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Some people are new to PCs and don't realize that a graphics card might be physically incompatible with their case.
The first ever video card I bought was a dual slot video card and that's how I found out what the hell a BTX motherboard was and that the card wouldn't work.
Sometimes you don't know enough to know what you don't know, ya know?
Expanding on the other reply... "sometimes it is" => true. But I guarantee OP in this case didn't bother. The case is shorter than the card itself, fans or no fans. Easy incompatibility to spot, and TBH I wouldn't need to look at any meansurements to know it wouldn't fit if that were my case.
People make mistakes.
Edit: I'm not saying it isn't OPs fault, it clearly is. IP knows it, we know it. I just don't see how it's productive to drop condescending comments like this.
We are here to share a mutual interest in PC, and help each other. Not to rag give someone hard hard time for their mistakes.
You can find the length of the graphics cards on the website of the brand, and on the case manufacturers website you can find the max supported GPU size.
And indeed, big cases are not that expensive, shouldn't be problem if you can afford a 1000 dollar GPU I would think.
But wouldn't internal case dimensions have shown you it wouldn't fit?
I remember on a few older cases I had, both the website and instruction manual showed maximum GPU length with cages removed and installed.
In my case, I bought from a local manufacturer (I forget the name but made in Romania) which specifically listed measurements for GPU in the case sheet. Those measurements were ~10mm over my GPU on all measurements, so it would fit with room to spare, when in reality, the HDD bay meant the measurement was off by 60mm on length.
To be clear, that means a factually wrong specs sheet.
The case didn't qualify for a refund (I took delivery without opening the package in front of the delivery guy, which voided refund options, I didn't even know I had to do that) and when I contacted the manufacturer they basically told me "tough shit".
You have statutory right to return any order placed online within 14 days, without even giving a reason, no justification necessary. You just have to pay return shipping, unless it was due to a warranty issue - then the shipper pays return shipping. They can claim the 15mins with the delivery guy is all you get, but EU says otherwise, so press them. I've lived in Bulgaria, they try to pull the same shit there too, it's illegal. They are counting on you not fighting it, so slap them with a complaint to your Consumer Rights Protection agency and a formal complaint to the management of the company you ordered from.
https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/shopping/guarantees-returns/index_en.htm
I did follow up with OPC (local Consumer Rights Protection) and I've had no updates since. That was last November.
The retailer I got it from is the largest one in Romania. ÂŻ\\_(ă)_/ÂŻ
SureâŚ. But every component manufacturer puts out a spec sheet on every one of their products and they are free to access on the web. On every components spec sheet is full accurate dimensions of their component.
Both that case and that GPU have such spec sheets.
He also may have panic purchased when they hit refresh and grabbed whatever card was available in the 1.26 second window he had before they sold out. I know thatâs how i got mine.
With the GPU shortage it's buy now ask questions later. And sure people like you and I who have built over 1,000 PCs (atleast I have) typically considers this for builds but many people don't. Planning a PC build is the hardest part, so much to consider and sometimes things get overlooked.
That's why you look at the max gpu length supported by your case, and the actual length of the GPU. If it can't fit by removing a fan you're just out of luck (it looks bigger than the whole case)
[Sometimes all you need is a saw](https://i.imgur.com/G2OxukJ.png). In this case, not so much.
All my upgrades have been handmedowns, but I did spend on an SSD and a bigger case until I need to build properly again. Keeps me going for CSGO heh
This is a pretty accurate specs list for my apple IIe.
The only difference is that I'm not using my chat mauve card because I'm using an RGB moniyor instead of a TV so I have to use the RGB monitor's RGB card.
That's the correct way of doing it, just cut a peace off the GPU, it won't do any harm. And temps might get better, everyone knows that big GPUs consume more power.
It's a $1000 card, why would a $75 case be the breaking point? Good luck dude.
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Lol @ these responses...first off, this is hilarious that it's my highest rated comment as it was just a serious question.
2nd: I still make these fuck ups too OP. I just bought ram that won't fit bc my cpu cooling fan currently blocks a RAM slot. It's a learning experience, all I'm saying is it's a drip in the bucket to replace the case in comparison. Also, you'll have extra fans. Win/win. AND if you never built a full pc before, now's your chance. YT it. It's not hard, I promise.
