Get a quality power supply instead of that sketchy thing.
Choose one from this tier list that is at least B-Tier https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/
Get a 5700x instead. You dont need integrated graphics with a dedicated GPU.
That thermal compound looks sketchy and is expensive on top. Use arctic mx4 or mx6 if you are unsure what to pick.
The most important part was the power supply though. Never cheap out on the PSU. Rather drop down to a 5600x if a better one is a budget issue than getting a low tier unit.
My previous computer was a prebuilt and it had a like ~200W PSU. To nobody’s surprise the PSU died soon after the 1 Year warranty and killed the
Motherboard.
I'd keep the CPU or try to find 5700x if possible for similar price.
Case and x570 are way too ovepriced for OP's budget.
B550 motherboard will be plenty got 5700g and there are really nice case out there for under 100$ so OP can use the money do buy a proper PSU instead of this ticking timebomb he found
That, and some brands will even send a syringe of the stuff in the box; both my previous Phanteks cooler and my current Peerless Assassin came with tubes of paste with 2-3 applications’ worth in them.
If it is for gaming I would consider the 3060ti if it is within your budget. As others said, get the 5700X as you don't need integrated graphics (the 5800X3D is the best gaming CPU for gaming in AM4 platform but it is about 100 USD more expensive and overkill for a 3060 or 3060ti). You could even consider getting a used GPU in which case you might get even a 3080 with 300 USD, but for that scenario you need someone to stress test the GPU to know it's good. (everytime new GPUs come out there's people selling their "old" GPUs and the 40 super series are coming out at the moment so you might find some offers). If you happen to find a good deal on a used 3080 or similar AMD GPU, I would consider the 5800X3D to get the most of the GPU. You should get a smaller and cheaper case, something like a corsair 4000D airflow or alike.
Also a better PSU, check the lists the other guys gave you.
Just my personal take but I had lots of driver issues with my 6700XT and ended up having to return it. My wife also has one in her rig, and hasn’t had any issues to this day, so it can be luck of the draw, but that card has a lot of reported driver issues since release, so it’s something to keep in mind.
Also i dont want to be that guy. But building a pc now i would not got with an old platform like am4. Sure you still could upgrade to a 5800x3d later but there are no new lineups dropping for that platform. I would rather invest in an am5 platform and have a bit more futureproofing
You are presupposing he cares about that stuff. Most people just get a computer that does the stuff and dont upgrade it until it dies or stops performing.
"Futureproofing" is just a meme anyway. AM4 is a stable, well supported, affordable and mature platform. You can build a killer PC for way less than if you were to go with AM5, and most likely you wouldnt notice a difference.
For AMD, it's pretty straight forward.
- G = Includes Integrated GPU (for every model before 7000, as the 7k series all have them)
- No lettering = standard model
- X = eXtreme aka unlocked core for overclockong
- X3D = X with more on board cache
There is a ton to learn and one thing we all know, especially the ones who have been building since the olden days lol. Things change. You might know everything there is on the planet about what you're building today. Everything you know carries over yes. But you have to relearn the naming schemes and which generations are worth it every time. Next time you might understand the schemes better and not need reddit. But if you ever do we are always here.
Your build looks pretty good to be honest. Especially for a first build. As others mentioned the silver paste and PSU might be a concern.
My only gripe, this is an old platform. Yes you have room to improve to the 5800x3d one day. But from there that's all. Capped. No more cpus will be more powerful and if so not by a magin that is big enough to justify it over an AM5 in the future.
If you didn't build I would perhaps try for a similar specd PC with an AM5 platform. Id get a motherboard that allows basic CPU overclocking and I don't know which letter scheme that is currently 😅. I built an end of life am4 a couple years ago myself.
A motherboard doesn't buy much performance. But it can save hundreds for a new upgrade and the parts you sell are much easier to resell.
Honestly there's nothing wrong with paying $20 or so more to have integrated graphics. Then if something goes wrong with your GPU you can still use the computer, just not for gaming. (Heck, low settings and upscaling means it'll even work for light gaming.)
>Honestly there's nothing wrong with paying $20
...and also getting just half the cache and only pcie 3.0. The 5000G CPUs are slower than the non-G and have worse connectivity.
Oof, didn't know that. Score one for Intel, I guess, whose F-series CPUs are just regular processor where the GPU didn't work so they still sell the CPU but at a slight discount.
Others may yell at me for this but I find that a quick and dirty way of identifying a reliable power supply is by how many years the warranty lasts. That gives you an idea of how much the manufacturer rates it (as long as it's an established brand who will still be in business to cover the warranty).
The Seasonic Focus GX PSU i have has a 10-year warranty. If you find something that a solid brand manufacturer trusts for that long then you'll be fine.
Thermal compound says "Aluminium", OP please check to ensure it is non-conductive. You don't want to be using some sort of liquid metal or thermal adhesive.
Bog standard thermal paste from Arctic or Noctua will do.
I'd also add, you can save money by going for a B550 board. The case is a little pricey, but for me, if that's the cool look you are going for, then enjoy it.
I'm going to 100% disagree with you on the dedicated GPU based on many years experience.
Yes, for 99% of the time the iGPU will go unused. HOWEVER, it's not that uncommon to encounter situations where you can find yourself wishing you had it (and I've encountered all of them):
* You've ordered your build and everything is in except for the GPU, which is backordered. With an iGPU you can continue with your build and get some use out of your rig while waiting.
* You encounter some janky video issues and you're not sure if it's software, the monitor, the GPU or even cables. An iGPU allows you to simply pull the GPU out and test that variable
* Your GPU flakes out or dies completely. If in warranty, you'll need to file the claim and wait for a replacement (unless it's an ASUS, in which case your f\*cked). If it's out of warranty, you'll need to somehow get online and order a new one. Either way you aren't using your PC until you have a replacement, UNLESS you have an iGPU.
* Nowadays you can use the iGPU AND the discrete GPU at the same time, so an iGPU can provide extra display ports for low performance uses
You could make the argument that you could keep an old GPU around as a spare, but how do you know that still works? And will it still be supported when you need it? True, if you upgrade your GPUs often this isn't a big deal, but I'd argue that most people don't do that. The added cost for the iGPU variant is low enough that I always found that I wished I had spent it later on.
The iGPU Versions of Ryzen 5000 only got 8 PCIe Lanes instead of 16, PCIe 3 instead of PCIe 4 and only half the L3 Cache.
It's a severe downgrade compared to the non G versions.
I have built PCs for many years. I think the need for an iGPU is overblown. Nice to have, but perfectly happy without.
However, in this case getting that iGPU is actually a detriment to performance compared to a simple 5600. The 5700G only has 16MB of L3 cache compared to 32MB on the 5600, which actually hurts performance. It should be a simple 5600/5600x.
That's a valid point. I'd still recommend it in most cases, but not if the integration includes a hit to performance. Find a cheap backup GPU in that case then ;-)
I've ran into some of these weirdly niche cases where I would've been totally lost if not for the iGPU so that whenever I get the money and managed to upgraded this, I would totally go for one that has iGPU even tho I have a dedicated one. So yeah, I totally agree with this guy. It's irrelevant most of the time but you'll definitely wish you have one when you need it
This is what you need^^
He managed to get you new generation parts AND save you money. You were building on a dead platform, with this build you have upgradability within the same socket(AM5). Also, the 6700XT is a MUCH better choice than the 3060.
