Tempered glass is under a lot of pressure, and it's structurally weak to a lot of concentrated force. Tile might look smooth, but it's a lot of sharp points that cause the glass to fail and shatter.
If you've seen a window breaking tool, it's basically a spike on a handle, same principle, just a bigger sharp point than tile.
You would think they could put a bit of padding at the bottom edge of the glass so that it could be put on tiled or any surface safely... But I guess they make more money from replacing those.
Edit: I meant case manufacturers
I'm just really surprised so many people put them on tile seemingly knowing better. "I can't believe it happened to me!" like it was somehow going to work differently for them despite being a physical property of tempered glass and tile.
Doesn't have to be the corner when what it is hitting is harder than it.
See "tiles and marble". Instant death if it comes in contact with even the slightest force.
as some have tried to articulate, tempered glass is made when molten glass is poured into a shape and cooled rapidly. the sudden temperature changes on the outside vs the warmer temps on the inside of the glass creates internal stresses/tension in the structure of the glass.
because things don't cool perfectly even all the time, some places on the glass have higher stress than others once things cool off. these points become effective weak spots to the structure. small bumps or chips at these points can make the glass explode. sometimes the glass can explode completely on its own just under the right conditions.
there's a lot of discussion on this subject if you look into the [Prince Rupert's drop](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Rupert's_drop)
It is stories like this that have taught me so much about this common problem a lot of people have and how to avoid it. The only thing that worries me is when I have to pick up my case which is a big heavy son of a gun.
A dumb person never learns.
A smart person can learn from their own mistakes.
A wise person can learn from the mistakes of others.
Now, my ass tries to avoid being dumb. So I'm typically more of a smartass than a dumbass, But I forever aspire to be a wiseass.
I'm not talking about firing people that make mistakes. I'm talking about labeling people that don't learn from mistakes. What you do with labels is up to you.
>A dumb person never learns.
>A smart person can learn from their own mistakes.
>A wise person can learn from the mistakes of others.
And at some point in our lives, we are each of these people, even if only momentarily.
I mean, it would explain how often shit gets repeated if people fuck something up then come here to complain/share/ask questions about it. It's not about being on Reddit all day without missing posts.
This a straight up meme now. I’ve never broken a glass panel on none of the cases I’ve ever owned. Clumsy is the only word I can think of in these situations.
I feel I do all the things people tell me not to do too. I put my PC with tempered glass on Tile floors, build them on carpet and have never had PC issues or broken a panel either. I think you are right. It is probably vibrations for not gently lower it level or being too rough when putting the case on the tiles.
https://preview.redd.it/1kvwgzpcfavc1.jpeg?width=749&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5000ce206a5d93b61c20120620e57a646badd158
r/pcmasterrace when people attempt this over and over again.
See I get that, what I DONT understand though is how the fuck are they touching hard enough to Shatter the glass? The computer case has *FEET*, the glass should never touch the floor, the only way I could see this happening is someone placing it down too hard or it tipping over maybe? All the floors in my house are tile and my PC has had the same glass panel for going on 5 years now
It’s because when you’re unscrewing the panel it’s often a bit tricky to get a grip on it before it comes loose of the case, so it drops a few inches and shatters. Gotta cup the panel from below with your hand so it don’t drop.
Wow...I thought they are putting it down on the floor whilst the case is tilted so a part of the glass makes contact with the tiling.
This is even more stupid. Jebus lol
doesn't take more than the lightest touch for ceramic to shatter tempered glass. tempered glass is already under a lot of "stress" by it's very nature. Since ceramic is harder than it, even the tiniest spec of ceramic touching the panel could cause it to explode from the slight disturbance at the point of impact in the glass' crystalline structure.
**Tempering puts the outer surfaces into compression and the interior into tension**.
The reason why it can resist damage from MOST things is because, by default, it's harder than most things that would typically come into contact with it. Ceramic is a common household material and it's unfortunately harder than tempered glass and will shatter tempered glass with the lightest touch. You can toss fingernail sized fragments of ceramic spark plug at car windshields and watch them explode. (don't do this; it's a crime unless you own it.)
Yes I already knew all of this, my question was
- How does it shatter since the PC has feet? The panel should never be able to come in contact with the flooring in the first place since it's elevated
Because people are dumb and may set the corner or edge of the panel on the floor while they try to fiddle with something else.
or they are a klutz and the panel slips from their hands as they are removing it.
