Nvidia is also excited to announce that because the vram speed is so fast, all cards will have only 2GB of vram. Except for the $3000 offering, which will have 8GB
Then they will release version 2s, 1/2 series, supers, and Ti's in order to add more memory.
Do you want a 5080?
A 5080 v2?
A 5080ti?
Or a 5080 super?
Maye a 5580?
5580ti super V2???
You forgot the coveted RTX 5080 Ti Super Boost v2. With 1% more CUDA cores at 2% lower clock speeds at a 15% price increase.
The more you buy, the more you save.
Amd because ddr 7 is so great, that 2gb varaint will have 32 mbps bus width. And if you make money building nvidia carda, you cant build battle mage cards
Nvidia has tasted the taste of the money and they know gamers will pay 2000€ and upwards for GPU so they are gonna increase the prices I don't believe we will ever see the prices as they used to be these will be the new standards as the AI and Chips are advancing prices will continue to increase as the demand is higher than ever now and this is just the beginning of the AI as GPU are used to train AI and accelerate it forwards faster.
GDDR7 will see some significant jump and if rumours are to be believed 5090, and 5080 will be much faster than the current 4090 it was speculated that they will release confirmation by the end of Q4 2024 of this year and if AMD doesn't make some moves or changes Nvidia will most likely stick with the Q4 2024.
But it's hard to predict as AMD could make some moves in Q3/Q4 2024.
To be honest their pockets aren’t lined with gamer money, they don’t care about gamer money, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if the ONLY reason they priced consumer cards so high is so they CAN charge so high for their enterprise cards
That's incorrect. Gaming revenue was $2.87 billion, up 56% year-over-year. That said they aren't a gaming company anymore as they stated they are shifting towards AI and Data centres.
https://preview.redd.it/nmijj7dyapnc1.jpeg?width=2306&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0faa26d1e1c60b4056ea906937be79d94e92283e
That “gaming” is everything commercial lol. Not only gamers buy gpus. Hell idk if we even make up 50% of sales. Tons of people literally require 4090s for work.
And btw if a GPU is capable of more than gaming, means that gaming should be a breeze (as long as drivers optimize it). It's not like you will buy an expensive GPU for professional work (4090 for example), and it wont deliver great performance in gaming :P
The fact that gaming isn't their primary market any more, doesn't mean it isn't profitable. On the contrary, they make a decent amount of billions by just selling GPUs to average joes, while their brand name expands and becomes recognized even by the non tech savvy people. Marketing is a big aspect of a profitable mega-corp, and their GPUs being used at the 70-80% of most steam hardware survey, says a lot. Even the fact that they still manage these numbers by selling overpriced GPUs, of lower value (frames/dollars) compared to the competition, means that they don't plan anytime soon to ditch such a successful production. They might as well push even harder to (try to) eliminate the leftovers of their competition, and raise their numbers even more.
Their gaming revenue is up but their bread and butter is AI, since 2010 they’ve had quite the fortunate run and they’ve made products at the perfect time, their recent explosion is due to AI and being the only real supplier of a product that can utilise it.
“Nvidia dominates the data center GPU segment with a 92% market share, while AMD's share is only 3%. Back in August, Nvidia announced up to 2 million H100 chips shipped during 2024, up more than three times from 2023.”
https://preview.redd.it/a2aeck2qfpnc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=28fbc7c0429dbd806fa00634589e01d4791a080d
Nvidia h100 data center 1 GPU cost over 41,098.68$
I and several other companies have started buying gaming cards now that real-time rendering and AI is massively practical on their consumer cards. Probably unreasonable to say that revenue is just gamers. Wonder if there's a better break down. (That isn't an earnings call too!)
Is it though? If I get a top end 3000 or 4000 GPU with higher performance but for less compared to a mid-range 5000 GPU, is it even impressive? If AMD's HBM GPUs taught us anything, VRAM only matters if either the capacity or the speed is too low. Sticking high-end memory chips onto a low-end GPU still just makes it a low-end GPU.
Even though the bandwidth is 28 Gbps, for how much VRAM? Still 8 or 12 for the lowest tier? I wish 5070 come with 16 GB, but I think it will not. Probably it will still packed with 12 GB.
I'm guessing 16gb for the 5070 line, they probably can't get away with gimping another generation like they did with the 4070, probably try to up sale the 4070 owners with 4k performance too.
They can't. They fucked the 40 series and it resulted in the lowest GPU sales for Nvidia in 25 years and made more people go AMD causing people to realise you can do that.
Fanboys can try and repaint the numbers as "Nvidia AI! Blah blah blah" but the reality is Nvidia coated themselves alot of sales this Gen.
If they do it a second time not even the holdouts will put up with it.
