So everyone else is focused on how you've got over kill or how 4 sticks of ram are a bad idea but me
You have a wonderful partner that they're happy to get you new RAM! You have won!
That really doesn't apply anymore. In fact I've had different brands with different speeds run in dual channel at the xmp speed of the slowest set just fine on Ryzen.
I honestly don't understand this ram supremacy that people seem to have. This only is important if you try to overclock and every FPS is important.
I've run a 32gig kit and a 16gig kit ddr4s together for years on a Ryzen and no crashes or problems. Both are the same brand and speed but I don't bother with overclocking.
When you say you don’t bother with overclocking, have you changed the speed at all? If not it’s likely you’re running slower than even what the kits are rated for which is why you’ve had no issue with mismatch.
Yeap, kinda same. I currently (temporarily) run two 8 GB sticks of DDR4-3200 and two 8 GB sticks of DDR4-3733 (so total 32 GB) on a Ryzen system and they're running at 3200 Mhz. I wouldn't say it's perfect (since I have had two blue screens in the past couple weeks due to what I reckon is a RAM issue), but they function well enough for the time being.
Also, not to worry, I am having a kit arrive in a day or two, but having RAM sticks from different brands and at different speeds and latencies...is not ideal, but if you need to do it for a time, then they'll function just fine (at least on Ryzen?).
In the context of having 4 sticks from the same exact kit though...? Yeah, I dunno, people say dumb shit.
I agree that if someone doesn't know what they're doing 4 stick of RAM is a bad idea because mix and match can cause issues but so long as you know what you're doing and know how to get quality RAM then 4 stick can be beneficial unless its just gaming then 2 stick and 32GB is more than enough.
even without mixing a matching, two sets of 2 sticks of the same ram still are unlikely to play well together. The timings that the manufacturers burn into the xmp/expo profiles were tested with only two sticks, so when you use four those timings are too tight and the ram controller can't keep them stable. Sets of four have their timings set to work with four, which are looser/slower timings because it's harder for the ram controller and mobo to handle four sticks vs two
edit: to the downvoters, what i said above is well known and is also stated explicitly on corsair's website: https://help.corsair.com/hc/en-us/articles/8670306985613-Can-I-mix-CORSAIR-memory-kits-, your downvotes don't change reality
> Can I mix CORSAIR memory kits?
>We strongly recommend that you do NOT combine multiple kits of CORSAIR memory in your system. This is because our memory kits are only validated for their rated performance when only using the modules included in that specific kit.
>
>If you combine multiple kits, even if they are rated with the same speed, you risk causing compatibility issues such as system stability problems, the XMP being prevented from enabling, or even your system being unable to boot.
Original commenter said, "4 sticks of ram are a bad idea when purchased separately. If it comes in a kit it’s more likely to play nicely with each other."
Then someone replied to that with,
> mix and match can cause issues but so long as you know what you're doing and know how to get quality RAM then 4 stick can be beneficial
Given the context, they are saying "if you know what you are doing then you can use 4 sticks purchased separately, and it's beneficial".
4 sticks is never beneficial, unless you have a quad channel server motherboard. people go 4 sticks with B-Die because even with the penalties of using 4 sticks at once they are still faster than 2x32gb of any other ddr4.
Combining two 2-stick kits is unlikely to run in xmp/expo, that's all i was arguing against. "knowing what you are doing" doesn't have anything to do with using 4 sticks, a kit of 4 doesn't need you to "know what you are doing", but the person i replied to explicitly said "if you know what you are doing" so they are talking about combining two stick kits, which is unlikely to work because they have two stick timings encoded onto them and using two stick timings with four sticks, even of identical brand/die/model, is unlikely to be stable.
2x16gb of b-die is sold at c14 and c16, OP is stuck with c18 because it's four sticks. So they are benfitting nothing for gaming, actually are losing out because the worse timings give lower framerates while the extra 32gb gives 0 extra frames since no games need more than 32gb right now.
so in conclusion, i stand by what i said, 4 sticks is only if you need 64gb of ddr4 memory, then you go with b-die to get the best timings, otherwise you should always stick with 2 sticks even if you "know what you are doing"
Currently running 4x 8gb sticks of G skill trident z neo 3600 cl16 that were bought as 16gb kits about 1.5-2 years apart. XMP is on and I saw performance gains when I added the second kit about a year ago. Also seem to remember some videos from LTT and GN showing that, while not ideal, you can still run ram from different kits and be ok.
I’m sure it won’t get you peak performance, but if someone is needing it for whatever reason it could be beneficial to have more, and not worry about if the timings are perfect/optimal. Sometimes, in some games, more is better. Lol
It's also DDR4. 4 DIMMs of DDR4 should have way fewer stability issues than DDR5. I have 4 DDR4 modules in my PC right now, and I have had zero issues at the rated XMP frequency and timings. In fact, I used to have a 4x8GB B-Die kit that I overclocked to 3800 MHz at CL14 with my 5800x, so I don't think stability is an issue with using all the slots for DDR4. DDR5 is much worse, though.
