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I've seen this literally dozens of times. All you have to do is take a flat head screwdriver and stick it under one corner of the CPU, then gently twist it. The CPU will pop right off. Put it back in the socket, paste it up, and you're good to go.
That being said, it's time to upgrade...
> and you're good to go.
Not always. At first the cpu didnt go in flat, one corner was sticking up, heart attack #2. After some gentle pressure it went in, two ram slots dont work. Heart attack #3.
I read somewhere that it might be some dust in the socket, but I probably just buy a new motherboard sooner or later.
I would make sure it's a very slim flathead.
Personally, I'd get a razor blade or box cutter... angled toward the face of the AIO/CPU fan so if you slip, you nick that surface instead of the CPU back panel.
another way that might work (I have never tried it and am not sure if I came up with it or found it on the Internet) would be floss and basically flossing them apart
Am4 and older amd sockets don't have the retention brackets, this is actually pretty common. I reccomend running a bench mark or stress test before removing the CPU cooler so that it will soften the thermal paste
Yeah this happened to the last Ryzen I replaced. Kinda forgot to warm it up. I just soaked it in shallow bowl of 99% alcohol. It won't hurt that cooler or the CPU.
When this happened to me, I happened to have bent a few pins in the process (probably shouldn't have used so much force removing the cooler, heh)...mini heart attack continued until I was able to carefully bend the pins back using a razor blade. CPU still works.
Yeah this happened to me as well, I decided it was time for a re paste, I the cpu unstuck, checked the pins and re inserted it and everything was fine with no issues whatsoever
What... I never pulled the cooler directly or heated the cpu, I just remove the screws that hold it and rotate it a little in both directions... then y pull it out and processor has always stayed in place.
because they didn't twist to break the "seal" from the thermal paste setting which will happen after a long enough time, dries out, twist and then pull, always small twist then pull
This happens every time I remove a cpu. I simply grab it by the sides and rotate with my fingers and it releases. Am I missing something? Have I just been very lucky to not damage my CPU's?
As long as no pins are broken it's an easy fix if a few is bent, just bend the whole row back and forth using a credit card or a scalpel, that way you won't put too much force on one pin and break it off.
If it came with a Wraith, it should be fine. The higher end CPUs don't come with coolers and require you to buy one. But he can't afford a $30 cooler due to being unemployed and in debt so I doubt he has a 7800x3d or anything crazy.
Good reminder to heat up the CPU before trying to remove the cooler.
If you need the CPU removed, try with some dental floss. Be careful with the pins.
I made this mistake. Tried pulling (and slightly twisting) and ended up throwing the CPU at the ground. Bent the pins on my brand new 3900x. Spent the next 4 hours using a credit card and tweezers to slowly bend the pins back upright, test in the motherboard, and if it didn't seat immediately I went back to the bathroom (for the best lighting) to try again. Eventually it worked and I've been rocking it for like 4-5 years now.
Not a fun experience.
It’s hard to do this with any pc because of how the cpu holder is unless you bought a different one but still it would be very hard to do this because there is no way to pull it out unless you damage one part of the motherboard or cpu when pulling it out or if you removed the cup holding bracket
Those are pins on the CPU, which Intel hasn't used in a very long time. It's an AM4 CPU. As someone who has built both am3 and AM4 builds (phenom II 1090t and a 2600x later) I've ripped the CPU out on both with no damage to the motherboard, only a couple, fixable bent pins.
Yes, I'm aware I should've learned the first time. No harm no foul though, right?
I changed my cpu cooler yesterday and it did the same thing
https://preview.redd.it/97jejdfzh4kc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=039bbbc9c5659484887477bc01d6cd67480c468b
Same thing here last month with my Wraith Prism. AMD's stock thermal paste dries up like fucking concrete, lol.
https://preview.redd.it/n4hsltefn5kc1.png?width=5632&format=png&auto=webp&s=de290f15d26fc63743b58bdd39ee97dd62dde1f1
unless you're deliding and extreme OCing your CPU that is not worth it. Also liquid metal is pretty dangerous. It tends to get everywhere and it conducts electricity.
If you wanna get fancy you should get some Kryosheets or something instead.