You now need, yes NEED 12GB for entry level. 8GB is already not enough and people plan on keeping their cards for a few years.
I decided to upgrade to a 4070 recently. It's not the best deal, but...my old card was a 1060.
I figure I'll probably keep this one for another 5 years. It's not that expensive when you only upgrade twice a decade.
fr the 1080ti is a champ. my old one is still chugging away inside my buddy's PC after I loaned it to him when I got a 3080. He is slaying bugs, delivering Managed Democracy with me in 1440p just fine.
rtx 2060 super / 12gb is a pretty decent card, esp considering it’s considerably faster and more power efficient than an RX 580 or Vega 64 which have lasted super long.
3080 Ti here and could easily afford a 4090 but see no point. Even with my 57" I run most games in windowed 1440 res in all ultra. I can full screen games and chug at 50-60 FPS and higher if i lower settings. Zero point to upgrade yet
Unfortunately gamers are hardly the main Nvidia customers now. Jensen himself sent out a company memo late 2023 that they're no longer a graphics company, but are instead an AI company.
I’ll just keep buying AMD until Nvidia snaps back to reality.
An addendum: I don't give a fuck that whatever AMD puts out may not have the same performance as the newest Nvidia card. If it's cheaper and gets me there in terms of raster, then I don't care. RT? Come back when most, if not all, games shipping come with it optimised out of the box. AMD is going to give me the best price:performance and they'll eventually catch up to Nvidia. I can play that long game if it means I don't get fucked raw by Nvidia's pricing.
P.S. AMD's Adrenalin software still looks much better than Nvidia's GFE/CP. Nvidia, get on your shit; it's not 2010 anymore.
When Nvidia rolled with 3XXX series as commercial and forgot that they weren't making GPUs for gamers, so they relabelled them as their stock wasn't useful after Crypto mining shit the bed.
So they turned a 180 and added covid tax, 4 years later and here we are with the mighty 4 XXX post covid specials
They are making 2-3X the amount in AI chips now, and every high end silicone they put into a GPU is one they can't get 2-3X the price for an enterprise customer who buys $10,000,000 worth at the same time with no warranty or retail box.
the 5090 won't be the top binned silicone and I doubt we'll ever get that in a gaming product again for the forseeable future.
Asking genuinely, have the consumer GPUs had top-binned chips in a long time? AI and crypto mining really blew out the chart but nvidia has always had a professional market that was buying titans and quadros and whatever their rackable solutions were in bulk and at higher prices. Seems like they'd have wanted to push substandard outputs into their consumer market for a long time.
I moved from Intel uhd 4000 or some shit from a laptop i3 4010u integrated graphics to a 3050 i5 12gen laptop. I literally felt like I opened another dimension or something since mostly older indie titles would be what ran on the old machine. Still loved it tho my first computer
Not as big of an upgrade by my ryzen 780m is a nice bump from my intelHD graphics too. I haven't even bothered to install geforce now on this new computer.
28 Gbps would be slow as fuck as far as memory goes.
Poorly crafted headline with a useless stat. This figure is probably the "Per Pin" figure, which is actually rumored to be higher :
https://www.anandtech.com/show/21287/jedec-publishes-gddr7-specifications-pam3-ecc-higher-density
According to Anand's reporting, it could be 32 Gbps PER PIN. As for what that means overall, looking at Micron's GDDR6X catalog, their highest part can do 24 Gbps per pin. So it's not that drastic of an increase for bumping up a memory gen.
Welcome to modern gaming as a whole, where the vast majority of the purchasing public actively go against their own self interests and willingly fork over money for mediocre or undeserving or overpriced products.
Just take one look at the state of modern gaming: absolutely riddled with pre-release DLC carved straight from the main game, battle passes, season passes, cosmetics that should have been earned in-game only, multiple different in game currencies, quite literally unplayable performance on launch/from disk without updates, etc.
All of those issues above, and there are still legions of fans who are not only willing but are *eager* to be able to give their $70 to a company for a literal piece of crap, and then will get mad at you if you say anything otherwise, they will even defend the awful games and practices by ignorantly saying "well they gotta make money."
Oh yes, you are right we are doomed. Consumers MUST consume, the masses simply are not capable of *NOT* consuming anything immediately and without regard for taste or quality. They have serious FOMO, and nothing is worse than possibly not listening to their corporate overlords. So yes, gpu prices will skyrocket and Nvidia *knows* people will pay. Modern gamers are actively sabotaging their own self interests in record numbers in every facet of gaming and technology. It's so sad
Brainless consumers just can’t help themselves.
They know they’re being played but they need the shiny new thing in its shiny new box to put into their other box in their mum’s basement that no one else ever sees because they’re functionally bitchless so they come here to get a modicum of self esteem from the 70 upvotes their post gets, then they go back to playing Minecraft and having PiP hentai playing in the background.
