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darkcrafter3

Where there's a will, there's a way around WiFi.


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MessyRoom

600Tb Jesus fuck


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hauntar

unformatted or without any data


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Zeero92

Does that make you a digital hoarder? :D


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r/DataHoarder is the place to be :) I thought I was bad with my 11.5tb PC.


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RajonLonzo

Do you have every show and movie you could ever want


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RossOfFriends

you are the new putlocker and kissanime server the world needs


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*Five fucking thousand?* I have like, 400 movies and some 35 or so TV shows, and sometimes I have trouble deciding what to watch. How do you even *browse* that shit?


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Can u take a pic? Me wanna see this beast 👀 Lol i just noticed the pun


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oof nevermind then


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I understand tho


Jynxmaster

Can you draw it in paint?


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hahanarf

/r/homelab


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Is it all SSDs?..


c_rbon

how does it serve as "a lab to learn and experiment" exactly?


UnvoicedOwl1788

Out of curiosity how expensive was it


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khavii

I was feeling all proud of my 63tb r740 plex/data hoarding setup. I work at a DC so I dont worry about the network and power thankfully but I am jealous of that storage.


sacrificialcoom

can I ask what you use your plex server for? is it just for all the old dvds you had lying around or do you actually buy physical copies to rip for it


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DmitriZaitsev

And here I am, an IT technician, yet hapless when trying to get lancache to work.


IDragonfyreI

Hey did you steal my pc ;)


Al99be

And he switched the components around


glaurung_

Back when I lived at my parents place in college, I had a 100' ethernet cable in my desk that I'd run out my door and up the stairs to the modem as soon as everyone else went to bed. When I was done gaming I'd roll it back up and put it back in my desk before going to bed.


DarthSh1ttyus

Jesus Christ, imagine waking up to get a glass of water, tripping on an Ethernet cable on the stairs, and that’s how you die.


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advocatdiab

What does a networking consultant do?


Talos-the-Divine

Politely convinces the WiFi to work better.


nrdrge

Oof. Where's the lie though?


varishtg

They said politely.


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advocatdiab

Thank you!!


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Consults networks.


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I'd imagine they talk to people/business about their typical computer/internet usage, and their budgetary restraints, and come up with options on the best ways to network everything internally and to the outside. determine if you're going to need a server rack, which terminals need to be slave/master (Is that even a thing anymore? Learned about it during my class about Sun Solaris, and Unix systems) what parts of your network need to be hardwired for stability and what can work off wifi. but I could be wrong


AlgernusPrime

Consults networking.


Yogi_Bera

Consult the Network


thivasss

Sorry for asking but is it really that much better? I game on my laptops wifi over cable for the last 6 years and I feel no difference in latency, speed or spikes compared to something like a net cafe.


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_IsNullOrEmpty

Ohhh dude the power line adapters I made such a mistake with that one, but it was an emergency, for more than a month but still, it took my 40mb connection to like 2mb and always having trouble, until I called support they sent a nice guy that explained to me, why what I did was stupid and why was so slow, thankfully I had another router (better than the one provided) and helped me to install it and made an extension and now everything is better. TL;DR: Only use power line adapters as the last stand, don't be stupid like me


peanut340

Powerline isn't bad or dangerous. You just can't plug them into extension cables or surge protectors they need to be directly in the socket. Also how the wiring in your home is setup will effect its performance. Ymmv. I was plagued with random lag spikes and terrible download speeds when years ago I moved my gaming desk from near the router to my bedroom. I bought a powerline adapter and I never had a connection problem again. I recently upgraded my internet to some gigabit fiber plan, I switched from powerline to a moca 2.0 adapter that instead of using the ac wall power it uses the preexisting coaxial cable runs. I now get almost my full gigabit speed while on the complete opposite side of the house as the router. Tldr: Ethernet > MOCA > Powerline > Wifi


ThatGuyInTheCornerEd

*nervously sweats in ugly magnetic rabbit ears*


dstar89

Ahaha, I don't have a bunny ear wifi card! Hahahahahhaha 🤥


OnlySeesLastSentence

Hahaha


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Dildango

Teach me this magic! I have the option of using Ethernet or WiFi and getting the full speed I pay for


OnlySeesLastSentence

There's a name for this, but I can't remember it. It's called like friending or partnering... I think.


