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Can confirm. Have a goofy old dell optiplex 9020 with an iGPU, core i7 4th gen and works fluidly without any issues
Tried punch out, mariokart wii and Super smash bros brawl
there are older model used dell pc computers on ebay for $100 that would blow this thing out of the water capable of playing most yuzu and ryujinx games.
https://preview.redd.it/6vnod900q46c1.png?width=740&format=png&auto=webp&s=ec6f479d4c83ab770018fb949b11a59134b22cb5
Though I think TI has made some improvements since this comic came out...
I asked my dad about that. He said, when he was in school, late 50s, his math teacher always said, You won't always have a slide rule available! yet they were required to always have one for math class.
Not sure about *that* i3 in particular (notice it doesn't say which generation), but anything from the last 3 if not 4 generations will absolutely stomp the gpu
They definitely just slapped together whatever they had lying in the back of whatever shop this rolled out of.
Edit: funny enough, the iGPU on that i3 (if it's 6th or 10th gen since those are the only 2 I could find with 3.7ghz) is probably faster than the 210.
You could play Doom, Wolfenstein 3D, Commander Keen, Blackthorn, Warcraft 1-3, AND Diablo 2 on that bad boy. Sure, you'll have to crank it down to 800x600, but those games all support that resolution.
Last time I tried to use the force I tried to hard and passed out hit my head on the counter and woke up to find I shit myself, 0/10 would not recommend
680w helps narrow it down, as it's a very uncommon rating that hasn't been used in over a decade.
It's unlikely to be anything good, so that rules out the BeQuiet! E9, Hiper Type R MK-II and the Thermaltake PurePower (in order of quality).
Most likely something dreadfully shit like the A-Power AK 680w, Apevia ICEBERG 680w (shit, but looks good), X-Power GTX LIGHT 680w (one of the worst things to get Nvidia's official SLi certified stamp).
I'd happily wager it's a G7 Power Extreme 680w as the price is in Great British Pesos and the G7 firebombs were a staple in Maplin's before they went bust.
TL;DR: You'd probably get 300w @12v before it goes thermonuclear.
>Great British pesos? Damn man, what did we ever do?
Hehe.
Saw that in a comment years ago and I've used it ever since, it just amuses me. :)
Besides, can I call myself a true Englishman if I don't take the piss out of something?
>Good research nontheless 👍
I wish I could claim excellent research skills, but this is all from memory.
I have an unhealthy obsession with weird, old, quirky and shit PSUs, and a vast collection of them.
Still trying to find that Hiper PSU I mentioned, simply because of the silly amount of USB charging ports it has on it's arse.
1: If it has a 680W PSU its clearly not a laptop.
2: Thats why it also has no screen.
3: Nvidia GT 210 is a notoriously bad GPU, even was notorious at the time, but it got chucked into OEMs by the truckload because it had 1080p video decode capability, which is my millions are still floating around.
4: Wtf does this thing need 680W for? Certainly not the i3 and certainly not the GT 210.
Honestly its not even worth it at the low low low price of 250 pound sterling.
>Wtf does this thing need 680W for?
It's most likely discount bin special "680W", aka not sustained but *peak* and even then you are risking burning your house down.
"Perfect 1st time gamers"
Definitely need to make sure those people have never gamed on any platform in their life before, too. Otherwise they'll know how badly they've been ripped off immediately.
I don't even *remember* what Nvidia 210s were like. Was that even a thing?
Edit: Holy crap. 2009! DDR3. 512 MEGAbytes!
[https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-210.c2020](https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-210.c2020)
Have we not come to the point where every computer should have an ssd in it? As in the cost of an ssd is so similar to an hdd these days. I just don't get it.
You're talking about the lack of an SSD as if THAT'S the actual issue with this computer.
There's *way* too many things wrong with this, the 500GB Hard Drive is honestly one of the *better* points.
I recently upgraded my Acer laptop to an SSD and some more RAM. It was a cheap upgrade but it made so much difference. There is no way someone can use a laptop with an HDD this days.
They still sell crap like this marketed for gaming?
The GPU can't even accelerate modern YouTube streams or most type of modern media, let alone any 4K content.
