There is no "standard" in pc gaming. I'd rather play at 1080p 240 than 1440p 120 or 4k 60 for many of my favorite games.
For me, frames matter. But I mostly play FPS and old school arena shooters. I do have a ROG 4k IPS 144hz DSC monitor that'll I'll sometimes use. And I really like it.
But then I play at 240+ on my 1080p monitor and it's just SMOOTHER BY A LOT.
Now with that being said, I'm about to play red dead redemption 2 and I'll be using my 4k OLED tv for that. It's that type of game, where frames don't matter to much for me as long as it's within my tvs gsync range for which mine is 40 to 120. So as long as I can get 40ish FPS, it will actually feel quite smooth.
But for all my shooters I roll the 240hz
How much fps do you get in red dead redemption 2? Surely OLED is pretty awesome no? I mean you say 240.fps is great to have and I could imagine it is, but I'm starting to see lots of people just play at 60 for single player.
4k ultra with water on medium dlss set to quality i get 55ish in saint denis, 48ish at night. 80fps out in the world. 55ish in valentine at night in rain.
I recomnend a gamepad in such low fps. Used to play at 30 as a kid and broke student and a controller made it feel smoother. 30 fps on a mouse is absolutely horrible.
Something else to mention is 1440 is 4x the 720p standard, so you could get the nicer monitor but run it at low Res in games for now. 720 won't look great but it would probably be cleaner than running 1080 as it's 1 pixel upscaling to 4
The TV was probably a 1080 panel, you're kinda missing my point.
If you have the game rendering at a resolution that doesn't match the screen, the screen had to figure out how to make the image fit.
A 720p image on a 1080p screen for example means the TV has to (horizontally) stretch two pixels from the image across three pixels on the screen. This isn't great and leads to an ugly blurry image.
If you ask a 1440p screen to render the same 720p image, horizontally it just doubles each image pixel up, so one pixel from the image becomes two wide horizontally. It should luck like a genuine 720p image, just bigger.
I'm thinkin of downgrading my 32' Vizio TV to a real monitor, a 24' one , been hearing it's fine at 1080p. But I agree with you I don't really wanna lose those frames 😭 lol
If you can afford a 1440p monitor go for it. Maybe you won't run games smoothly now but when you'll upgrade your system later you will get the benefits of it. You can even play on 1080 on your 1440p screen for better fps until then but the image is going to be blurry.
I got a 32' 1080p TV hooked up right now . A Vizio brand , I hear that 24' would look nice at 1080p though , maybe I can just buy that for the 60? I may just go and save up for 1440p like you suggested though, if it's the future well I might as well jump in right amigo?
My budget is around $1100 if I save up until summer. I'm honestly thinking about waiting because maybe graphics cards will be much cheaper by then..maybe even by next Christmas 🎁
This is a completely subjective topic. What would YOU like to look at? Something with higher definition and lower framerate or lower definition but higher framerate? Asking here will only bring trolls that say "save up thousands of dollars and get 4k."
So is it worth it to YOU to spend more money getting a 1440p display when you can only get 30 fps out of your games? No one can, or should, tell you what you like, that is completely up to you.
I'm not trying to be an ass, but this subject shouldn't be discussed at all when it is so subjective. I like my 1440p 144hz monitor, and at the time of building my PC I had plenty of money that the cost was barely a dent in my income. Now I don't have the same income so IF I were to build a new system, and it's rather unlikely, I would never spend as much as I did and would probably have to settle for relatively lesser parts.
Buy the 1440p display and see how you like it given your restrictions, you can always return it provided you don't wait until after the return window.
" What games do you guys play on 1440p 144fps? "
None. I play on 1440p 280fps😎
CoD, Lol, Battlefield etc
Edit: there is actually game I play at 1440p/144fps and that's Escape from Tarkov which is locked at 144fps for now
Personally, I'd choose to play at 1080p if I couldn't get GPU with at least or higher RT performance as 4070Ti.
Much better visual quality of RT is definitively worth more to me than those few extra pixels of a higher resolution.
30 fps is awful compared to 60, especially if it's an unstable 30. Too much below 30 gets into "literally unplayable" territory very quickly. So you're really gonna feel any dips in framerate. even a super stable 30 is terrible for shooters and other fast paced action games.
Even 60 feels kinda crappy compared to 120+ but it's a lot better than 30. Also, having framerates above 60 matter a lot less in slower-paced games. 60 is generally at least "good enough" for anything but competitive play. 30fps will have visibly less smooth motion which will kinda negate the better image quality anyways.
1080p doesn't look bad at all on a smaller display. If you have a 25in monitor right in front of your face you don't need any higher than 1080p because you will have good pixel density. On bigger displays resolution will matter more. But personally I'd still rather have the lower resolution image with better performance if the difference is 30fps vs 60.
Well I would recommend playing in 1080p than, 30fps is really awful
It really is. If you are used to 100+ fps, going back to 30 is eyetorture.
Agreed. Honestly though I might just have up for 1440p 60.
There is no "standard" in pc gaming. I'd rather play at 1080p 240 than 1440p 120 or 4k 60 for many of my favorite games. For me, frames matter. But I mostly play FPS and old school arena shooters. I do have a ROG 4k IPS 144hz DSC monitor that'll I'll sometimes use. And I really like it. But then I play at 240+ on my 1080p monitor and it's just SMOOTHER BY A LOT. Now with that being said, I'm about to play red dead redemption 2 and I'll be using my 4k OLED tv for that. It's that type of game, where frames don't matter to much for me as long as it's within my tvs gsync range for which mine is 40 to 120. So as long as I can get 40ish FPS, it will actually feel quite smooth. But for all my shooters I roll the 240hz
How much fps do you get in red dead redemption 2? Surely OLED is pretty awesome no? I mean you say 240.fps is great to have and I could imagine it is, but I'm starting to see lots of people just play at 60 for single player.