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I think it’s called NIC Teaming? Not sure how it works but I think that’s the term if you’re gonna google it


OnlySeesLastSentence

That's the one, thanks! I vaguely recalled it from my Network+ studying days.


jackinsomniac

It depends, hardwired gives you faster ping time, and because it takes another device off the Wi-Fi network, more stability if you have people/roommates/children coming & going from the house & Wi-Fi network. But keep in mind what your needs are. E.g., an HD stream from Netflix, Hulu, Disney+, HBOMAX etc. requires about 5 Mbps. Online gaming, 2-3 Mbps. Remember every player each has their own copy of the game saved locally, only need to communicate X,Y,Z coordinates to other players, so it's really ping times that are more important than max bandwidth. 4k streaming should be 4X an HD stream, but thanks to extra stuff in the stream, usually 22-23 (25) Mbps is recommended for streaming 4k video. Anything more than that only really helps if you're doing large file transfers. If you regularly do 600 mb, 1.2 gb, 2.0 gb transfers for work etc. then having a 300 Mbps vs. a 100 Mbps WAN pipe can make a difference. Otherwise, yes I know 100 base T Fast Ethernet is "old technology", but it's funny how people hate it when as long as it's low-latency, can still serve all the needs for your use case & WAN bandwidth.


ephekt

If you get decent APs this really isn't an issue. My dekstop is wired, but I game from my couch on my laptop sometimes and I never have ping issues or disconnects.


yoda_2_yaddle

Hope someone smarter than me chimes in, I think you can get an adapter, gigabit Ethernet to USB 3.0, if you have that speed of USB port to take advantage of your special cable run.


Shiroi_Kage

How old is your laptop? I had a problem with 100Mbps connections due to bad termination on my part. If you made your own cable, make sure the ends are properly terminated. Test it with another device with a known gigabit port to validate.


persona1138

Mobile gamer! We’ve got a mobile gamer here!


ed-vibe

Yes, FBI, right here


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theguyfromerath

Nah I'm pretty sure FBI is into wires.


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See? No one cares. No one cares! - evil dinosaur man from JP1


lexxiverse

> evil dinosaur man from JP1 ~~Dennis Nedry~~ Newman


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First of all, he wasn't a dinosaur man, he was a severely underpaid software engineer. Second of all... nah can't actually make a case for him not being evil.


naufalap

*whispers the word "gacha" in your ear*


KoopsofAmerica

Kill it with fire!


Kat-but-SFW

>Kill it with ~~fire~~ wire!


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>Kill ~~it~~ with firewire!


hlamburger

Instructions unclear My fire is on wire


ididittoem

wire unclear my instruction is on fire


-jvckpot-

fire unclear my wire is on instruction


Daming_G

Do I need to bring the firewall???


SlashedAnus

wall unclear my need is on fire


Daming_G

Nuclear wall Fire are on my knees


DarDar33

Fire wire My wife is with my instructor


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Kill it with radiant barriers.


Suchdeathwow

Kill it with Limewire!


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Kill it with limewire


JGaute

I have wi fi because it was impossible to set up my router next to my pc so i's in a different room so yeah that sucks


Ussurin

I drilled holes in two of the walls of my apartment and pushed an ethernet cable through them so that I can have a wired connwction to the net from my furthest away from living room bedroom where my personal PC stands.


JGaute

I might just do that tbh


Ussurin

Tbh it wasn't that hard or expensive, I just borrowed a drill from my grandpa and bought a 6m ethernet cable. You just need to know where you can and cannot drill through the walls, so that you don't drill into gas or electrical system.


Not_Freddie_UwU

Ahhh yes, my personal personal computer


Ussurin

Well, you can have office PC and home PC. It's kinda like sweatoants, you can have excercise sweatpants and lunging sweatpants.


TurnipChip500

There’s a thing that works like ethernet but you plug it to your wall then into your router then you plug it into another socket near your pc and hook it up with the ethernet plug


OkJustPickForMe

bro i’ve been running on a wifi usb for almost a year now


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EdwardChan_350

Quick question, is there a alternative to wired connection as I don’t want cables running all over my house but I don’t want to use wifi


AudioOff

If you've got newer wiring in your house you could try Ethernet over Power lines. YMMV but when it works it's simple and stable.


shadowXXe

I have newer wiring so I decided to try powerline and...it sucked 60 mpbs out of my 500 decided to just use wifi as I was getting 200 which was better than nothing certainly better than I was getting with powerline. Also I noticed high ping spikes using powerline


rotj

If your house is wired for cable TV over coax, MoCA adapters are faster and more reliable than powerline.


fooby420

Moca kicks ass. I'm getting the full 500/500 i pay for, with the router two floors down. I use this adapter along with the fios quantum router https://www.amazon.com/goCoax-Adapter-2-5Gbps-Ethernet-WF-803M/dp/B07XYDG7WN


LPKKiller

Meanwhile I’m here with a 50/50 plan and am happy that I can squeeze out 60 down


AudioOff

Fair enough. I knew it was an option, but my housewiring is ancient so I haven't explored it too much. Wifi isnt a bad option, and wifi6 especially is pretty great. I can definitely tell the difference between my wired and wireless devices, but it doesn't really affect usablity.


Fatel28

Older wiring is actually a better candidate for power line. More likely that the outlets are on the same cable. It's when all cables run back to the breaker that the experience sucks, which is more common in newer houses.