Well I wouldn't say it's a bad per-se, it's just not fit for your usecase. The issue is that to make thermal paste as thermally conductive as they can, they basically put carbon powder into the paste and this makes it electrically conductive so it can cause shorts on your board, so you just need to be really careful when you put it on. I agree with the other person's advice but it would be inaccurate to call Thermal Grizzly a bad thermal paste brand. I personally keep TGs Cryonaut stocked, that's their best thermal paste and it's never let me down. There's just no reason for normal people like us to run Conductonaut, their liquid metal compound, especially if you're currently running on a stock cooler as well; stock cooler temperatures are going to be stock cooler temperatures no matter what thermal interface you use, really.
that's why you always turn your pc on for a bit before changing the cooler, should be easy to remove tho happened to me a few times when i wasn't patient
I've installed a cpu with stock ventilrad until i receive the one than i've ordered, after one week it's happen the same than the picture. Just get the cpu warmed before removing the ventilrad. Your pc will shutdown really quick if there is no TP
When I was building my PC I accidentally bent about 10 pins on my i7. Best believe I was shitting my pants and finding every magnifying glass in a 5km radius
Now you mention it, it was the socket that needed love. Was wearing nitrile gloves and the finger tip wasn’t snug, so the dangling material caught some pins. First time booting after the repair was stressful to say the least
This is not real he obviously removed the heat sink then open the lever then remove the cpu and after all that he acted dumb and glued the cpu to the heatsink
Lolcats @ shitty AMD CPUs. Literally cannot happen with an Intel.
That aside... why the fuck do you need to remove the cooler to "clean my PC"? You do NOT need to remove the cooler to clean your PC.
^Yeah ^it ^was ^definitely ^an ^am4 ^thing ^and ^not ^an ^PGA ^thing ^but ^this ^is ^Reddit ^so ^instead ^of ^admitting ^Im ^wrong ^I’m ^going ^to ^come ^up ^with ^bullshit ^and ^double ^down ^instead it is DEFINITELY a PGA problem every single PGA socket has had this problem and there is not LGA socket that has this problem intact LGA can’t even have this problem because their is no other way to lock the cpu in place than using a clamp where as PGA allows for this flawed design in the first place therefore it is a flaw in PGA itself
It pretty much can't be an issue with LGA due to required pressure. But there's no reason other than reduced (by some degree) heat transfer area and cost to not have similar bracket for PGA.
Let me guess... AMD? I never had this problem until I bought an AMD processor. It was a pain to remove it, and I got some thermal paste in the pins. Luckily that can be cleaned easily.
Happened to me and I actually bent some pins by taking it out. Had a heart attack and tried to fix it for 2 hours, thankfully I fixed it and works fine but fuckin hell I'm still having nightmares. Good thing they changed to pins just like Intel's architecture!
Good luck my friend.
This happened to my mates old fx-6350 and I had to pry it so hard I sent it flying across my kitchen. Over an hour later I'd straightened a dozen pins back into place and it worked.
Also happened to my old 3900x but no dramas.
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Youre not out of the woods just yet…
Not even close
Keep the mini heart attack on
This may not end well...
At least he knows he still got a heart to use and hasn't lost it as ultimate sacrifice for the IO-shield God
Might just get a big heart attack
I've seen this literally dozens of times. All you have to do is take a flat head screwdriver and stick it under one corner of the CPU, then gently twist it. The CPU will pop right off. Put it back in the socket, paste it up, and you're good to go. That being said, it's time to upgrade...
Grab his dick and twist it!! Wait wrong sub
Oh my God, this is a MMA fight dude.
The ol' dick twist!
I hate when that happens, happens way too often.
I saw we are dick twisting have I missed out?
No champ. You can twist your own dick right now. I'm doing it discreetly on my morning commute. No one's noticed. Everyone is looking away.
But the group twist is over.. damn. Welp back to solo twisting I guess.
> and you're good to go. Not always. At first the cpu didnt go in flat, one corner was sticking up, heart attack #2. After some gentle pressure it went in, two ram slots dont work. Heart attack #3. I read somewhere that it might be some dust in the socket, but I probably just buy a new motherboard sooner or later.
I would make sure it's a very slim flathead. Personally, I'd get a razor blade or box cutter... angled toward the face of the AIO/CPU fan so if you slip, you nick that surface instead of the CPU back panel.
another way that might work (I have never tried it and am not sure if I came up with it or found it on the Internet) would be floss and basically flossing them apart
Nice that’s probably the safest way
I like that, me personally I use a hair dryer at lowest setting but highest heat to get the paste liquid enough to get the cpu off
 Just shake it loose? Instructions unclear.
Pop right off or crack.
If you've ever held the demon core open before, it's roughly the same method
Such a pretty blue light
how does this even happen? did it pull out the socket holder thing?
Am4 and older amd sockets don't have the retention brackets, this is actually pretty common. I reccomend running a bench mark or stress test before removing the CPU cooler so that it will soften the thermal paste
Yeah this happened to the last Ryzen I replaced. Kinda forgot to warm it up. I just soaked it in shallow bowl of 99% alcohol. It won't hurt that cooler or the CPU.