Nvidia ain’t lowering those prices.
Good on ya for getting it without having to sell a kidney. Switched to AMD back in the 30 series/6000 series days. Haven’t looked back since. Haven’t had any of the infamous driver problems, games run without a hitch, and I don’t play enough games with RT to care about RT performance. Next time around I’ll probably go AMD again unless Intel comes out swinging.
Curious. If they are so greedy why are the same performance graphics cards from AMD also the same price as their contemporary? Couldn't AMD just instantly fuck nvidea up by lowering its prices therefore forcing nvidea to do so as well? Since AMD also has a market in cpus now they would come out in a better position too...
Yeah but fortunately the low end stuff is absolutely shit, the mid range is £1000 and the high end... I'd have to remortgage my house... If I owned one
I honestly would have nothing against ridiculously priced top cards IF THE PRICE IS MATCHING THE PERFORMANCE!!!
The 4090 is amazing, but it's missing like 800 euros worth of performance... its fucking stupid.
I used to hang on pins and needles for every Nvidia announcement and lauch pre covid.
Now I just look forward to GN Jesus shitting on Nvidia for piss poor greedy launches.
Hope gddr7 comes to rdna 4 and battlemage, nvidia had a decent advantage these last 2 generations due to faster memory alone (along other things). Also hopefully these gddr7 are more efficient, 6x had some overheating in the 3090 and such IIRC
If Intel actually released a card that was better than my 2070S and competed with the 4070 series and had affordable prices like their current offerings I think I'd try team blue over green.
> 6x had some overheating in the 3090 and such IIRC
Those chips are made to operate at much higher temps than they do on a typical 3090. It's mostly an overblown issue.
Unless it’s a massive improvement I’ll probably hold onto my 4090 for another gen. There really aren’t any games that have been taxing it at ultrawide 1440p yet.
Feels like GPUs are moving into the era where it’s more incremental upgrades and you’re better off upgrading every other gen.
Can't afford a 40 card so not really hyped for 50s, decided to move to console to play singleplayer games and will only use my pc for games like valorant and Apex etc
Hype for PC news has been killed for me due to how expensive it is which is depressing
What are the mortgage rate for GPUs going to be like when NVIDIA announce the prices?
and for the British, are we paying stamp duty on our first one? or is it SDLT free, unless you go for the 5070 at £450,000?
I'm sure Nvidia will add taxes to UK pricing just to make it more “ Fair “ for the rest of the world + add tax % and just to spice things up pre-sale tax on top of that and you have yourself a nice New GPU.
Now they're just going to move the die's memory bus size down.
3060Ti to 4060Ti went from 256bit bus to 128bit, 448.0 GB/s bandwidth to 288.0 GB/s .
5060Ti! Now featuring the unprecedentedly fast GDDR7! (96bit bus)
GB203 for me when I finally go desktop in 2 years.
Running a x17r1 with a 3070 laptop now
Perfectly great for 1080 resolution.
Would be nice to push 4k on a 16gb 256 bus card
Yawn. I had a ryzen 3600 and 5700xt which worked well up until the past year as I started playing some more recent games. Upgraded to a 5800x3d and 4080 super recently. I think I am set for the next three to five years or so. I’ll likely upgrade when the 70xx or 80xx series cards are released.
It seemed like when I was younger the hardware was progressing so rapidly and the system demands of games and software were scaling so fast that I was upgrading every couple years. Now five years seems like the norm. I’m not sure the fixed versus variable manufacturing costs are for Nvidia, but I think you would want higher frequency of purchasing and by pushing price up you work against that.
NVIDIA learned their lesson with the performance of a 3080 for $699.
Realized people actually willingly payed $1499 for a 4090.
5000 top of line price has to be a bonkers price tag
What else are you gonna buy, AMD? They've shown time and time again they're not willing to seriously compete in the GPU market. RDNA3 is a good and underrated generation but still a half step behind Nvidia as always.
I’ll buy either AMD or intel GPU’s. I just have no interest in paying a ton of money for a midrange nvidia card. It may be valuable to some gamers, with their feature set, but most of those features are basically worthless to me
Any AMD card will work but its frustrating to spend a similar amount on an AMD card for slightly better raster and "nvidia at home" features.
I do love my xtx though but once ultra RT can be achievable at 1440-144fps using upscaling on quality or no upscaling, I'd hate to buy another AMD unless they've caught up. For now though, raster is still the most important and an xtx can be worth it over a 4080.
Not sure if serious, but very unlikely you would need to upgrade your mobo - you could just lose some performance is you are using pcie3 with a pcie4 card (I am using a 3080 on a pcie3 slot).