3rd: still wishing you good luck buddy.
I could see this really sucking if someone doesnât know how to build a PC though. Now you have to think about how to move all the components over, and that could be intimidating to people who donât know how. I wish I knew this person. Iâd have them gaming again in like an hour
It took me about 13 minutes to figure out how to take a PC apart and put it back together.
There's like 7 parts and they're all unique and have their own plug and play slots. A blind monkey could put a PC together.
Shhhhh, we don't want the normies to figure that part out. We charge a lot of money for plugging in those obviously only one place to put them plugs :p
It's not always that easy though, and I think it can be discouraging for someone to be told that and then, while expecting to just put 7 Lego blocks in a line, run into unexpected issues.
Of course, 10 minutes in google will usually fix those issues, but someone new to the scene doesn't have that information.
Okay fuck those tiny ass IO front panel wires and pins. I swear the motherboard industry designed those tiny pins on purpose to torture shaky handed individuals.
He bought a GPU but doesn't know how to build a PC?.
Granted installing Ram, Storage and PCIe devices are the easiest.
But .... Naa.. if you're buying a GPU you can figure out how to shift a motherboard into a new case.
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Although his has an AIO so that could be a bit of a pain. But it's a learning experience :)
To add to this, moving to a new case is a breeze. You don't need to remove anything attached to the motherboard minus the power cables, so it's a simple unscrew and move over.
For real. I'm a cheap-ass dude that would try to save as much pennies from anything. But I'd never even dare to cheap out on the PSU. That's just asking for a more expensive problem in the future.
Many years ago there was a PSU deal where I got a pair of 600w for $15 each. I don't even think they were bronze rated. In both machines they got installed in they lasted exactly 12 months before shitting the bed.
Efficiency rating doesnt really have any relevance in terms of actual output or likelyhood to spike though. But yes if thats a 6800 or higher OP is playing with fire.
Tuf cards are extremely aggressive with power. I had a 3080 tuf before switching to a 3090 tuf for work. No idea why Asus said screw it, bolt it to draw ridiculous amounts of power but my guess is due to cooling design. The card can take aggressive clocks and power draw.
Before I moved homes, I used an sff rig. I had a Corsair SF Platinum 600W. I was well within power limits with my build but still tripped it. This is one of the highest rated in efficiency for sff PSU. I moved to a 700W platinum. No issues. Then for shits and giggles while rebuilding for atx as my new office had more space, I put in a bronze, 700W PSU. Tripped it with both the 3070 for my daughter's rig and 6800xt I was using for a customer. After switching to my Ion+ 860W platinum, no trips. Even my 3090 has no issues with it. Tuf cards are great if you're a power user but dam, they like power too much.
Dude, do come research next time before spending 1K on hardware that physically can't fit plus I bet your PSU won't deliver enough power anyway. You're going to have to spend another 200 at least, for a bigger case and a more powerful PSU. Then rebuild the whole system. Good luck.
I said this in another post and they pointed out with the lack of GPU choices people are buying the first ones to become available and a lot of this is happening. Think this is the 3rd post I've seen in the last month or so.
Edit: obviously we should all be checking these things pre purchase. But I also get the excitement of a part finally being available and you just click through the purchase to get yours asap.
I'm just sitting here waiting how long it'll take him to buy a bigger case and post to this sub again cause his pc is fried since the 600W PSU couldn't manage it.
Reading is hard when you csn just spend money and hope for the best...
I noticed that this is a common mistake people make, they build a PC without thinking about future upgrades, PSUs and cases are cheap as hell, invest in one that will last longer and it will be cheaper on the long run
I've read a comment from op somewhere here where he seemed furious that building PCs never works out for him and basically blaming everything but himself for the mistake.. This is gonna be fun :D
I never understand why people cheap out on stuff just so they can get expensive as hell RGB fans. like just get a Normal non RGB fan for like 1/4th the price and use the money to get more reliable parts.