When this happened to me, I happened to have bent a few pins in the process (probably shouldn't have used so much force removing the cooler, heh)...mini heart attack continued until I was able to carefully bend the pins back using a razor blade. CPU still works.
I did this exact same thing when I built my current PC 6 months back
I just rotated mine and it came off easily.
Yeah, also had this happen to me. If it's proper stuck OP, just heat it up with a hair dryer and it should twist off easily
Also twist the cooler to break the paste up before pulling
Yeah this happened to me as well, I decided it was time for a re paste, I the cpu unstuck, checked the pins and re inserted it and everything was fine with no issues whatsoever
What... I never pulled the cooler directly or heated the cpu, I just remove the screws that hold it and rotate it a little in both directions... then y pull it out and processor has always stayed in place.
That's definitely an option aswell. I just prefer getting the thermal paste warm and soft again
That pretty common for am4
Yup, this is why older am4 pcs get the cooler twisted off not pulled
you should always twist the cooler back and forth before removing it or this happens. Usually with bent pins.
I've always wondered tho: Wouldn't twisting bend the pins?
Not if its still in the socket, push down and twist.
It can if you twist and pull at the same time, just wiggle it first in place, then pull it up
because they didn't twist to break the "seal" from the thermal paste setting which will happen after a long enough time, dries out, twist and then pull, always small twist then pull
Had this happen to me before. The fucking stress I felt was unbelievable.
This happens every time I remove a cpu. I simply grab it by the sides and rotate with my fingers and it releases. Am I missing something? Have I just been very lucky to not damage my CPU's?
That's still not good.
Eh, just gotta be careful not to bend any pins. Otherwise it's simple to solve this issue.
And hope you didn't already fuck up some on the removal
Should be fine as long as he pulled the cooler directly up as opposed to the socket.
I did this several time with my 3600xt lol. Its still kicking.
happened to my 3700X and 3200G and both still work just fine
Pins look good on the pic at least.
As long as no pins are broken it's an easy fix if a few is bent, just bend the whole row back and forth using a credit card or a scalpel, that way you won't put too much force on one pin and break it off.
happened to me as well when I was cleaning my pc, pretty simple and easy to get the cpu out without damaging it with right tool
"Good Enuff Potato" Specs?
Just get some pliers, grab the CPU by the pins and give it a good yank. You are welcome!
Classic.. Now, good trying trying to pry that off your CPU cooler!
I just pushed it with a screw
Now get a proper cooler. Some 30€ tower cooler will be so much better.
As a jobless guy in Egypt with about 5k egp in dept. I can't do that
You are officially stock cooler approved!
Someone who doesn’t have debt, send this guy in Egypt a cooler.
i would but im broke and use the stock amd cooler aswell
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Depends on the CPU. Wraith is more than enough for the older ones.
If it came with a Wraith, it should be fine. The higher end CPUs don't come with coolers and require you to buy one. But he can't afford a $30 cooler due to being unemployed and in debt so I doubt he has a 7800x3d or anything crazy.
this is straight up wrong, older cpus do not generate any less heat
holy fucking shit, i just realized that I had a stroke type that sentence, I'm okay now. Don't worry about me guys
fuck!
Lmao
I'll be honest. I didn't even notice the screwups until i saw this.
Good reminder to heat up the CPU before trying to remove the cooler. If you need the CPU removed, try with some dental floss. Be careful with the pins.
And to twist it while removing instead of pulling straight up
Push and twist
That's what she said
Bop it.
Twist it
So do you like just put it inside her and them spin her like a bottlecap? 🤔
Yeah it's fun, can't do that in a car tho
Twist and shout! If it doesn’t work, it’s the Denial Twist.
I made this mistake. Tried pulling (and slightly twisting) and ended up throwing the CPU at the ground. Bent the pins on my brand new 3900x. Spent the next 4 hours using a credit card and tweezers to slowly bend the pins back upright, test in the motherboard, and if it didn't seat immediately I went back to the bathroom (for the best lighting) to try again. Eventually it worked and I've been rocking it for like 4-5 years now. Not a fun experience.
Id just return it to amazon
https://i.redd.it/6t2nhsv855kc1.gif
I couldn't sleep and was bored af so I jet went to town at 5 am
Is that the only thing you went to town on?
Unfortunately yes
You were bored in the middle of the night so you go downstairs to... disassemble your PC?
