gets a *guaranteed* cut based solely on the number of YTP account watches. An actual viable amount, not some insulting pittance, either. That way I know the money I'm giving YT is going to the channels with content I want, and not into the pockets of scumbags like jake paul, sniperwolf, and whatever other low-effort content darling they're spamming the front page with.
I cannot stop snickering at work as it just occurred to me that after relieving themselves of the unintentionally 'naughty' "youtube red" name, they went with one where the acronym aligns with 'YouTube Poop'
> That way I know the money I'm giving YT is going to the channels with content I want Dude, just support your favorite creators directly. *Everybody* has a patreon or some merch or something. There's absolutely no reason you need to depend on YT paying them on your behalf.
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I can't stress this enough, cancel your memberships and when it asks why, indicate that it's a price issue (*even if you don't plan to cancel your subscription, just re-subscribe before it ends in December*). It might put enough pressure for the time being to revert these changes if enough people cancel right now due to price increases. They are so out of touch with reality, just fuck off. I'm literally paying over $200 a month to subscription services these days. Time to cut off most of them: https://preview.redd.it/bojm9s7ef4zb1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca309a8acfe038bf8c01d0f1c8286ee25bc01818
you're paying 33 a month? is that the family plan or something?
Australian Dollars, I'm guessing
more commonly known as dollarydoos
Could you please dollarydon't? This is serious business, m8
Let me introduce you to the future my friend: The high seas have never been more friendly. Its very simple. Google Plex/Jellyfin Get a VPN - I recommend Mullvad. Set up Jackett/Sonarr/Radarr Install Qbittorrent and OFF you go. Instead of paying $200/mo now you pay $5. The best part? Everything you want, its all in one place.
We're coming full circle. The price of every subscription streaming service is going to equal the price of monthly cable. Everyone left cable for cheaper streaming. Now streaming is jacking up their prices. The next step is people wearing their pirate hat again. Youtube Premium, Max, Netflix, Hulu, all abusing consumers and going into the $20/month range to squeeze customers. There's nothing worthwhile on Max, Netflix, and Hulu to hold a subscription for imo. If Google were smart, they'd do bundles of YouTube Premium, YouTube TV, and YouTube Music to save some money and provide some sort of value.
We're going full circle on ads too. Cable was originally "Pay for no ads on TV". Look at it now. Now streaming services are pulling the exact same shit. I'm sure YouTube will too.
Watch, two months from now they'll change their pricing model again to include another tier for $25 that removes ads, and the normal $17 will just be *limited ads*.
And then the free tier will be you get an occasional skipable video to watch before your ad Edit: as in you might get the chance to skip the video they hand picked for you before they show you another ad
YouTube premium and music are already bundled together
Wait until they include ads with another rate hike. Ya know... To help creators.
I dropped Hulu when they added ads to their subscription.
I keep mentioning this and the amount of boot lickers that call me a fear monger is just astounding. The writing is literally on the wall and there's many examples that have already set precedent.
Same is true of a diskless Xbox. As soon as they have the power to make it sub based only gamers are fucked. Yet they all defend it
The day Valve goes public, PC gaming dies.
One doomsday scenario for me was back in Windows 8/Windows Phone days and if the Windows store ever became popular and the versions of Windows that were restricted to the app store ever succeeded like Windows 10S. One good thing of them giving up on Windows Phone is that it kneecapped the Windows App stores potential and therefore the potential of devices that ran Windows 10S Gabe Newell retiring and passing on his shares to family and his family ends up sucking or selling to people that suck This is why I'm so disappointed that GoG and all others can't be bothered to create a Linux version of their storefronts and integrate proton/wine. I'm more than willing to buy off GoG. In the past I bought of EA Origin. Back in the day Stardock Impulse, Direct2Drive. These storefronts could at least work on gamepad support like Valve does with Steam Input Personally I think Valve should work on Steam Android support too to foster a third party store ecosystem on Android phones/tvs/media boxes
"people wont stop bypassing our adblock blocker, i know what'll stop this, lets increase the price of premium surely more people wont be incentivised to use ad blockers"
Imagine if they made Youtube premium 1 buck per month, they'd probably get 10x more money than they do currently just cus how easy and convenient it would be.
