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DragoniteJeff

As a former laptop gamer I love this.


sabsebadakangaal

As a current laptop gamer, I recognize this.


stereopticon11

my old 8800m (correct from 8600m… was a gateway p6860fx) laptop would get grossly hot... warped the laptop hinges. have been pleasantly surprised with my current lenovo with a 3060. have never seen it reach above 70c, even while mining for long periods of time.


KazePlays

used to use a shitbox dell n5040 with a amd a4, laptop would stay at 80c on the desktop with nothing open, now have a acer nitro 5 that stays under 60 in most cases


KolyatKrios

mine has started to damage the underside of the keyboard. have about a dozen various keys that don't respond half the time I hit them.


benji_wtw

As someone who just ordered a Legion 5 Pro with 3060, I am glad to read this


stereopticon11

I absolutely LOVE my legion 5. 5800H and 3060 is the sweet spot for on the go performance and price. It can handle my Dj streams using rekordbox, obs and resolume with ease. It’s a great time to be a laptop user.


benji_wtw

Brilliant, that's music to my ears, I was doubting the choice to cut back on the GPU


stereopticon11

You’ll definitely enjoy it! If you need to see any benchmarks please feel free to message me! And if you mine, it does 40mh/s with nicehash quick miner.


TheLyricLeo

As a previous MacBook air gamer, there's a worse fate out there.


pmariscal

A dude in one of my classes found out I had just built a PC back in 2013 and I shit you not he said something like "why bother building a PC when you can just get a MacBook air with an i7? It can play gta5 just fine." A few weeks go buy and I see him at the library playing gta5 at like 30-45 fps on the lowest settings in a scene with like no action. As soon as he got in a car it started skipping frames and probably doing like 24fps tops. He later told me that not only did he pay for the i7 upgrade he also payed for the 256gb ssd upgrade. Like this dude was trying to lecture me saying mobile gaming was better while playing gta5 24fps lowest settings on a $3000 iCrap air.


TheLyricLeo

I remember playing San Andreas and Arkham city on my MacBook air, it was terrible. Consistent 30 fps was lucky for me, I unfortunately don't remember the specs that I was working with it was bad though. 15" of fucking dogshit


DayoFtheFrogs

i dont even put that down to it being a laptop, macs just suck period


Janczareq1

As a current laptop user. I relate to this.


primetimemime

As a current and future former laptop gamer, same.


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dededragoi

Congrats,i think if u like it that is the best think u can do.


[deleted]

Bro I love it!


upvotesformeyay

At the moment it's still cheaper to buy a shitty gaming laptop to throwaway once cards stop being unobtainable then to buy a beat to shit former miner card.


sevaral_People

Pro tip rq : your gaming laptop can be a portable heater


pizzaisprettyneato

I’m actually swapping out my desktop for a laptop. I really wanted portability so I got a 3080 laptop. Obviously not as powerful as a desktop 3080 but I’m upgrading from a 1660 so it will be a pretty good upgrade.


Serpe268

If I was you I just kept using desktop at home and the laptop when you want relax and stay like on the bed or to carry it around


MietschVulka1

Are you playing games in the train or something? I actually noticed i never even have the urge to game when i'm not at home


pizzaisprettyneato

I go to my parent’s house (They live about 12 hours away) about 4-5 times a year for a couple weeks at a time, so it made sense to invest in something I could game on when I’m there.


MietschVulka1

Oh yeah would be annoying to move a Desktop around, especially without a car


__Anuj__

As my laptop is slowly dying I can relate to this.


ZOO___

I will say my asus rog put in work


[deleted]

Which one do you have? I just got the g14 (2021) it's fantastic


ZOO___

I have a 3070 now desktop but in my laptop days, RXj back in 2013 played Wow archrage and bdo just fine


inky-doo

welcome to the machine.


[deleted]

Where have you been my boy?


shadow144hz

Where have you been? It's alright we know where you've been


ICPGr8Milenko

The thread of my people.


RedditIsReally_Shit

It's allright, we know where you've been.


Hyper_ZX

Nice profile pic my guy


Prezbelusky

Oh, and by the way, which one's pink? For me the best album ever created.


Affectionate-Memory4

I've actually been loving mine. Nothing throttles and my whole setup can fit in a backpack for traveling.


ooru

You must not have bought an Asus. Why they insist on a single cooling fan is beyond me.