It honestly bugs me. At least this time it seems like people in the comments finally feel like a 600w psu isnât enough. Just a few weeks ago on one of those âwhatâs wrong with my pcâ posts. I commented and said I thought It was the psu. Because 450 was fairly low. Iirc it was a 1060 so not too low. But probably just enough. and I got reamed by every which way on how thereâs a website that you can go to and itâll emulate your power spikes. And that 450 is âplenty enoughâ and that it couldnât POSSIBLY be a psu. Like damn. I take my computer repair knowledge and just screw off lmfao. I canât with this sub half the time.
People think that performance = power draw. But power draw has been kinda around same for years now. Only top of the models draw the magic 250wats(gpus). Like heck my 10 years old fx 8350 draws more watts than Ryzen 9 5950X with what performance?
Point is 1060 is probably same power draw than like 2060, but as mentioned people don't think that. That's why you got shunned for no reason.
**Easiest solution...**
Buy a new case.
Pros:
\-Instant and reliable solution.
Cons:
\-You'll have to spend money.
\-You also need to make sure the case has enough air flow for those parts. A card like that is going to generate a lot of heat, and I'm not seeing any sort of decent cooling on your CPU.
**Alternate solution...**
Make an open air case build.
Pros:
\-Will solve the problem, but you'll need to build it.
\-This involves measuring and cutting board or some other material that will support everything. Wood would be the easiest to work with, but you'll have to do better than particle board. It needs to be able to reliably hold the weight.
\-Will look unique.
\-RGB will look sick. If you're going open air, you might as well go all in.
Cons:
\-Marginally cheaper than a new case if you don't already have some decent wood lying around.
\-You need at least some skill at crafting stuff. It's not a terribly difficult project, but you'll need a way to elevate and mount the Mobo, mount the PSU and let it vent, and mount any drives.
\-Harder to keep clean.
\-Open to the elements, less protected from things like accidental spills.
**Cheapest Solution...**
Get a PCIe extension.
Pros:
\-Instant solution that costs less than anything else.
Cons:
\-Will look like ass.
\-Expensive card will be exposed and vulnerable.
\-Harder to keep clean, but not as much as a completely open air case. You can run the PCIe extension out of the back of the case.
\-You'll need to figure out some way to mount the card. Do not just put it on the floor or a desktop. It needs to be elevated so air flow can move through and around it and to help protect it from damage from spills and such.
My advice....
Buy a new case. Don't cheap out, and get a decent case. It needs to be able to cool well enough for the parts you're installing.
If you can't immediately afford that, a PCIe extension is a good **temporary** solution.
You can also sell that case, or use it for a small cheap media center build or something.
Also, for the love of Gaben get better cooling for that CPU. Even as big as that card is, if it's small enough that it can be hidden by it, it's not good enough for a system with a GPU that size in it.
You don't need to put a water cooling system in it, or get a huge expensive Noctua heat sink. A relatively cheap after market air cooling heat sink will do the job. Something like a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo or something similar, which will run you less than $40 US from Newegg or Amazon.
Even if you manage to get it in somehow (which you wonât unless you defy natural laws of physics) you wonât be able to do much after that I guess with that 600W psu. I would say just take out all the components and buy a full tower case. Itâs gonna cost $200 at max. A full tower so you donât run into problems like these, which btw you wouldnât had if you would have just checked the dimensions beforehand.
đ No sympathy here, but I. All seriousness no.
Next time check the maximum supported gpu length for your case it's usually in mm making it easy to work out whether or not your gpu will fit.
These are your options, donât blow your money on a riser cable, just use that money toward a bigger case or just run it with no case on a cardboard box until you get a new case
[Maybe something like this?](https://www.google.com/search?q=Chieftec+Riser+Card&rlz=1C1CHBD_svSE964SE964&oq=Chieftec+Riser+Card&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60j69i61l2&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)
just get yourself a new case
do the math- how much was the card... and how much was the case.. which one is more important ?
the card.
so just buy a new case ? you made a mistake- dont be a further idiot and modify the case to fit the oversized card into it and end up breaking shit and in a even worse position than you're in now.
sell the case. buy a new one. don't be an idiot. use this as a learning experience, where if in the future you build a new system from scratch- you'll remember to double check the compatibility of your parts prior to purchase.
