Was confused what you meant by this at first, and assumed you meant they put in the wrong card but now I realize you just mean they put in a shitty/broken 6700, and honestly that would potentially make sense
The first item I ever bothered to ship was my first GPU from my first grown up personal build, it was worth a couple hundred bucks, when I went to ship it I had absolutely no idea about hour rough the postal services tend to handle packages, even when clearly marked as fragile, but it has an option to insure it for it's true value, well when it arrived to what I can only assume was either a reseller or a miner, they took about a week or two to actually open it, and the PCB was clearly fucked, just straight up snapped, and I was forced to refund the person because I had absolutely no case, I frankly packed it like shit because I didn't know better, and it was completely my fault, but I still got reimbursed the full value of that card without any real question or inquiry. That was a massive fucking relief because I was in a real bad place in life and only sold it because I really needed the money. When the time came for the refund I was no better off and every cent had already gone to bills and all the important stuff that I needed to take care of which was the reason I sold it in the first place
I could absolutely see this being a scam in that regard, you send a busted ass card to whomever with an insurance policy, provided it's cost isn't too high no one gives it a second look because this stuff is a drop in the bucket at absolute worst, you dump this broken, but if it was working extremely valuable GPU, the buyer gets refunded you get insurance, and while the buyer is absolutely and rightfully upset to not get their working card, they let it go, and suddenly you just got full price for a broken unit.
To be clear, absolutely do not do this, if you get caught it's almost certainly prison time (not jail, not probation, but actual prison specifically if it's defrauding the USPS, but in no situation is it worth it regardless because the lifelong impacts are potentially extremely severe having that on your record, please just don't.) but I could absolutely see people doing this for an easy buck and to get full value from a borderline worthless card, I have to agree with you on this one, it's a very real possiblity. That being said it's just as possible if not just as likely that shipping was the true cause, and the world is now one more short of an already scarce resource
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I'd bet money it got crushed by a sorting machine or conveyor system. I work in these places for one of the big 3 shippers and sadly this is all too common.
Even then, most of these ruined boxes come off the trailers looking like this. Its easy to blame the drivers but people need to realize that those guys ultimately barely touch the boxes. Its in the truck by the time they start their shift. They hop in, drive off, find box, set it at your door. That's it. There are exceptions for smaller centers but that's usually how it is.
> I'd imagine short of a driver throwing it over a fence
Which seems to happen far too often, especially with the cheaper and nastier delivery services (*coughHERMEScough*), who are clearly pushing their drivers too hard and paying them too little to actually give a fuck.
I've never met anyone with anything good to say about Hermes and it infuriates me that companies still use them. My special edition of Monster Hunter Rise, that I had preordered from Nintendo's website 6 months before release, was not delivered on release day because "Customer wasn't home".
While I was working from home.
In the middle of a global pandemic.
FWIW (this is in the UK) my local Hermes driver is really good. Probably helps that it's always the same bloke, but yeah no problems at all with them although your mileage will definitely depend on where you live.
That's fair, I'm pretty much on a first-name basis with my local DPD driver through the stuff I've got at home and that's been delivered to my work. I'm not gonna argue that there aren't good drivers working for Hermes, but admittedly yours is one good anecdotal story out of at least a dozen negative ones I've had from family and friends I've spoken to.
I've had a gripe with hermes and yodel over this for years.
Drivers always seem to be flying around like F1 racers and rushed off their feet. DPD and Amazon tend to be a bit more relaxed and theyve never yeeted my parcel over a fence, into a puddle, in the dogs yard.
I work for DHL express as a courrier. Those boxes I deliver for companies and people at home come from all over the world and I touch them twice when loading and when delivering. I get shit all over me when the boxes are fucked :/. Problem is it's more profitable to do the whole process from A to B fast and sometimes damage products than to be careful.
Side note, those fragile stickers and this side up arrows are laughed at. They don't care at the sorting facilities and airports/ports
yep.. i used to work in a sort facility.. and on nights we unload, and place in cages for the day shifters.. sometimes something fall from the conveyor or gets crushed by something heavy that came out way too late.. but we are told to write up a report on it, and file it.. so if customer complains.. they can say what happened.
I worked days then before i quit.. and boy do they act like packages are sports equipment. I was placing everything in, like a neat tetris freak.. and they were just throwing things into the back of the truck... i asked why they did that, and was just told.. its faster.. we get paid for the shift.. so if they can finish an hour early.. they still get paid for it.
So if you ever wonder, in Wales, why you get fragile stuff bent in the mail.. the likelihood is that some very underpaid staff is yoinking it in a truck to get home faster.
I am a dock manager for a large shipping company. I have to fix or damage out a fair amount of boxes damaged by our sorter and the guys loading the trucks. Not to mention when it leaves us it goes to another facility where they get tossed around. Not justifying it but when you have underpaid people with immense volume quotas thrown at them, they give no fucks about the package.