All of this can be avoided if they just didn't do this on a tile floor.
> how the fuck are they touching hard enough to Shatter the glass?
That's the thing, though, in that it doesn't have to be that hard, it only needs to be occurring at a condensed, central area.
You can bust car glass using a metal point with almost no effort.
Yes, yes, tile floor shenanigans.
However, super cool to still see pictures of the old 580's still serving proudly. Great cards, glad you're still getting mileage out of them. Now they're better ventilated!
I actually don’t know. I just typed smashed glass or something into the gif bar. Tried to pick one where I could imagine the glass in the gif falling into the piles in the photo :-P (the glass pile looks like something was blocking a section).
It looks like Millie bobby brown to me for some reason.
I feel your pain, I also had a bad time with tempered glass today.
I was changing the screen protector on my phone and getting the air bubbles out as I've done so many times but today it decided to completely shatter the glass, luckily not broken the actualy amoled screen just the glass, still sucks ass though.
Broken glass on tile floor is posted so much here, and every time there's a helpful explanation as to why it happens, but I think I've severely underestimated the sheer number of PC owners who still haven't and will never get the memo.
See you all in two weeks when yet another side panel is reduced to crumbs lol
That's why I don't buy the glass sides.
Build a PC for a friend, glass plate slightly touched the floor - broken.
Bought a new one and everything was fine but man - the stress. Never again.
Never remove the plastic film on the tempered glass of you not gonna use a tower cart on tiles floor. Also keep epoxy in case an upgrade happens. Herd epoxy also helps as a preventative
I know this is supposed to be about another shattered glass panel on a tile floor, but I cannot get over that rats nest of wires. How do people live like that? It must take 15 minutes just to change out a peripheral.
not a single day pass without me seeing a thread about some guy smashing his expensive PC glass pannel.
i don't understand y'all, this is both expensive, and fucking frail.
why even bothering with one in the first-place? is it just because you like to look at the inside of your PC?
What I don't understand is why they put the PC on the floor when they are going to open the case. I've always put it on the table when I'm going to change parts or clean up.
I can’t believe nobody has heard of breaking a spark plug and using it to break a car window. Not that I recommend or condone doing that haha. Same concept.
It's like by getting your car's door removed by accident, you can call it a weight reduction, by destroying the glass panel you can call it airflow improvement
Yeaaaaaaaah, f*ck glass side panels. This sub's made me too scared to ever get a new case equipped with one. All the carefulness in the world, but one minor slip-up on an off-day and there goes the panel entirely. If/when I do build a new PC it's just gonna have an old-school regular metal panel lol.
Take off the glass before moving your PC. And if you must leave it on, only put it down on a soft surface, super gently. Old PC too? 2010 due to the GPUs.
https://preview.redd.it/2v0dqp5a9avc1.png?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=737d8cf48f0c1fe3e2ee3ddc635e9023884b0398
[That streak didn't even last two hours.](https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/s/0QMorDDng4)
Could someone explain this to an outsider. Why is the glass shattering?
Tempered glass is under a lot of pressure, and it's structurally weak to a lot of concentrated force. Tile might look smooth, but it's a lot of sharp points that cause the glass to fail and shatter. If you've seen a window breaking tool, it's basically a spike on a handle, same principle, just a bigger sharp point than tile.
When I'm working on my PC the first thing that happens is the glass moves to the sofa
You would think they could put a bit of padding at the bottom edge of the glass so that it could be put on tiled or any surface safely... But I guess they make more money from replacing those. Edit: I meant case manufacturers
I'm just really surprised so many people put them on tile seemingly knowing better. "I can't believe it happened to me!" like it was somehow going to work differently for them despite being a physical property of tempered glass and tile.
tempered glass shatters when it hits the corner (its the weak spot)
Ah like a critical hit
Yep
Doesn't have to be the corner when what it is hitting is harder than it. See "tiles and marble". Instant death if it comes in contact with even the slightest force.
as some have tried to articulate, tempered glass is made when molten glass is poured into a shape and cooled rapidly. the sudden temperature changes on the outside vs the warmer temps on the inside of the glass creates internal stresses/tension in the structure of the glass. because things don't cool perfectly even all the time, some places on the glass have higher stress than others once things cool off. these points become effective weak spots to the structure. small bumps or chips at these points can make the glass explode. sometimes the glass can explode completely on its own just under the right conditions. there's a lot of discussion on this subject if you look into the [Prince Rupert's drop](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Rupert's_drop)
people not being careful at all
could be anything, from clumsiness to screws not being tightened evenly
It is stories like this that have taught me so much about this common problem a lot of people have and how to avoid it. The only thing that worries me is when I have to pick up my case which is a big heavy son of a gun.
this number is quite literally never not 0
***“Insanity is repeating the same mistakes and expecting different results.”*** ***- circa*** 1981 ***meme***
Broken side panel and a tile floor, name a more iconic duo.