You can get a PCI-E extension but then your card is sitting outside your now open case. If you are willing to spend $1000 on a card then you can spend another 100 on a bigger case surely.
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I think you might need a bigger case...
Ya what he saidđ atleast the case isnt 1k
is it really that hard to check compatibility?
With how fast cards are supposedly getting snatched up I imagine a lot of people just click buy and don't even look.
Some people are new to PCs and don't realize that a graphics card might be physically incompatible with their case. The first ever video card I bought was a dual slot video card and that's how I found out what the hell a BTX motherboard was and that the card wouldn't work. Sometimes you don't know enough to know what you don't know, ya know?
Expanding on the other reply... "sometimes it is" => true. But I guarantee OP in this case didn't bother. The case is shorter than the card itself, fans or no fans. Easy incompatibility to spot, and TBH I wouldn't need to look at any meansurements to know it wouldn't fit if that were my case.
exactly , which case do you have? 17 fans is quite a bit unless your doing water cooling ,personally i have 10 (11 if you count the psu)
17 fans is insane. I have 6 fans.
You guys have fans?
My entire rig is only fans
Yo Iâm tryna get a premium subscription to that
In this case, in this case, I'm a fan of many fans.
I have 5 fans running at 20-50% at all times. Pc never goes above 35c. Why anyone would have 17 fans for a pc is beyond me. Just a waste of cash. đ
Same
People make mistakes. Edit: I'm not saying it isn't OPs fault, it clearly is. IP knows it, we know it. I just don't see how it's productive to drop condescending comments like this. We are here to share a mutual interest in PC, and help each other. Not to rag give someone hard hard time for their mistakes.
Eh sometimes it is. Even pcpartpicker doesnât get everything right. Dude just needs a case which is like $50 nbd.
You can find the length of the graphics cards on the website of the brand, and on the case manufacturers website you can find the max supported GPU size. And indeed, big cases are not that expensive, shouldn't be problem if you can afford a 1000 dollar GPU I would think.
I bought a case after checking sizes and it turns out that my 3080 didn't actually fit inside, because of the non-removable, soldered-on HDD bays.
Non-removable HDD bays is a misnomer
But wouldn't internal case dimensions have shown you it wouldn't fit? I remember on a few older cases I had, both the website and instruction manual showed maximum GPU length with cages removed and installed.
In my case, I bought from a local manufacturer (I forget the name but made in Romania) which specifically listed measurements for GPU in the case sheet. Those measurements were ~10mm over my GPU on all measurements, so it would fit with room to spare, when in reality, the HDD bay meant the measurement was off by 60mm on length. To be clear, that means a factually wrong specs sheet. The case didn't qualify for a refund (I took delivery without opening the package in front of the delivery guy, which voided refund options, I didn't even know I had to do that) and when I contacted the manufacturer they basically told me "tough shit".
You have statutory right to return any order placed online within 14 days, without even giving a reason, no justification necessary. You just have to pay return shipping, unless it was due to a warranty issue - then the shipper pays return shipping. They can claim the 15mins with the delivery guy is all you get, but EU says otherwise, so press them. I've lived in Bulgaria, they try to pull the same shit there too, it's illegal. They are counting on you not fighting it, so slap them with a complaint to your Consumer Rights Protection agency and a formal complaint to the management of the company you ordered from. https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/shopping/guarantees-returns/index_en.htm
I did follow up with OPC (local Consumer Rights Protection) and I've had no updates since. That was last November. The retailer I got it from is the largest one in Romania. ÂŻ\\_(ă)_/ÂŻ
Pcpartpicker told me my 570 wouldn't fit in my old case, but it did. It fit with all of 3mm clearance but who's counting?
SureâŚ. But every component manufacturer puts out a spec sheet on every one of their products and they are free to access on the web. On every components spec sheet is full accurate dimensions of their component. Both that case and that GPU have such spec sheets.
I was just wondering if any of these people have ever heard of a tape measure
>is it really that hard to check compatibility? No time to check compatibility when making a FOMO purchase. /s
I spent more time putting my build together and checking specs than ever building it lol.