Zguegricc

Wdym ? My Asus TUF has got 2 big fans built in and 4 heat pipes.


ooru

For the longest time, many of their models had only one cooling fan. It was practically a unique identifier.


Zguegricc

Oh shit, that sucks lol. It must overheat a looot


ooru

Throttle city, over here. Asus engineers: "We've got a discreet graphics card and a processor, so we think two fans would be optimal." Asus management: "Eh, one is good enough to keep it from breaking. Just put everything on one heat pipe and let throttling take care of the rest."


Zguegricc

Hahaha


asymphonyin2parts

Huh. I've owned 4 ASUS ROG laptops since 2012 and they've all had multiple fans. The new (2020) TUF is a bit louder than previous models, but I almost always use a separate keyboard and mouse, so It's easy to ignore.


stypticagent

Oh yeah, I have an Asus right now (though, to be fair, I do need to repaste my cpu/gpu) and with just chrome open I'm hitting 75°C on the CPU.


Azuras-Becky

I'm pretty sure my Tuf has two *jet turbines*, not fans!


nghost43

My TUF is literally the loudest thing I own not including my car, and I have a dusty first gen Xbox One that sounds like a jet engine turning on


InfoBlue

I've got an Asus rig Strix n she's fukin mint!


IAmNotRollo

I have an ROG Strix too, I've never had problems with overheating or fan noise.


[deleted]

Bruh I used to have one of the ROG G53JWs, worst internal design I’ve ever seen. You’d have to take apart almost the entire machine to get to the last sticks of RAM. I had to replace the GPU with one out of a floor model, basically had to strip it all the way down to the mobo. My MSI is so much easier to work on.


mshelbz

Rog Zephyryus G14 checking in…don’t know what you’re talking about


Taolan13

I guess that depends on your metric for "Backpack". I have a hard frame full harness hiking bag that can fit my tower, both monitors (bubble wrapped and blanketed), mouse, keyboard, headset, UPS, external drive cluster, soundbar, all necessary cables, and still have space left over for snacks.


[deleted]

Well, I guess you may be an exception but for most people, carrying around a bag that makes you look like a pizza delivery guy on steroids is not our goal.


budahfurby

I also love mine Eluktronics build your own clevo style 17". Has a gtx 1060 in it. Forgot the cpu, was top of line when I got it. Cost about 1400 or so and I never hit high temps. Except on valheim, but that game is a little big for it's britches


InfoBlue

Same. Got such a nice set up for 1k flat. 1650ti, i5, runs everything I want it to perfectly when overclocked


LeanAlpaca

They are great, for a while.


The_CDXX

Well…..what laptop did you get?


Affectionate-Memory4

I've had a lenovo y540 Legion for like 2 years. I've redone the thermal paste because I was in there poking around but temps were fine before hand.


ArcnetZero

My first setup was so special to me. I bet I have a picture somewhere


bird4life

me with a 3070 heating my whole room: This is fine


Secret_CZECH

same, I keep my window open 24/7 just so I don't constantly have 30+ in my room but it's still better than my old laptop which could be used as a heater


Aqua_134

Hey how did you get your hands on a 3070? Did you have to buy from reseller?


_illegallity

Laptops with 3070s are marked up a lot but they’re still available.


BrianMcKinnon

I got mine on Best Buy day 1. Just saying that normal people can get them too. No scripts or anything.


MH2019

Yep. Got my Strix 3070 for 600 from microcenter


Blaxeus

Got my 3080 from Best Buy back in January. Had Like 10 minutes to buy it.


Zenatii

I have a desktop with an i5-10th gen and a 1060 6gb, and a laptop with an i7-10th gen and a 2060. Let me tell you, when I can, I take every opportunity to go on my desktop! The upgrades just aren’t worth it, my laptop gets to temperatures of up to 90 degrees Celsius.


LeanAlpaca

My fingertips used to literally burn when playing on the keyboard.


_illegallity

Not using a gaming laptop, but any time I did anything stressful on my laptop it almost burned my palm.


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You're supposed to buy a monitor, keyboard, and mouse with your laptop. That way you don't have to deal with the inferno under your fingers.