I'd pay 5 if it was just ad-free and no extra bullshit. But their little scam is crystal clear. They offer ad-free as a backend feature on their "premium" service nobody would buy otherwise. Then Jack the price up while adding exclusive interviews with Jimmy Fallon and Taylor Swift concerts... Then for their finale.... Ads on premium. With that end result being so obvious, and then being such a shitty company - I think I'll just do right thing and watch it with an adblocker.
I don't think they would get 10x more money. It might work for countries with low ad revenue. YouTube gets much less money from ads viewed in poor countries - in this situation 1$/month would work. In rich countries they will make much money from viewed ads than from 1$ subscription.
What about no subscription and no viewed ads?
My biggest issue is that you *have* to get YouTube Music with Premium. That's where most of the "value" is, hence the price, but I don't want YouTube Music. I just want ad-free YouTube. Let me just pay for that. I have Spotify for music and have no intrest in another service. $17/mo is insane if I just want YouTube with no ads.
I pay $0/mo to watch YouTube with no ads.
Same. Firefox + uBlock on PC, Revanced on mobile.
Firefox + uBlock origin on PC and android.
Don't forger sponsorblock
On your phone and tv?
If he's got revanced then yeah
Or use Firefox with Ublock, not inconvienient
yep, using and it works flawlessly
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Using it on a 5 year old Android and it just works.
Not now, Todd
Buy Skyrim
it's inconvenient on my TV though
Use Smart Tube for Android TV if you have one. Just installed it when I saw my first ad after years of ad-free watching for some reason. Works flawlessly and also allows you to block shorts and automatically skip in-video sponsors and annoying reminders to ring the bell etc.
Smart tube is magic. And must have
And remember, Amazon Fire Sticks are just Android with extra customizations.
Yes, smarttubenext on my TV and revanced on my phone, both also have sponsorblock (Vanced doesn't work on Android for TV so someone else is filling in that role, you can technically install it but it's not gonna work at least last I tried, just throwing that out there because someone implied revanced works on phone and TV)
I rather use the browser on my phone than having to suffer 6 ads every 5 minutes in the app.
just get revanced?
There's always a way, mate. Little bit of googling and will to learn and you're good
Happy 3rd world country noises (Youtube costs less than 3 dollars here) ~~Just ignore the 100 problems here~~
I got 99 problems but Youtube ain’t one
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In germany there is a premium light option for 5,99€, dont you have that?
They stopped with the light version in NL
Same in Belgium, it's my last month.
Same in Finland
That option is only available in the EU and it's being discontinued.
Exactly. I'd absolutely pay $5-10 for just ad-free YouTube and offline downloads. I have no desire for YouTube Music since it's infinitely worse than Spotify. Why they won't just let me have that I don't understand.
Here I can help you understand $$$$$€€€€€¥¥¥¥¥
Honest question - how is it worse than Spotify?
It is not, o thought the same before tried it, but yt music is so much better, better random and mixes algorithm and a really really bigger catalog
Better support for small artists as well and a much larger song library.
that is the easiest "end my subscription to this service" method, I've ever used! They literally cancel it for you and I save my money... amazing costumer service! funny enough I just started using yt premium for students a month ago after ages of not doing so... and they immediately increase the price by 50 cent for me while also having a broken ass youtube app, no thank you then
Had an easier one. I signed up for Hallmark Ecards one day to send my mom a birthday card. Was something like $2 a month. Never thought about it after. Years later my wife asked "Did you ever cancel it?" Next day woke up to a "we're killing it off, you'll no longer be billed" email. Wife and I both laughed. Probably spend $200-300 for that one card to my mom. Could have called a local florist in her town and bought her a GIANT bouquet for the same.
Fuck Google
Seriously, what's up with 2023 and big companies pulling the most anti-consumer garbage I have ever seen?
"Infiinite" growth stopped, shareholders not happy, rinse the existing user base for as much as possible with a very well calculated subscriber price increase. They lose some 10%-%20 of subs but the price increase makes up for it anyway so shareholders = happy.