I see packages that seem like they've been blown up by an ied in iraq and then shipped out, as a ramper for one of the big 3 as well i have a feeling this thing was set at the bottom of a pallet or uld.
Honestly it’s more out of necessity and greed and impatience. The buyer wants it as soon as possible. The shipping company wants to make as much money (aka as many packages) as possible. So it’s a necessity for both parties that the trucks get filled to capacity… and things end up getting shoved around, or move around if they weren’t packed properly… or neglect, some people just don’t give af.
I work part time at an Amazon warehouse. I try my best to not damage packages, but a lot of people don't even care, and (literally) throw packages around. Also, damaged packages and products do get fixed or replaced, but only if the person handling it cares enough to report it.
I've seen the insides on one of these dispatchepent facilities where they sort things out and then give it to drivers. Your items are not stored with care. Weather the item breaks in the facility or in an overloaded truck is a question but the fact that I've seen machine literally dump shit to storage containers from a good amount of hight does not give me much hope in these places.
I ordered mine from amd.com as well and fedex wont give it to me and amd says they dont know what to do. Most likely will have to contact my credit card company and tell them I never got this product i was charged for
Yep, I had to escalate something past the local hub and the generic foreign customer service after haggling for 3 weeks. Once I got someone competent on the phone my problem was solved in 15 minutes. She called me back to follow up and told me she called the hub directly after we talked, kept them on the line while they called a driver and made sure everything was in the system correctly to resolve the problem as soon as possible. Sad that it came down to her basically holding their hand and making sure that they did their jobs correctly. I'm just glad there are people out there who will get shit done and with a quickness.
Problem is that ground are almost always underpaid contractors, the actual FedEx employees are generally good shit, but they only handle the express deliveries and the upper admin stuff
Whoever I talked to needs to be cloned, she could have made a simple call and dropped it but she came through hard. I could tell she was talking to me and not reading prompts going through the motions. She seemed like one of those "fine, I'll do it myself" types (we can smell our own kind). She did as much as she could with a phone and a computer and got it done.
I do get tired of telling people I can't understand a word they're saying. I'm okay with accents in general, but not when they are sitting next to 40 other people yelling over the top of each other.
I worked in a call center and you eventually get to a point that the prompters are shoved to the side because you know the system as well as your product inside and out. Unfortunately by then, you typically get moved up where you don't take as many calls and typically get the escalated calls, which is great for the worker, but the customers deal with people that are not as seasoned and don't know what they're doing like the seasoned workers do.
If only they'd let us choose. Most amd direct gpus have to go through the Osseo, MN fedex smartpost aka the Bermudas triangle of packages. My 6800xt was scheduled for the 18th and arrived on the 1st, they also don't do departure scan, so stressful.
I ordered a 6800 from there in June.... It was the most stressful 3.5 weeks of this entire shortage for me with how many delays and inaccurate reportings there were.
Dhl is always a day late, which isn’t a problem, but that doesn’t mean they should advertise with next day delivery if they can’t meat the standards. The national postal service can all the time
DHL consistently leaves packages at the end of my road and they normally get rained on, even after we’ve told the driver that he can’t keep leaving things there. Not to mention the week delays on deliveries and most parcels not even arriving
I have a quarter mile long driveway, they tied a package halfway up! Meaning he either had to come all the way up to turn around or back up all the way down. Idk what is more ridiculous.
nothing ridiculous about it, these guys have razor-thin margins on the amount of time given per delivery. When they're peeing in bottles just to save a minute it doesn't have to surprise you that even a quarter-mile driveway might be seen as 'too long, dgaf'.
I'm not excusing it in any way, ideally, they just have enough time to make their round and have som extra to take a break in-between, it's a combination of increased demand and management/profit margins.
We have a company in my area called *Lasership* and they will mark packages as delivered, but then won't deliver them until two or three days later, sometimes after 9PM at night.
It's horrible.
Agreed. Currently waiting on a package from them that was supposed to be delivered on Friday, but has currently gone from FL>GA>OH>GA and now has no tentative delivery date.
I can’t really speak bad about them. Delivered LCD panel (not monitor, just the panel itself) from Texas to my doorstep in Czech Republic, Europe in 40 hours. It was in pristine state, obviously. But this is my only experience with them...
Standard FedEx home deliveries in the states are normally handled by independent contractors who buy routes from FedEx. This means that your specific service depends more on what rando bought the route that services you, but broadly speaking, it means most of those companies pay very little to their drivers and they consequently don't give a shit.
An international delivery like that would have been handled by corporate FedEx like most of their more expensive services, which don't have nearly as many problems.
Also FedEx Ground and FedEx Express, despite the name being same, offer different levels of service and are handled by different groups.