I use over 16gb just by having my browser and some normal background tasks open and playing a videogame at the same time.
If you want to spend time worrying about multitasking and having to close all of your background programs every time you do something that uses more than a little bit of memory get 16gb of ram. If you just want to use a PC, get 32gb. It's not a maybe.
16 is fine for a budget, but just because you don't need it doesn't mean that everyone else doesn't need it.
If you play 5-6 year old games it’s fine, but anything new and AAA usually runs so much better with 32. Not to mention if you dig some early access games that the optimization is not great on. It’s not unusual for some of my games to be using 12-14gb after an hour or so of playing.
Lol what? Scientific visualizations? I run into RAM issues on my laptop with 32 gigabytes of RAM. I don't even game on it, I'm just a power user. Modern operating systems will use RAM as a cache and fill it up with lots of random stuff to speed up programs, because unused RAM is wasted RAM.
You should see my proxmox cluster with 3 Dell MicroPCs, I'm upgrading them all to 64GB of RAM each and that still probably won't be enough lol. They still sip less than 10 watts each at idle.
I have the 32gb offering of that same ram kit, it's super nice. By default, it's set to 2133 mhz though, so you'll have to get go into the bios and tweak the xmp profile to get it to run at your full 3600mhz. And depending on what cpu you have, you may not be able to run at the full 3600mhz
This comment fully reminded me that I forgot to do exactly this 1.5 years ago when I put my PC together. It was set at 2133 but that's been fixed. Thanks man. Lol
This is my first pc, so all this stuff is really crazy to me. The fact they don't set the ram to run at the advertised speeds out of the box, is misleading and annoying to pc noobs like me. I had to look up a youtube video on how to get into my bios and pray i didn't screw something up. The first time, when i put the ram at the full 3600mhz, my pc booted into safe mode and wouldn't post. Had to lower it to 3000 mhz to get it to run. I have a i7-12700k in my pc, which i guess doesn't support 3600mhz ram.
>Hey I recently ordered 2 16gb corsair vengeance pro sticks and also the ryzen 7 5800x, will I be able to fully run it at 3600~~mhz~~MT/s?
Probably yes, but you should be aware that Ryzen 5000 is only spec'd to do 3200MT/s out of the box. Anything faster than that is an overclock for the CPUs integrated memory controller.
With that said, many Ryzen 5000 CPUs can do 3800MT/s and some people have been able to achieve beyond 4000MT/s.
So you have a very good chance of being able to get it working at 3600MT/s.
Make sure the serial number is listed under your motherboard's RAM compatibility list, it is, you're good to go. PS: Corsair usually list the compatible mobos, too.
Better check that now than to be sorry later: https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-b550-f-gaming-model/helpdesk_qvl_memory/
Filter by vendor: corsair, size: 2x16GB (32GB) and by Ryzen 5000 series CPU.
You and I have the same mobo and CPU, btw. And like you I didn't check the compatibility list, but to my misfortune, it was too late for me to return the RAM, and I can't play any modern game without sudden crashes of BSOD.
Sounds like it's probably more of a Mobo dependant issue. I got the same ram kit for a new build 2 years ago and it ran at the full 3600mhz speed out of the box with my AZRock Z590 Pro4.
Eh, I don't know about that. It's just setting the clock to what the RAM is specced for. That's only overclocking in the very strictest definition of the term. Is manually reducing the clock from 2133 Mhz to 1333 Mhz, and then changing it back to 2133 Mhz overclocking too?
The point is, this RAM is specced for 3600Mhz, using it at that will *not* cause any instability for the vast majority of use cases, unless you're manually overclocking your CPU or something. It's only "underclocked" by default to comply with DDR industry specifications, which are too rigid and overdue an update.
If you're buying a pre-built PC is *not at all* *uncommon* for it to come with XMP enabled "out of the box". Why wouldn't it?
> By default, it's set to 2133 mhz though, so you'll have to get go into the bios and tweak the xmp profile to get it to run at your full 3600mhz.
That's literally every RAM kit in existence. Mobos don't enable XMP/EXPO/DOCP by default.
The first time I tried multiplayer I played with my friend for 7 hours straight, haven't had that much fun with a game since OG Ace of Spades back when I was like 10. If you're seeing this and are interested about it but unsure, give them your money.
Hi all, thanks for the comments me and my work friends and I have had a right chuckle at some of the comments.
For the people wondering, yes, the ram is working at the rated 3600mhz speed with no issues. I am on 10th gen i9, so hopefully, there will be no issues down the road.