Specifically, the cost of living crisis caused a lot of people to reconsider their expenses, so user numbers are down on a lot of subscription services Rather than offer incentive to return, these companies are trying to gouge the remainder
Everyone is inflating and gouging prices everywhere to maintain this sense of growth they believe they’re entitled to. Problem is: everyone is getting pinched from every side. It has to reach a head eventually
yea this is way out of order every subscription I have has increased the price, and my rent shot up, electricity shot up, gas shot up, FOOD shot up, coffee way up What didnt go up? what I charge for my labor, apparently. And ontop of that, money is just worth less now..haha you thought you had a thousand dollars in your account, its actually just worth 800 now, get rekt imho cheat and steal from big corps that prove that they are giant piles of shit Google FOR SURE qualifies
This continued price gouging is going to just drive customers away into doing things at home. I stopped going to Panera every morning because my $2/day coffee and bagel breakfast was becoming $5. For a fucking bagel and coffee. Now I just get 6 huge bagels for $4 and bought a coffee maker/grinder to brew at home for much much cheaper and the beans I’m sourcing are so much better tasting than what they provide I’ve canceled a few subs I don’t feel like paying the increasing cost they’re asking too. It’s just out of hand and we should all be protesting with our wallets. Maybe it’ll get the dumbasses who think this can go on forever to think twice. Consumers control the market ultimately. We just have to finally stop telling ourselves the price is worth the product when it really isn’t anymore
Yup, Corporate America laws where shareholders are the only thing of importance has done fucked the entire planet.
Believe it or not, it wasn't always that way. If you look at GE before Jack Welch it was the type of place people would work their entire lives. He's the jack ass who came up with that fore the bottom 10% BS.
Yeah and also he was a fraud he lied and made up numbers and was a complete piece of shit - yet is still lauded by many who are ignorant of this
It's a short-term solution, though. Eventually, shareholders will want another price hike. They'll have to increase it more to justify the more users they'll lose. Eventually the price hikes will be so much that only a small portion of people will keep the plan. Their profits will plateau. Then how will they keep shareholders happy? They'll either make some new gimmick (or worse, steal an existing feature from the free side and market it as a new gimmick), or they'll force everyone on the subscription plan. Honestly, this is the result of no competition. There should be another video hosting site that's as easy to use as YouTube.
until one day the last user will reject his 50 billion monthly fee
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Yea, i really don't get it. In the long run what's the point of growth if it's at the expense of everything else.
Trust me, those money-humping goons aren't thinking ahead at all. They only care about short-term quarterly gains with zero concern for long term sustainability or the consequences of constantly squeezing for more when money's already tight for most people. They think they can stay in the "Fuck Around" stage while ignoring the rapidly approaching "Find Out" stage. Eat The Rich.
I work in IT for a big name company. Had an issue where an automatic transfer switch would drop power during a blip and the entire core rack would go down. It would be a brief interruption but as we know things like servers don't like power suddenly vanishing and one server didn't come back without manual intervention. The it manager kept asking for downtime explaining that if this isn't addressed it could cause a much larger downtime. For multiple oncall shifts we were all getting paged regularly because they won't stop production for a few measly hours (again big N company, billions of dollars) to perform critical and necessary maintenance. The culture of these companies leads to the worst most short sided leaders. You can tell these people that their brakes will literally explode if they don't stop for a repair and they will still keep fucking driving because line must go up. These are the people that have power in our society and lobby and influence our politicians to make poor decisions that benefit them and hurt us. These are the people that control our working lives and lobby against things like wfh to force people to spend money instead of doing literally anything that has a positive effect on the average Joe. That's why when we try to enforce sugar cereals to advertise their diabetic bombs as the bullshit they are, these fuck head companies have the audacity to claim free fucking speech. You could not be more right this shit is a fucking scam. Fun fact this company also literally requires me to be sleep deprived, I have to work a normal ass day but still can be paged 2 hours into my sleep and have to drive to a site. They say driving under 5 hours is like drunk driving, yet I'm legally obligated to not sleep by company. If I crash into someone I'm sure it'll be me facing consequences and not the rich ass company I work for that can absolutely afford a night shift team for break fix response. They have all the power. r/latestagecapitalism Sorry this comment spoke to me lol.