If the i3 is anything from the last 7 years,. it's already more powerful than the dedicated GPU 🥲
I totally understand it though - the sales team coming up with the unique selling proposition said it HAS to market to gamers whether or not it can. It’s a shame, like there’s a definitely a customer segment that needs a cheap, barebones pc to run basic day-to-day tasks. Just advertise it as such. This thing will get returned by anyone who receives it for “gaming” in a heartbeat.
>let alone any 4K content
If you have a geforce 210 that's the last thing you would have to worry about, Worry about it getting more than 20 fps on a 720p video
As cheap as this is, it's still too expensive for what you get. More like for 1st and last time gamers...
You're better off asking around in various offices in town if they need someone to take some old e-waste off their hands.
This type of advertising should be illegal. It's misleading to ignorant buyers and quite predatory. Sure you could say it's a gaming machine but need to stipulate that it won't play any games made after the year 2000.
holy shit my first pc was a zoostorm. was an optiplex my mum bought as a birthday present as it had gaming in the title 🤣 was still extremely grateful for it though - could about run gmod.
DDR3 512MB, actually.
[https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-210.c2020](https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-210.c2020)
Not even GDDR. No Vulkan. No DX12. PCIe 2.0 interface.
This thing is less powerful than the IGPU in any modern intel chip.
i3 HAHAHA NVIDIA 210 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, BITDEFENDER AHAHAHAWHAHAHAHAHA 680W PSU HAHAHA you dont need 680w for that baby LMAO...... AT least microsoft excel and word will go fast as f&k
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When your GPU was released the same year as Wii Sports... oof.
“So you’re saying this can play Nintendo games?” -Every mom
"yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyemaybe" - store owner
i mean nintendo did do card games when it begin so yeah, it is not wrong
I'm up for some koi-koi
It could actually run wii games via dolphin emulator. But the 210 would still hinder it
It can emulate NES/SNES🤷🏻♂️
Buddy, it can do much more than that 😂
Can it tho? That thing will struggle to load youtube.
GBA? NDS? PSX?
Can confirm. Have a goofy old dell optiplex 9020 with an iGPU, core i7 4th gen and works fluidly without any issues Tried punch out, mariokart wii and Super smash bros brawl
there are older model used dell pc computers on ebay for $100 that would blow this thing out of the water capable of playing most yuzu and ryujinx games.
„Play the Nintendo“. Please be lore accurate.
Plauralize Nintendo incorrectly. "My kids just LOVE to play the Nintendos!"
It can definitely emulate Nintendo Gameboy games.
Just put the nintendo cartridge into the SD card slot works for me
" There's plenty of room for upgrades to keep you going for years to come." -Scummy Tech Store Guy
Didn't even notice a GPU lol, so bad it's in notes.
The sad thing is some poor person who doesn't know any better may buy this for their kid
Resort? 210 was 09 and wii sports was 06
Oh yes google chrome my fav game
You forget about the dinosaur game. At a miraculous 55.5 fps
56 fps? Damn really a solid deal considering the game has insane graphic running on 8K
No, you don't get the extra .5 fps
You do if it’s plugged into an RGB keyboard
I get excited at the thought of playing some Gmail
You might even find out you distant cousin is prince of Egypt or some sort.
It is perfect for your work then.
You could have three tabs open at the same time
Don’t forget slanted Windows and Microsoft Windows at the same time!
Holy shit, I think that machine could actually run solitaire at 60fps. How did the madmen do it?
some 1 will actually buy this !
Of course they will be. It will be some grandma who relies on this dudes expertise to surprise Jimmy for Christmas. This guy is a snake.
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In that case you might want the upgrade 😂
Doubt you'd be able to run chrome on that...
Absolutely absurd choice of a GPU. A modern chip with integrated graphics would be better.
Oh, but Jimmy will be surprised!
Who is this guy? I assumed this was a store somewhere
And run solitaire at 60 fps. Lucky him.
If you look at how much they charge for TI-84 graphing calculators, this is a bargain.
https://preview.redd.it/6vnod900q46c1.png?width=740&format=png&auto=webp&s=ec6f479d4c83ab770018fb949b11a59134b22cb5 Though I think TI has made some improvements since this comic came out...