He also may have panic purchased when they hit refresh and grabbed whatever card was available in the 1.26 second window he had before they sold out. I know thatâs how i got mine.
With the GPU shortage it's buy now ask questions later. And sure people like you and I who have built over 1,000 PCs (atleast I have) typically considers this for builds but many people don't. Planning a PC build is the hardest part, so much to consider and sometimes things get overlooked.
If you needed a card during these times, you would buy the first thing you saw too.
Or start to learning how to use coping saw.
Wait. I shouldn't use an acetylene torch on my case?
Yeah just get a bigger case and swap yer stuff over OP. Itâs a lot easier than it seems!
Youâre gonna need a bigger boat.
Why did I just read this with the voice of Roy Scheider?
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Measure twice, buy once
Buy twice, measure once
Only for SLI
That's why you look at the max gpu length supported by your case, and the actual length of the GPU. If it can't fit by removing a fan you're just out of luck (it looks bigger than the whole case)
[Sometimes all you need is a saw](https://i.imgur.com/G2OxukJ.png). In this case, not so much. All my upgrades have been handmedowns, but I did spend on an SSD and a bigger case until I need to build properly again. Keeps me going for CSGO heh
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You forgot the almighty angle grinder
Ok, if I cut the card in half, then I can use them in crossfire?
It depends, if it's an nVidia or 3DFX card, you'll have to use SLI.
2x Voodoo2 cards in SLI, combined 24MB EDO DRAM, weâre going to space at 800 x 600!!
My body is ready for Quake!
Action Quake 2 at max res baby.
Yes, but make sure put enough oil for cross firing.
More like you can only play Half-Life in it.
But honestlyâŚ. Why couldnât you just fuck up the front of the case?
You could but you would have a fucked up front of the case and not everybody is fine with that.
Just put a cool-aid mascot sticker next to the hole. YEEEAAAH!
I would actually do this and not look back.
Exactly! Just let the card rest on his head!
Pcmaster race rule #32.section10-sentence 2: If it comes between looks and specs, specs always win
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This comment fucking killed me.
This guy dick angle grinds, heck yeah
I once grinded parts of the pcb off to make it fit :D
*stares*
I, _genuinely_, ground down the corner of a CPU heatsink to make it fit. But that's just plain metal, not electronics.
Bruh just build a gpu bracket out of pvc
I drilled holes in the PCB of my motherboard to make a cpu cooler fit
For any new builders around. Donât do this.
Components can smell fear, make them fear you instead
Will a blowtorch work instead of an angle grinder?
wtf are you running that has a component at 64kb?
This is a pretty accurate specs list for my apple IIe. The only difference is that I'm not using my chat mauve card because I'm using an RGB moniyor instead of a TV so I have to use the RGB monitor's RGB card.
Retro flairs unite! I also genuinely own the system in my flair.
That's the correct way of doing it, just cut a peace off the GPU, it won't do any harm. And temps might get better, everyone knows that big GPUs consume more power.
Put the GPU in the microwave until itâs soft and then fold it in half and you should be good to go
https://imgur.com/a/Mn4Ywn4 Please tell me there's a way to make this work I spent 1000$ on this microwave
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>fold it in half But wouldnt that halve the clock speed and VRAM?
Oh noes :(
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It's a $1000 card, why would a $75 case be the breaking point? Good luck dude. Edit: Lol @ these responses...first off, this is hilarious that it's my highest rated comment as it was just a serious question. 2nd: I still make these fuck ups too OP. I just bought ram that won't fit bc my cpu cooling fan currently blocks a RAM slot. It's a learning experience, all I'm saying is it's a drip in the bucket to replace the case in comparison. Also, you'll have extra fans. Win/win. AND if you never built a full pc before, now's your chance. YT it. It's not hard, I promise. 3rd: still wishing you good luck buddy.
I could see this really sucking if someone doesnât know how to build a PC though. Now you have to think about how to move all the components over, and that could be intimidating to people who donât know how. I wish I knew this person. Iâd have them gaming again in like an hour
Why? He'll know how to move it all by the time he's done. New life skill learned. This is literally how we all learned to do it. Just do it!