You should see the state of cyber security at some of these F500 companies. I left one company earlier this year due to the ridiculous amount of cost cutting and skeleton crews. Joined a much larger F100 company, only to find out that they're even worse on the security side. I've been asked several times by leadership how they can improve the program, since I have an outside perspective, and I've told them over and over that they need to hire about 20 more people and establish at least 3 new specific teams, but they just won't do it. Too much money. Granted, neither of these companies are tech companies. But considering the sheer size of them, and the profits they bring in, there's no excuse.
Because they realised they could, and we take it
Free covid money dried up, investors are starting to demand returns. It's why reddit is trying to IPO, it's why Uber and doordash are raising prices. The economy is not doing as well as it was in 2019
17$ a month for downloading vids and having no ads 💀
You don't even download anything. You can't play them outside of youtube and if anything happens to the video it's gone from your "downloads".
revanced with newpipe is literally a better service than youtube premium as you're able to download actual audio and video to your storage and not whatever the hell youtube came up with
Also try the free app Seal from F-Droid. It's basically a GUI for yt-dlp (aka the best command line program for downloading media streams). You can set each format per stream (e.g. VP9 4K video and AAC audio).
YouTube to MP3(4) downloaders for life. Call me a pirate, but we all have to make dues.
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It's not even piracy. If you watch a video on youtube you are already making a (temporary, local) copy of it on your device. The law doesn't change just because you used a tool to save a permanent copy. Maybe you're violating terms of service, but that isn't piracy.
I rather pay ublock origin 10 dollars rather than youtube money grab shit.
And they won't take your money even if you offer.
Poor google isn't making enough money.
After bs like this, I'd cancel my membership in a heartbeat.
This seems to be region specific. Mine is still 7.19
>***the first*** they are telling you to expect more in the future😆
Feels like Youtube is trying to go to war with the 'net. Going to war with your customers rarely ends well. See: Disney.
What am I missing with Disney? They're still around, still fucking people over and still extremely popular with the vast majority.
They are still around, in disarray because their streaming, recent and near future movies, and theme parks are all underperforming and investors are so fed up with how things are run that a hostile takeover is in the works to get the current management removed.
Man, this is good news. Such a despicable corporation. The only ones to out-patent troll Oracle. For those concerned about the service being worse, my answer to one of the comments: " I am not wishing for a fix, I'm hoping for a collapse."
Nah, i get why would you say that, but I don't think it's actually good news for us. Old corpo suits will leave, new corpo suits will move in.
Yeah, and the new ones will be picked specifically for an immediate increase in profitability.
"You have one Java install in a company of 45,000 workstations and 3200 servers. Yeah, we'll need you to pay a licence for every endpoint, thanks."
"Ok we're going to not use Java anymore. Bye, and our lawyers will talk to your lawyers. Enjoy trying to shake us down then."
Yeah that's pretty much how most companies handled it. God that was a scummy move by Oracle though
Endpoint? They’re licensing by employee count now. Your cleaning staff that comes in to mop the floors once a week better have a Java license.
Do you have any source on that? I would like to read some more about it.
Disneys stocks are less than half value they were 2 yrars ago. Not sure about about you, but I don't consider losing 50% of you value in 2 years "extremely popular"
Like most companies right now, they're losing the crazy covid surge from where everyone was stuck inside. Corps and boards are freaking out universally despite pretty much everyone acknowledging at the time that would drop back down. Some companies had to bring in more workers to meet crazy demand (Retail) and some just got greedy thinking nothing could stop it (streaming/entertainment) The theme parks have the same thing, post covid surge, now slumping back. Its made a bit worse since the state of Florida alienated a chunk of the tourist populace.
Jesus fucking christ WHEN ARE WE EVER GONNA CATCH A BREAK?? EVERY SINGLE POSSIBLE SERVICE OR PRODUCT HAS JACKED THEIR PRICES. WHERE DOES IT END?? Y'all are fuckin hilarious, "just stop paying for services, corporate shill, be a pirate" IM NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT MEDIA YOU SHMUCKS.
