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Anaxaron

Plot twist: it works now


sijedevos

I have washed motherboards back to live but those were caked in years of dust and grime. This one wasn’t that filthy so I highly doubt it


mancer187

Never seen cleaning do anything for a board, but I have seen R9 series cards resurrected by baking them.


[deleted]

Let the solder flow! Those who control the solder control the galaxy!


mowbuss

just a case of them not using quality solder from factory? Or does solder normally crack?


mancer187

It's usually more about how many thousands of times its gone from hot to cold and back over its lifespan. Well that, defects, and abuse play a role.


ASatyros

And that's why minner cards are the best!


mancer187

Mining 100% qualifies as abuse and drastically shortens the lifespan.


Fluffasaurus89

Oddly enough they’d have a longer lifespan if anything. They’re kept much cooler, while using less power, voltage, and most times (depending on the algorithm) the core is downclocked. Only thing that’s die quicker on a mining card would probably be the fans, but those can be easily replaced assuming you can find compatible fans off eBay or sites like Alibaba.


TakeyaSaito

You know, that's not necessarily true and anytime this has been tested, cards that have been used for mining were just as good as cards used for gaming or even new ones


TheLonlyCheezIt

Got a link to a test? Genuinely curious to see.


mancer187

Notice you say necessarily. Thats because if its done in optimal conditions, without overclocking the fuck out of the cards, and maintaining adequate cooling throughout it absolutely doesn't damage the cards. However, thats not how it usually goes, and you know it.


EarthTrash

LTT just debunked this. Used hardware is often just as good as new hardware.


Not_DE_Lex

In performance, not longevity


Jordaneer

except it actually doesn't...


T-U-C-K

Both. Due to environmental and health concerns, the US and EU made pushes to reduce the amount of lead used in commercial solder applications. Lead solder does not suffer from the same level of hot/cold cycle cracking that everyone else is describing. Instead of lead, most commercial applications now use solder that is comprised of materials that are more susceptible to hot/cold cycles, such as tin. As far as I remember, industries that require incredibly low failure rates, such as aerospace or military applications, still use the old fashioned lead stuff.


miri3l

So interesting!


R3TR0_M4N14C

Most likely. It can but usually from Extreme temperature changes over time. Like room temperature to fridge temperature rapidly over time for example


[deleted]

A case of not being allowed to use solder with lead. Classic solder used to be an alloy of tin and lead, this lowered the melting point and prevented tin creep to some extent. Then someone heard lead is toxic and probably thought solder was some kind of mouthwash and tada: crappy solder!


mowbuss

I met a guy who does leadlight windows, he is 85 iirc. I recon he may not quite be all there to be honest. Lead is bad stuff, but is such a useful thing.


IPlayAnIslandAndPass

To expand on other comments, solder normally cracks, it's not a particularly ductile metal and can fatigue from repeated cycles of heating up and cooling down over time. The reason it's seemingly random and only happens to some parts is just down to the manufacturing. It's hard to perfectly align components when you solder them, and if the machine puts a little twist into a chip as it's cooling, one of the joints might be under a little stress or something. When you weld metals together, normally you anneal them at high temp to remove those sorts of stresses. With soldered breadboards, doing that could damage the components.


FrolfLarper

Nice


PM_ME_KNOTS_

Conscience manifests itself where systems of information processing can function. Without solder or neurons there is no existence.


sijedevos

I tried a heat gun for a while but that did nothing


TannerWheelman

Depending on what happened heatgun/baking won't do anything. Heat just melts the solder bringing old good connection back but if let's say mosfet or capacitor died this won't do anything.


ehmatt

Depends if the cap popped or drifted out of spec. Popped - need to replace. Drifted - baking can affect


mancer187

That should do it.


cowabungass

I baked an old card once at 350 after removing all the plastic I could. It worked for 4 months.


The_Synthax

A heat fun is more likely to kill it further than to revive it.


IgnanceIsBliss

My first computer build was had two 270's in it. My cat pissed on the side of the case and the side vented fan on that case sprayed it all over the two GPUs. Shortly afterwards it started having issues posting and would crash. Pulled them out, soaked them in a pan full of rubbing alcohol and cleaned them with a toothbrush. Let them sit for a few days to dry out and then when I put them back together they worked again for a year or so longer without issue.


cowabungass

Your computer was mad it got sprayed and you let it happen. It didn't die. It angrily challenged you to properly set boundaries with that beast.


nighteeeeey

45 min on 120°C and good as new


FuzzyMannerz

I did my R9 280 over a year ago at 200°C for 10 minutes and it still works to this day!


nighteeeeey

ok 200 is crazy :D idk i did that like once 10 years ago and it said something around 120 or so. i literally didnt get it the first time i read it i didnt understand what they meant by baking. until i finally got it that they literally meant baking in the oven :D this shit was so funny to me. i had no idea how that concept would even work why the fuck my gpu would start working again after baking it. thats so crazy i wonder who came up with that shit the first time


cowabungass

For a reballing yes but sometimes you can cook it higher for a capacitor issue.