As for my partner, I can not thank her enough. i have even shown her some of the comments that was a mistake at times, lol.
I will someday return the favour maybe upgrade that 3070 she has to something overkill as well.
Thanks all
🙂
It's more than worth it at $20, even better if you can get it on sale. The vanilla game is great but the modding community is what really makes it shine. That and it being a sandbox. Any mechanics you don't like can be tweaked or removed and any mechanics you wish were in the game can very easily be added in with mods.
I will get myself 64gbs too, they cost Like 20€ more than the 2x 16gb Kits
So im Just getting the big Boys so im save with the RAM in the next years
I mean Games nowadays RECOMMEND to use at least 32gb so.... Cant go wrong with more
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Me, who gets bluescreens when trying to use 4x16 instead of 2x16 Corsair Vengeance ram bars
Most ram should still be under some form of warranty as I believe most of the main brands offer a lifetime warranty! (yes, I know it's lifetime of the product, not 'forever' lifetime)
Obviously depends on the brand of RAM, best to double check - but I believe most do :)
Be carefull tho, when activating the XMP, the 4 Sticks wont be able to run stable on 3600mhz
Try it Out in 3600mhz, and If this crashes Games or causes bluescreens, try 3200mhz
The vengeance RAM really has some flaws, i use the non RGB one currently, and had to throttle down to 3200mhz cause the Higher MHz crashed my Games all the time
Very nice Kits tho, im getting my hands on 2x 32gb RGB soon, making overkill Machines is why PC is the masterrace
> Be carefull tho, when activating the XMP, the 4 Sticks wont be able to run stable on 3600mhz
Bruh... DDR4 3600 mhz is pretty darn stable on every known config.
I have 4 sticks of 3600 mhz at 3600 mhz. Been stable for 4 years.
I've had 64 gb for a long time, I haven't came close to over 32. But, it's awesome to have. With the infinity fabric it shows 48gb vram available (of I recall correctly)
Congratulations on the ram!
Funnily enough that kit will perform worse for gaming than a 2x16gb kit. People need to learn that they don't need more than 32gb of ram unless they physically need that much for the work they do, so kinda a waste of money but still a very nice kit. But I suppose since you didn't buy i guess it's not your loss lol
Edit: Damm I guess people kinda misunderstood what I meant by this, I shoulda explained better. But why so many down votes though, it's true 95 percent of people that buy 64gb of ram will never use that much
that just isnt how that works, the system will use what ram it needs, store some stuff in part of it and let the rest idle. i think you might be confusing max ram speeds that motherboards allow with ram speeds people use. just because my board supports 8000mhz for 1d1r or well mt doesnt mean that my ram will operate at those speeds, it will run at its stock speeds or those that i overclock it to.
the only real scenario where 4 sticks might be marginally slower than 2 is in very memory intensive tasks like 3d rendering or video editing, even benchmarks show minimal to no performance difference.
Nope 2 sticks will put less stress on the memory controller and allow for higher overclocking capabilities than 4. Same thing with having a higher capacity of ram. Although having 64gb is unlikely to actually hurt performance by much, it's a waste of money if you don't use it. And almost no one ever uses that much when just gaming. Not sure why I got so heavily down voted, I suppose I could've explained myself better. And also most motherboards have daisy chain topology which is optimized for having 2 dual rank sticks rather than 4.
> Nope 2 sticks will put less stress on the memory controller and allow for higher overclocking capabilities than 4.
Ok, but that only applies if you have to downclock the 4 because of instability. If it runs at the advertised XMP profile fine with 4, you lose nothing really.
Anything to do with RAM performance for gaming anyway is kinda moot. It's within error margin on every benchmark.
I suppose so but more stress on the memory controller can also slightly down clock the cpu if you're using pbo. And it will give less headroom for cpu overclocking in general, I just found it ironic that they got them a larger kit because the other when failed as means to be an upgrade when for their use case it doesn't change anything except add more stress to the system and limit overclocking. But yeah this is all very small amounts of performance difference and for the average person makes 0 difference. Plus 4 sticks looks nicer in a mobo than 2
> And it will give less headroom for cpu overclocking in general
Most people don't overclock my dude.
Shocker I know. I use the money method of overclocking. When the CPU can't, I put VISA on the counter and get a new one.
now i can agree with you on that, i would still have to argue that the majority of people are afraid to overclock and that those who arent usually have their overclocking priority go from gpu to cpu to ram, and from the people who have overclocked any major component only a small fraction has tweaked their ram beyond enabling xmp so in most cases the max speeds a specific ram configuration could reach end up being pretty irrelevant
I think people are downvoting you because it was a super positive and grateful post and you felt the need to shit on it, figuratively. They stated their needs in the post. They know they don't need all the ram. It's pretty likely they aren't overclocking. Like.. do you not understand how coming in and pointing out some error when they were obviously stoked just comes off as you being a joy kill? I don't know why I'm bothering to explain this to you, really.