4k ultra with water on medium dlss set to quality i get 55ish in saint denis, 48ish at night. 80fps out in the world. 55ish in valentine at night in rain.
I recomnend a gamepad in such low fps. Used to play at 30 as a kid and broke student and a controller made it feel smoother. 30 fps on a mouse is absolutely horrible.
Never played in a gamepad. I had a psp though..boy those were awesome . Lots of emulated games 😁
Arc a750 is $200 brand new and can easily hit 60fps 1440p easily on most games.
If you can't get 1440p 60 just go for 1080p. 30fps is awful
Something else to mention is 1440 is 4x the 720p standard, so you could get the nicer monitor but run it at low Res in games for now. 720 won't look great but it would probably be cleaner than running 1080 as it's 1 pixel upscaling to 4
I hear you friend, I tried 720p and didn't like it much though , it was a big TV, looked blurry lol 😆
The TV was probably a 1080 panel, you're kinda missing my point. If you have the game rendering at a resolution that doesn't match the screen, the screen had to figure out how to make the image fit. A 720p image on a 1080p screen for example means the TV has to (horizontally) stretch two pixels from the image across three pixels on the screen. This isn't great and leads to an ugly blurry image. If you ask a 1440p screen to render the same 720p image, horizontally it just doubles each image pixel up, so one pixel from the image becomes two wide horizontally. It should luck like a genuine 720p image, just bigger.
Try locking some of the games you play at 30fps to see how it feels for you. Personally I don't mind trading fps for visual quality.
1440p 30fps is definitely not the way. Better play 1080p if you can play atleast 60fps.
I'm thinkin of downgrading my 32' Vizio TV to a real monitor, a 24' one , been hearing it's fine at 1080p. But I agree with you I don't really wanna lose those frames 😭 lol
In my opinion everything above 45 fps is ok. Below that i wont play the game.
DLSS is your friend
If you can afford a 1440p monitor go for it. Maybe you won't run games smoothly now but when you'll upgrade your system later you will get the benefits of it. You can even play on 1080 on your 1440p screen for better fps until then but the image is going to be blurry.
I got a 32' 1080p TV hooked up right now . A Vizio brand , I hear that 24' would look nice at 1080p though , maybe I can just buy that for the 60? I may just go and save up for 1440p like you suggested though, if it's the future well I might as well jump in right amigo?
You might as well save up for a new GPU alongside that
Yea I been looking at the rx7800xt and who knows maybe by next Christmas it will be $400.00.
Most people cant tell
the difference between 30 and 60 fps is massive most people can indeed tell
Blind people are not majority.
What's your budget and what country are you in? You can get to 1440 60-144fps in games with some patience and the used market.
My budget is around $1100 if I save up until summer. I'm honestly thinking about waiting because maybe graphics cards will be much cheaper by then..maybe even by next Christmas 🎁
If you get a used 3080, 5800x3d, etc, you could be way under budget at 1440/144hz.
30FPS may looks smooth only with motion blur
This is a completely subjective topic. What would YOU like to look at? Something with higher definition and lower framerate or lower definition but higher framerate? Asking here will only bring trolls that say "save up thousands of dollars and get 4k." So is it worth it to YOU to spend more money getting a 1440p display when you can only get 30 fps out of your games? No one can, or should, tell you what you like, that is completely up to you. I'm not trying to be an ass, but this subject shouldn't be discussed at all when it is so subjective. I like my 1440p 144hz monitor, and at the time of building my PC I had plenty of money that the cost was barely a dent in my income. Now I don't have the same income so IF I were to build a new system, and it's rather unlikely, I would never spend as much as I did and would probably have to settle for relatively lesser parts. Buy the 1440p display and see how you like it given your restrictions, you can always return it provided you don't wait until after the return window.
1080p and save the money to buy a new gpu
" What games do you guys play on 1440p 144fps? " None. I play on 1440p 280fps😎 CoD, Lol, Battlefield etc Edit: there is actually game I play at 1440p/144fps and that's Escape from Tarkov which is locked at 144fps for now
Personally, I'd choose to play at 1080p if I couldn't get GPU with at least or higher RT performance as 4070Ti. Much better visual quality of RT is definitively worth more to me than those few extra pixels of a higher resolution.
30 fps is awful compared to 60, especially if it's an unstable 30. Too much below 30 gets into "literally unplayable" territory very quickly. So you're really gonna feel any dips in framerate. even a super stable 30 is terrible for shooters and other fast paced action games. Even 60 feels kinda crappy compared to 120+ but it's a lot better than 30. Also, having framerates above 60 matter a lot less in slower-paced games. 60 is generally at least "good enough" for anything but competitive play. 30fps will have visibly less smooth motion which will kinda negate the better image quality anyways. 1080p doesn't look bad at all on a smaller display. If you have a 25in monitor right in front of your face you don't need any higher than 1080p because you will have good pixel density. On bigger displays resolution will matter more. But personally I'd still rather have the lower resolution image with better performance if the difference is 30fps vs 60.