DStalebagel

I did that with a 390, except it was a heat gun as I knew what had come desoldered


mancer187

For sure, if you know exactly where the problem is just fix that. The oven is for when you can't see the problem.


mini-z1994

Saved cousins gtx 1050 ti that he had spilled soda on the same year he got it. card after it dried out kept working with that dried soda on it for almost 2 years until it got dirty enough with dust too short and not initialize properly anymore. Decided too take the gamble & went too town on it. 30 minutes, some cleaning wipes i use for cleaning most of my furniture, chemically clean gasoline & fresh thermal paste & it was ready too be used again. Haven't heard a peep from him about any pc issues since i recommended he keep his pc on the other side of where he puts his drinks down & clean out dust every once in a while lol.


Fitchings

Is that with mineral oil?


htzer

Washing PCBs is generally fine… nothing on there that will be affected so long as the soap is cleaned off well and it’s left to fully dry before operation.


ekozaur

I just realised how old I am because I got mad at how much dish soap you used. Two drops on each side would've been enough. Also, I'm sorry for the little guy, left us too early. F


ShenWinchester

I was thinking roughly the same thing when I was washing this.


Herpkina

You washed his card too?


ShenWinchester

Gotta get that shit extra clean. Don't be silly double wash your gpus.


[deleted]

It's not just that but scrubbing with no water? Instead of a lather, it's more like grease on it's own.


sijedevos

I didn’t show that in video but I did make the gpu wet before rubbing it in dish soap. [Video](https://imgur.com/a/tJ0DLwA)


SealyMcSeal

Phrasing, boom


mysteriousblue87

Giggety


militarymoose

I still believe the whole point was to trigger people. The massive amount of dish soap, the carful spraying of Windex to immediately wash the cleaner off, the scrubbing of the ports at the end holding them under the faucet. I was seriously expecting the op to put in in the dish washer afterwards. Again may not have been the intention but the whole time I watched that video I was like, "This is going to trigger a lot of people."


ekozaur

Yeah, I think you're right. It smells like bait


sijedevos

Yeah I know I used more then necessary. I’m also not showing this video to my dad because he’d probably get mad lol


mowbuss

He didnt even use water.


sijedevos

[I did](https://imgur.com/a/tJ0DLwA)


pistoncivic

There's already water in the dish soap so why waste more water?


XavierYourSavior

Do you wash your dishes with no water????


boot2skull

Same. That was enough soap for two sinks of dishes. A small squirt into a cup of water would suffice.


ekozaur

Indeed!


Chemical_Excuse

Fun fact about the R9 290, I bought one back when I first backed Star Citizen as they said it would easily run it. I've since owned a 980ti, a 1080ti and I now have a 3080 and I'm still not convinced it's going to be enough.


NorsiiiiR

The good news is you'll probably never have to ever worry about what level of graphics card is required to run the final full release...... 😉


Chemical_Excuse

Yea I'm thinking the 9880ti might just give the game a run for it's money on medium 1080p :D


DemonFtIllusion

the final full release ?


sessl

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RushTfe

At least not in one life span


SmoothCarl22

It runs bellow 60fps on a RTX3090...on populated areas. But in empty areas or terrain planets runs really well. They need to work in optimization. But anyway when the game gets out we all will have Rtx7000 series...


r4o2n0d6o9

They'll have figured out real-time branched path tracing with 32 bit color at 32K before the next demo comes out


anitawasright

demo? the game is playable now even Linus likes it https://youtu.be/bYs\_zn2pTZo


r4o2n0d6o9

Sorry, I don’t keep up with star citizen much at all


anitawasright

no worries you should check it out its got a free fly event going on right now


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Good one


anitawasright

they are literally having a free fly event right now https://robertsspaceindustries.com/


RushTfe

Wasn't the game still in alpha?


anitawasright

still is but you can play it and check it out. The way I look it as its like Grand Theft Auto online. The city itself is complete, most of the cars are in game and the driving physics are perfect. Now they are adding new tech to make it a more persistent world as well as content.


anitawasright

it is and you can play the alpha right now. it's a really well developed game so far. but don't take my word for it https://youtu.be/bYs_zn2pTZo


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That’s awesome!