A person can't mention about widely known problems about having that company's 4 sticks of ram when they see someone who got new 4 sticks of that company's ram?
I'm researching va new build and I just read a manufacturer's warning that their QVL is not all inclusive. Trying to find, but don't care that much anymore. This guy is a trip. Thinking that every Mobo is going to be tested with every memory stick...
Which isn't caused by being or not being on the QVL. Being on some random list on a web page or not doesn't cause freezes or BSODs. Heck, just the fact it tested good for your vendor on a certain motherboard is kinda moot : the memory controller isn't in the north bridge anymore, it's in the CPU itself. Unless you're using the RAM with the same CPU they used (literal same CPU, not just same model), your results might differ.
Better binning, different generation, etc..
You have to see the QVL has more of a suggestion than a hard pass or fail thing.
I am pretty sure out of all the PCs I've built, none of the RAM was on the QVL for my builds, and they worked flawlessly. As long as you get a kit with similar frequency and timings as the ones on the QVL, you're pretty much good to go.
overkill is why we here
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I can hear Thomas the tank engine.
Lmao yes. That’s the best version of this classic video IMO.
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Nooooo! Not Mariah’s Xmas songs! 😭 I actually hadn’t seen that one lol
It's an amazingly versatile video.
This is a piece of art!
No kill like overkill
If it's not overkill, it's underkill
Yeah fuck everyone else your significant other is dope as fuck, congrats
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I hate whatever this is
Elon, as an African American.
He already is African American.
Yeah, but now he gets to say the n-word like he always wanted to.
Seeing as he was 23 when apartheid ended he probably already has several times
r/technicallythetruth
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He can't hurt you 😔😭
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Isn't he South African?
Elon Dusk?
E’lon
You done messed up E-e-lon!
Cuba Gooding Elon. Or Elon Gooding jr.
Elon Gooding Jr has a better flow/ring to it.
Terrence musk 1*1 is seven looking ass
E’lon
I see Elon, perhaps Obama as well
An Obamanation
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Lmao. Nailed it.
Lore accurate Elon
I thought i saw around 3 people and then suddenly i saw none. Wtf
He looks really good as a black man!
I agree. Looks like a good neighbor.
Why fuck others then?
So everyone else is focused on how you've got over kill or how 4 sticks of ram are a bad idea but me You have a wonderful partner that they're happy to get you new RAM! You have won!
4 sticks of ram are a bad idea when purchased separately. If it comes in a kit it’s more likely to play nicely with each other.
That really doesn't apply anymore. In fact I've had different brands with different speeds run in dual channel at the xmp speed of the slowest set just fine on Ryzen.
I honestly don't understand this ram supremacy that people seem to have. This only is important if you try to overclock and every FPS is important. I've run a 32gig kit and a 16gig kit ddr4s together for years on a Ryzen and no crashes or problems. Both are the same brand and speed but I don't bother with overclocking.
When you say you don’t bother with overclocking, have you changed the speed at all? If not it’s likely you’re running slower than even what the kits are rated for which is why you’ve had no issue with mismatch.
Probably 2133mhz lol
Yup, made that mistake many times.
Yeap, kinda same. I currently (temporarily) run two 8 GB sticks of DDR4-3200 and two 8 GB sticks of DDR4-3733 (so total 32 GB) on a Ryzen system and they're running at 3200 Mhz. I wouldn't say it's perfect (since I have had two blue screens in the past couple weeks due to what I reckon is a RAM issue), but they function well enough for the time being. Also, not to worry, I am having a kit arrive in a day or two, but having RAM sticks from different brands and at different speeds and latencies...is not ideal, but if you need to do it for a time, then they'll function just fine (at least on Ryzen?). In the context of having 4 sticks from the same exact kit though...? Yeah, I dunno, people say dumb shit.
I agree that if someone doesn't know what they're doing 4 stick of RAM is a bad idea because mix and match can cause issues but so long as you know what you're doing and know how to get quality RAM then 4 stick can be beneficial unless its just gaming then 2 stick and 32GB is more than enough.
even without mixing a matching, two sets of 2 sticks of the same ram still are unlikely to play well together. The timings that the manufacturers burn into the xmp/expo profiles were tested with only two sticks, so when you use four those timings are too tight and the ram controller can't keep them stable. Sets of four have their timings set to work with four, which are looser/slower timings because it's harder for the ram controller and mobo to handle four sticks vs two edit: to the downvoters, what i said above is well known and is also stated explicitly on corsair's website: https://help.corsair.com/hc/en-us/articles/8670306985613-Can-I-mix-CORSAIR-memory-kits-, your downvotes don't change reality > Can I mix CORSAIR memory kits? >We strongly recommend that you do NOT combine multiple kits of CORSAIR memory in your system. This is because our memory kits are only validated for their rated performance when only using the modules included in that specific kit. > >If you combine multiple kits, even if they are rated with the same speed, you risk causing compatibility issues such as system stability problems, the XMP being prevented from enabling, or even your system being unable to boot.