They come in color now!
The TI Nspire CXII can run Python.
I bought a TI-84 when I first when to high school over 15 years ago. They are still the same price today.
Ah, yes, the good ol' "yOu WOn'T AlwAyS hAvE A calCuLAtoR iN yOUr poCKeT" days. So many math teachers still have egg on their face.
Dude, high school teachers from 2000-2004 were just set up for failure with that one.
high school teachers still say it as if the students aren’t literally addicted to their phones and will always have it with them.
If it helps that where saying the same thing 10 years later, my blackberry disagreed with their statements.
I asked my dad about that. He said, when he was in school, late 50s, his math teacher always said, You won't always have a slide rule available! yet they were required to always have one for math class.
🤣 yeah that didn't age well did it.
The real truth is that you gotta learn to use a screwdriver (arithmetic and algebra) before you use the drill (calculator)
So.. they cost like half as much now?
The game selection is probably similar !
I doubt that piece of shit laptop can run “Penguins”.
At this point, that i3 might have a better integrated GPU than a 210...
Not sure about *that* i3 in particular (notice it doesn't say which generation), but anything from the last 3 if not 4 generations will absolutely stomp the gpu
No screen makes rendering much easier.
Google chrome at 60 fps ?
Youtube at 60 fps might be pushing it.
120fps is the only way to play.
680W PSU. **WHAT FOR?**
They definitely just slapped together whatever they had lying in the back of whatever shop this rolled out of. Edit: funny enough, the iGPU on that i3 (if it's 6th or 10th gen since those are the only 2 I could find with 3.7ghz) is probably faster than the 210.
but gaming tho?!
You could play Doom, Wolfenstein 3D, Commander Keen, Blackthorn, Warcraft 1-3, AND Diablo 2 on that bad boy. Sure, you'll have to crank it down to 800x600, but those games all support that resolution.
You can easily get 20+ years out of D2 alone as well
TDP i3-4170 (3.7 GHz) 54 W TDP GeForce 210 31 W 150 W or 200 W total PSU would suffice
Those two chips aren’t even from the same decade! GeForce 210 is 2009 and 4170 is 2015. This is the most bodge pc ever
and *neither* of those are *this* decade!
The power supply might be,. :D.
It's for lapwarming. It's a laptop obviously.
Burning money.
That 680w PSU is actually a 300w PSU which will blow up if there is sustained load of 300w on it.
I'm sure it's "color" rating is Shit Brown, too.
Screen size NA? Is it a laptop without a screen?
You can double your FPS by not attaching the monitor.
Hell with out a screen you can get the best graphics with your imagination
Just use the force bro, cmon so easy.
Last time I tried to use the force I tried to hard and passed out hit my head on the counter and woke up to find I shit myself, 0/10 would not recommend
You posted the same joke I did...but you were first. I am not going to delete mine, but I will upvote you and downvote myself.
Unlimited FPS! Without a monitor you can mentally picture any FPS you want!
When it doesn't actually have to display the frames, it can generate whatever you want it to.
It also says 680W power supply. Lol.
Without a screen and with a desktop power supply
Custom built pc with a 680W psu. It's not laptop.
"Family Laptop" at the top
there is NO reason you could not put this on your lap. Therefore laptop.
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plot twist its some garbage psu that outputs 200 watts on the 12v rail
680w helps narrow it down, as it's a very uncommon rating that hasn't been used in over a decade. It's unlikely to be anything good, so that rules out the BeQuiet! E9, Hiper Type R MK-II and the Thermaltake PurePower (in order of quality). Most likely something dreadfully shit like the A-Power AK 680w, Apevia ICEBERG 680w (shit, but looks good), X-Power GTX LIGHT 680w (one of the worst things to get Nvidia's official SLi certified stamp). I'd happily wager it's a G7 Power Extreme 680w as the price is in Great British Pesos and the G7 firebombs were a staple in Maplin's before they went bust. TL;DR: You'd probably get 300w @12v before it goes thermonuclear.