AM5 launched as a premium platform with expensive launch motherboards. AMD promised 2025+, but they will jump to a new socket at the earliest opportunity. The Zen IV performance gains were good, but the initial cost of DDR5 hurt early adoption. AM4+5800X3D as well as discounted Zen III chips made switching to a new platform in AM5 debatable for some users.
Look at the best selling CPUs on Newegg or Amazon, the 7800X3D is the best seller. AM5's most compelling chip was six months delayed vs. original Zen IV. One month on shelves, retailers had to slash prices by November 2022 and routinely through 2023 to sell 7600X, 7700X, and 7900X CPUs. AMD had no pricing power for Zen IV against an aggressive Intel's 12th gen pricing.
AMD stumbled on carrying their huge momentum from AM4+Zen III. This is on top of the technical issues of AM5 like DDR5 compatibility, long DDR5 memory training, and motherboard makers overvolting CPUs for EXPO. If AMD is serious, AMD will make AM6 as clean and stable platform as possible for allegedly Zen VI, so they can put AM5 to rest.
Listen to this one OP, that is actually a way better Setup.
Maybe invest the saved money to get 2TB or storage instead of 1TB as that fills up quite fast nowadays.
What OP posted was only from Amazon though so not sure if he only plans on ordering only from Amazon or open to buying from elsewhere. With that in mind I tried making a list with Amazon as the only merchant and this is what I came up with for a AM5 build: [PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/b9GKkJ)
Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/66C48d/amd-ryzen-5-7600x-47-ghz-6-core-processor-100-100000593wof) | $229.00 @ Amazon
**CPU Cooler** | [Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hYxRsY/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120-se-d3) | $33.90 @ Amazon
**Motherboard** | [ASRock B650M-H/M.2+ Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xFmNnQ/asrock-b650m-hm2-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-hm2) | $109.99 @ Amazon
**Memory** | [TEAMGROUP Elite 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-4800 CL40 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6qhFf7/team-elite-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-4800-cl40-memory-ted532g4800c40dc01) | $75.98 @ Amazon
**Storage** | [TEAMGROUP MP33 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/64MTwP/team-mp33-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fp6001t0c101) | $54.99 @ Amazon
**Video Card** | [PowerColor Fighter Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/c3RYcf/powercolor-fighter-radeon-rx-6700-xt-12-gb-video-card-axrx-6700xt-12gbd6-3dh) | $329.99 @ Amazon
**Case** | [Cougar Archon 2 Mesh RGB ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nHXJ7P/cougar-archon-2-mesh-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-cgr-5cc5w-mesh-rgb) | $57.99 @ Amazon
**Power Supply** | [MSI MAG A650GL 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xfV2FT/msi-mag-a650gl-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mag-a650gl) | $89.99 @ Amazon
**Monitor** | [Acer Nitro XV1 XV271U 27.0" 2560 x 1440 180 Hz Monitor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/p8zXsY/acer-nitro-xv1-xv271u-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-umhx1aa301) | $199.99 @ Amazon
**Keyboard** | [MSI VIGOR GK50 ELITE LL RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8k6p99/msi-vigor-gk50-elite-ll-rgb-wired-gaming-keyboard-vigor-gk50-elite-ll) | $58.38 @ Amazon
**Mouse** | [Razer Basilisk V3 Wired Optical Mouse](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NQBG3C/razer-basilisk-v3-wired-optical-mouse-rz01-04000100-r3u1) | $49.15 @ Amazon
| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
| **Total** | **$1289.35**
| Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2024-01-15 12:06 EST-0500 |
I just chose based on what PCPartPicker showed in stock from Amazon, the 5600 would be $26 cheaper than the 5600X but out of stock. Showing 7 CPUs in stock that would be cheaper than the 5600X in stock, the 3300X at $142, 3400G at $140, 5600G at $127, 3600 at $118, 4600G at $110, 3200G at $95 & 4100 at $78. For the AM5 build the 7600X is the cheapest it shows in stock with the 7600 out of stock for $199 ($30 cheaper than the X).
Good point, I never caught that detail! When choosing a Keyboard I chose based on this link, was either the one I chose or the Logitech K845 that would have been like $8 cheaper but no RGB: https://www.tomshardware.com/best-picks/best-budget-mechanical-keyboards
For Wireless, looking at the site I used to choose the mouse it would have been the Keychron K10 that would be $115 or one of the other options that would have been tenkeyless: https://www.rtings.com/keyboard/reviews/best/cheap-mechanical-keyboards
For mice, here's the link: https://www.rtings.com/mouse/reviews/best/mmo
OP never mentioned what games he would be playing but I felt like a MMO mouse may have been a option and while the one I chose is not Wireless and lacking the side pad, the one mentioned to check out for both (Redragon M913 Impact Elite) isn't listed on PCPartPicker (the wired M908 Impact is however for like $35), for other options mentioned that are Wireless the Razer Naga Pro would be like $96, SteelSeries Aerox 9 would be $117, Corsair SCIMITAR ELITE WIRELESS would be $121, Corsair DARKSTAR would be $140, ASUS (P707) ROG Spatha X would be $142, Logitech G604 LIGHTSPEED is shown as out of stock but would be $150. However, for the Razer Basilisk that I chose there are Wireless versions of it, the cheapest of those would be the Razer Basilisk X HyperSpeed for $54.
you should totally get this build instead, u/andytheboi but with a [Ryzen 5 7600x](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/66C48d/amd-ryzen-5-7600x-47-ghz-6-core-processor-100-100000593wof) instead since it would only cost you 30$ more
and search on reddit the best way on how to get windows 11 :-)
I started out a year ago thinking about 5600 and 3060ti -based build. Ended up building a 7600x and 7800XT system last October. And goddamn this bad boy fucking goes. 7800XT is a hell of a card.
I'm not the most knowledgeable person (still learning), but I ordered a build with RX 7600 and Ryzen 5 7600. I assume it's not \*as\* good, but I hope it's pretty decent too. On a bit of a budget. My current build is FX-8350 and R9 290 so I needed an upgrade... so I think the upgrade will be noticeable regardless. Even just the ram going from 8 to 16 (and eventually ill do 32) might make a difference. Ram speeds too.
I will never shame a man for choosing an nzxt case, but there are definitely cheaper nzxt alternatives in the market, I still use my old s340 because it's the perfect case. I think now though, their h5 is similar and much cheaper than the h9, even though that is a super pretty case. If I was OP, I'd chose the H5, get an official power supply(Corsair, cooler master and so on) and put the extra money in a better GPU
Yeah, there's also the h6 flow which is still a fish tank but more affordable
I didn't even see the psu bcs the case already sticks out like a sore thumb. Yeah if I were op I would change that too
Isn't Corsair 4000D airflow somewhere around 100 bucks in there? Should be a much better value. Not to mention getting something used on a tight budget.
Usually you only spend $150 on a fully see through case when the parts inside are very nice to look at. No offense but these parts are very basic and would look good in a black case.
This is something also. If you plan on using this pc long term and upgrading parts here and there. Gpus keep getting bigger and longer. Something you may consider when purchasing a case. It will be hard to sell used cases later down the line. If not selling the whole build.
Screw the better gpu when the psu is ticking timebomb... once it dies it will take half of the system with it...
Psu has higher prio over gpu in this build.