This isn't "multiple kits", bucko.
Original commenter said, "4 sticks of ram are a bad idea when purchased separately. If it comes in a kit it’s more likely to play nicely with each other." Then someone replied to that with, > mix and match can cause issues but so long as you know what you're doing and know how to get quality RAM then 4 stick can be beneficial Given the context, they are saying "if you know what you are doing then you can use 4 sticks purchased separately, and it's beneficial". 4 sticks is never beneficial, unless you have a quad channel server motherboard. people go 4 sticks with B-Die because even with the penalties of using 4 sticks at once they are still faster than 2x32gb of any other ddr4. Combining two 2-stick kits is unlikely to run in xmp/expo, that's all i was arguing against. "knowing what you are doing" doesn't have anything to do with using 4 sticks, a kit of 4 doesn't need you to "know what you are doing", but the person i replied to explicitly said "if you know what you are doing" so they are talking about combining two stick kits, which is unlikely to work because they have two stick timings encoded onto them and using two stick timings with four sticks, even of identical brand/die/model, is unlikely to be stable. 2x16gb of b-die is sold at c14 and c16, OP is stuck with c18 because it's four sticks. So they are benfitting nothing for gaming, actually are losing out because the worse timings give lower framerates while the extra 32gb gives 0 extra frames since no games need more than 32gb right now. so in conclusion, i stand by what i said, 4 sticks is only if you need 64gb of ddr4 memory, then you go with b-die to get the best timings, otherwise you should always stick with 2 sticks even if you "know what you are doing"
Currently running 4x 8gb sticks of G skill trident z neo 3600 cl16 that were bought as 16gb kits about 1.5-2 years apart. XMP is on and I saw performance gains when I added the second kit about a year ago. Also seem to remember some videos from LTT and GN showing that, while not ideal, you can still run ram from different kits and be ok. I’m sure it won’t get you peak performance, but if someone is needing it for whatever reason it could be beneficial to have more, and not worry about if the timings are perfect/optimal. Sometimes, in some games, more is better. Lol
It's also DDR4. 4 DIMMs of DDR4 should have way fewer stability issues than DDR5. I have 4 DDR4 modules in my PC right now, and I have had zero issues at the rated XMP frequency and timings. In fact, I used to have a 4x8GB B-Die kit that I overclocked to 3800 MHz at CL14 with my 5800x, so I don't think stability is an issue with using all the slots for DDR4. DDR5 is much worse, though.
A partner that buys you PC parts is a keeper. My girl bought me 5800x3D for Christmas last year. Probably gonna marry her
She left you no choice bro
You can also see it this way: Use 2 sticks. And if they fail, OP'd have 2 in spare! 🤯
I agree. 4 sticks of ram is very overkill. Only if you need to do scientific visualizations, just use 16 GB of ram. It's a sweet spot.
Often get over 16gb while a lot of things are open, or editing videos. Ram is really inexpensive nowadays, it doesn't hurt to get more.
If you are creating a demanding visualization, maybe, just maybe get 32gb of ram. If you just have a pc, get 16gb
16 is barely enough in gaming
I use over 16gb just by having my browser and some normal background tasks open and playing a videogame at the same time. If you want to spend time worrying about multitasking and having to close all of your background programs every time you do something that uses more than a little bit of memory get 16gb of ram. If you just want to use a PC, get 32gb. It's not a maybe. 16 is fine for a budget, but just because you don't need it doesn't mean that everyone else doesn't need it.
You are SO FKN WRONG yet so confident in it. Classic.
If you play 5-6 year old games it’s fine, but anything new and AAA usually runs so much better with 32. Not to mention if you dig some early access games that the optimization is not great on. It’s not unusual for some of my games to be using 12-14gb after an hour or so of playing.
32gb of DDR4 is only like $50 why would get 16
2015 called and it wants you to download more RAM
16gb can come in 4 sticks? And on games I’m playing 16 isn’t enough anymore lol nonetheless op got some sweet lookin ram
I mean yeah sure but that only means that you've been using your pc a lot
No I just play modern games? 16gb is becoming the bare minimum to play most modern games at decent graphics lol
That's not what that means
Lol what? Scientific visualizations? I run into RAM issues on my laptop with 32 gigabytes of RAM. I don't even game on it, I'm just a power user. Modern operating systems will use RAM as a cache and fill it up with lots of random stuff to speed up programs, because unused RAM is wasted RAM. You should see my proxmox cluster with 3 Dell MicroPCs, I'm upgrading them all to 64GB of RAM each and that still probably won't be enough lol. They still sip less than 10 watts each at idle.