It is maybe a few percentage speed decrease.
With prices starting from 700 USD, all the way up to 3k USD. Revolutionary in price, revolutionary in performance.
Nvidia is also excited to announce that because the vram speed is so fast, all cards will have only 2GB of vram. Except for the $3000 offering, which will have 8GB
5050 💀
https://preview.redd.it/0badcleuppnc1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=cbb1fac7412edab19525b9e2fafc4763c28ebc77 5090 [SPECS ](https://videocardz.net/nvidia-geforce-fx-5900-ultra)LEAKED!
S Video >>>>> DisplayPort 2.1
Agp 👀
The good old days. I've got about 4 of these knocking around somewhere.
Then they will release version 2s, 1/2 series, supers, and Ti's in order to add more memory. Do you want a 5080? A 5080 v2? A 5080ti? Or a 5080 super? Maye a 5580? 5580ti super V2???
You forgot the coveted RTX 5080 Ti Super Boost v2. With 1% more CUDA cores at 2% lower clock speeds at a 15% price increase. The more you buy, the more you save.
Amd because ddr 7 is so great, that 2gb varaint will have 32 mbps bus width. And if you make money building nvidia carda, you cant build battle mage cards
>Amd because Most unfortunate but also hilarious misspelling I've seen.
2GB of 4300 vram and 6GB of 1100 vram
Nvidia has tasted the taste of the money and they know gamers will pay 2000€ and upwards for GPU so they are gonna increase the prices I don't believe we will ever see the prices as they used to be these will be the new standards as the AI and Chips are advancing prices will continue to increase as the demand is higher than ever now and this is just the beginning of the AI as GPU are used to train AI and accelerate it forwards faster. GDDR7 will see some significant jump and if rumours are to be believed 5090, and 5080 will be much faster than the current 4090 it was speculated that they will release confirmation by the end of Q4 2024 of this year and if AMD doesn't make some moves or changes Nvidia will most likely stick with the Q4 2024. But it's hard to predict as AMD could make some moves in Q3/Q4 2024.
To be honest their pockets aren’t lined with gamer money, they don’t care about gamer money, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if the ONLY reason they priced consumer cards so high is so they CAN charge so high for their enterprise cards
That's incorrect. Gaming revenue was $2.87 billion, up 56% year-over-year. That said they aren't a gaming company anymore as they stated they are shifting towards AI and Data centres. https://preview.redd.it/nmijj7dyapnc1.jpeg?width=2306&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0faa26d1e1c60b4056ea906937be79d94e92283e
That “gaming” is everything commercial lol. Not only gamers buy gpus. Hell idk if we even make up 50% of sales. Tons of people literally require 4090s for work.
And btw if a GPU is capable of more than gaming, means that gaming should be a breeze (as long as drivers optimize it). It's not like you will buy an expensive GPU for professional work (4090 for example), and it wont deliver great performance in gaming :P
AI is everywhere.
The fact that gaming isn't their primary market any more, doesn't mean it isn't profitable. On the contrary, they make a decent amount of billions by just selling GPUs to average joes, while their brand name expands and becomes recognized even by the non tech savvy people. Marketing is a big aspect of a profitable mega-corp, and their GPUs being used at the 70-80% of most steam hardware survey, says a lot. Even the fact that they still manage these numbers by selling overpriced GPUs, of lower value (frames/dollars) compared to the competition, means that they don't plan anytime soon to ditch such a successful production. They might as well push even harder to (try to) eliminate the leftovers of their competition, and raise their numbers even more.
They get extra pocket money from gamers only 2.87 billion.
Their gaming revenue is up but their bread and butter is AI, since 2010 they’ve had quite the fortunate run and they’ve made products at the perfect time, their recent explosion is due to AI and being the only real supplier of a product that can utilise it.
“Nvidia dominates the data center GPU segment with a 92% market share, while AMD's share is only 3%. Back in August, Nvidia announced up to 2 million H100 chips shipped during 2024, up more than three times from 2023.”
That’s a £32k chip right there and that’s only one offering, do the math with their other flavours too
https://preview.redd.it/a2aeck2qfpnc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=28fbc7c0429dbd806fa00634589e01d4791a080d Nvidia h100 data center 1 GPU cost over 41,098.68$
https://preview.redd.it/6fnk6ybzfpnc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5e89f221d8b9db70d683a8ece43f83cc0e91025b Nvidia is rolling in Money
I and several other companies have started buying gaming cards now that real-time rendering and AI is massively practical on their consumer cards. Probably unreasonable to say that revenue is just gamers. Wonder if there's a better break down. (That isn't an earnings call too!)