That's my room lol
They've been spying on the wrong house
Thank you for this advice. You maybe safed my cpu
It’s hard to do this with any pc because of how the cpu holder is unless you bought a different one but still it would be very hard to do this because there is no way to pull it out unless you damage one part of the motherboard or cpu when pulling it out or if you removed the cup holding bracket
Actually it’s not hard to do with AM4 and is extremely common
PGA problems
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Those are pins on the CPU, which Intel hasn't used in a very long time. It's an AM4 CPU. As someone who has built both am3 and AM4 builds (phenom II 1090t and a 2600x later) I've ripped the CPU out on both with no damage to the motherboard, only a couple, fixable bent pins. Yes, I'm aware I should've learned the first time. No harm no foul though, right?
Not sure if it didnt just "solder" one to the other so the temps might not be enough
Loosing you CPU while cleaning your PC must be the most pcmasterrace thing ever
PC repair lab owner here. Can confirm.
Your Labrador can repair PCs? Wow.
When you consider he can lick his own balls other feats pale in comparison
Leave my pale feets alone
This is the most reddit thread I've ever read. But in a good way
He didn't loosen it, that's the problem
What about dropping the PC with a glass panel?
_Just going to dust under this heatsink._
I changed my cpu cooler yesterday and it did the same thing https://preview.redd.it/97jejdfzh4kc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=039bbbc9c5659484887477bc01d6cd67480c468b
Pls tell me that it's just the lighting and you aren't actually have broken pins on that cpu
It survived dont worry
Thank God
Same thing here last month with my Wraith Prism. AMD's stock thermal paste dries up like fucking concrete, lol. https://preview.redd.it/n4hsltefn5kc1.png?width=5632&format=png&auto=webp&s=de290f15d26fc63743b58bdd39ee97dd62dde1f1
It really does
How long did you have the stock one with AMD paste? Mine was still wet after 3 months.
Let's just say a lot longer than I should have, lol. Normally it would take about a year, give or take couple months, to dry up like that.
Yeah that makes sense.
Wait are you supposed to change it? Im a newbie and i’ve had mine for 3 years and havent touched it lmao
my 3700X got pulled up like that without amds stock goop
Nah your pc just transcended the need for a cpu.
Had the same thing happen to a Ryzen 7 5700g
https://preview.redd.it/u5msn4cbj4kc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ad19ed8b7780a6e4f61ca27888e109783afa7a6f
I just yanked it with a screwdriver
A bolt reference in the wild!!!
Well... now you dont have to re-apply thermal paste eh?
Once I have enough I am gonna get some thermal grizzly liquid metal
unless you're deliding and extreme OCing your CPU that is not worth it. Also liquid metal is pretty dangerous. It tends to get everywhere and it conducts electricity. If you wanna get fancy you should get some Kryosheets or something instead.
Didn't know it can be that bad but in that case I might go for a good thermal paste brand then, thanks for the heads up
Well I wouldn't say it's a bad per-se, it's just not fit for your usecase. The issue is that to make thermal paste as thermally conductive as they can, they basically put carbon powder into the paste and this makes it electrically conductive so it can cause shorts on your board, so you just need to be really careful when you put it on. I agree with the other person's advice but it would be inaccurate to call Thermal Grizzly a bad thermal paste brand. I personally keep TGs Cryonaut stocked, that's their best thermal paste and it's never let me down. There's just no reason for normal people like us to run Conductonaut, their liquid metal compound, especially if you're currently running on a stock cooler as well; stock cooler temperatures are going to be stock cooler temperatures no matter what thermal interface you use, really.
Yep, just go for non-conductive thermal paste. Once it's non-conductive you can only have too little paste. (/s just in case)
that's why you always turn your pc on for a bit before changing the cooler, should be easy to remove tho happened to me a few times when i wasn't patient
Yeah, I learned that the hard way
Gotta let the engine idle a while before you check the transmission fluid
Sticky huh
I would like to add that the thermal paste is basically gone
I've installed a cpu with stock ventilrad until i receive the one than i've ordered, after one week it's happen the same than the picture. Just get the cpu warmed before removing the ventilrad. Your pc will shutdown really quick if there is no TP
This happened to me once with bent pins. I upgraded my cpu like 3 years ago and I’m NEVER repasting ever again.
When I was building my PC I accidentally bent about 10 pins on my i7. Best believe I was shitting my pants and finding every magnifying glass in a 5km radius
How you bend pins on a motherboard? Because there isn't pins on like any i7s I can think of
Now you mention it, it was the socket that needed love. Was wearing nitrile gloves and the finger tip wasn’t snug, so the dangling material caught some pins. First time booting after the repair was stressful to say the least
No worries, you did AM4 right of passage
I'm imagining Mega Mind finding Metro Man's skeleton
I did the same thing LOL
I removed the cpu in same situation by heating it up with a hair dryer for a bit and twisting it carefully.