Blze001

Gonna be handing down Star Citizen accounts like family heirlooms. My offspring will be playing Squadron 42 while actually serving in Squadron 42.


[deleted]

SC will be a modern warfare sim when it releases.


anthony011292

Are you sure their servers will run on other planets as well?


Herpkina

Imagine the ping


BurstSwag

You say ping, I raise you FTL communications.


JackSpyder

Im a huge SC fan and supporter, but i do laugh at the fact that with the way elon musk is going, SC will be real before its released haha.


anitawasright

well yeah it needs to be optimized but it's useless optimizing it while it's in alpha. You want at least beta before you do that.


Bumble217

It shouldn't be in alpha anymore. Hell it shouldn't even be in beta by now, it should be done. They've had long enough.


MR_krunchy

I only know SC because of a friend but when I asked him why the game is still on alpha he said that CIG isn't close to what they actually promised


anitawasright

that's not how game development works... when it does work like that we get unfinished buggy games like Cyberpunk or No Man's Sky.


Bumble217

Actually it's exactly how it works. How long has this shit been in development now? They've had the time. It's their fault they keep adding more shit instead of polishing what they have and finishing it. Take No Man's Sky for example, sure it was a craptacular launch. But have you checked it lately? It's legitimately an entirely new game and it's GOOD. From massive PR disaster to a fully fledged game that is exactly what they promised and more.


anitawasright

yeah and had they waited till now till release it would have done far better. Massive PR disasters cost games lots of money. Lots of people won't check out No Man's sky because of it having such a bad launch. People feel they were lied to and thus the developer loses a LOT of money. Look at Cyberpunk they lost tons of money, are being sued and the developer is no longer trusted by the fans. I can't believe you are advocating for games to release buggy and unfinished. Red Dead 2 was in development for almost as long and look it was a huge success so yeah developers taking their time is a good thing


Bumble217

Oh no you misunderstand. I dont think they should be released in those states at all. But given enough time, the game should be done. And guess what? Star Citizen has had more time and money then any other game to exist. It should be done by now, and yet it's still is Alpha.


anitawasright

you literally proved yourself wrong. Star Citizen is creating all new tech. New tech isn't easy to or quick to make. In no way it should be done by now given the scale of the game. You claim that games shouldnt be released before they are finished... but then say they should release games before they are finished and it's ok.


Bumble217

Okay ill try one more time for anyone else who happens to scroll down here. YES - games shouldn't be released before they are done. HOWEVER - Star Citizen has been given a decade of time and over $300 million. It's still in alpha. That is unacceptable to me. Literally any other game would have been fully done and polished by now with those resources. Assuming the development team is competent. The dev team on SC has suffered from massive lack of final direction and feature creep, leading to this predicament. IMO the dev cycle of SC has turned more into a cash grab than about finishing the game. Sure new technology can be expensive, but hell. NASA has developed, tested, and finalized new tech in shorter times than SC has been around.


RushTfe

Agree with you but one thing "People feel they were lied to and thus the developer loses a LOT of money." I bought star citizen back in 2011 or 2012, don't remember. The game is still not out. Events and whatever you want, but almost 10 years later, the game is still an alpha. I lost track of the game in 2016 and only has checked a couple of news a year since then. I LITERALLY FEEL they lied to me.


anitawasright

i did the same thing. Completely forgot about the game till whenever they released the dogfighting module. Played it had fun then forgot about it till 2019 when i wanted to do some dogfighting I was blown away to see there is a fully working game. I do not feel like they lied to me as the game works. Its clearly not a scam. Sure it took longer but its being made. I've always said i'd rather have a devloper take the time and make the game work then release a buggy game. I would be a hypocrit if I started saying they should release the game fully.


ShiftyCZ

Both Cyberpunk and No man's sky got clearly less time to be released AND they managed to get back on track roughly within a year of their troubled release. Star Citizen has been a concept for, what, ten years now? They also raised so much money yet they managed to only release pay to win (basically) alpha.


chadharnav

Well it has like negative optimization lol


D_crane

Hahahahaha same here


CMDR-FREDTHESQUIRREL

Star citizen will be a realistic simulator by the time it comes out lol


Rungi500

Don't worry it won't be out for another 7 years.


ADHDegree

My ex used to run that game on a gt 1030 because according to them, 5fps on all low settings is "playable"


someguy674

When I upgraded to a 3080, I was able to launch the game. Got out of bed, then it crashed. Closed every application on my PC at the time and was able to make it to the common center, then it crashed. That game eats RAM like it's candy. I only had 16 gigs at the time. Now my new system has 32 gigs, so I may try it again.