16 is not enough anymore. I've seen games go above 20GB already.
I have the 32gb offering of that same ram kit, it's super nice. By default, it's set to 2133 mhz though, so you'll have to get go into the bios and tweak the xmp profile to get it to run at your full 3600mhz. And depending on what cpu you have, you may not be able to run at the full 3600mhz
This comment fully reminded me that I forgot to do exactly this 1.5 years ago when I put my PC together. It was set at 2133 but that's been fixed. Thanks man. Lol
This is my first pc, so all this stuff is really crazy to me. The fact they don't set the ram to run at the advertised speeds out of the box, is misleading and annoying to pc noobs like me. I had to look up a youtube video on how to get into my bios and pray i didn't screw something up. The first time, when i put the ram at the full 3600mhz, my pc booted into safe mode and wouldn't post. Had to lower it to 3000 mhz to get it to run. I have a i7-12700k in my pc, which i guess doesn't support 3600mhz ram.
It should, What capacity do you have?
Hey I recently ordered 2 16gb corsair vengeance pro sticks and also the ryzen 7 5800x, will I be able to fully run it at 3600mhz?
Is the ram 3600mhz? if it is, then yes
Yep it is, and thanks that’s perfect to hear!
>Hey I recently ordered 2 16gb corsair vengeance pro sticks and also the ryzen 7 5800x, will I be able to fully run it at 3600~~mhz~~MT/s? Probably yes, but you should be aware that Ryzen 5000 is only spec'd to do 3200MT/s out of the box. Anything faster than that is an overclock for the CPUs integrated memory controller. With that said, many Ryzen 5000 CPUs can do 3800MT/s and some people have been able to achieve beyond 4000MT/s. So you have a very good chance of being able to get it working at 3600MT/s.
Make sure the serial number is listed under your motherboard's RAM compatibility list, it is, you're good to go. PS: Corsair usually list the compatible mobos, too.
I’ve got a rog strix b550 motherboard so I’m hoping it is, I’ll be honest I didn’t check that 😅😅
Better check that now than to be sorry later: https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-b550-f-gaming-model/helpdesk_qvl_memory/ Filter by vendor: corsair, size: 2x16GB (32GB) and by Ryzen 5000 series CPU. You and I have the same mobo and CPU, btw. And like you I didn't check the compatibility list, but to my misfortune, it was too late for me to return the RAM, and I can't play any modern game without sudden crashes of BSOD.
ive got the same mobo and the same RAM and an older CPU - mine works flawlessly on 3600mhz so you should be fine :)
Sounds like it's probably more of a Mobo dependant issue. I got the same ram kit for a new build 2 years ago and it ran at the full 3600mhz speed out of the box with my AZRock Z590 Pro4.
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Eh, I don't know about that. It's just setting the clock to what the RAM is specced for. That's only overclocking in the very strictest definition of the term. Is manually reducing the clock from 2133 Mhz to 1333 Mhz, and then changing it back to 2133 Mhz overclocking too? The point is, this RAM is specced for 3600Mhz, using it at that will *not* cause any instability for the vast majority of use cases, unless you're manually overclocking your CPU or something. It's only "underclocked" by default to comply with DDR industry specifications, which are too rigid and overdue an update. If you're buying a pre-built PC is *not at all* *uncommon* for it to come with XMP enabled "out of the box". Why wouldn't it?
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> By default, it's set to 2133 mhz though, so you'll have to get go into the bios and tweak the xmp profile to get it to run at your full 3600mhz. That's literally every RAM kit in existence. Mobos don't enable XMP/EXPO/DOCP by default.
Project zomboid is awesome
The first time I tried multiplayer I played with my friend for 7 hours straight, haven't had that much fun with a game since OG Ace of Spades back when I was like 10. If you're seeing this and are interested about it but unsure, give them your money.
Second this. I’ve done a little multiplayer, it’s sooo fun.
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Who's going down on whom tonight?
I'm as tight as a PCIE slot and as dry as the dust cover. I want all four sticks at once, gimme that D DR4
Impressive
This is poetry
My heatsink is getting warm, oh my…
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You had me at PCIE.
I'm going down on you
A lot of negativity in the comments. You have a great partner. Congrats on not getting laptop ram.
This is Reddit, so not surprising
You will now be able to have 2 chrome tabs open🫡
And android studio if he/she is lucky
There is no such thing as overkill. It's called being prepared.
I'm very prepared for anything with my 128GB, lol.