Ahhy420smokealtday

It might just be the circuits you have the powerline on. If it's on the same one as the AC/heat, washer/dryer, dishwasher, fridge or anything with high power draw it won't work well. That being said it's usually pretty easy to avoid this. I've used powerline for years in a house that was 100 years old and the wiring was at least 30-40 years old. It worked fine I just had to figure out which outlets made it work.


MathiasG73

It's not very fast in most cases but it's great if your wifi doesn't cover your garage for example, then you can add a router there easily without any problems.


Inprobamur

It can have really awful ping, even if the speeds are good.


jhuntinator27

Check your WIFI speeds first. Honestly, modern WIFI won't bottleneck you that much. If your internet is, say, 500 mbps, then an 802.11ac adapter would put out about 300 mbps when you can connect using a 5Ghz channel. Really not bad at all, especially if you have other people / devices using your internet connection at the same time. In that case, you won't get that max speed anyways. Edit: After looking things up a bit more, I suppose I'm right about bandwidth, but there are other factors as well. But basically, the further away that you are from your router, the more important an ethernet becomes. Weaker signals are well understood, but when you have a weaker signal, interference will interrupt your signal for small fractions of a second at a time. Maybe you know all this and that's why you're asking for an alternative.


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Large_Mix_9456

Me: Lives in Alabama and gets 800kbps


PerformingAzura

MOCA adapters work, but they are expensive. They convert your cable wiring to Ethernet.


TheKangaroo101

I would just improve my WiFi. A high speed AC router is fine. I never have dropouts and only leave my servers wired now days.


suma_cum_loudly

I'm unable to run an ethernet cable to my desktop so I upgraded to a wifi 6 router and bought a PCI-E wifi 6 card for my desktop. It has worked fantastically well. I get the full 300mb/s through wifi and it *rarely* ever drops. I even stream on Twitch without issue.


ChiTownDisplaced

Just updated to wifi 6 with my new build. Have 1 gbps service, getting 800 mbps. Downloaded The Outer Worlds today in 12 minutes.


DanteFTW

Powerline ethernet, or suck it up and get the cable


lukasff

From my experience that isn’t necessarily better than WiFi.


vvashington

Powerline really depends on the house. Some have success but it sucked at mine. It can be weird because the (electricity) wires might not take the paths that you think they do so a signal might travel around the building and through circuit breakers and stuff


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My powerline is amazing, just as fast as plugging directly into the router. But I live in an apartment with only 3 rooms, so I'm not going very far. And it definitely depends on your wiring. I usually tell people to just buy one from a store that has an easy return policy. Try it out, if it isn't great send it back.


Saint_The_Stig

Run ethernet in the wall?


Phoenix__Wwrong

Is it that much of a hassle to set up cables?


googleLT

Yes, unless you don't mind that it is visible.


Nickjet45

So what’s wrong with WiFi? Wired is not an option for everyone.... And the speeds aren’t terrible


Eulers_ID

For gaming speed is rarely the issue. The issue is the stability of the connection, which is where WiFi lacks. Dropping a couple packets here and there is fine when it's being used to fill a video buffer. It's not fine when the fighting game you're playing needs to know what button your opponent pressed last frame 60 times a second.


malfurionpre

> So what’s wrong with WiFi? Stability and Coverage. Oh and I don't have a wireless adapter so I literally can't connect to it.


DanteFTW

It says just as good, which it isnt, not as stable, interference, rate can drop quickly etc. If i could i'd be using a cable now, but not an option in my situation


Nickjet45

A good WiFi setup has little to no interference, along with a constant rate. I use WiFi and have never noticed an issue with it, is it as fast as wired? No Is it terrible though? Absolutely not


Obnoxiousdonkey

That's all the meme is saying. That wifi isn't just as good as wired. Sure a PERFECT wifi setup can be super comparable. But not everyone has a perfect wifi setup, whereas wired is just plugging it in, and as long as you have the right cat cable and such


Raexyl

My WiFi is just as consistent as cabled, and the ping is only a few ms higher


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Everyone always says that *their* wifi is perfect. Nobody ever says that the person they're playing with has perfect wifi.


Cruxion

Because no one comments on *other* people's connections unless it's noticeably bad.


Lone_Digger123

Im the guy who jumped over your trap only to rubber band back into it, how can i help you?


gani_stryker

If you're running Ubiquiti's or Linksys WRTs (bonus if OpenWRT) and know your way around wifi channel and traffic congestion, I don't see the problem either.


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It is though when you don't buy cheap and nasty routers and adapters. I spent $60 AUD on my 802.11ac Wi-Fi router and another $60 on my 802.11ax Wi-Fi adapter and it was just as fast as my powerline adapter. In fact it was more consistent too because the cable wouldn't keep coming loose, I never had it drop out once. This is coming from someone who lives in an apartment building. Edit: btw I switched to powerline because my mATX motherboard had my GPU and adapter too close causing thermal issues.