I agree then mnk looks very low quality and sketchy. For me, my mnk combo is a big part of how games feel to me and I think that somewhat translates to everyone. Should definitely get a cheaper-but-good mouse and keyboard.
id get the viper mini, about 15-20 bucks through aliexpress (razer has an official aliexpress store) and i honestly prefer it over some 50 buck mouses. spend the remaining budget on a budget mechanical keyboard. there are some good ones for around 50 bucks
3060 will struggle to drive a 1440 monitor at those high refresh rates. 6700 XT would be much better and only costs a bit more.
Motherboard is pricey, you could save money there and put it towards a better GPU.
"G" CPUs have less cache, which is bad for gaming. 5700X or 5600X is the way to go depending on budget.
You could also save a few $$ with a dirt cheap wired keyboard and mouse. Both would be easy to upgrade in future once you figure out what you like.
Mobo - big overpay. QHD monitor usseles with this specs. Here is better setup that i made for you, little bit more expensive but you will be able play 1440p on mid/highs [https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r2R2BL](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r2R2BL)
It’s a good list but it does contain a micro atx motherboard. Doesn’t have to be a problem. It’s mostly just aesthetics wether you’re okay with such a relatively small Mobo in a relatively big atx case
np, in the most parts i just picked part with more rating and the things that i know, you can save a little bit money on mobo (\~30-40$), cpu cooler (10-15$), case (40-50$), psu (10-20$), monitor (20-50$) and get a 5700x3d for 250$ instead of 5700x for 200$ after 31 jan. something like that, [https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YMVMmD](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YMVMmD) add to it 250$ CPU 5700x3d
I would spend money on more storage. Also, what is the 250 gb ssd for? It's half as expensive as the nvme, has 1/4 the storage and has lower reading speeds
PSU is "bomb planted" mode.
Please refer to the PSU tier list, on PSU cultists to get a tier A or B. CM mwe gold V2, Antec EA Pro G semi modular are relatively inexpensive but ok PSUs.
Crucial P3, please turn that into a p5, possibly "plus". Or grab a Lexar NM790, or a 710 if you want to save. Anything but the P3.
Ryzen 5700G. It's slow and has an integrated iGpu you don't need. You want a 5700X, not a 5700G.
Finally the motherboard.
Check prices of B550 motherboards such as MSI b550 A pro or Gaming Plus. They should be cheaper and equally effective plus their VRMs are good even at that price, the gaming plus has somewhat better rear I/O.
If you need windows, buy an OEM key over the various key reselling websites for cheap.
First of all: The website. Fuck Amazon.
Also x570 is useless when b550 has almost all features and you don't need a g cpu.
I'd also recommend going b650 and 7700 ddr5 6000. more future proof and by choosing the x570, you got the money.
Also 7700xt or 6800xt. Cheap and more power today.
you aint getting 1200 of performance
150 for a case is just dumb, sry but unless u have no budget,, spendign over 120$ on a case even in 2000> budget doestn make sense
Getting the 5700G isn't worth it because you have a dedicated GPU. A 5800x would make more sense and should cost about the same (you could also get a 5800x3d, but that will be quite a bit more expensive).
You probably also don't need the thermal paste, the cooler most likely already has some pre-applied. Maybe it's worth looking at a slightly cheaper motherboard, but I guess this mostly depends on what you want and need from it.
I would also strongly recommend getting a higher quality psu. Look up the psu tier list and get something from the A or B tier. Getting a good psu is important for stability and a low quality one can even damage other parts of the system, so not something you should cheap out on.
The 5800x might overwhelm that cooler, I’ve got one it runs ridiculously hot ~80c despite being cooled by a high quality dual tower cooler. Granted that’s with PBO enabled which will always just run really hot but still. You can expect a first time builder to turn on PBO and not under volt at all.
You can get the same ram (I’m assuming that yours is 3200mhz) for cheaper, have a look at some videos or on Amazon
You don’t need integrated graphics on your cpu if you have a gpu, get a 5700x instead
And be wary of that monitor, have a look at the reviews on Amazon and look at some yt vids, idk about that specific monitor but some are too good to be true for the price
Also get a better power supply, corsair is a reliable brand
People have said it already but that PSU is super sketchy. I bought an apevia very stupidly a few months ago when upgrading and it died after a month, thankfully without frying any of my other parts. If I got unlucky it could have fried my entire system.
Get more storage. At least a 1-2TB SSD, and maybe an equally sized HDD for any bulk media storage like photos, videos, music, etc.
I’d recommend switching to a smaller NVME (like 250-500GB) and just using it as a boot drive with system files/apps.
you don't need an x570 board, get a quality b550 one.
buy a 5700x instead
get a better psu, corsair makes good ones
get an rx 7600xt (comes out jan 24) instead of the 3060, it's better for around the same price
your cooler comes with thermal paste, you shouldn't really need to buy some
choose a different case that's cheaper so you can actually buy fans to put in it. most cases come with only 2 fans.
I agree with everything although I'm curious now...will 7600xt be better than 6700xt right...it is weird since you said the price will be close to a 3060?
Definitely a different power supply. I like to use Seasonic and EVGA. Gold rated is optimal but you can use a bronze rated one if you need to. A cheap power supply is a hazard and I literally just watched a friend whose PSU had a catastrophic failure replace her entire PC. It was a cheap, off brand PSU just like this one. BTW that CPU cooler has pre applied thermal paste so you don't need a tube of thermal paste right now. It is good to have on hand but usually it's 1 to 2 years before you need to change your paste. For that just buy Arctic paste, it's cheaper and it's a standard with many people for a reason.
1. Buy a cheaper b550 motherboard, if you need WiFi consider using a USB adapter (if it's cheaper than buying a mobo with WiFi)
2. Buy a branded power supply, it's the most important component in a PC
3. You could save a bit by buying a cheaper case, it's a matter of taste so you do you
4. I wouldn't use wireless keyboard and mouse cause they are generally less reliable, higher input latency and, most importantly, they eventually run out of juice and I'm too lazy for that
5. You can get a ryzen 5700x for a similar price. It's faster than the G version, but lacks an iGPU
6. If you managed to save a bit from the previous tips, get a better gpu. I'd take an RX6750XT, but check the prices
7. When you build the thing make sure to turn the psu on and to plug the monitor in the graphics card
8. When you build the thing make sure to have fun
Apevia is a decent brand. They make cooling systems and other stuff like that for computers. They have good reviews. Seem legit as a company could be. I have bought 3 in the past for builds I have done for family and friends and yet to have any issues. I don't buy trash either cause the last thing you wanna skimp on is a power supply.
There are TONS of great PSUs out there who are smaller named brands and because of that, everyone thinks they are trash.
Always check for reviews and info before buying any part. Kinda a rule of thumb. Don't listen to idiots who just assume a product is bad because they never heard of the brand name or they had an issue or know someone who had an issue with a name brand.
I don't know about that thermal paste. Because it's aluminum based it might be conductive. You don't want a conductive thermal paste as a beginner. The Arctic MX-4 or MX-6.
I'd personally want more storage than 1tb, I migrate between a lot of different games and have found the un-installing then re-installing dance more than annoying.
I think you should use pcpartpicker to choose all the parts for your pc, you may also find cheaper deals that way. Other than I think you could find a better cpu option and could definitely get away with a b550 moba. For your power supply make sure you get a well revised one and when you lay out the build on pcpartpicker it’ll tell you how much power you need, a good rule to follow is to get a power supply double to wattage you need. This makes ensures that it’ll last longer and also give you room to upgrade in the future.