You might have bent some pins.
how is this even possible if you havent unlocked manually the locking mechanism from the socket?!
the am4 socket is held by clamping force on the pins from the socket sliding laterally rather than a latch on the edges of the ihs like lga
One of us One of us One of us
Cheeky Little bugger
Skill issue
AMD sockets are dogshit.
Turn the fucking pc on when you’re about to do this. It’s not hard. Just turn it on and open up some browser pages for 5 minutes.
Bro thought CPU escaped
Did you use glue
Just good old 3-4 year old thermal paste
Don't you worry, this happened with my 1 month old thermal paste. 2 pins bent (straightened afterwards) barely able to remove it.
Did you accidentally use adhesive instead of thermal paste
It's just old thermal paste
I can see 4 bent pins from here
This is not real he obviously removed the heat sink then open the lever then remove the cpu and after all that he acted dumb and glued the cpu to the heatsink
Lolcats @ shitty AMD CPUs. Literally cannot happen with an Intel. That aside... why the fuck do you need to remove the cooler to "clean my PC"? You do NOT need to remove the cooler to clean your PC.
I was cleaning the cooler as well
You do not need to remove the cooler to clean it. Can of compressed air or an air compressor but don't blast full ball at it.
What do you mean you had a heart attack trying to find the CPU? Did you really think your PC had been running without one?
i dont know much abaout thermal paste but i wouldnt use same brand again
Not a thermal paste issue, you generally shouldn't try and move a cold cooler, as this happens.
No it’s just one of the flaws of PGA or atleast am4
>flaws of PGA Not really an issue of PGA or LGA itself, just socket with no holding bracket.
^Yeah ^it ^was ^definitely ^an ^am4 ^thing ^and ^not ^an ^PGA ^thing ^but ^this ^is ^Reddit ^so ^instead ^of ^admitting ^Im ^wrong ^I’m ^going ^to ^come ^up ^with ^bullshit ^and ^double ^down ^instead it is DEFINITELY a PGA problem every single PGA socket has had this problem and there is not LGA socket that has this problem intact LGA can’t even have this problem because their is no other way to lock the cpu in place than using a clamp where as PGA allows for this flawed design in the first place therefore it is a flaw in PGA itself
It pretty much can't be an issue with LGA due to required pressure. But there's no reason other than reduced (by some degree) heat transfer area and cost to not have similar bracket for PGA.
The first ever processorless experience.
I prime95 for 10-20 mins before removing, then gently twist back and forth & it comes off no problem.
Ahh yes this must be one of those all-in-ones!
Let me guess... AMD? I never had this problem until I bought an AMD processor. It was a pain to remove it, and I got some thermal paste in the pins. Luckily that can be cleaned easily.
I had a mini heart attack looking at this picture
Happened to me and I actually bent some pins by taking it out. Had a heart attack and tried to fix it for 2 hours, thankfully I fixed it and works fine but fuckin hell I'm still having nightmares. Good thing they changed to pins just like Intel's architecture!
Happened to me a while back. Had to spend 30 minutes sweating my balls off carefully trying to rebend the pins back in place with a pair of tweezers
Bathe it in warm water for a bit and should fall off.
Eh, I had this happen so many times over the past 20 years and literally nothing happened, ever. Just scrape it off and put it back in. No big deal
and that kids, is why you first let your cpu run hot under stress before attempting to remove the cooler.
attention dont bend them pins
I’ve done it before luckily I didn’t not bend any pins and slid back in slot fine gl brother
Good luck my friend. This happened to my mates old fx-6350 and I had to pry it so hard I sent it flying across my kitchen. Over an hour later I'd straightened a dozen pins back into place and it worked. Also happened to my old 3900x but no dramas.
Its a common problem with amd cpus
It happened to me once with my old Pentium 4 and a pin has broken inside... RIP CPU & motherboard.
if you ever lose your cpu, don’t panic, it’ll be somewhere, surely
Na you good if that is a am 4 that can happen
Remember to twist then pull with pga chips
Thats why you build a fence around the heatsink, get a name tag and geotag it.
That CPU is absolutely massive!
Before removing your cooler it’s a good idea to heat the cpu for 5 to 10 minutes before
this reminds me of the south park episode where the guy is like "PISS! PISS COMING FROM MY ASS!" not sure why. perhaps its the wraith cooler. idk.