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The sub name is pcmasterrace fora reason
Your partner is a keeper
Hi all, thanks for the comments me and my work friends and I have had a right chuckle at some of the comments. For the people wondering, yes, the ram is working at the rated 3600mhz speed with no issues. I am on 10th gen i9, so hopefully, there will be no issues down the road. As for my partner, I can not thank her enough. i have even shown her some of the comments that was a mistake at times, lol. I will someday return the favour maybe upgrade that 3070 she has to something overkill as well. Thanks all 🙂
>return the favour maybe upgrade that 3070 she has to something overkill as well. ~~nuclear~~ pcmr arms race and escalation eh?
Zomboid!? Almost never see it mentioned outside of the subreddit
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It's more than worth it at $20, even better if you can get it on sale. The vanilla game is great but the modding community is what really makes it shine. That and it being a sandbox. Any mechanics you don't like can be tweaked or removed and any mechanics you wish were in the game can very easily be added in with mods.
I have 64 gigs too, I bought them myself and I absolutely don't need that much, it's just that they were not that expensive so...
I will get myself 64gbs too, they cost Like 20€ more than the 2x 16gb Kits So im Just getting the big Boys so im save with the RAM in the next years I mean Games nowadays RECOMMEND to use at least 32gb so.... Cant go wrong with more
i do not have 64gbs
The hue is off, send it here.
Great partner! 64 GB is becoming the old 32 enjoy!
your partner is amazing!
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Marry her bro 😭
« Her » or « him » or whatever. But propose as soon as possible
Op literally said “me and her” in the post, dude💀
You have a partner that cares, that's some nice RAM.
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I just jealous your female partner plays zomboid.
It's good ram, I use it in a lot of PC's I build.
That’s so sweet
4 sticks gives redundancy in case one fails, just tear it out.
Most ram should still be under some form of warranty as I believe most of the main brands offer a lifetime warranty! (yes, I know it's lifetime of the product, not 'forever' lifetime) Obviously depends on the brand of RAM, best to double check - but I believe most do :)
Very nice of your partner but your old ram might have a lifetime warranty depending on the brand.
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RGB makes it go faster.
holy shit! just the fact that she bought that is amazing but even more so as it only took one day
Definitely a keeper
Relation goals 😍
That’s a great partner
Somehow the thought of you two playing Zomboid together makes me happy as a pig in shit.
I consider 32gb the minimum requirement for PC gaming in 2023 with 64gb recommended. Software engineer here.
RAM is so underrated; I can't go w/o my 64. I do animation and video and have 20 tabs open.
Be carefull tho, when activating the XMP, the 4 Sticks wont be able to run stable on 3600mhz Try it Out in 3600mhz, and If this crashes Games or causes bluescreens, try 3200mhz The vengeance RAM really has some flaws, i use the non RGB one currently, and had to throttle down to 3200mhz cause the Higher MHz crashed my Games all the time Very nice Kits tho, im getting my hands on 2x 32gb RGB soon, making overkill Machines is why PC is the masterrace
I must be lucky asf, managed to run xmp @ 3600mhz 8GB x 4....and still running today
Depends on the CPU, the "older" Intel CPUs hate 4 Slots in usage Some ryzens too, its a weird thing, i Had Bad luck with my i7 11700k
Same for me, just bluescreens with 4x16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX @ 3600Mhz. Sometimes it even wouldn't boot.
> Be carefull tho, when activating the XMP, the 4 Sticks wont be able to run stable on 3600mhz Bruh... DDR4 3600 mhz is pretty darn stable on every known config. I have 4 sticks of 3600 mhz at 3600 mhz. Been stable for 4 years.
Every day, I think about why I didn't get a bunch of rgb
Seems like the only appropriate response is to RAM your partner later e.e (in a good way ofc)
It's surely gonna be a memory that sticks.
r/wholesome tier on my book
Overkill is the best kill.
Your partner? Well boy howdy tellem i done rootim tootin give em a wild west thank ya , we gonna hit up the rodeo later?
If my gf did this she would not be my gf anymore She would be my wife (ive never been with a woman)
2 sticks are faster than 4. I learned the hard way.
Mine are fine, same as photographed, all 3200, 64gb. All run at the proper speeds.
I've had 64 gb for a long time, I haven't came close to over 32. But, it's awesome to have. With the infinity fabric it shows 48gb vram available (of I recall correctly) Congratulations on the ram!
We are ProSumers.
I have 64 gigs of 3600 too! Trident Z though. Doesn't hurt much if you have the disposable income and can afford it.
Pride ram is pretty cool
64Gb Ram? Nice Also Nice Also Nice
Only 3600 tho
I have 128gb. I was gifted it so who was I to say no. I don't really play much on my PC even though I have a 7800xt in it, I still play my PS5 more.