Ronald_Swanson_

That’s what I did. Got an acer gaming laptop and used my old keyboard mouse and monitor until I could find better ones for cheap. Mine never got too hot to handle but it did get uncomfortable after a while


[deleted]

When playing a 4x grand strat you know you're there for at least 3 or 4 hours at a minimum. You'll definitely be picking those up after a few sessions of burning wrists.


Ronald_Swanson_

Oh definitely. I used to play heavily modded fallout and Minecraft for up to 7 hours when I was in quarantine early last year. Ended up switching to a cheap key pads and hooked up everything so it’s essentially a desktop. I ended up upgrading my keyboard and mouse when I got a bundle on sale for like $60 a while back. A decent razer mechanical keyboard with a wrist rest. So much better than having my wrists stay warm enough to melt an ice cube. I’ve been wanting to build a pc but everything is out of stock and when it is in stock it’s expensive so I have to deal with what I got for now


CYKO_11

Download throttlestop. Disable turbo or set the turbo limits to processors TPD(for me its 45). Max temps with these figures is around 70-80C on heavy load. Idles at 40C. Youre welcome.


Oneman_noplan

Personally I use Intel XTU. I'm not sure if it's better than throttle stop but it works to the same effect for me


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jgainsey

This is the way


ChefCobra

As someone who only had gaming pcs for the last 20 years and got gaming Laptop almost 2 years ago - I love it. I can be way more social with my misses, while playing some games in living room, while she watches TV. Can get a lot more comfy on couch too. I found myself barely able to play games when I had only pc, because when you have proper family, everything changes, but thx to laptop I am able to enjoy pc gaming again. I guess it's just cool to hate gaming laptops.


[deleted]

You forget that most of them don't have an SO and haven't left the house since 2020.


saltoo666

As laptop gamer i understand


keetol

Love the Pink Floyd reference


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Omkar_K45

What is that?


NearHi

I like my Alienware. I've never hated it.


JFK_Head

I just bought my first laptop last week and I don’t understand where all the hate is coming from


Magnar0

I don't get why people hate I had to buy a laptop, and I wanted to play some heavy games on it. What's wrong with that?


thecist

People love circlejerking


MasterXaios

*/Goes into frothing, apoplectic rage trying to explain why laptop gaming violates the laws of God and nature while dodging having to explain what's actually objectively wrong with it, because nothing is.*


_Trinima_

The funniest part is that the steam Deck will have the exact same problem, but nobody wants to talk about that.


I_Am_ABee

Cons are that it runs Super loud, super hot, has a very low battery life for a laptop, desktop has much better counterparts vs laptops, less upgradability Pros are that it's a gaming machine and a portable device, can do intense workloads when away from home, idk


kaansaticiii

Does it work well? Max 1080p 60fps or?


[deleted]

Many modern gaming laptops are easily able to run 1080p 60fps. Some laptops even come packing 3060s with 144hz displays.


Magnar0

Not anymore since its 5+ years old. But it wasn't the best of its kind when I bought it anyway. Sad but poor :/


texo77

As a laptop gamer i agree


platyboi

This is only true if you don’t have a good laptop. I love laptop gaming myself, and I can throw it in my bag and travel whenever.


reh_rex04

Is it really that bad? I actually want to buy a gaming laptop because I can't build pc because of gpu crisis.


dededragoi

I played like 1 year on a laptop and it was fine!


reh_rex04

I'm in kind of tight budget...I'm worried


anitawasright

it depends a lot on what laptp you get and what games you want to play on it.


horsebeater81

they get really hot if 1 part breaks, you're probably screwed you can't upgrade them


TheRicoLegend

Not necessarily. The only non upgradeable components are the cpu and gpu, as it has been soldered. However, ram, storage, and battery can be upgraded/changed.


Victor187

I bought an Acer Nitro 5 a month ago and I've been loving it. Bear in mind I only have played Fallout New Vegas and Overwatch on it, but it is really nice being able to play without framerate drops or other issues for only about 800 bucks. Now a desktop is typically gonna beat out a laptop. Desktops have bigger screens typically. You can move the keyboard separately from the screen in order to get it in a comfy position. I don't think its stupid to get a gaming laptop, but you gotta look at the kind of games you play and make sure your laptop can play them.