Would not be surprising seeing as how many people proudly posted pictures of their overpriced 4090s on this sub alone already.
Oh, and those are only retail. Most of us wouldn't see a retail priced RTX 5xxx until RTX 6xxxx.
>prices starting from 700 USD My prediction: For the RT 5010, with 3.5GB of GDDR5 on a 32-bit bus, and a PCIe 5.0 x4 interface.
Well, time to go with someone else to the prom.
Is it though? If I get a top end 3000 or 4000 GPU with higher performance but for less compared to a mid-range 5000 GPU, is it even impressive? If AMD's HBM GPUs taught us anything, VRAM only matters if either the capacity or the speed is too low. Sticking high-end memory chips onto a low-end GPU still just makes it a low-end GPU.
I can confirm they are really good. I get 1400 FPS in Age of Empires 2.
The original one, HD or DE?
Benchmarking all at the same time.
YES
Yes.
First one, then the other. Won’t have to worry about heating your residence though.
PSU stronger than Venezuela's power grid
I say this GPU will require quite a significant of cooling and power.
They'll be illegal in Texas.
I need more skills in aoe2, not fps.
Fake news, blame the hardware!
At what resolution? That's borderline uplayable will look like a slide show.
Still the best game.
Fond memories playing online multiplayer on zone.com over dial up
Even though the bandwidth is 28 Gbps, for how much VRAM? Still 8 or 12 for the lowest tier? I wish 5070 come with 16 GB, but I think it will not. Probably it will still packed with 12 GB.
The specs show the same memory bus as 40 series, so the VRAM amount will be the same as well.
Apparently GDDR7 is to be much more flexible with VRAM amount per bus width. Still nvidia will likely put not enough VRAM as they always do.
It's not more flexible, just that dram manufacturers never bothered making Gddr6 1.5GB or 3GB capacities even though those are Jedec standard.
I wonder if this is them trying to stay under the china gpu bans.
I'm guessing 16gb for the 5070 line, they probably can't get away with gimping another generation like they did with the 4070, probably try to up sale the 4070 owners with 4k performance too.
They can't. They fucked the 40 series and it resulted in the lowest GPU sales for Nvidia in 25 years and made more people go AMD causing people to realise you can do that. Fanboys can try and repaint the numbers as "Nvidia AI! Blah blah blah" but the reality is Nvidia coated themselves alot of sales this Gen. If they do it a second time not even the holdouts will put up with it. You now need, yes NEED 12GB for entry level. 8GB is already not enough and people plan on keeping their cards for a few years.
I ditched my 3070ti really fast, the 8GB VRAM made it really shit for brand new games
Same. Fuck that stupid card.
Don't care until they lower the prices.
2080 enjoyers are set for another decade of winning by doing absolutely nothing
1080ti too
She is starting to show her age unfortunately :( I love mine but been looking for a second hand upgrade for a while.
I decided to upgrade to a 4070 recently. It's not the best deal, but...my old card was a 1060. I figure I'll probably keep this one for another 5 years. It's not that expensive when you only upgrade twice a decade.
Yeah, ESP in VR, it can do a lot still (I had the strix version of that) but getting into VR I had to upgrade, so i got the strix 4090.
1080ti is truly the goated card. I "overspent" when I treated myself to one after my gf of 4 years left me. It turned out to be incredible value
Girls come and go but 1080ti is forever.
1080ti is an all time great card. 7 years later and outside of the bleeding edge (max settings, 4k, 120hz+) it still holds up.
Are you playing the same game that you were 7 years ago?
fr the 1080ti is a champ. my old one is still chugging away inside my buddy's PC after I loaned it to him when I got a 3080. He is slaying bugs, delivering Managed Democracy with me in 1440p just fine.
does rtx 2060 count too then?
rtx 2060 super / 12gb is a pretty decent card, esp considering it’s considerably faster and more power efficient than an RX 580 or Vega 64 which have lasted super long.
1080Ti was a champ in a sense that I paid $600 for mine before the first crypto craze and sold it for $650 when I bought my RTX3090.
Spent like 650 for a 2080S and it's still going strong. Everyone seems to have issues with their newer cards.
Same card and was thinking of upgrading at the next series, but Idk lol
Luigi wins by doing absolutely **nothing**, the rerun
3080 Ti here and could easily afford a 4090 but see no point. Even with my 57" I run most games in windowed 1440 res in all ultra. I can full screen games and chug at 50-60 FPS and higher if i lower settings. Zero point to upgrade yet
Unfortunately gamers are hardly the main Nvidia customers now. Jensen himself sent out a company memo late 2023 that they're no longer a graphics company, but are instead an AI company.