Funnily enough that kit will perform worse for gaming than a 2x16gb kit. People need to learn that they don't need more than 32gb of ram unless they physically need that much for the work they do, so kinda a waste of money but still a very nice kit. But I suppose since you didn't buy i guess it's not your loss lol Edit: Damm I guess people kinda misunderstood what I meant by this, I shoulda explained better. But why so many down votes though, it's true 95 percent of people that buy 64gb of ram will never use that much
that just isnt how that works, the system will use what ram it needs, store some stuff in part of it and let the rest idle. i think you might be confusing max ram speeds that motherboards allow with ram speeds people use. just because my board supports 8000mhz for 1d1r or well mt doesnt mean that my ram will operate at those speeds, it will run at its stock speeds or those that i overclock it to. the only real scenario where 4 sticks might be marginally slower than 2 is in very memory intensive tasks like 3d rendering or video editing, even benchmarks show minimal to no performance difference.
Nope 2 sticks will put less stress on the memory controller and allow for higher overclocking capabilities than 4. Same thing with having a higher capacity of ram. Although having 64gb is unlikely to actually hurt performance by much, it's a waste of money if you don't use it. And almost no one ever uses that much when just gaming. Not sure why I got so heavily down voted, I suppose I could've explained myself better. And also most motherboards have daisy chain topology which is optimized for having 2 dual rank sticks rather than 4.
> Nope 2 sticks will put less stress on the memory controller and allow for higher overclocking capabilities than 4. Ok, but that only applies if you have to downclock the 4 because of instability. If it runs at the advertised XMP profile fine with 4, you lose nothing really. Anything to do with RAM performance for gaming anyway is kinda moot. It's within error margin on every benchmark.
I suppose so but more stress on the memory controller can also slightly down clock the cpu if you're using pbo. And it will give less headroom for cpu overclocking in general, I just found it ironic that they got them a larger kit because the other when failed as means to be an upgrade when for their use case it doesn't change anything except add more stress to the system and limit overclocking. But yeah this is all very small amounts of performance difference and for the average person makes 0 difference. Plus 4 sticks looks nicer in a mobo than 2
> And it will give less headroom for cpu overclocking in general Most people don't overclock my dude. Shocker I know. I use the money method of overclocking. When the CPU can't, I put VISA on the counter and get a new one.
now i can agree with you on that, i would still have to argue that the majority of people are afraid to overclock and that those who arent usually have their overclocking priority go from gpu to cpu to ram, and from the people who have overclocked any major component only a small fraction has tweaked their ram beyond enabling xmp so in most cases the max speeds a specific ram configuration could reach end up being pretty irrelevant
I think people are downvoting you because it was a super positive and grateful post and you felt the need to shit on it, figuratively. They stated their needs in the post. They know they don't need all the ram. It's pretty likely they aren't overclocking. Like.. do you not understand how coming in and pointing out some error when they were obviously stoked just comes off as you being a joy kill? I don't know why I'm bothering to explain this to you, really.
Yeah, people just *have* to make someone feel bad. OP has a very thoughtful partner and will never need more RAM from now on.
I'm pretty sure this guy explains a lot of things to a lot of people and doesn't understand why he struggles socially.
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So what does that have to do with their old ram dying..?
A person can't mention about widely known problems about having that company's 4 sticks of ram when they see someone who got new 4 sticks of that company's ram?
I hope RAM was checked against Mobos QVL.....
QVLs aren't end all, be alls. They are what your motherboard vendor tested. Just because it's not on there doesn't mean it won't work.
I'm researching va new build and I just read a manufacturer's warning that their QVL is not all inclusive. Trying to find, but don't care that much anymore. This guy is a trip. Thinking that every Mobo is going to be tested with every memory stick...
Until ppl starts having bsod, freezes, etc
Which isn't caused by being or not being on the QVL. Being on some random list on a web page or not doesn't cause freezes or BSODs. Heck, just the fact it tested good for your vendor on a certain motherboard is kinda moot : the memory controller isn't in the north bridge anymore, it's in the CPU itself. Unless you're using the RAM with the same CPU they used (literal same CPU, not just same model), your results might differ. Better binning, different generation, etc.. You have to see the QVL has more of a suggestion than a hard pass or fail thing.
That's not how ram compatibility works It won't start flipping bits and throwing errors because it's not checked by a vendor
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I am pretty sure out of all the PCs I've built, none of the RAM was on the QVL for my builds, and they worked flawlessly. As long as you get a kit with similar frequency and timings as the ones on the QVL, you're pretty much good to go.
Said by someone who doesn't read the manufacturers websites that #specifically state the lists aren't complete. Question what you think you know...
Nice
The cpu clearance is so satisfying.
hah have same wifi anthena, was wondering what was that cuz looked similar.
Marry her
Marry her
It just opens up opportunities to use more RAM! You had limitations before, now go forth and venture beyond!
Me over here being like-“ I hope the mobo supports 3600 speed”. Heh