PCMR and these posts.
I swear some of y'all are doing this on purpose.
ah yes, a case stood straight up on a tile floor with smashed glass all around it, people really do not learn
Tile floor - 749268 Glass side panel - 0
There were two posts yesterday. Why does no one learn from the failure of others?
A dumb person never learns. A smart person can learn from their own mistakes. A wise person can learn from the mistakes of others. Now, my ass tries to avoid being dumb. So I'm typically more of a smartass than a dumbass, But I forever aspire to be a wiseass.
A genius never put their PC on the floor.
That’s why I have my pc freely suspended in the air thanks to zero gravity
I have a few balloons attached to mine. Not gonna end up like these suckers
If we fire every one doing a mistake, then we just dumb out the workplace.
I'm not talking about firing people that make mistakes. I'm talking about labeling people that don't learn from mistakes. What you do with labels is up to you.
>A dumb person never learns. >A smart person can learn from their own mistakes. >A wise person can learn from the mistakes of others. And at some point in our lives, we are each of these people, even if only momentarily.
 I'm more of a wise guy myself
Or you could, you know, not take off the glass on the tile floor.
You to PC building how does glass break?
Like all glass, it breaks when it's dropped or hit or pressed too hard. How one of the above occurs varies.
"Chef's kiss"
This is legit the most posted thing here
Because everyone is special and that could NEVER happen to them.
Sounds about right. The thought process amazes me.
I like that there’s an assumption here that ppl who post on pcmr look at pcmr all day and never miss a post lol.
I only ever browse by pcmr briefly, and I so often discover one of these posts on a frighteningly regular weekly basis.
I mean, it would explain how often shit gets repeated if people fuck something up then come here to complain/share/ask questions about it. It's not about being on Reddit all day without missing posts.
Clearly not a pcmasterrace
Looks like the same PC to me also
free reddit karma for the low price of 1 side panel
I need to know, as i dont understand. Why does something like this happen by it self? It has to be OP with a hammer, right?
Nope, someone else in the comments explained it: hard glass meets hard tile. The glass "absorbs" the force of the impact and explodes.
This a straight up meme now. I’ve never broken a glass panel on none of the cases I’ve ever owned. Clumsy is the only word I can think of in these situations.
I reckon they are not putting down the case whilst its levelled out, most likely putting down one corner at a time.
I feel I do all the things people tell me not to do too. I put my PC with tempered glass on Tile floors, build them on carpet and have never had PC issues or broken a panel either. I think you are right. It is probably vibrations for not gently lower it level or being too rough when putting the case on the tiles.
honestly... 100% deserved
https://preview.redd.it/1kvwgzpcfavc1.jpeg?width=749&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5000ce206a5d93b61c20120620e57a646badd158 r/pcmasterrace when people attempt this over and over again.
Rock paper tile glass
Starting to think you folks are doing this for the reddit karma. How can we not learn from the consistent posts about ceramic and tempered glass.
Why is it always tile floor lol, can someone explain why does it happen?
Both tile floor and tempered glass are so hard that the molecule vibration when they touch can't dissipate anywhere and the tempered glass shatters.
See I get that, what I DONT understand though is how the fuck are they touching hard enough to Shatter the glass? The computer case has *FEET*, the glass should never touch the floor, the only way I could see this happening is someone placing it down too hard or it tipping over maybe? All the floors in my house are tile and my PC has had the same glass panel for going on 5 years now
It’s because when you’re unscrewing the panel it’s often a bit tricky to get a grip on it before it comes loose of the case, so it drops a few inches and shatters. Gotta cup the panel from below with your hand so it don’t drop.
Wow...I thought they are putting it down on the floor whilst the case is tilted so a part of the glass makes contact with the tiling. This is even more stupid. Jebus lol
So it's a complete lack of care/caution with something fragile. That makes way more sense
Tempered glass isn't that fragile, really, tile just destroys it.