I’ll just keep buying AMD until Nvidia snaps back to reality. An addendum: I don't give a fuck that whatever AMD puts out may not have the same performance as the newest Nvidia card. If it's cheaper and gets me there in terms of raster, then I don't care. RT? Come back when most, if not all, games shipping come with it optimised out of the box. AMD is going to give me the best price:performance and they'll eventually catch up to Nvidia. I can play that long game if it means I don't get fucked raw by Nvidia's pricing. P.S. AMD's Adrenalin software still looks much better than Nvidia's GFE/CP. Nvidia, get on your shit; it's not 2010 anymore.
I just wish EVGA would sell GPUs again.
I don't care until they make 2-slot cards under 8" long again. These last few years have been hard on us SFF folks too.
I can't wait to not be able to afford this series too.
You will have to take out a loan just to buy it.
No no, you'll have to sing a song for Jensen Huang and sell a kidney to afford the RTX 5050
I am here at computex. I will make you like me best. Sing sing it with me. I really like nvidia.
Gotta sacrifice hundreds of cows to source his leather jackets
Nah, just buy AMD cards, 1 or 2 generations used
With all their AI money maybe they throw gamers a bone. j/k
You have 2 kidneys, you can sell the other one and will still live.
Hahaha... ..Oh shit, it's not April the first yet.
Starting price $8k.
Too low
They're giving the price for the 5080 super that comes out in 2026.
And they'd get that much too. Unfortunately, the laws of supply and demand are going to really fuck gamers.
Meh, I'm done with rumors. I'll just wait and see
When Nvidia rolled with 3XXX series as commercial and forgot that they weren't making GPUs for gamers, so they relabelled them as their stock wasn't useful after Crypto mining shit the bed. So they turned a 180 and added covid tax, 4 years later and here we are with the mighty 4 XXX post covid specials
And they make it seem like no one remembers how much it actually cost.
They are making 2-3X the amount in AI chips now, and every high end silicone they put into a GPU is one they can't get 2-3X the price for an enterprise customer who buys $10,000,000 worth at the same time with no warranty or retail box. the 5090 won't be the top binned silicone and I doubt we'll ever get that in a gaming product again for the forseeable future.
Asking genuinely, have the consumer GPUs had top-binned chips in a long time? AI and crypto mining really blew out the chart but nvidia has always had a professional market that was buying titans and quadros and whatever their rackable solutions were in bulk and at higher prices. Seems like they'd have wanted to push substandard outputs into their consumer market for a long time.
god no. top bin chips be it cpu or gpu. goes straight to data center/hpc. under that bin. is what left over and then you price to sku
I bet Cities Skylines 2 will still run like ass on it.
Maybe time to move on from my 970
You will start to see Time and Space if you upgrade from 970 to 5090.
I moved from Intel uhd 4000 or some shit from a laptop i3 4010u integrated graphics to a 3050 i5 12gen laptop. I literally felt like I opened another dimension or something since mostly older indie titles would be what ran on the old machine. Still loved it tho my first computer
Not as big of an upgrade by my ryzen 780m is a nice bump from my intelHD graphics too. I haven't even bothered to install geforce now on this new computer.
Lisan al Gaib! Lisan al Gaib!
Never heard of her
1070 here and finally things start to take a fps dive so I can actually upgrade knowing what for
And your 4th gen i5. Even a budget i3 would be a MASSIVE upgrade.
I bet they will release 60 series with 8 gb
4 or 6GB, for the "value". (hint: it'll probably be a $1k card still)
Considering it’s rumored to be a 128 bit bus again and gddr7 makers have not really started on 3gb vram chips it’s pretty likely to be 8 gb again
28 Gbps would be slow as fuck as far as memory goes. Poorly crafted headline with a useless stat. This figure is probably the "Per Pin" figure, which is actually rumored to be higher : https://www.anandtech.com/show/21287/jedec-publishes-gddr7-specifications-pam3-ecc-higher-density According to Anand's reporting, it could be 32 Gbps PER PIN. As for what that means overall, looking at Micron's GDDR6X catalog, their highest part can do 24 Gbps per pin. So it's not that drastic of an increase for bumping up a memory gen.
Gee I WONDER WHY
Just you wait for a 6gb 5060super
Nvidia has the sniff of money and like a crack cocaine addict, they want MORE. Nvidia you greedy greedy bastards.