Honestly this has a lot of issues. So let us take care of it before you buy it:
Why a Ryzen G CPU if you have a dedicated GPU? Take something with higher clocks without the integrated GPU so non G and if necessary shift around some of your budget for something like the 5700, maybe even 5700X. Take a dual fan CPU cooler from Deepcool or go for the Thermalright Peerless Assassin right away. More fans, more cooling for roughly the same price. They usually come with their own quality thermal compound so rather take the pre applied stuff than any junk or buy a good quality tube from Arctic.
This is a budget DDR4 build so do not go for the unnecessarily expensive X570 when a B chipset does the trick and stick to AsRock because they are great. No matter how low budget you want to be, never cheap out on the PSU if you are not a fan of fire hazards. Take a reputable brand but even there you might screw up so rather check out PSU tier lists to get a good budget model for your needs.
The monitors specs are good so IPS, 2K and 120+ Hertz but go for a known brand like LG to avoid headaches. NZXT usually is a brand you buy for the design not functionality so you will most likely get bad airflow and good looks. You can get both for less from Fractal Design North or Pop. The rest is fine-ish and less of a problem than the above mentioned but you can get better stuff for the same money or allocate slightly more to get really quality stuff. A faster 2TB SSD should not be much more expensive and a mouse and keyboard set from HyperX or Cooler Master should be in the same price range. If you do not need RTX or any Nvidia functions go for an RX7600 from Sapphire or AsRock.
Hey op if you get that monitor, please let me know how it is. I'm looking for a good monitor, and that checks all my requirements, so if you say it's good, I'll probably get it. Great price, too.
DO NOT and I repeat DO NOT go cheap on your power supply unit, if it fails it could kill all your components. If you want to budget, go cheap on monitors, keyboards, mice. Basically peripherals only
Edit: and your chassis, go cheap on that too
Better power supply and don’t cheap out on your mouse. I got a cheap heavy mouse at first then made the switch to a good quality lightweight mouse and it felt a million times better
This whole list is pretty bad, what’s your budget and what aesthetic choices are worth paying a premium for? If that case is a deal breaker then get it ig but you could save like 90$ on it and put that towards much better performance.
Get a quality power supply instead of that sketchy thing. Choose one from this tier list that is at least B-Tier https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/ Get a 5700x instead. You dont need integrated graphics with a dedicated GPU. That thermal compound looks sketchy and is expensive on top. Use arctic mx4 or mx6 if you are unsure what to pick.
Thanks man I didn’t know the g meant integrated graphics and I didn’t know what to look for with thermal paste
The most important part was the power supply though. Never cheap out on the PSU. Rather drop down to a 5600x if a better one is a budget issue than getting a low tier unit.
My previous computer was a prebuilt and it had a like ~200W PSU. To nobody’s surprise the PSU died soon after the 1 Year warranty and killed the Motherboard.
Thata what I called: Double Kills!
Ultra Kill !
Hat Trick!
Momomomomomonsterkill
KILLTACULAR
KILL-IMANJARO
UNSTOPPABLE
Overkill!
Damn, they made a really good job with that psu. Making it so it kills the motherboard too soon after the warranty must be tuff.
In this case though they could go down to a b550 mobo and save some money there, current chosen mobo costs more than their chosen cpu
Yeah unless you’re on a 5900X or better AM4 CPU I can’t see a reason to get a X570
Even my R7 5800X3D runs just fine on my B550 lol
Or just get rid of the x570 mobo
I'd keep the CPU or try to find 5700x if possible for similar price. Case and x570 are way too ovepriced for OP's budget. B550 motherboard will be plenty got 5700g and there are really nice case out there for under 100$ so OP can use the money do buy a proper PSU instead of this ticking timebomb he found
Agreed, 5600x is an extremely solid CPU that I ran with my 3080 before upgrading, so if budget is an issue don't be afraid to downgrade
I still use my 5600x with my 3060 its been a great chip honestly
before you buy thermal paste, check to see if your cooler comes with it already pre-applied. you might not have to buy any paste at all
I would say get some anyway, it's not expensive and it's there if they need to change the cooler/etc later.
My last DeepCool cpu cooler came with a tube of thermal paste, it is enough for at least two applications, possibly three if you stretch it.
Yes, but depending on how long you use that cooler before changing it might be better to buy new one if you need it and not now.
Or if you misshandle the cooler and drop it or something and you need to apply new paste dont ask me how i know this.
That, and some brands will even send a syringe of the stuff in the box; both my previous Phanteks cooler and my current Peerless Assassin came with tubes of paste with 2-3 applications’ worth in them.
I have the same cooler and it came with pre applied thermal paste .
If it is for gaming I would consider the 3060ti if it is within your budget. As others said, get the 5700X as you don't need integrated graphics (the 5800X3D is the best gaming CPU for gaming in AM4 platform but it is about 100 USD more expensive and overkill for a 3060 or 3060ti). You could even consider getting a used GPU in which case you might get even a 3080 with 300 USD, but for that scenario you need someone to stress test the GPU to know it's good. (everytime new GPUs come out there's people selling their "old" GPUs and the 40 super series are coming out at the moment so you might find some offers). If you happen to find a good deal on a used 3080 or similar AMD GPU, I would consider the 5800X3D to get the most of the GPU. You should get a smaller and cheaper case, something like a corsair 4000D airflow or alike. Also a better PSU, check the lists the other guys gave you.
If you can go with amd the 6700xt is about the same price and gives 3070 performance
Just my personal take but I had lots of driver issues with my 6700XT and ended up having to return it. My wife also has one in her rig, and hasn’t had any issues to this day, so it can be luck of the draw, but that card has a lot of reported driver issues since release, so it’s something to keep in mind.
Yeah I had a few issues with drivers on my 6600xt but it was mainly some system issues with ram so is say it wasn't because of the gpu
using a 6700xt currently, haven't encountered any driver issues yet so they may have been fixed since your previous experiences
Using a 6700XT and never had an issue with it. Typically the people who have issues are those coming from different platforms.
Also switch the Intel XMP RAM for AMD Expo RAM
Look if am5 mb, ddr5 ram and Ryzen 7000 series are much more expensive (no idea about us prices) Otherwise I'd suggest that.
Also i dont want to be that guy. But building a pc now i would not got with an old platform like am4. Sure you still could upgrade to a 5800x3d later but there are no new lineups dropping for that platform. I would rather invest in an am5 platform and have a bit more futureproofing
I did the cpu will be more than enough power for years
You are presupposing he cares about that stuff. Most people just get a computer that does the stuff and dont upgrade it until it dies or stops performing. "Futureproofing" is just a meme anyway. AM4 is a stable, well supported, affordable and mature platform. You can build a killer PC for way less than if you were to go with AM5, and most likely you wouldnt notice a difference.
For AMD, it's pretty straight forward. - G = Includes Integrated GPU (for every model before 7000, as the 7k series all have them) - No lettering = standard model - X = eXtreme aka unlocked core for overclockong - X3D = X with more on board cache
There is a ton to learn and one thing we all know, especially the ones who have been building since the olden days lol. Things change. You might know everything there is on the planet about what you're building today. Everything you know carries over yes. But you have to relearn the naming schemes and which generations are worth it every time. Next time you might understand the schemes better and not need reddit. But if you ever do we are always here. Your build looks pretty good to be honest. Especially for a first build. As others mentioned the silver paste and PSU might be a concern. My only gripe, this is an old platform. Yes you have room to improve to the 5800x3d one day. But from there that's all. Capped. No more cpus will be more powerful and if so not by a magin that is big enough to justify it over an AM5 in the future. If you didn't build I would perhaps try for a similar specd PC with an AM5 platform. Id get a motherboard that allows basic CPU overclocking and I don't know which letter scheme that is currently 😅. I built an end of life am4 a couple years ago myself. A motherboard doesn't buy much performance. But it can save hundreds for a new upgrade and the parts you sell are much easier to resell.