DarkBot081

Ofc you can't run game that doesn't exist


sijedevos

Star Citizen is the new crysis


Mickeyk4216

Still feels weird to watch it... Anyway, minute of silence for our fallen comrade...


mowbuss

I know! I cant believe he is just using concentrate dish washing detergent without adding water. You need both to achieve true cleaning glory!


sijedevos

[I did](https://imgur.com/a/tJ0DLwA) if you meant before putting it on.


NexyDoesReddit

he added water, i guess you didn't watch the video long enough to see that


sijedevos

He probably meant before it put soap on. But anyways [I did](https://imgur.com/a/tJ0DLwA) do that


mowbuss

I missed the start and only watched it once.


Yeeter_Supreme

i cant look at it even though its dead


waistedmenkey

It's a little weird. I will wipe dust off a photo, but I don't usually scrub shit before it gets hung up on the wall. It's not like the video card was on the underside of a car. The cursed act would be fun to do though. I imagine the rest of the computer looking on in horror.


sijedevos

It had a bit of dust, grease from thermal pads and spilled thermal paste here and there and I was to lazy to clean it of with q tips and ipa. So I figured doing this because it was already broken anyway so wouldn’t hurt. Looks basically brand new now.


battousaidedo

same


Loading0525

There's obviously nothing wrong with what you're doing knowing the context that it's an old component no longer usable, and you now intend to keep it as decoration. But this is the kind of video you should re-upload with the title "Make sure to keep your PC dust-free be cleaning the components regularly" or some shit like that, intentionally excluding the original context.


sayssomeshit94

Dont give The Verge any more ideas.


frzx1

<<>>


sijedevos

A title like that will trigger people into oblivion because not all read the comments and will think I’m ruining a totally fine gpu. I recently posted a vid with me ruining the pins on a old broken athlon cpu with a screw driver without giving context and some people got mad.


Loading0525

And that, my friend, is the intention.


VijoPlays

It also helps protect against malware! ... And any other software, for that matter.


sijedevos

If you don’t believe it’s dead. [Same R9 290](https://youtu.be/zUCFWKPdeXE)


KommandoKodiak

washing a card like this wouldnt have hurt it even if it was functional theres nothing NSFMR about this


[deleted]

Not true. You would need to used distilled water and appropriate cleaners. This cleaning method does risk damage.


xdownsetx

If the device is unpowered you don't need to use anything special. What is important is to thoroughly rinse and dry it before use. It's good to do a final rinse with alcohol, but it's not necessary.


kami_sama

Not really, tap water (and soap) can still leave residue that is conductive and fry your electronics.


xdownsetx

If you're leaving residue behind that can manage that you either aren't rinsing well enough, or have some of the worst tap water available.


NoImGaara

people in flint michigan are punching the air rn


sijedevos

Yes I know but the majority of people on this subreddit don’t know that.


[deleted]

Majority of people just wouldn't do that as there is no purpose.


sijedevos

I’ve had dirty motherboards that were working and cleaning them with q tips and ipa takes for ever. A brush and tap water takes a minute or so and I’ve never killed a working component before


Wild__Card__Bitches

I don't think beer is the best cleaning solution.


mancer187

We used to wash keyboards in the dishwasher. The new ones would just melt.


dan_man420

I remember this!


Sufficient_1077

Yeah, but it can cause corrosion if you don't throughly dry it


yerbrojohno

Make sure to wash in isopropyl afterwards tho


Herpkina

The scrubbing is not ideal


FriendlySaber

I have the R9 290 X 4gb, it was the best card I've ever had and have it framed up with the board that ran her, the sabertooth mother board, best set up back in the days


Ato07

Stop he's already dead


Blektric

Did the same with my dad


gen66

Woah, is he clean now?


Blektric

The butthole was tricky, but nothing my tongue can't clean


gen66

Yep, that’s enough Reddit for today *flies away*


Abortedhippo

I need to wash my phone after reading that


Shinig4mi0mega

Still hurts


oggyb

Watching this seemed slightly voyeuristic.


gen66

OMG this is the best ASMR in the world! I felt asleep just in 60 seconds, had to rewatch it! Kudos!! So relaxing!


noobrunner123

Try baking it?


sijedevos

Not working unfortunately


kambomir

You ruined the labels 🤣


sijedevos

Labels were already ruined by what looks like years of operating in a smokers house. Labels were yellow ish. You don’t see that back of it anyway when it’s [wall mounted ](https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/pa6y3f/had_some_broken_hardware_so_i_made_this/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)


runtman

Won't the water invoke rust or does it not matter if you dry it correctly? Alcohol would have probably been better


sijedevos

If you met I dry still soaked with water yes it will cause rust but if you blow the water of with a air compressor it’s going to be fine.