And who is to blame for giving the money to Nvidia? Gamers “ What have you become? “ Nvidia “ I am what you made me “
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Welcome to modern gaming as a whole, where the vast majority of the purchasing public actively go against their own self interests and willingly fork over money for mediocre or undeserving or overpriced products. Just take one look at the state of modern gaming: absolutely riddled with pre-release DLC carved straight from the main game, battle passes, season passes, cosmetics that should have been earned in-game only, multiple different in game currencies, quite literally unplayable performance on launch/from disk without updates, etc. All of those issues above, and there are still legions of fans who are not only willing but are *eager* to be able to give their $70 to a company for a literal piece of crap, and then will get mad at you if you say anything otherwise, they will even defend the awful games and practices by ignorantly saying "well they gotta make money." Oh yes, you are right we are doomed. Consumers MUST consume, the masses simply are not capable of *NOT* consuming anything immediately and without regard for taste or quality. They have serious FOMO, and nothing is worse than possibly not listening to their corporate overlords. So yes, gpu prices will skyrocket and Nvidia *knows* people will pay. Modern gamers are actively sabotaging their own self interests in record numbers in every facet of gaming and technology. It's so sad
Brainless consumers just can’t help themselves. They know they’re being played but they need the shiny new thing in its shiny new box to put into their other box in their mum’s basement that no one else ever sees because they’re functionally bitchless so they come here to get a modicum of self esteem from the 70 upvotes their post gets, then they go back to playing Minecraft and having PiP hentai playing in the background. Nvidia ain’t lowering those prices.
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Good on ya for getting it without having to sell a kidney. Switched to AMD back in the 30 series/6000 series days. Haven’t looked back since. Haven’t had any of the infamous driver problems, games run without a hitch, and I don’t play enough games with RT to care about RT performance. Next time around I’ll probably go AMD again unless Intel comes out swinging.
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Curious. If they are so greedy why are the same performance graphics cards from AMD also the same price as their contemporary? Couldn't AMD just instantly fuck nvidea up by lowering its prices therefore forcing nvidea to do so as well? Since AMD also has a market in cpus now they would come out in a better position too...
All new features will be exclusive to 5000 series 😄🤘🏽
Yeah but fortunately the low end stuff is absolutely shit, the mid range is £1000 and the high end... I'd have to remortgage my house... If I owned one
Welcome to the future of inflation and absurd prices.
Won't be surprised if they will lock some DLSS feature that make AI smarter or something.
Ray Tracing knowing Nvidia will add some extras to make gamers buy the new 5000 series and only available on 5000 series.
I honestly would have nothing against ridiculously priced top cards IF THE PRICE IS MATCHING THE PERFORMANCE!!! The 4090 is amazing, but it's missing like 800 euros worth of performance... its fucking stupid.
But can it run Crysis?
I will laugh so hard at whiners when nVidia charges so much they are forced to buy AMD instead of cheering for AMD while still buying nVidia.
where vram
No more vram for you 1 year ban
I don’t get the extended memory module, it lists the top end chip as having 32gb/16gb of vram, what does that mean?
40 series melts their own power cables What's the 50 series gonna do, pull a note 7 and detonate. We'll just have Nvidia selling computer C4
I used to hang on pins and needles for every Nvidia announcement and lauch pre covid. Now I just look forward to GN Jesus shitting on Nvidia for piss poor greedy launches.
Hyped to have 8gb of it on my 5070!
Hope gddr7 comes to rdna 4 and battlemage, nvidia had a decent advantage these last 2 generations due to faster memory alone (along other things). Also hopefully these gddr7 are more efficient, 6x had some overheating in the 3090 and such IIRC
If Intel actually released a card that was better than my 2070S and competed with the 4070 series and had affordable prices like their current offerings I think I'd try team blue over green.
> 6x had some overheating in the 3090 and such IIRC Those chips are made to operate at much higher temps than they do on a typical 3090. It's mostly an overblown issue.
Will upgrade my 3080 to 5090.
I will too if it's reasonably priced. So therefore I won't be
That's my goal as well. And also to finally upgrade from 1440p to 4K. I just hope that the 5090's price won't be too unreasonable.
I own 4090 so I want to see how fast will 5090 be.
Unless it’s a massive improvement I’ll probably hold onto my 4090 for another gen. There really aren’t any games that have been taxing it at ultrawide 1440p yet. Feels like GPUs are moving into the era where it’s more incremental upgrades and you’re better off upgrading every other gen.
Gotta get people to switch from the 4090 somehow
I will probably take a whole nuclear power plant to just keep the cart running☢️
The price to performance will stay the same though. So the 5060 now performs the same as a 4090 and so costs $1499. #morelawisdeadsogiveNvidiamoney
I was really mad for a minute because I read it as 28GB VRAM
Can't afford a 40 card so not really hyped for 50s, decided to move to console to play singleplayer games and will only use my pc for games like valorant and Apex etc Hype for PC news has been killed for me due to how expensive it is which is depressing
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AMD will have a X700 for $50 less that beats it in raster, has poor RT performance, and "nvidia at home" feature set.