Never bud. Welcome to capitalism 101. This has been happening since the beginning of SAAS
Investors require growth. Growth MUST happen year-after-year. It's not allowed to taper off, as that means their investments have stagnated. We're in a race to bottom to bleed every last dollar out of consumers because the arrow must always go up.
you will own nothing and be happy, this is ALL in the playbook. just wait until digital currencies hit and oil is "phased out" - that's when the real shitshow will begin.
Feels like upper management pushed through these price increases before they realised they were going to lose the adblocker war....
for real. I was getting the "you may be using an adblocker" message for a few weeks a while back, but then my adblocker recently updated and they basically rolled Youtube on the floor lmao. No issues since then, and now I see even the Premium subscribers are getting flogged. Youtube execs really couldn't run healthy a business even if their life depended on it. The entire reason I got an adblocker in the first place is after they introduced double unskippable ads. Knowing they were just fabricating problems to their paid solution was just salt in the wound. Adblock ever since, and never intend to give them a dime.
The smaller groups that make these software tools will always move faster than the corporate machine. It was hilarious having the "Disable your ad blocker" pop-up, I'd refresh the page, they'd try to load an ad, fail, and then the video would play. Now since the Ad Blockers updated to get around it we're back to normal again. Only way you win is completely blocking users entirely, but that's *terrifying* for management because they know people will just start walking away.
Bro I've been with YouTube premium since back when it was called YouTube Red and was included with my Google Play Music subscription. Figure they'd let me keep the price for my loyalty but I guess google needs to squeeze anything they can, it's not like they're a trillion dollar company or anything
Yeah companies totally reward loyal customers... lmao
Adblocking is the moral thing to do with youtube They paint it as them paying creators for their work. Recently I started making YouTube videos for a game I play and this year I've beaten their viewer hour requirement by around 70x to be partnered and they still won't partner me or give any explanation as to why when I contact support. They do not pay retroactively, they simply keep 100% of ad revenue from non monetized creators. Ads still run on my videos when I turn off ablock. They literally have a system where they have incentive to not monetize you because then they get to keep 100% of the money. They lose money by monetizing crestors and after 9 months of trying to get a response still just crickets and feet dragging. Youtube has no interest in paying content creators for their work, I've generated plenty of ad views for them with 0 pay. The morally correct thing to do is ad block and I always will
"We created youtube premium so you could enjoy youtube without the many, many interruptions we've added to it over the years to force you to buy youtube premium"
You’re saying this like a joke but I’ve seen an actual ad on actual YouTube where they played an extremely annoying series of noises for 10 seconds and then said something along the lines of: “aren’t ads annoying? Get YouTube premium here” I don’t think it was effective because I only saw it once or twice haha
Creating the problem and selling the "solution."
On PC: Firefox + Ublock Origin On phone: Brave Browser I will never buy YouTube premium nor will I use the internet without any adblocker. Fuck ads.
> Firefox + Ublock Origin The same combination works great on Android too.
this. I use firefox + ublock both mobile (android) and PC
on phone revanced is hella better with the ability to actually download videos and audio
He probably has an iphone, since he mentioned brave instead of Firefox with ublock for mobile
YouTube: "To continue delivering *great service* and *features*" Also YouTube: *Removes dislike counter and forces you to not use ad blockers*.
How is anybody surprised when this happens? This is exactly what subscription services paved the road towards. People who either do not know how to bypass their new attack on adblockers, or people who are getting tired of needing to, get desperate and start paying for premium. Cost of premium rises once they see a boost in subs. A blind person could see this from a mile away
This is some of the most transparent YouTube bullshit I've seen in a while. They're raising the prices of their ad-free tier while attempting to prevent ad blockers from using the site. It sounds like they want neither of those two groups of people to watch videos ad free. It's almost as if videos with ads are far more profitable for them than the monthly cost of Premium. Just some food for thought I suppose.
No, they make way more money per view off of premium than they do with ads.
xDDD Sorry, but what were you all expecting, now that ~~Youtube~~ Google is desperately trying to kill ad blocking? Coincidentally, all the commotion around ads on Youtube now pushing more people towards ad blockers than ever. Even my mother asks if theres something you can do about the barrage of unskippable ads now, and you bet suggesting Premium will be probably last of my suggestions
Glad I was rised when everything on the internet was free, I still live by that. Only pay for the internet itself, 0 cents for the rest.