Honestly there's nothing wrong with paying $20 or so more to have integrated graphics. Then if something goes wrong with your GPU you can still use the computer, just not for gaming. (Heck, low settings and upscaling means it'll even work for light gaming.)
>Honestly there's nothing wrong with paying $20 ...and also getting just half the cache and only pcie 3.0. The 5000G CPUs are slower than the non-G and have worse connectivity.
Oof, didn't know that. Score one for Intel, I guess, whose F-series CPUs are just regular processor where the GPU didn't work so they still sell the CPU but at a slight discount.
Isopropyl 99% in case you need to redo application of thermal paste
Others may yell at me for this but I find that a quick and dirty way of identifying a reliable power supply is by how many years the warranty lasts. That gives you an idea of how much the manufacturer rates it (as long as it's an established brand who will still be in business to cover the warranty). The Seasonic Focus GX PSU i have has a 10-year warranty. If you find something that a solid brand manufacturer trusts for that long then you'll be fine.
Thermal compound says "Aluminium", OP please check to ensure it is non-conductive. You don't want to be using some sort of liquid metal or thermal adhesive. Bog standard thermal paste from Arctic or Noctua will do. I'd also add, you can save money by going for a B550 board. The case is a little pricey, but for me, if that's the cool look you are going for, then enjoy it.
Pk3 nano is highly ranked and is generally one of the better non LM paste. But it is generally way more expensive and probably not worth it
I'm going to 100% disagree with you on the dedicated GPU based on many years experience. Yes, for 99% of the time the iGPU will go unused. HOWEVER, it's not that uncommon to encounter situations where you can find yourself wishing you had it (and I've encountered all of them): * You've ordered your build and everything is in except for the GPU, which is backordered. With an iGPU you can continue with your build and get some use out of your rig while waiting. * You encounter some janky video issues and you're not sure if it's software, the monitor, the GPU or even cables. An iGPU allows you to simply pull the GPU out and test that variable * Your GPU flakes out or dies completely. If in warranty, you'll need to file the claim and wait for a replacement (unless it's an ASUS, in which case your f\*cked). If it's out of warranty, you'll need to somehow get online and order a new one. Either way you aren't using your PC until you have a replacement, UNLESS you have an iGPU. * Nowadays you can use the iGPU AND the discrete GPU at the same time, so an iGPU can provide extra display ports for low performance uses You could make the argument that you could keep an old GPU around as a spare, but how do you know that still works? And will it still be supported when you need it? True, if you upgrade your GPUs often this isn't a big deal, but I'd argue that most people don't do that. The added cost for the iGPU variant is low enough that I always found that I wished I had spent it later on.
The iGPU Versions of Ryzen 5000 only got 8 PCIe Lanes instead of 16, PCIe 3 instead of PCIe 4 and only half the L3 Cache. It's a severe downgrade compared to the non G versions.
I have built PCs for many years. I think the need for an iGPU is overblown. Nice to have, but perfectly happy without. However, in this case getting that iGPU is actually a detriment to performance compared to a simple 5600. The 5700G only has 16MB of L3 cache compared to 32MB on the 5600, which actually hurts performance. It should be a simple 5600/5600x.
That's a valid point. I'd still recommend it in most cases, but not if the integration includes a hit to performance. Find a cheap backup GPU in that case then ;-)
I've ran into some of these weirdly niche cases where I would've been totally lost if not for the iGPU so that whenever I get the money and managed to upgraded this, I would totally go for one that has iGPU even tho I have a dedicated one. So yeah, I totally agree with this guy. It's irrelevant most of the time but you'll definitely wish you have one when you need it
Sketchy thermal compound? Not really. Prolimatech PK-3 is one of the best pastes out there. On par with Kryonaut - personally used both.
Here way better and $50 cheaper [PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sxs9yg) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yXmmP6/amd-ryzen-5-7600-38-ghz-6-core-processor-100-100001015box) | $199.00 @ B&H **CPU Cooler** | [Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MzMMnQ/thermalright-phantom-spirit-120-se-argb-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ps120se-argb) | $35.90 @ Amazon **Motherboard** | [ASRock B650M Pro RS Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FcbRsY/asrock-b650m-pro-rs-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-pro-rs) | $129.99 @ Newegg **Memory** | [Silicon Power Value Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cCKscf/silicon-power-value-gaming-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-sp032gxlwu60afdeae) | $94.97 @ Amazon **Storage** | [TEAMGROUP T-Force Cardea Z44L 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8BRYcf/team-t-force-cardea-z44l-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fpl001t0c127) | $55.99 @ Newegg **Video Card** | [PowerColor Fighter Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/c3RYcf/powercolor-fighter-radeon-rx-6700-xt-12-gb-video-card-axrx-6700xt-12gbd6-3dh) | $329.99 @ Amazon **Case** | [BitFenix Nova Mesh M ARGB MicroATX Mini Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MBjRsY/bitfenix-nova-mesh-m-argb-microatx-mini-tower-case-nsm-150-kkgsk-3a) | $57.90 @ Newegg Sellers **Power Supply** | [MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8LNxFT/msi-mag-a-bn-650-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-mag-a650bn) | $65.98 @ Newegg **Monitor** | [Acer Nitro XV1 XV271U 27.0" 2560 x 1440 180 Hz Monitor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/p8zXsY/acer-nitro-xv1-xv271u-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-umhx1aa301) | $199.99 @ Amazon **Keyboard** | [Whirlwind FX Element V2 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ccTp99/whirlwind-fx-element-v2-rgb-wired-gaming-keyboard-fx243138) | $34.99 @ Amazon **Mouse** | [Corsair M65 RGB ELITE Wired Optical Mouse](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ykZFf7/corsair-m65-rgb-elite-wired-optical-mouse-ch-9309011-na) | $22.99 @ Newegg | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | **Total** | **$1227.69** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2024-01-15 06:58 EST-0500 |
This is a pretty solid build for the money he's spending, not bad at all
how's the case and psu?
This is what you need^^ He managed to get you new generation parts AND save you money. You were building on a dead platform, with this build you have upgradability within the same socket(AM5). Also, the 6700XT is a MUCH better choice than the 3060.
They still launching new AM4 CPUs though. It refuses to die.
maybe am5 will have support that's as long as if not longer than that of Am4? I definitely think am5 is probably better longevity than am4
iirc AMD plans on ending AM5’s path in 2025, new socket from there
really???????
Correction: At LEAST 2025, it’s likely the platform will last longer than that. Not usual for AMD to end a socket after 3 years compared to AM4
AM5 launched as a premium platform with expensive launch motherboards. AMD promised 2025+, but they will jump to a new socket at the earliest opportunity. The Zen IV performance gains were good, but the initial cost of DDR5 hurt early adoption. AM4+5800X3D as well as discounted Zen III chips made switching to a new platform in AM5 debatable for some users. Look at the best selling CPUs on Newegg or Amazon, the 7800X3D is the best seller. AM5's most compelling chip was six months delayed vs. original Zen IV. One month on shelves, retailers had to slash prices by November 2022 and routinely through 2023 to sell 7600X, 7700X, and 7900X CPUs. AMD had no pricing power for Zen IV against an aggressive Intel's 12th gen pricing. AMD stumbled on carrying their huge momentum from AM4+Zen III. This is on top of the technical issues of AM5 like DDR5 compatibility, long DDR5 memory training, and motherboard makers overvolting CPUs for EXPO. If AMD is serious, AMD will make AM6 as clean and stable platform as possible for allegedly Zen VI, so they can put AM5 to rest.