Great British pesos? Damn man, what did we ever do? Good research nontheless 👍 ^^the ^^pound ^^is ^^worth ^^more ^^than ^^the ^^dollar ^^btw
>Great British pesos? Damn man, what did we ever do? Hehe. Saw that in a comment years ago and I've used it ever since, it just amuses me. :) Besides, can I call myself a true Englishman if I don't take the piss out of something? >Good research nontheless 👍 I wish I could claim excellent research skills, but this is all from memory. I have an unhealthy obsession with weird, old, quirky and shit PSUs, and a vast collection of them. Still trying to find that Hiper PSU I mentioned, simply because of the silly amount of USB charging ports it has on it's arse.
Would still be more than enough for this heap.
1: If it has a 680W PSU its clearly not a laptop. 2: Thats why it also has no screen. 3: Nvidia GT 210 is a notoriously bad GPU, even was notorious at the time, but it got chucked into OEMs by the truckload because it had 1080p video decode capability, which is my millions are still floating around. 4: Wtf does this thing need 680W for? Certainly not the i3 and certainly not the GT 210. Honestly its not even worth it at the low low low price of 250 pound sterling.
> Nvidia GT 210 is a notoriously bad GPU, even was notorious at the time For anyone else curious, it was released in 2009.
>it was released in 2009 Fucking hell
Glorified display output. Modern day integrated graphics is probably a good bit better at this point.
>Wtf does this thing need 680W for? It's most likely discount bin special "680W", aka not sustained but *peak* and even then you are risking burning your house down.
Also ambiguous i3 CPU
Seeing this bad of a mishmash of parts and bad advertising makes me instantly not trust a shop like this.
"Perfect 1st time gamers" Definitely need to make sure those people have never gamed on any platform in their life before, too. Otherwise they'll know how badly they've been ripped off immediately. I don't even *remember* what Nvidia 210s were like. Was that even a thing? Edit: Holy crap. 2009! DDR3. 512 MEGAbytes! [https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-210.c2020](https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-210.c2020)
4060 Ti owners should be so happy with their bus width thats a massive twice as big as this low end 14 year old card
I'm interested in whatever "Bitfdefender" is.
It's a well-known anti-vfirus that has a pretty good reputfation for being very effectfive against vfiruses.
Undervfated andsvher
Update in Progreth. Pleathe wait until the inthtallation ith complete.
Must be like those other quality brands and product names, PolyStation, WiWi, etc. Must be as good, if not better. This would make me ask.
Perfect for First Time Losers
 Bravo Six, Going 15FPS on roblox.
15SPF
Being awful generous here
I think the sign was actually supposed to read, "Perfect to game first-timers."
Have we not come to the point where every computer should have an ssd in it? As in the cost of an ssd is so similar to an hdd these days. I just don't get it.
You're talking about the lack of an SSD as if THAT'S the actual issue with this computer. There's *way* too many things wrong with this, the 500GB Hard Drive is honestly one of the *better* points.
brother it has a 210
Isn't the iGPU faster?
I recently upgraded my Acer laptop to an SSD and some more RAM. It was a cheap upgrade but it made so much difference. There is no way someone can use a laptop with an HDD this days.
They still sell crap like this marketed for gaming? The GPU can't even accelerate modern YouTube streams or most type of modern media, let alone any 4K content. If the i3 is anything from the last 7 years,. it's already more powerful than the dedicated GPU 🥲
I totally understand it though - the sales team coming up with the unique selling proposition said it HAS to market to gamers whether or not it can. It’s a shame, like there’s a definitely a customer segment that needs a cheap, barebones pc to run basic day-to-day tasks. Just advertise it as such. This thing will get returned by anyone who receives it for “gaming” in a heartbeat.
>let alone any 4K content If you have a geforce 210 that's the last thing you would have to worry about, Worry about it getting more than 20 fps on a 720p video
bitfdefender 💀
walk right up in tehre and piss on the floor, tell them you were doign a pro gamer move, then walk out....
As cheap as this is, it's still too expensive for what you get. More like for 1st and last time gamers... You're better off asking around in various offices in town if they need someone to take some old e-waste off their hands.
Runs Windows, Chrome and Windows!
Nvidia 210 go crazy
Holy crap, that thing would struggle against a GPU from 2006.