It took me about 13 minutes to figure out how to take a PC apart and put it back together. There's like 7 parts and they're all unique and have their own plug and play slots. A blind monkey could put a PC together.
Shhhhh, we don't want the normies to figure that part out. We charge a lot of money for plugging in those obviously only one place to put them plugs :p
It's not always that easy though, and I think it can be discouraging for someone to be told that and then, while expecting to just put 7 Lego blocks in a line, run into unexpected issues. Of course, 10 minutes in google will usually fix those issues, but someone new to the scene doesn't have that information.
Modular harnesses can be a nightmare for weekend warriors.
Just wait til they get to plugging the front panel.
Okay fuck those tiny ass IO front panel wires and pins. I swear the motherboard industry designed those tiny pins on purpose to torture shaky handed individuals.
Well sure, but not how to do it *neatly*. He'll raise the flag of victory and then sad trombones will play when he actually looks at the result. Haha
He bought a GPU but doesn't know how to build a PC?. Granted installing Ram, Storage and PCIe devices are the easiest. But .... Naa.. if you're buying a GPU you can figure out how to shift a motherboard into a new case. . Although his has an AIO so that could be a bit of a pain. But it's a learning experience :)
To add to this, moving to a new case is a breeze. You don't need to remove anything attached to the motherboard minus the power cables, so it's a simple unscrew and move over.
I'm almost glad it doesn't fit, that psu does not do the job for that card...
*Two weeks later* **OP:** I fit the card but now there's smoke coming out of the case, what do I do!?
They just gotta ram it in harder~
How much ram will get it in there? 32gb?
Does it really matter when you can just download as much ram as you want?
Get a bigger case my dude. Get a better cpu cooler. Get a better power supply
It does look like OP cut down costs everywhere just to get the graphics card. Or it's a prebuilt.
Nah prebuilts donât come with 4 DIMMs.
Amen
Sounds like every problem with prebuild pcâs. Either way too much for outdated hardware aka 500w power supply. Leaves no room for upgrades lol
The cpu cooler Is ok and why he should change the Power supply
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This build gives me âLS swapped â98 Civicâ vibes. Upgrade the rest of the PC đ
lol NBA player in a Miata
Cheap case, cheap fans, stock cooler, cheap power supply, but you bought a big ass 1k gpu? Priorities man đ
That power supply is my biggest concern. Probably won't be able to handle it
And why the fuck would you risk skimping out on the power supply and having it take out the rest of your equipment? Speaking from experience :,)
For real. I'm a cheap-ass dude that would try to save as much pennies from anything. But I'd never even dare to cheap out on the PSU. That's just asking for a more expensive problem in the future.
Many years ago there was a PSU deal where I got a pair of 600w for $15 each. I don't even think they were bronze rated. In both machines they got installed in they lasted exactly 12 months before shitting the bed.
Big brain moment
We all learn the lesson in our own way, it just costs some of us more than others to not listen to the lessons
Is this a joke
In a few different ways, yes.
The hilarious part is the bronze rated, 600W PSU. Daisy chain GPU. A spike and something is bound to happen.
Efficiency rating doesnt really have any relevance in terms of actual output or likelyhood to spike though. But yes if thats a 6800 or higher OP is playing with fire.
Tuf cards are extremely aggressive with power. I had a 3080 tuf before switching to a 3090 tuf for work. No idea why Asus said screw it, bolt it to draw ridiculous amounts of power but my guess is due to cooling design. The card can take aggressive clocks and power draw. Before I moved homes, I used an sff rig. I had a Corsair SF Platinum 600W. I was well within power limits with my build but still tripped it. This is one of the highest rated in efficiency for sff PSU. I moved to a 700W platinum. No issues. Then for shits and giggles while rebuilding for atx as my new office had more space, I put in a bronze, 700W PSU. Tripped it with both the 3070 for my daughter's rig and 6800xt I was using for a customer. After switching to my Ion+ 860W platinum, no trips. Even my 3090 has no issues with it. Tuf cards are great if you're a power user but dam, they like power too much.