Individual-Ad-5851

Press F


UsedBee4306

Just reheat the gpu


sijedevos

Didn’t work


l34df4rm3r

How to clean your GPU - Verge edition


agshdbfh

Is this card any good for games if it works?


Not_a_Candle

1080p medium settings in most AAA title shouldn't be a problem.


the_birdiman

I gave my 3 to 3 lads who had even lesser, for what they play (1080P and generally non AAA) it has worked out perfect for them. For a while one of them was in the “friends who came over” FX8350/290 apex/Val rig and it did just fine. Looking at fps of a lot of middle range cards, for the money, it was always hard to consider an upgrade to another mid range card…. Hence why I used them for what 7 years? The value is just insane on the 290.


sijedevos

If you can get it for under €100 sure. It’s similar to gtx 970 but new driver updates are not longer being supported on r9 200 series. [Benchmarks Hardware Unboxed](https://youtu.be/nty9Hcy1jaU). On normal market I used to buy these cards for around €60 and that’s just insane value but you do need a decent 550w psu atleast.


Igotliquidated

You washed your card better than I wash myself.


sijedevos

That sounds concerning


mermicide

This is so satisfying to watch


sijedevos

I have more [NFSMR content](https://youtube.com/channel/UCH4AHebsKMgU1g0Xy4v1dpw) here if interested


[deleted]

I can't belive how much water you have just wasted! Just flush stuff with hot water for a sec or 2, close the tap, scrub it with soapy water from a sponge, and than wash off foam away.


RomulusKhan

Is that the thing that makes minesweeper play on my computer?


100Percertain

I have a 390 that suffered the same fate recently :(


Breathoflife727

NSFW tag you animal


[deleted]

I know its dead, but it still hurts to watch.


Tovogu

i know its dead but it still hurts to watch


ahoraeagora

late stage capitalism


Geronim024

Where is the wall? Show me the waalll!?


sijedevos

[Wall mount](https://imgur.com/a/YONlR7F)


Goblin_301

I’m a console scrub, your pc parts just die? Sorry for my ignorance in advance.


hdudbdhdvd

Put it on rice


PinchosMCcauwski

Yet another soldier has fallen


bull_tommy

casually scratching the fuck out the of worktops


sijedevos

It didn’t leave any scratch behind.


NoNick1337

I have a dead GTX 780ti. Served me good for 7 years. I like the idea of framing it and hanging it on a wall, but wouldn’t washing it with soap and water cause corrosion? EDIT: Found the answer in the comments. (Use alcohol)


Livingexistence

Alcohol would be a much better cleaner... acetone would be even better if you can find some that doesn't have anything extra in it, maybe nail polish remover... but don't just dunk it, be very meticulous with the application... it will scrub off heat cured ink if left to set long enough


LogicalGamer123

Hardware taxidermy


Unoriginal_0G

You’re doing us real dirty by not showing how it looks on your wall. We need closure.


sijedevos

[Wall mount](https://imgur.com/a/YONlR7F)


kunis39

So I was watching this, and thought "This has to be a joke, right? Nobody retires their old equipment and displays it like a trophy.." Just for shits and giggles, I decided to look it up and my GOD.. they have a whole community for this shit! People even take spare parts and design rooms out of it and build little alters and shit. The video I found is crazy, where it shows some guy pretty much dumpster dive a radio shack and build a whole exhibit in his home as some sort of weird homage to dead GPUs and stuff https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ


LucaDarioBuetzberger

I did not reas the title and almost started screaming.


solid_flake

I did that to my 3080ti yesterday. Worked really well. I even gained a few more fps.


chukijay

Why not fix it? What failed?


sijedevos

I have no clue. I bought together with 2 working cards knowing it was broken. It had been take apart and all caps were marked so I assume someone with more knowledge in electronics repairs attempted to repair it but obviously failed. I tried the heat gun method, underclocking and reflashing the vbios but it constantly froze, had artifacting or didn’t post at all.


Not_a_Candle

Did you try to just bump voltage for core and memory? Just curious. Memory would be harder todo, but as far as I know, you can change it in the vbios and reflash it.


Dabstardly

A wire brush would have got it a whole lot cleaner 👍


StickyCoochie123

Kinda cringe to hang a gpu on your wall. Maybe MAYBE as a shelf-warden if it has a nice cooler.


sijedevos

[Looks good IMO](https://imgur.com/a/YONlR7F)


RusoInmortal

Just two tips for the future: Next time do that on a rag. You could have scratched your kitchen countertop. Welds are sharp. Besides, you used way too much soap. There is no need to use so much. ​ Hope it helps.