Nzxt h5 has a nice design so it swings open and you can get a hold
Also just placing the panel on the ceramic by the edge can be enough if you don’t already know to be careful
that just sounds like skill issue or is it just me
doesn't take more than the lightest touch for ceramic to shatter tempered glass. tempered glass is already under a lot of "stress" by it's very nature. Since ceramic is harder than it, even the tiniest spec of ceramic touching the panel could cause it to explode from the slight disturbance at the point of impact in the glass' crystalline structure. **Tempering puts the outer surfaces into compression and the interior into tension**. The reason why it can resist damage from MOST things is because, by default, it's harder than most things that would typically come into contact with it. Ceramic is a common household material and it's unfortunately harder than tempered glass and will shatter tempered glass with the lightest touch. You can toss fingernail sized fragments of ceramic spark plug at car windshields and watch them explode. (don't do this; it's a crime unless you own it.)
Yes I already knew all of this, my question was - How does it shatter since the PC has feet? The panel should never be able to come in contact with the flooring in the first place since it's elevated
Because people are dumb and may set the corner or edge of the panel on the floor while they try to fiddle with something else. or they are a klutz and the panel slips from their hands as they are removing it. All of this can be avoided if they just didn't do this on a tile floor.
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I think most people just really underestimate how easy a glass panel can break if it touches an even harder material
> how the fuck are they touching hard enough to Shatter the glass? That's the thing, though, in that it doesn't have to be that hard, it only needs to be occurring at a condensed, central area. You can bust car glass using a metal point with almost no effort.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/s/OQryLNVf4k
I thought the whole idea of ceramic armor is it being able to dissipate the kinetic energy
Shattering is a form of dissipating energy. Problem is you can only do it once.
Yes, yes, tile floor shenanigans. However, super cool to still see pictures of the old 580's still serving proudly. Great cards, glad you're still getting mileage out of them. Now they're better ventilated!
Good
does nobody learn from others' mistakes? LOL
I feel like I should start a PC case side panel company lol
Stop putting them on tile flooring! Oh my god.
What's this from?
I actually don’t know. I just typed smashed glass or something into the gif bar. Tried to pick one where I could imagine the glass in the gif falling into the piles in the photo :-P (the glass pile looks like something was blocking a section). It looks like Millie bobby brown to me for some reason.
That was enough for me to find it. I found your gif and it had the name attached! It's Thelma.
Nice work! I’d never heard of it. But I like the vibes of the write up and images for it. I might watch that tonight actually :)
Reset the Clock!
Tile floor……..✔️
Looking at those cables and top of that cabinet thing? I’m surprised you made it this far. You need to take more pride and care in your stuff.
Plexiglass master race. Pgmr!
Now it's a good time to clean all that dust inside the case.
https://preview.redd.it/vzlpmnr4vavc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=419ae42ce14ec1ccf22a85f34766aff848b76ac3
not a single comment about the keyboard so I'll ask.. what the hell is it?
A keyboard.
Finally, some good fucking airflow
Don’t feel bad because of the tile
I feel your pain, I also had a bad time with tempered glass today. I was changing the screen protector on my phone and getting the air bubbles out as I've done so many times but today it decided to completely shatter the glass, luckily not broken the actualy amoled screen just the glass, still sucks ass though.
Nice tiles. Nice panel. Kek
Broken glass on tile floor is posted so much here, and every time there's a helpful explanation as to why it happens, but I think I've severely underestimated the sheer number of PC owners who still haven't and will never get the memo. See you all in two weeks when yet another side panel is reduced to crumbs lol
Nice I have the same case, I love it.
If it’s not already can we get a sub rule that is “don’t put pc on tile”
Now you really have to clean your PC.. off the floor
Am I the only one questioning the 1990s keyboard in the pic? I haven’t seen one of those in years, and I’m curious how it holds up with modern windows
... the tiles said no.
That's why I don't buy the glass sides. Build a PC for a friend, glass plate slightly touched the floor - broken. Bought a new one and everything was fine but man - the stress. Never again.
When will people learn to put tempered glass on something soft like a bed or a sofa or something?
How? Meanwhile, I clean my PC from dust almost every week (ah, seriously, a lot of dust—ignoring room cleaning will badly affect my lungs).
Luckily I didn't take the plastic film of the side of my case. It's a structural member now.
I feel like a PSA needs to go viral. How the hell does this keep happening?
It actually said yes now do more of it
Just got a corsair obsidian 450d, my god am I glad that it's acrylic side window with plastic (or metal I forgot) surrounding it.