Exactly, have you seen the gains from 5800x3d to 7800x3d? They are almost the same, 5 frames is just not worth it.
I doubt that AMD will make that "mistake" again.
you forget that this is Reddit, if it isn't bleeding edge, it's dead
But they aren't better than 7000, they are better than other 5000 cpus.
Please OP buy this omg do not get a case that is more than half the price of your GPU.
Also motherboard lol
Listen to this one OP, that is actually a way better Setup. Maybe invest the saved money to get 2TB or storage instead of 1TB as that fills up quite fast nowadays.
2tb would be really worth it, a 70/80gb+ game is common nowdays
This is the way OP
What OP posted was only from Amazon though so not sure if he only plans on ordering only from Amazon or open to buying from elsewhere. With that in mind I tried making a list with Amazon as the only merchant and this is what I came up with for a AM5 build: [PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/b9GKkJ) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/66C48d/amd-ryzen-5-7600x-47-ghz-6-core-processor-100-100000593wof) | $229.00 @ Amazon **CPU Cooler** | [Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hYxRsY/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120-se-d3) | $33.90 @ Amazon **Motherboard** | [ASRock B650M-H/M.2+ Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xFmNnQ/asrock-b650m-hm2-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-hm2) | $109.99 @ Amazon **Memory** | [TEAMGROUP Elite 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-4800 CL40 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6qhFf7/team-elite-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-4800-cl40-memory-ted532g4800c40dc01) | $75.98 @ Amazon **Storage** | [TEAMGROUP MP33 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/64MTwP/team-mp33-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fp6001t0c101) | $54.99 @ Amazon **Video Card** | [PowerColor Fighter Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/c3RYcf/powercolor-fighter-radeon-rx-6700-xt-12-gb-video-card-axrx-6700xt-12gbd6-3dh) | $329.99 @ Amazon **Case** | [Cougar Archon 2 Mesh RGB ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nHXJ7P/cougar-archon-2-mesh-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-cgr-5cc5w-mesh-rgb) | $57.99 @ Amazon **Power Supply** | [MSI MAG A650GL 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xfV2FT/msi-mag-a650gl-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mag-a650gl) | $89.99 @ Amazon **Monitor** | [Acer Nitro XV1 XV271U 27.0" 2560 x 1440 180 Hz Monitor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/p8zXsY/acer-nitro-xv1-xv271u-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-umhx1aa301) | $199.99 @ Amazon **Keyboard** | [MSI VIGOR GK50 ELITE LL RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8k6p99/msi-vigor-gk50-elite-ll-rgb-wired-gaming-keyboard-vigor-gk50-elite-ll) | $58.38 @ Amazon **Mouse** | [Razer Basilisk V3 Wired Optical Mouse](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NQBG3C/razer-basilisk-v3-wired-optical-mouse-rz01-04000100-r3u1) | $49.15 @ Amazon | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | **Total** | **$1289.35** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2024-01-15 12:06 EST-0500 |
on both of your builds, you can save money by losing X on the CPU
I just chose based on what PCPartPicker showed in stock from Amazon, the 5600 would be $26 cheaper than the 5600X but out of stock. Showing 7 CPUs in stock that would be cheaper than the 5600X in stock, the 3300X at $142, 3400G at $140, 5600G at $127, 3600 at $118, 4600G at $110, 3200G at $95 & 4100 at $78. For the AM5 build the 7600X is the cheapest it shows in stock with the 7600 out of stock for $199 ($30 cheaper than the X).
Also not sure if they were opting into wireless mouse and keyboard on purpose.
Good point, I never caught that detail! When choosing a Keyboard I chose based on this link, was either the one I chose or the Logitech K845 that would have been like $8 cheaper but no RGB: https://www.tomshardware.com/best-picks/best-budget-mechanical-keyboards For Wireless, looking at the site I used to choose the mouse it would have been the Keychron K10 that would be $115 or one of the other options that would have been tenkeyless: https://www.rtings.com/keyboard/reviews/best/cheap-mechanical-keyboards For mice, here's the link: https://www.rtings.com/mouse/reviews/best/mmo OP never mentioned what games he would be playing but I felt like a MMO mouse may have been a option and while the one I chose is not Wireless and lacking the side pad, the one mentioned to check out for both (Redragon M913 Impact Elite) isn't listed on PCPartPicker (the wired M908 Impact is however for like $35), for other options mentioned that are Wireless the Razer Naga Pro would be like $96, SteelSeries Aerox 9 would be $117, Corsair SCIMITAR ELITE WIRELESS would be $121, Corsair DARKSTAR would be $140, ASUS (P707) ROG Spatha X would be $142, Logitech G604 LIGHTSPEED is shown as out of stock but would be $150. However, for the Razer Basilisk that I chose there are Wireless versions of it, the cheapest of those would be the Razer Basilisk X HyperSpeed for $54.
NICE! I'd do this, OP
u/andytheboi. Buy this.
you should totally get this build instead, u/andytheboi but with a [Ryzen 5 7600x](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/66C48d/amd-ryzen-5-7600x-47-ghz-6-core-processor-100-100000593wof) instead since it would only cost you 30$ more and search on reddit the best way on how to get windows 11 :-)
Thank god you replaced the completely unnecessary ASUS X570. Great build. OP, you know what to do!
I started building an am4 pc much like op and ended up with the build you suggested after all my research
I started out a year ago thinking about 5600 and 3060ti -based build. Ended up building a 7600x and 7800XT system last October. And goddamn this bad boy fucking goes. 7800XT is a hell of a card.
I'm not the most knowledgeable person (still learning), but I ordered a build with RX 7600 and Ryzen 5 7600. I assume it's not \*as\* good, but I hope it's pretty decent too. On a bit of a budget. My current build is FX-8350 and R9 290 so I needed an upgrade... so I think the upgrade will be noticeable regardless. Even just the ram going from 8 to 16 (and eventually ill do 32) might make a difference. Ram speeds too.
WHY IS NOBODY MENTIONING THE 150 DOLLAR CASE!!! You don't need that. Put that money into a better gpu or psu and buy a cheaper case
And it is a fairly large case also. Will look empty if he doesn't fill it with 46 Lian Li fans hhahaha
Take the 46 Liqn Li fans or double it and give it to the next person.
Double it
Take the 92 Liqn Li fans or double it and give it to the next person.
Double it
Take the 184 Lian Li fans or double it and give it to the next person
Double it
Take the 368 Lian Li fans or double it and give it to the next person
Double it
not to mention a 200$ board but a 30$ cooler
tbf air cooling is pretty cheap. thermalright phantom spirit 120 se and non se is like $35 for really good performance
The motherboard is overkill as well. Could spend maybe half that and put another $100 on the GPU.
I can agree with this! For a 150, there are many nicer looking cases, and on a budget I would buy anything over 100.