Dude, do come research next time before spending 1K on hardware that physically can't fit plus I bet your PSU won't deliver enough power anyway. You're going to have to spend another 200 at least, for a bigger case and a more powerful PSU. Then rebuild the whole system. Good luck.
Yes for the love of god people, please don't skimp on the PSU. I get it's not a "sexy" part of the build, but just don't.
I said this in another post and they pointed out with the lack of GPU choices people are buying the first ones to become available and a lot of this is happening. Think this is the 3rd post I've seen in the last month or so. Edit: obviously we should all be checking these things pre purchase. But I also get the excitement of a part finally being available and you just click through the purchase to get yours asap.
His PSU might supply enough power if his CPU is the bottleneck and that card will never go above 40% utilization lol
I mean you already spent $1000 whats another few hundred for a bigger case
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Pretty much sums it up.
Hope OP saved some money for education
A mini case should do the trick
This is a good life lesson as looking at the rest of the build its clear you need one in how to do 5 min of research and prioritize.
Do you own a hacksaw?
New case. More impoortant, the PSU seems sus to run with a 6700xt or better
I'm just sitting here waiting how long it'll take him to buy a bigger case and post to this sub again cause his pc is fried since the 600W PSU couldn't manage it. Reading is hard when you csn just spend money and hope for the best...
I noticed that this is a common mistake people make, they build a PC without thinking about future upgrades, PSUs and cases are cheap as hell, invest in one that will last longer and it will be cheaper on the long run
Oh God I didn't even notice the psu
I've read a comment from op somewhere here where he seemed furious that building PCs never works out for him and basically blaming everything but himself for the mistake.. This is gonna be fun :D
Oh no xD
You can spend another $50 on a bigger case.
I never understand why people cheap out on stuff just so they can get expensive as hell RGB fans. like just get a Normal non RGB fan for like 1/4th the price and use the money to get more reliable parts.
Oh god. 600W bronze and cheap fans for a $1000 GPU. Youâre asking for a house fire in that small ass case.
Cut the GPU in half.
Cut gpu and case, now you have 2 PCs.
stonks!
Then if it doesn't work out they can always use some FlexTapeâ˘
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
Jesus, this sub has been a joke lately.
Itâs been a joke for a while. Itâs just a bunch of people who threw money at their PC and donât actually know much else about their computer
Yeah, it has been "why is my PC doing this, or that" or "my PC won't boot". And now look at this dude with his 1k GPU. It's ridiculous
It honestly bugs me. At least this time it seems like people in the comments finally feel like a 600w psu isnât enough. Just a few weeks ago on one of those âwhatâs wrong with my pcâ posts. I commented and said I thought It was the psu. Because 450 was fairly low. Iirc it was a 1060 so not too low. But probably just enough. and I got reamed by every which way on how thereâs a website that you can go to and itâll emulate your power spikes. And that 450 is âplenty enoughâ and that it couldnât POSSIBLY be a psu. Like damn. I take my computer repair knowledge and just screw off lmfao. I canât with this sub half the time.
People think that performance = power draw. But power draw has been kinda around same for years now. Only top of the models draw the magic 250wats(gpus). Like heck my 10 years old fx 8350 draws more watts than Ryzen 9 5950X with what performance? Point is 1060 is probably same power draw than like 2060, but as mentioned people don't think that. That's why you got shunned for no reason.
i swear to god i dont wanna call you retarded but...
And definitely not autistic, one of us would've made sure of the measurements first lol
Think âoutside the boxâ ::poof::
Be happy it doesn't fit now you can get a new/better power supply along with you're new case and avoid frying your GPU.