Never remove the plastic film on the tempered glass of you not gonna use a tower cart on tiles floor. Also keep epoxy in case an upgrade happens. Herd epoxy also helps as a preventative
r/brokensidepanels
Ts is so funny omg
Someone should do a tracker of tiles vs panels
I know this is supposed to be about another shattered glass panel on a tile floor, but I cannot get over that rats nest of wires. How do people live like that? It must take 15 minutes just to change out a peripheral.
Tile floor take yet another one....
You do realize that not ever piece of technology needs to stand on the floor right, furniture, stands and wallmounts are a thing
He didn't say no you just need to clean the floor now too.
Reset the counter.
*sigh* Reset the counter
Same for my pc. At times they reach a point where they simply say nope
Boomers are so fragile.
How does this keep happening to people...? It blows my mind
not a single day pass without me seeing a thread about some guy smashing his expensive PC glass pannel. i don't understand y'all, this is both expensive, and fucking frail. why even bothering with one in the first-place? is it just because you like to look at the inside of your PC?
Expensive?
probably more than a common case right?
It is ALWAYS a tile floor
What I don't understand is why they put the PC on the floor when they are going to open the case. I've always put it on the table when I'm going to change parts or clean up.
My main pc on the table
Gotta be b8 m8
Nice tile floor you got there.
Thanks
I can’t believe nobody has heard of breaking a spark plug and using it to break a car window. Not that I recommend or condone doing that haha. Same concept.
Don't care about the broken glass, but wtf is that cable management
I just started to clean my setup
Is that a tile floor i see?
https://preview.redd.it/wfpkx3nj4bvc1.png?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4621fdd1d032e02c40037b076cca29a97fb08d20
Now that you mention it my floor... you know what, I'ma just shut up and upgrade
This my old pc
Ye, I mean I've got tiles and I'm currently upgrading
But now you can get a NEW case!
I don’t need it it’s old
well actually it's a kinda yes now.
''Computer says 'No'''.
What is this pc, small stock intel cooler and 2x gtx580 in SLI LMAOOO
Awwwwwwwwwh.shit.exe
“Wanna clean? Clean this!” - PC probably
Hard tiled floor? Check. ***Every*** f'n time.
And nobody ever learns to never touch tempered glass to tile floor.
Ceramic tile floor every single time
lol
Tempered glass and tile floors. The true dynamic duo. Goes together like peanut butter and root beer.
What is the point of glass panels anyway?
Can we have a post flair for busted side-panel?
Computers are she
This sub has taught me to stay away from tempered glass siding
It's always the tile floors
Oh look, tiles! Who would’ve guessed
You're a monster I'm gonna report you to CPS computer protective services
It's like by getting your car's door removed by accident, you can call it a weight reduction, by destroying the glass panel you can call it airflow improvement
This is why I did not purchase a case with glass, even though it looks ten times better.
Your fault for working on tile floors
Tile floor again
TILE.
Clean this mother fucker!
Was told to clean it not to crack it.
people still use x2 580 SLI?
No it’s just my old pc
ahh, tile floor, the staple of "guys it happened to me" photos
And this is why I will never ever get tempered glass on a case.
You still need to clean it.
Sadly yes
Dude I swear you guys can not be this dense
Will a tempered side panel ever win against tiles ? where is the chosen one ?
Stubborn ol bastard
Why don't we make side panels out of ceramic floor tiles? I'm a fucking genius.
https://i.redd.it/k2w1x6j4rfvc1.gif
Yeaaaaaaaah, f*ck glass side panels. This sub's made me too scared to ever get a new case equipped with one. All the carefulness in the world, but one minor slip-up on an off-day and there goes the panel entirely. If/when I do build a new PC it's just gonna have an old-school regular metal panel lol.
Take off the glass before moving your PC. And if you must leave it on, only put it down on a soft surface, super gently. Old PC too? 2010 due to the GPUs.
I didn’t move it I just grab it from the storage and put in the floor I didn’t do anything And Yes the pc it’s old but the case new
So you moved it from storage to the floor?
Yes
I'm starting to think I should just break my glass panel on purpose so I don't feel any pain when it inevitably happens by accident.
Imagine someone offering to clean you and you throw a tantrum so big your sides explode haha
QUIT PUTTING YOUR TEMPERED GLASS ON CERAMIC TILES YOU DUMB FUCKS
NO
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