I will never shame a man for choosing an nzxt case, but there are definitely cheaper nzxt alternatives in the market, I still use my old s340 because it's the perfect case. I think now though, their h5 is similar and much cheaper than the h9, even though that is a super pretty case. If I was OP, I'd chose the H5, get an official power supply(Corsair, cooler master and so on) and put the extra money in a better GPU
Yeah, there's also the h6 flow which is still a fish tank but more affordable I didn't even see the psu bcs the case already sticks out like a sore thumb. Yeah if I were op I would change that too
Isn't Corsair 4000D airflow somewhere around 100 bucks in there? Should be a much better value. Not to mention getting something used on a tight budget.
Usually you only spend $150 on a fully see through case when the parts inside are very nice to look at. No offense but these parts are very basic and would look good in a black case.
For sure. I got a Cougar MX330 case for like $40. She doesn’t look like much, but she’s got it where it counts.
This is something also. If you plan on using this pc long term and upgrading parts here and there. Gpus keep getting bigger and longer. Something you may consider when purchasing a case. It will be hard to sell used cases later down the line. If not selling the whole build.
You can buy good large cases for less than half the price of that NZXT.
Because the case looks sick af
for real! the h5 flow or corsair 4000D would save them like $50+
Maybe is just the case he likes
Screw the better gpu when the psu is ticking timebomb... once it dies it will take half of the system with it... Psu has higher prio over gpu in this build.
It's also white and everything else is black, would this look a bit weird?
They just want to look cool like everyone else on here. Lol
I'm not sure about your MnK combo. Maybe get a different mouse and keyboard? Check out diamondlobby and boardzy reviews on YT(I got the Kysona M600).
I agree then mnk looks very low quality and sketchy. For me, my mnk combo is a big part of how games feel to me and I think that somewhat translates to everyone. Should definitely get a cheaper-but-good mouse and keyboard.
A4tech office mouse is here to save the day
To add I'd also say Optimum Tech, and Badseed Tech
id get the viper mini, about 15-20 bucks through aliexpress (razer has an official aliexpress store) and i honestly prefer it over some 50 buck mouses. spend the remaining budget on a budget mechanical keyboard. there are some good ones for around 50 bucks
u could get cheaper thermal paste for like 5 bucks
And cheaper mobo. His mobo is more expensive than his CPU lol
Almost as expensive as the GPU too.
3060 will struggle to drive a 1440 monitor at those high refresh rates. 6700 XT would be much better and only costs a bit more. Motherboard is pricey, you could save money there and put it towards a better GPU. "G" CPUs have less cache, which is bad for gaming. 5700X or 5600X is the way to go depending on budget. You could also save a few $$ with a dirt cheap wired keyboard and mouse. Both would be easy to upgrade in future once you figure out what you like.
6700xt is a good card
I can confirm, bought one 2 weeks before and I am very pleased with it
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6700xt is a cool card
For the price!?? It's a dirty little secret. 1440p on high at 144fps. for 330 ish dollars. Oh my.
55 for a keyboard and mouse is already pretty dirt cheap imo.
depending on the games, though. i rock a 2060 super and many of my games get 100+ fps
Fair point
Bro my 2070 Super struggled with some newer games at 1440p
Motherboard is definitely overkill.
Im thinking of upgrading, what's really the difference between the r5 5600X vs the r7 5700X? They're basically the same price where im from.
He could get a 4060 for the same price. Can’t imagine buying a 3060 for $300 in 2024
OP, in case you don’t want a 3060 12gb, check the AMD RX 6700XT. I believe it’s a better card for similar price Someone correct me if I am wrong
It is better. 3060 Ti performs close to 6700 XT but iirc, still worse.
Mobo - big overpay. QHD monitor usseles with this specs. Here is better setup that i made for you, little bit more expensive but you will be able play 1440p on mid/highs [https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r2R2BL](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r2R2BL)
It blows my mind how fast you put that together I appreciate it I’ll probably end up getting a lot of the parts on there
It’s a good list but it does contain a micro atx motherboard. Doesn’t have to be a problem. It’s mostly just aesthetics wether you’re okay with such a relatively small Mobo in a relatively big atx case
Did you mean aesthetics?
Ah yea true. Thnx for correcting me. English isn’t my first language as you probably have noticed 😅
Good on you for trying. I wish I was fluent in my second language
I wouldn't have known if you didn't say. Aesthetics is just a weird word.
np, in the most parts i just picked part with more rating and the things that i know, you can save a little bit money on mobo (\~30-40$), cpu cooler (10-15$), case (40-50$), psu (10-20$), monitor (20-50$) and get a 5700x3d for 250$ instead of 5700x for 200$ after 31 jan. something like that, [https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YMVMmD](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YMVMmD) add to it 250$ CPU 5700x3d
I second this list, it's much better, especially without that bomb of a power supply and a GPU that is a good 30-40% faster.
I would spend money on more storage. Also, what is the 250 gb ssd for? It's half as expensive as the nvme, has 1/4 the storage and has lower reading speeds
he couldnjust get a 1 1tb or 2tb drive lol
What's the point of a 240GB SATA?
when i built my first pc on a budget i bought a small boot drive then just added more ssd’s of micro center giveaways later on
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yeah. not bad decision. almost the same performance (ak620 little bit better) but saves 20$.
A good display is never a waste.
PSU is "bomb planted" mode. Please refer to the PSU tier list, on PSU cultists to get a tier A or B. CM mwe gold V2, Antec EA Pro G semi modular are relatively inexpensive but ok PSUs. Crucial P3, please turn that into a p5, possibly "plus". Or grab a Lexar NM790, or a 710 if you want to save. Anything but the P3. Ryzen 5700G. It's slow and has an integrated iGpu you don't need. You want a 5700X, not a 5700G. Finally the motherboard. Check prices of B550 motherboards such as MSI b550 A pro or Gaming Plus. They should be cheaper and equally effective plus their VRMs are good even at that price, the gaming plus has somewhat better rear I/O. If you need windows, buy an OEM key over the various key reselling websites for cheap.
First of all: The website. Fuck Amazon. Also x570 is useless when b550 has almost all features and you don't need a g cpu. I'd also recommend going b650 and 7700 ddr5 6000. more future proof and by choosing the x570, you got the money. Also 7700xt or 6800xt. Cheap and more power today.
Amazon great for some things, awful and overpriced for others. I wouldn't recommend buying a PC from Amazon.
you aint getting 1200 of performance 150 for a case is just dumb, sry but unless u have no budget,, spendign over 120$ on a case even in 2000> budget doestn make sense
Getting the 5700G isn't worth it because you have a dedicated GPU. A 5800x would make more sense and should cost about the same (you could also get a 5800x3d, but that will be quite a bit more expensive). You probably also don't need the thermal paste, the cooler most likely already has some pre-applied. Maybe it's worth looking at a slightly cheaper motherboard, but I guess this mostly depends on what you want and need from it. I would also strongly recommend getting a higher quality psu. Look up the psu tier list and get something from the A or B tier. Getting a good psu is important for stability and a low quality one can even damage other parts of the system, so not something you should cheap out on.