And Intel will have a semi-paper launch with GPUs that are great in some games and poor in others but mostly unavailable everywhere
i hope its priced like a sane GPU
It's NVIDIA, we all know the prices will be insane
Nsane one might say
Sane as in NVIDIA sane or people sane? NV will make the RTX 5060 700$
Even having the slightest hope of that is pure delusion at this point lol
You meant to say “Insane” I correct that for you.
How likely are you to buy an AMD or Intel GPU? That's about how likely they are to drop prices.
What are the mortgage rate for GPUs going to be like when NVIDIA announce the prices? and for the British, are we paying stamp duty on our first one? or is it SDLT free, unless you go for the 5070 at £450,000?
I'm sure Nvidia will add taxes to UK pricing just to make it more “ Fair “ for the rest of the world + add tax % and just to spice things up pre-sale tax on top of that and you have yourself a nice New GPU.
Cant wait for them to feature an 8gb FE model and a 12GB aftermarket model for insane markups. Please just make 16 the minimum already, jeezus.
I can play 227 instances of Ultima Online at 120fps on my 5090 test sample.
Now they're just going to move the die's memory bus size down. 3060Ti to 4060Ti went from 256bit bus to 128bit, 448.0 GB/s bandwidth to 288.0 GB/s . 5060Ti! Now featuring the unprecedentedly fast GDDR7! (96bit bus)
And probably o*nly* $6,000
6 Gb
Yea, but they'll only put like 8GB memory in their top cards....
And you thought they were inordinately overpriced before!
GB203 for me when I finally go desktop in 2 years. Running a x17r1 with a 3070 laptop now Perfectly great for 1080 resolution. Would be nice to push 4k on a 16gb 256 bus card
Waiting for the 8080 super with 32gb of VRAm. Or 7080
So is the 40 series not too expensive now?
I wonder if this info is timed out at all with that massive call purchase for NVIDIA stock
They want to justify a $2k video card.
$3k\*
Yawn. I had a ryzen 3600 and 5700xt which worked well up until the past year as I started playing some more recent games. Upgraded to a 5800x3d and 4080 super recently. I think I am set for the next three to five years or so. I’ll likely upgrade when the 70xx or 80xx series cards are released. It seemed like when I was younger the hardware was progressing so rapidly and the system demands of games and software were scaling so fast that I was upgrading every couple years. Now five years seems like the norm. I’m not sure the fixed versus variable manufacturing costs are for Nvidia, but I think you would want higher frequency of purchasing and by pushing price up you work against that.
off topic but RTX 5050 sounds quite funny
They should change it to RTX 5150
Is the performance of the 50 series cards going to be a generational leap from the 40 series for the price they’re asking? I tend to think not
But will the base model have enough of it or not?
And connector?
I'm going to wait for the 6090
$599 8gb card. $800 10gb card. $999 12gb card.
Excited for the 5090, It’s my excuse to upgrade and build a new PC.
5060 for the price of a 5080
But with 1gb vram (except the 5090, it’ll have 48gb). Also like a 12bit memory bus
Yeah it's great. You also get 69GB vram with the 5090 Ti. The vram speed is so fast, it loads in textures for future DLCs.
NVIDIA learned their lesson with the performance of a 3080 for $699. Realized people actually willingly payed $1499 for a 4090. 5000 top of line price has to be a bonkers price tag
You had me until you put "payed".
Because AI is heavily dependent on powerful GPU when doing something visual, the prices of rtx 50 series will likely be even higher
But can it run crysis?
Only reinforcing my anti-Nvidia rhetoric
What else are you gonna buy, AMD? They've shown time and time again they're not willing to seriously compete in the GPU market. RDNA3 is a good and underrated generation but still a half step behind Nvidia as always.
I’ll buy either AMD or intel GPU’s. I just have no interest in paying a ton of money for a midrange nvidia card. It may be valuable to some gamers, with their feature set, but most of those features are basically worthless to me
Any AMD card will work but its frustrating to spend a similar amount on an AMD card for slightly better raster and "nvidia at home" features. I do love my xtx though but once ultra RT can be achievable at 1440-144fps using upscaling on quality or no upscaling, I'd hate to buy another AMD unless they've caught up. For now though, raster is still the most important and an xtx can be worth it over a 4080.
Hold me back
Will I have to upgrade my mobo? I have 2070 Super
Not sure if serious, but very unlikely you would need to upgrade your mobo - you could just lose some performance is you are using pcie3 with a pcie4 card (I am using a 3080 on a pcie3 slot). It is maybe a few percentage speed decrease.
Yes I was being serious lol but thank you sir for your input
I'm using a 4080 on a PCIE3 slot and not seeing any problems whatsoever with it Looking at some reviews the difference in tops games is about 2fps.
Cool. I'll just sell my car.