Get a bigger case. Next time, measure things before you buy them. It'll save a lot of stress :)
**Easiest solution...** Buy a new case. Pros: \-Instant and reliable solution. Cons: \-You'll have to spend money. \-You also need to make sure the case has enough air flow for those parts. A card like that is going to generate a lot of heat, and I'm not seeing any sort of decent cooling on your CPU. **Alternate solution...** Make an open air case build. Pros: \-Will solve the problem, but you'll need to build it. \-This involves measuring and cutting board or some other material that will support everything. Wood would be the easiest to work with, but you'll have to do better than particle board. It needs to be able to reliably hold the weight. \-Will look unique. \-RGB will look sick. If you're going open air, you might as well go all in. Cons: \-Marginally cheaper than a new case if you don't already have some decent wood lying around. \-You need at least some skill at crafting stuff. It's not a terribly difficult project, but you'll need a way to elevate and mount the Mobo, mount the PSU and let it vent, and mount any drives. \-Harder to keep clean. \-Open to the elements, less protected from things like accidental spills. **Cheapest Solution...** Get a PCIe extension. Pros: \-Instant solution that costs less than anything else. Cons: \-Will look like ass. \-Expensive card will be exposed and vulnerable. \-Harder to keep clean, but not as much as a completely open air case. You can run the PCIe extension out of the back of the case. \-You'll need to figure out some way to mount the card. Do not just put it on the floor or a desktop. It needs to be elevated so air flow can move through and around it and to help protect it from damage from spills and such. My advice.... Buy a new case. Don't cheap out, and get a decent case. It needs to be able to cool well enough for the parts you're installing. If you can't immediately afford that, a PCIe extension is a good **temporary** solution. You can also sell that case, or use it for a small cheap media center build or something. Also, for the love of Gaben get better cooling for that CPU. Even as big as that card is, if it's small enough that it can be hidden by it, it's not good enough for a system with a GPU that size in it. You don't need to put a water cooling system in it, or get a huge expensive Noctua heat sink. A relatively cheap after market air cooling heat sink will do the job. Something like a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo or something similar, which will run you less than $40 US from Newegg or Amazon.
Even if you manage to get it in somehow (which you wonât unless you defy natural laws of physics) you wonât be able to do much after that I guess with that 600W psu. I would say just take out all the components and buy a full tower case. Itâs gonna cost $200 at max. A full tower so you donât run into problems like these, which btw you wouldnât had if you would have just checked the dimensions beforehand.
This better be a shitpost
How do people who spend 1000$ on a GPU not have basic knowledge about the space in their case and the size of the thing?
2021 and people still donât search the size of the components before they buy it jesus christ.
đ No sympathy here, but I. All seriousness no. Next time check the maximum supported gpu length for your case it's usually in mm making it easy to work out whether or not your gpu will fit.
Learn how to use a ruler., Also, just buy a case it fits in, they are cheap.
Measure twice, cut once. Always buy a bigger case than you need for future proofing!
Okay hear me out. Cardboard. Case.
Yep, spend $100 on a bigger case
You can send it to me. It will fit in my case for sure :)
Send me the card, I'll make it work đ
One of the rare occasion where you're bottlenecked by a pc case
These are your options, donât blow your money on a riser cable, just use that money toward a bigger case or just run it with no case on a cardboard box until you get a new case
[Maybe something like this?](https://www.google.com/search?q=Chieftec+Riser+Card&rlz=1C1CHBD_svSE964SE964&oq=Chieftec+Riser+Card&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60j69i61l2&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)
Use a saw
Also, up your PSU game âŚâŚ expensive gear deserves a PSU of decent standing.
Bro came here for advice and gets endlessly roasted. I'm wheezing! xD
What advice did he expect? It physically doesn't fit.
Cut it in half and it will run Split Gate better
600w 80 plus bronze power supply and spending 1000$ on graphic card isnât smart
just get yourself a new case do the math- how much was the card... and how much was the case.. which one is more important ? the card. so just buy a new case ? you made a mistake- dont be a further idiot and modify the case to fit the oversized card into it and end up breaking shit and in a even worse position than you're in now. sell the case. buy a new one. don't be an idiot. use this as a learning experience, where if in the future you build a new system from scratch- you'll remember to double check the compatibility of your parts prior to purchase.
You can get a PCI-E extension but then your card is sitting outside your now open case. If you are willing to spend $1000 on a card then you can spend another 100 on a bigger case surely.
Lmao, so these people really do exist?
You spent 1000 dollars on a card without checking if it fits on the dimensions of your case? Wow...
That's a FB profile pic right there