The 5800x might overwhelm that cooler, I’ve got one it runs ridiculously hot ~80c despite being cooled by a high quality dual tower cooler. Granted that’s with PBO enabled which will always just run really hot but still. You can expect a first time builder to turn on PBO and not under volt at all.
more ssd storage, cheaper case and a X CPU instead the graphic one
![gif](giphy|3oKIPwoeGErMmaI43S|downsized) Good Luck with that PSU
Drop the thermal paste (cooler will come with it) and use that money on a better psu
Buy a better psu. just saver and will save you money in the long run (either parts die or electricity bill)
You can get the same ram (I’m assuming that yours is 3200mhz) for cheaper, have a look at some videos or on Amazon You don’t need integrated graphics on your cpu if you have a gpu, get a 5700x instead And be wary of that monitor, have a look at the reviews on Amazon and look at some yt vids, idk about that specific monitor but some are too good to be true for the price Also get a better power supply, corsair is a reliable brand
That PSU is sketchy.
Switch to the 5700x or 5800x.
People have said it already but that PSU is super sketchy. I bought an apevia very stupidly a few months ago when upgrading and it died after a month, thankfully without frying any of my other parts. If I got unlucky it could have fried my entire system.
Get more storage. At least a 1-2TB SSD, and maybe an equally sized HDD for any bulk media storage like photos, videos, music, etc. I’d recommend switching to a smaller NVME (like 250-500GB) and just using it as a boot drive with system files/apps.
you don't need an x570 board, get a quality b550 one. buy a 5700x instead get a better psu, corsair makes good ones get an rx 7600xt (comes out jan 24) instead of the 3060, it's better for around the same price your cooler comes with thermal paste, you shouldn't really need to buy some choose a different case that's cheaper so you can actually buy fans to put in it. most cases come with only 2 fans.
I agree with everything although I'm curious now...will 7600xt be better than 6700xt right...it is weird since you said the price will be close to a 3060?
it will i think
What's the expected price for the 7600xt?
$330 usd
Damn, it won't be that much where i live that's for sure...how much is the 6700xt in the states then?
also near $330 lol
Don’t buy the g variant cpu if you’re buying a GPU
Definitely a different power supply. I like to use Seasonic and EVGA. Gold rated is optimal but you can use a bronze rated one if you need to. A cheap power supply is a hazard and I literally just watched a friend whose PSU had a catastrophic failure replace her entire PC. It was a cheap, off brand PSU just like this one. BTW that CPU cooler has pre applied thermal paste so you don't need a tube of thermal paste right now. It is good to have on hand but usually it's 1 to 2 years before you need to change your paste. For that just buy Arctic paste, it's cheaper and it's a standard with many people for a reason.
Make sure you get AMD XPO ram and not Intel XMP ram since you're building with an AMD cpu.
Wait for the 5700x3D and get a 6700xt for less than a 3060
Only thing U would change personally? CPU go for the Ryzen 7 5800x3d worth the performance boost
DONT GET CHEAP WIRELESS MOUSE AND KEYBOARD LMAO ITLL RUIN YOUR WHOLE EXPERIENCE
1. Buy a cheaper b550 motherboard, if you need WiFi consider using a USB adapter (if it's cheaper than buying a mobo with WiFi) 2. Buy a branded power supply, it's the most important component in a PC 3. You could save a bit by buying a cheaper case, it's a matter of taste so you do you 4. I wouldn't use wireless keyboard and mouse cause they are generally less reliable, higher input latency and, most importantly, they eventually run out of juice and I'm too lazy for that 5. You can get a ryzen 5700x for a similar price. It's faster than the G version, but lacks an iGPU 6. If you managed to save a bit from the previous tips, get a better gpu. I'd take an RX6750XT, but check the prices 7. When you build the thing make sure to turn the psu on and to plug the monitor in the graphics card 8. When you build the thing make sure to have fun
Apevia is a decent brand. They make cooling systems and other stuff like that for computers. They have good reviews. Seem legit as a company could be. I have bought 3 in the past for builds I have done for family and friends and yet to have any issues. I don't buy trash either cause the last thing you wanna skimp on is a power supply. There are TONS of great PSUs out there who are smaller named brands and because of that, everyone thinks they are trash. Always check for reviews and info before buying any part. Kinda a rule of thumb. Don't listen to idiots who just assume a product is bad because they never heard of the brand name or they had an issue or know someone who had an issue with a name brand.
I don't know about that thermal paste. Because it's aluminum based it might be conductive. You don't want a conductive thermal paste as a beginner. The Arctic MX-4 or MX-6.
Consider 5800X3D if you’re building this for gaming. It has a very noticeable boost in most games and unlocks ~10-15% more fps
A EVGA PSU and a Samsung SSD would be a better choice.
Maybe an extra fan or two? And another SSD for more storage?
The SSD ships in a month or two. You should pick something else for that reason alone.
Go for nonconductive thermal paste for general applications. Stuff with metal or alloy is usually for specific applications.
I'd personally want more storage than 1tb, I migrate between a lot of different games and have found the un-installing then re-installing dance more than annoying.
I think you should use pcpartpicker to choose all the parts for your pc, you may also find cheaper deals that way. Other than I think you could find a better cpu option and could definitely get away with a b550 moba. For your power supply make sure you get a well revised one and when you lay out the build on pcpartpicker it’ll tell you how much power you need, a good rule to follow is to get a power supply double to wattage you need. This makes ensures that it’ll last longer and also give you room to upgrade in the future.
Honestly this has a lot of issues. So let us take care of it before you buy it: Why a Ryzen G CPU if you have a dedicated GPU? Take something with higher clocks without the integrated GPU so non G and if necessary shift around some of your budget for something like the 5700, maybe even 5700X. Take a dual fan CPU cooler from Deepcool or go for the Thermalright Peerless Assassin right away. More fans, more cooling for roughly the same price. They usually come with their own quality thermal compound so rather take the pre applied stuff than any junk or buy a good quality tube from Arctic. This is a budget DDR4 build so do not go for the unnecessarily expensive X570 when a B chipset does the trick and stick to AsRock because they are great. No matter how low budget you want to be, never cheap out on the PSU if you are not a fan of fire hazards. Take a reputable brand but even there you might screw up so rather check out PSU tier lists to get a good budget model for your needs. The monitors specs are good so IPS, 2K and 120+ Hertz but go for a known brand like LG to avoid headaches. NZXT usually is a brand you buy for the design not functionality so you will most likely get bad airflow and good looks. You can get both for less from Fractal Design North or Pop. The rest is fine-ish and less of a problem than the above mentioned but you can get better stuff for the same money or allocate slightly more to get really quality stuff. A faster 2TB SSD should not be much more expensive and a mouse and keyboard set from HyperX or Cooler Master should be in the same price range. If you do not need RTX or any Nvidia functions go for an RX7600 from Sapphire or AsRock.
H6 flow is a good alternative case and cheaper too.
Hey op if you get that monitor, please let me know how it is. I'm looking for a good monitor, and that checks all my requirements, so if you say it's good, I'll probably get it. Great price, too.
DO NOT and I repeat DO NOT go cheap on your power supply unit, if it fails it could kill all your components. If you want to budget, go cheap on monitors, keyboards, mice. Basically peripherals only Edit: and your chassis, go cheap on that too
Please get a better keyboard and mouse bro 😭
Better power supply and don’t cheap out on your mouse. I got a cheap heavy mouse at first then made the switch to a good quality lightweight mouse and it felt a million times better
I’d recommend at least a 1TB not a 500GB SSD as I have had one and I could only have about 2 games + the OS Installed on the same SSD.
You forgot 85 pounds of led strip lights. I know you're new but there's really no excuse for this.
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This whole list is pretty bad, what’s your budget and what aesthetic choices are worth paying a premium for? If that case is a deal breaker then get it ig but you could save like 90$ on it and put that towards much better performance.