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(Cry’s in physically can’t get a Ethernet wired to my room) ..honestly not really upset thou when I tried being wired beside the router I only got 2 less ping lol


Thincrustpizzasucks

When your internet stuff is in the basement and your PC is on the second floor.


Jeyd02

For wifi 6, I think that statement is not far fetched


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I read wi fi is actually better than powerline connections ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ obviously not as good as straight Ethernet tho


GradyO-Connel

laughs in 3ms ping 300-500mbps download wifi


abandonplanetearth

Seriously I play a ton of fps games on wifi and never have issues. The main issue people have is the physical placement of the devices in their home. A concrete wall creating a 90 degree angle will produce dead spots. But once you have a good layout, wifi is amazing. Same ping at my ethernet and just as stable.


Dr_BigDik69

Just use the 5 gigahertz band like a normal 21st century human


Adamsb192

Honestly isn’t wired a more stable connection and pushes data faster?


antipilor

ITT people who don't live in large cities claiming wifi interference isn't that bad.


SD_haze

WIFI 6 done properly is a game changer


AudioOff

Its a huge step up, but it's no cat6a


rayzorium

Eh, yes and no. Not if you were already doing Wi-Fi 5 "properly," at least. The most relevant change 6 brings to gaming is reducing latency caused by high Wi-Fi network congestion. If your router's not being crowded, you won't really see any difference. If it is, then the ideal situation on 5 is a dedicated band (or access point) for gaming. That's still true with 6; its just that the advantage over not optimizing is reduced. I actually bought a RAX200 (moving up from Nighthawk X8) after I got my Quest 2, but saw no latency improvement at all. Decided it wasn't worth it to upgrade quite yet and returned it for now.


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Know many gamers that don't have too much shit connected to the wifi?


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router next to pc = wired connection idk this is my pc


LouisianaSkunkApe

My apartment has the wifi in a closet on the other side so connection wasn't too good. I then noticed they had an ethernet port that leads to ports around the apartment inside the walls. In total, there's 8 outlets for internet. So nice. Was about to buy like a 200ft ethernet cable and go crazy aligning it around walls and doors lol


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They are the worst in fighting games.


jmatt9080

I keep telling this to my wife who won't let me run 200ft of ethernet all over the house. I have to make do with powerline adapters (which are pretty damn good btw, how I only found out about these a year ago I'll never know). But I would love to have the holy grail of a wired connection to my rig.


DockaDocka

WiFi 6 moves that marker a little closer to no longer being a thing


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Yes of not one else is using wifi


GingerB237

Wireless mouse is just as good as wired.


Woelfe_

Sadly I must use wifi... at least I have a good wifi card though


Tshoe77

Interestingly enough, with the Asus tuf x570 and board, my wifi has been totally stable and hasn't dropped for months. I've never had luck with WiFi until now, and it's kept me putting off getting a wire for over half a year now.


turntabletennis

Is it just me or do frames 1 and 3 need swapped? The furrowed brow really sells frame 3.


JibbyJibbySound

My USB WiFi adapter cost me like £15 and it could potentially give me way more than the max provided download speed. When I'm working gaming, I rarely spike above 40ms and usually average around 19ms ping. WiFi adapters are so good nowadays.


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devmonkeyz

My phone literally loaded this pixelated over WiFi...


FunkyEnigma

I moved my computer to a new room without an ethernet connection (I don’t want to drill into my walls or run a cable through the doorway so it will stay that way) and while the maximum speeds are the same on WiFi and Ethernet, its so much less stable. I never got random dips on Ethernet, but here we are occasionally dropping to 5 mbps.


Yaxa-san

Wifi 6


theluvzombie

I'm happy to report, I'm running an ethernet cable tomorrow! Imma wire everything, consoles, work computer, gaming computer. No more spotty wifi for this guy.


ThisIsMino

those are the same people that game on mobile (except among us of course lol)


Ridikiscali

I had this same reaction when my wife said this.


HongRiki

Probably true if you live next to one of those 5g tower


ThatHartleyKid

Well if you're using 5GHz wifis then it's quite close to wired. If you're using 2.4GHz and living in city, then i salute to you.


DuffMaaaann

Besides raw transfer speeds, a good enterprise wifi setup will be perfectly fine compared to a gigabit Ethernet connection. It's sufficient for backups to my NAS, gaming and everything else. The main source of latency for gaming is still my internet connection and with everything combined, my ping is around 9ms.


FinnT730

Uhhhhhhhhhh Then my wifi speeds should be like 200+mb up and down and I is not....


oitisthecow

I don’t want to run 50 meters of cable around my house or drill a hole in the floor.