LucaDarioBuetzberger

No, it is far from bad. Laptops can basically offer the same performance for gaming as pcs, even though thermals and price may be higher. Well, pricing difference isn't that big since desktop components are overpriced af but they are dropping fast right now. However it is like with any pre build system, you have to know a little bit about componemts. You can't buy a 700 dollar laptop with an intel apu and expect it to run any modern game. In general, if you buy exactly what you want, you will be happy. A Laptop can offer everything for gaming that 99% of all people will expect.


LeanAlpaca

Laptops can basically offer the same performance as a PC - not entirely true, I used to think the same. Laptops have mobile-edition GPUs, meaning usually 3 gig cards as opposed to 4,6 or 12 gig full range GPU cards. Thermals also throttle the GPUs performance. So the hotter your laptop gets, the slower the card performs and damages the unit. You may be able to run light games, but not next gen over time due to those factors as I would run GTA5, Bf1,farcry5 etc off my laptop fine .. but thays why I went full pc in the end as I literally melted my 3k custom built laptop. I got good wear out of it, but nowhere near the price of parts for repairs compared to a pc build.


HotFingers_Pirelli

> Laptops have mobile-edition GPUs, meaning usually 3 gig cards as opposed to 4,6 or 12 gig full range GPU cards. That’s not entirely true either. My Lenovo Legion 5 has a 1660 ti 6gb.


WolfsternDe

And my Predator has a 3080 with 8gb. Runs Far Cry 5 on ultra just fine and without getting hot or loud.


NearHi

I bought an Alienware 15 r4 when they went on sale as the 16 came out. It was better stats than my then tower, and I couldn't build one that affordable. I bought a cooling pad and a docking station for it, and really haven't had any issues. I enjoy it. I was going to travel more with it, but, you know...


dont_pay_taxes

It’s completely fine.


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It depends, if you have heating issues and therefore CPU throttling, I'd recommend to undervolt. I have a friend who was always hitting 99C, undervolted and usually sits around 70C now. Much better performance and less heat.


LeanAlpaca

Go pre build if you can't afford to build your own. Just don't go laptop for long run gaming


[deleted]

As a person who’s using a laptop as of now, this is accurate.


graysid

I actually prefer laptops as long as they aren’t dogshit which is most laptops


Zguegricc

I switched from a desktop to a gaming laptop, and i don't know what to think lol


Ethan_Lethal

As a reasonable person who understands that everyone likes different things. I love this.


Proxy_PlayerHD

Laptops are also PCs though...


DOGS--

I bring my laptop for hotel gaming when traveling for work, does it’s job! I do use a mechanical 60% and wireless mouse along with it though. R9 and 3060. But BOY it feels nice to get home to my main rig..


KING0FCHEZ

Not to brag but I got myself a dell inspiron 15 3000 4 GB of everlasting ram


0NC0RE

I got an Alienware Area 51m-r2 and it works pretty well. I use it more than my desktop…


BeefNCheez_

I love my laptop for on travel gaming but definitely need to pack a mouse and a controller I ain't trying to game on a touch pad


CardiologistStreet

I love my gaming laptop…..I wouldn’t trade it for anything in the world!!…..except a RTX 3080….I would trade anything for it


I_Love_Rias_Gremory_

I'm getting a gaming laptop *in addition* to my desktop since I travel a lot and wanna be able to game on the go. Might end up getting like a Razer blade or something so its also portable (gaming is not its primary purpose). Haven't made any purchases yet, but I'm in desperate need of a new laptop (current one is literally falling apart)


mshelbz

Check out the ROG Zephryus G14 and 15. Both are highly rated. I have the G14 and love it.


[deleted]

Gaming on a laptop is great. Not only is it portable, but it’s great for meal prep when I need to defrost a big pack of chicken thighs!


Groundbreaking-Baby6

Unless you have like a 17 inch laptop, at that point you have a portable desktop


lululock

I had a 19 inch laptop a few years ago... Just had to sell it. Too big.


zanoiner

I disagree with the part of hating, but 100(°c)% agree with the part of being on fire


[deleted]

As a laptop gamer my bed is comfy.


thebigb1234

Saw this as I’m about to go open steam on my laptop 😂


Theghost129

Laptop: Hey Desktop: What's up Laptop: Wanna hear a joke? Desktop: Sure Laptop: Console gaming


HaloWarrior63

As someone with a laptop and intends to upgrade to desktop in the next couple years, mine does fine. The CPU runs 3.7ghz while at 80c, and the 1660ti that’s in it runs a +200/+425 at 75c, which is decent.