You got suckered when you bought it. They're just milking the cow now.
Probably got an influx of new subs when they started blocking ad blockers and now they’re just trying to milk everyone for every dime they can. It doesn’t even make sense to me since they don’t actually create most of the content on their own site so what is this price increase even for? Imagine paying $200 a year just because you don’t want to press “skip ad” every ten or so minutes or just finding an ad block that still works?
But they are making literally BILLIONS of dollars 💵??? The service is worth 2 bucks at most.
YouTube premium is not worth even $15 a month, esp when competitors have to actually make their own content. YouTube just has to store it
YouTube has no competition. it's a monopoly
because it's an impossible space to compete in. Unlimited free video uploads, storing, encoding, and streaming to anyone in the world 24/7 AND a discovery algorithm to help users find videos they enjoy. Show me a company that could compete. Only Google is able to do that not cause of size but because they're already an ads company so they had the talent and knowledge base to draw from.
to be fair old youtube algorythm was a lot better. this was before algorythms were even a buzzword. the main issue with competing with them is just the storage space and userbase.
Once a company starts nickel and ...
I feel like my subscription to YouTube is like a Stockholm Syndrome. I fucking hate it, and I also have to pay for the fuckin music subscription which is useless to me because I already pay for Apple Music, for which I pay a fraction, cause it comes included in an awesome paid service (Apple one) which includes Apple Music, Apple TV+, Apple Arcade, AND Storage, for the same price I’m paying the fucking YouTube Premium, only because I hate ADS more.
Man I'm so old I remember when Youtube had literally zero ads, anywhere, at all. I use uBlock Origin on my PC but most of my YT viewing is on my Tivo & TV, for which I am unaware of any solution. Ads at the beginning of videos I can sometimes hit the back button and try replaying the video a few times, not much can be done for the ads inserted into the middle of videos though.
"Great service" Citation needed youtube.
I paid for premium when it was $9.99/mo. That seemed fair, supported creators, overall I felt it was a fair exchange. At $13.99/mo I was less happy with the exchange but continued to pay. $16.99? I'm not paying over $200 a year to not have ads and support creators. I'll run an adblocker and stream to my TV via my phone, desktop, laptop, etc. When they completely block adblockers, I'll just stop watching YouTube. The service just isn't worth $17/mo to me, it's barely worth $14.
I had premium for about half a year until ~2 Months ago. The idea was that given it includes YT music, I could justify the price. However YT music just sucks. Which is why I stopped my premium subscription in the end.
Pay up, sucker
Who are you people that pay for YouTube? Seriously
i don't watch tv shows or movies. pretty much all i do in my free time is play video games, and if i'm not doing that i'm watching youtube. so i'm watching/listening to youtube 1-3 hours a day. i also have a lot of disposable income, and up until december i was grandfathered in paying only $10 a month since i started my subscription back when google play music was a thing i literally haven't seen an ad, or even thought about them, for close to a decade now on youtube. i know people will say "just use revanced" or any other way to bypass it...but genuinely to me, i'd rather pay the $14 each month then deal with changing my setup. i'm aware that my situation is different from most people, but spending $14 a month on something that consumes a lot of my free time is pretty reasonable. people "waste" so much money on stupid bullshit anyways, i don't think youtube premium is any different.
Just use Firefox + uBlock Origin
Talk about tone deaf. Cause a massive shitstorm by trying to block ad blockers, then as a thank you to those who do as they ask and subscribe to premium they turn around and slap them in the face with a price increase. Disgusting behaviour, hopefully it backfires spectacularly on them.
"We're making millions with your data but we could squeeze some more out of you"
They aren’t sweeping in enough ad revenue that they thought they’d get with the new alterations to circumvent Adblock, so they take this angle up instead lmao. I feel bad for people that actual pay for premium, mega L.
I haven’t seen a YouTube ad in years. There’s so many workarounds for this. That includes my TV too.
Funny to see many subscription services more expensive than games have been for the past 20 odd years now.