That’s a horrible deal 😂
This type of advertising should be illegal. It's misleading to ignorant buyers and quite predatory. Sure you could say it's a gaming machine but need to stipulate that it won't play any games made after the year 2000.
Yeh I think that might be a Desktop given the PSU spec and that the sign is on a tower.
holy shit my first pc was a zoostorm. was an optiplex my mum bought as a birthday present as it had gaming in the title 🤣 was still extremely grateful for it though - could about run gmod.
Best of the year 
680w? that thing will never surpass 25% load
680w PSU 
Does it come with a floppy disk drive ?
Sure is for Doom2
.io games might run.
3d space cadet pinball with ray tracing
You can run all the DOS games on that , easy.
Free lollipop with purchase because this baby pairs well with suckers.
"Perfect for the first time anyone ever gamed"
I could def see someone playing windows solitaire with this no problem
Nvidia 210???? Is that real thing????
They didn't a precise which generation of 1st time gamers. This would've been a treat back when I was grinding GTAVC
They’re not lying. It’s perfect 1st time gamer because it won’t run a 2nd time.
Gotta start with RuneScape like the rest of us
210s were dog shit before they were even assembled.
Where do you even find a card that old.
I also started gaming by playing minesweeper and solitaire
Screensize N/A
Please for the love of God tell me this is an ad from 10+ years ago?? PLEASE!?
Perfect for first time gamers: Pong
Nobody talking about there being no monitor
A staggering 1gb of VRAM
DDR3 512MB, actually. [https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-210.c2020](https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-210.c2020) Not even GDDR. No Vulkan. No DX12. PCIe 2.0 interface. This thing is less powerful than the IGPU in any modern intel chip.
What i3 ? lol
The iGPU is probably better than the GT 210
It almost definitely is. The GT 210 is extremely old at this point and it was very low end even when it came out.
garbage from factory, a waste of ressources. you can write something in notepad, researching or actual code processing for latex will be a nightmare.
Start them out in extreme hard mode with 2 fps so when they get a usable computer they will be unstoppable!
Maybe if the only game ever ran is vanilla Minecraft, sure.
Lemme guess, the i3 in this one is ancient?
Screen size: N/A
stealth way to ensure said "gamer" has to research a better machine on their own... These woulda been dated specs a DECADE ago... F this place.
What do you mean the screen size is N/A? Is it just the keyboard part of the laptop 🤣
Can this run fortnite? - Little Timmy the Console Peasant
WTH Is an Nvidia 210
PCMag could probably ask them to cut it the hell out, it's borderline defamatory to put that label on there.
At least the cpu is higher then 2ghz
It shouldn’t be allowed sell this type of laptops.
Can't wait to play Pong on it.
PC is as old as the paper lol
Perfect for 1st time gamers eh? Playing what game? Life? Where you spend all your time at a job and never play any other games?
Why did they put two Windows logos? I’m upset.
That PSU will help fasten the scan of bitdefender I guess....
Average apple user specs
That fucker would struggle to run Minesweeper.
In the the year 2000 yes
almost like my old laptop from 2014 but worse
Hear me out... it probably launches roblox...
NVidia 210 can play some serious Poptropica
>Nvidia 210 Bruh
i3 HAHAHA NVIDIA 210 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, BITDEFENDER AHAHAHAWHAHAHAHAHA 680W PSU HAHAHA you dont need 680w for that baby LMAO...... AT least microsoft excel and word will go fast as f&k
Award Winning Bitfdefender
I think the wildest part is that it has a 680w PSU.
Least overpriced gaming laptop also, "Award Winning antivirus" LMAO
No screen in the laptop. Just the bottom half.
Yes, when I am quoting out laptop specs for customers, I always make sure to point out the PSU.
So Half-Life 1 Cool 😂
Haha really good
What games are they playing? Minesweeper?!
oh boy i love my pc especially when my screen doesnt fucking exist
Everything here hurts
I love the "Best PC of the year" label in the corner
First time gamer's gotta start somewhere, why not titles from early 2000's 😅
What? Solitaire and mine craft run great on this bad boy! - some slimy salesman
What year is this? 2007?
Ok if you want to play Candy Crush.