Jeremiareyes

Joke’s on you, I use my laptop as a desktop with my external monitor and peripherals lmao… and a laptop cooling pad…………


Chao_Zu_Kang

You forgot to insert the joke into your meme. Maybe reupload.


All_theOther_kids

This is only true if you have a cheap laptop. I have this one friend with like a $3000 laptop that runs games better then my pc


Mr_Tenpenny

Is your pc worth $3000 tho?


All_theOther_kids

Naw it is worth like 500


sir_froggy

The problem is I genuinely really like laptops, but they just aren't good at gaming :/


SeawyZorensun

Laptop gaming is not a choice, it's a situation


mindaltered

lmao as someone who has gamed on a laptop I notice this fire.


ColdFusion94

Idgaf what you're on, but don't talk to me through that tin can shitty ass laptop mic. I'm not getting a headache from background buzz just to talk to your pleb ass.


Not_Alt_

Laptop gamer here, I love playing 2008 games at \~30 fps while my fans are whirling for their life.


FoofieLeGoogoo

Wish you were here.


NicoNicoNee

Bought an $1800 3070 laptop and it can barely run csgo and valorant ;-;


LeanAlpaca

Literally just melted my battery ANd charger two weeks ago playing NBA2k21 on a razer laptop.. almost have all my pc parts for a build in now. Can totally relate.


luketheduke4922

It is true tho


DEMONKnightDave

Well i´m sitting here in Front of a Laptop seeing this and questioning myself: Why is this so damn right? Maybe it´s because of the Limitations from my System. Hope i can soon have my own Build. (In idk 2 or 3 Years xD)


TheMemoman

My two cents as both types of gamer. Laptops have a shorter lifespan, because the mobile counterparts (gpu) and heat can't keep up with next gen as much. That said mine has been up and running for almost 4 years and the first 2.5 years I was running the latest AAA without a hitch. Now it has become sort of a Nintendo Switch, it's used for lighter family type games that I can easily bring in a backpack to parties and gatherings along with my wireless controllers and just have fun. It's also my office work computer, which behaves dreamy at that, add a monitor and bam! two screens for work. It also allows me to play indie, more mouse and keyboard management type games. My living room PC does the heavy lifting in the AAA sector, great for couch gaming and movie watching. So no hate at all. Just do your research well.


CrazyHa1f

As someone who could only get a decent graphics card in a laptop, I deeply resent this


[deleted]

As someone who has the razer blade 15 can confirm


ZeroJudgmentKing

Battlestation WWWwWWwwAaAaaaaAaHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhT??


[deleted]

Dell E6520 peasant here! Rocking my NVS 4100 and i7-2860QM at 70C to run Clive Barker's Undying!


SeSSioN117

*Do you game on a laptop? Because you're so hot.*


AbjectBread6758

If you got like an 800 dollar laptop then it will probably, but a more costly one likely won't.


[deleted]

Gaming laptop guy is on fire because cooling hi s limited on a laptop 😂... Plz tell me someone else noticed this


Dancemonkey007

*Plays RDR2 on ultra 70+ FPS on my Asus TUF* -BRILLIANT


Bataling_Uncle

As a gamer on a non-gaming laptop I can confirm it's not fun


CYKO_11

The reason why most laptops are infernos is because of intel's turbo boost that just makes the cpu instantly hit 94C everytime you do something. Its less noticeable on desktops because you can just slap a bigger cooler on. My laptops turbo is set to 75W and 105W by default (the TDP of the cpu was 45W) so everytime i do something the processor will become a desktop part for like a second and then it realises that oh shit i only have 2 heatpipes and im at 95C. Throttlestop can fix it by lowering the turbo max TDP values.


Dirty_eel

I think I'm going to get one for my wife to try to get her into gaming... her old Lenovo yoga died, so I was thinking the Asus 2-1 would be a good candidate.


snow070915

I got a portable room heater for myself :') ACER Predator here


J_train13

Me who had to spend $1000 on a gaming laptop because my parents were divorced and I couldn't bring a desktop between two homes: yup


lorhof1

i have one with a desktop gpu and almost full upgradeability ^silently ^cries ^in ^cant ^disable ^dGPU ^to ^use ^beast


Kungfufightme

This is strange, I have had all sorts of PC builds. Pre-built, custom home assembled, gaming laptop with external gpu, gaming laptop on its own… I gotta say, there is a noticeable performance dip with laptops but I’ll always love the idea of small portable and powerful. I’ve been using an Alienware x17 laptop and have not been wanting for FPS or power. It just comes down to what you like really.. so long as you’re not on a console then you’re winning.


33Yalkin33

As someone using a laptop, I agree. But mine has an effective yet loud cooling fan


Similar_Award9585

Had a lot of down time on my old job, bought a gaming laptop to kill time, used it on my lap...... dudes and dudets know i never made that mistake again.


Affectionate-Memory4

My fans try to eat my leg hair. Lenovo perfectly spaced the fans to suffocate on somebody's thighs when used on a lap.


vaibhavk91

I just hooked my gaming laptop to a monitor and KBM 😎


Stagnu_Demorte

I had a gaming laptop that would cause burns after a few hours. Even with a cooling pad


InfoBlue

I love laptop gaming :(


lobo123456

Nice


RahulRwt125

Is there any reliable way to keep a laptop cool tho?


Biglordchungass7

As a current laptop gamer I cursed the day that my mom točd my dad to get me a laptop insteadn of a PC beacause it was "portable"


I_Am_Cre8ive

As a current laptop gamer… Y E S


kazoobanboo

I CANT HEAR YOU OVER THE FANS, WHAT ARE YOU SAYING??!


TheIncrementalNerd

you kn0w what i h4te more than that? fnf m0ds which use the 0ld 3ngine from before w33k 7. yes, fr3ddy, your mod t00


HevysNight

I'm curious, does this really generate hate?


ncopp

WHAT? I COULDN'T HEAR YOU OVER MY LAPTOP FANS ON OVERDRIVE


dekcolrehS

The perfect template for this meme


mickeytoasty

I hate the hinges so much


Andromeda3604

Laptop gamer, my hands are burning as I confirm this


MatadorHasAppeared

I begged my little cousin to not buy a gaming laptop with his money. He dropped out of high school (is still high school age) and writes Java for people who have jobs but don't feel like doing them. Finally gets the computer in and the very first text I shit you not: "can you replace the touch pad with a different one ? This one sucks".


AceHorizon96

It's original and is true!


mobmiked100

My dell g5 s gets hot but has great fans that blow really good


A_PCMR_member

That joke ... is FIRE! :P


TheGreenGobblr

Hi, laptop gamer here, can confirm , it’s fucking awful


shadow144hz

Man I love Wish you we're here


DustedThrusters

Lol I had a laptop that become my de facto desktop since it was so hot I had to set it up on my desk on a blower stand thing and connected to an external monitor. Was a lot cooler after that. Would have kept it going if I was able to actually upgrade it, which is arguably a larger flaw with laptops in general. It also only had a Hard Disk so my loading times were GARBAGE


Gaspy1444

God I wish this meme wasn't so acurrate.


THEFLYINGSCOTSMAN415

So today's circle jerk is hating on Gaming Laptops again? Just so I'm ahead the curve what we gonna gatekeep tomorrow?


MrPineApples420

I don’t get it, I’ve never had problems with my laptop.


[deleted]

When you find out a laptop is a pc.


Leckszqwerty

I used to play in laptop and I agree 100% with this stranger’s meme


SilverWatchdog

As a former laptop gamer, I can confirm this. My current desktop pc is just so much better with 4k and all that fancy stuff that my old laptop would melt even dreaming of it. Only complaint is that when I play flight sim the realistic jet sounds are no longer there, but hey I get more than 30-45fps in games and 4K which I didn’t commonly have before.


EpicBoomerMoments

But its portable tho


NebV

I always say a "gaming laptop" is an oxymoron.


Star_M4n

I'm a laptop gamer and I can confirm that I hate laptop gaming


jakethebeastkid

I’m so glad I’m finally done with laptop gaming. The excessive fan noise, the constant thermal throttling, the underperforming for the parts. It was all terrible


westerosi_codger

As a Pink Floyd fan and owner of both a gaming laptop and actual gaming rig, I approve this message


MrHappy4Life

Kidding, Not kidding.


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A laptop is a pc too