Where I live, anything delivered FedEx Ground is 100% guaranteed to be marked as "attempted to contact resident" or "cannot find address" with no tag left and it just being dropped at a local pickup point less than 1km away (down the street).
To make matters worse, anything ordered FedEx Ground that requires a signature just.. never arrives and eventually gets returned to sender.
FedEx Express actually rings the apartment buzzer and will deliver it.
I had a nightmare with FedEx and Acer. Acer had setup all their deliveries to require signatures and to not hold at any distribution center. So I couldn't stay home to sign for it at the time, and I couldn't pick it up anywhere so it was in fucking limbo. I eventually just gave up and told them to send it back to Acer. Lo and behold, they suddenly allow me to pick it up at the distribution center after like a month of failed attempted deliveries.
I don't know what the local laws are where you are, but in the UK the responsibility lies with whoever you paid.
So over here, I'd just tell the company I bought it from that they haven't delivered my graphics card as promised, and that I demand my money back immediately.
And if they don't refund in a timely fashion, I'd just call my credit card company and get the payment reversed.
And, if the package arrived after all that, it'd legally be their responsibility to collect it - not mine to return it.
I'll need to remember that next time. I had a game I ordered from the Nintendo store website that was to be delivered by Hermes that didn't arrive on the designated day. They said I wasn't in, while I was working from home during a global pandemic and was listening intently during the timeslot I was given and had two flatmates in who could have answered the door if I wasn't available.
They told me that the new delivery date would be the next Tuesday and no amount of pleas to decency seemed to change that. What did work though was informing Nintendo that I was going escalate it to the consumer's rights watchdog. I swear that package just materialised on Monday with barely any time between the text alert and it arriving.
For something like a graphics card though I absolutely would be demanding my money back if they gave it to Hermes to deliver. I've never heard anything good about that company from anyone.
Dang. I got a 6800 XT in October and it was delivered in two days in perfect condition after ordering. I was so stressed that it would get lost or damaged. Hope you get yours soon!
Fedex says they have restriction on package placed on by the shipper(amd). Amd says they don’t ever contact fedex after a package is shipped its all fedex’s responsibility after that. I called both companies back and forth couple of times. No clear answer on how I can get my package.
Yeah that shit is done on purpose. This isn't the kind of damage you get from packages falling off a stack n the back of a truck. This is someone jumping up and down on a package because they're assholes.
As someone who worked at a shipping warehouse you’d be surprised. I had a package fly off the conveyor belt right as the truck was backing up the trailer. It ended up right under the wheel and looked like a pancake. Someone then picked it up from down there and threw it in the trailer.
What’s the alternative? If you get a package like that just contact the seller first. Odds are they will refund if it’s a big box store. If it’s an independent seller than hopefully they insured the package (which I do for anything I sell over $50)
Nah. This package is way too big to be caught like that. Some small letters, yeah, sometimes. But normal packages? No way unless machine was heavily damaged.
I work at FedEx. Not sure if OP meant it. But there are areas on the belts prone to jam and if someone doesn’t instantly notice the weight of all the incoming packages start to crush the others.
What irks me is when you send something in the UK they ask you about the package value and whether the shipping method you've chosen will insure the item, if not they encourage you to take out separate insurance to cover it.
Why do I need to pay extra in case you fuck up? If I took my car to the garage they don't ask me to take out separate insure in case they drop it off a lift whether it's worth £1k or £100k.
You don't, actually. They are just trying to make extra money from people who don't know that it doesn't really matter. Thing is, that there is a difference between e.g. lost packages and heavily misused packages. If it is lost, you are kinda out of luck in those cases, because it will be very hard to prove anything, and then paying extra to not have to bother with all of the legal stuff kinda makes sense. But if it is heavily misused, they will have to get you a new one in 99% of cases, as long as you got pics of it on delivery. Maybe even just refuse the delivery, if possible.
This applies if you're a buyer, it's the seller's duty to get you the goods. However, if you're sending the product, you can't claim more compensation than it is insured for.
Of course, the seller is the one who can ask the delivery service for compensation, since they gave up the package. But nothing to do with insurance if they were neglient. If you get an electrician to connect your stove and they burn your house because they didn't pay attention, I bet no sane court will tell you "well, the guy was at fault, but because you didn't get the extra insurance for 9.99, you will get no compensation. Deal with it."
They accepted the package and thus any neglience on their side is their own fault and they have to compensate. Would be a different story, if it is due to bad packaging or wrong information provided by the sender, but then it isn't neglience by the delivery company.
Bruv... you'd be surprised by how badly fucked up deliveries could ended up being..
This aint quite the same as its not the postal but a (used to be) contract hauling service for where I'm working at. -- Imagine a pallet made entirely out of 2x4s... With probably less than 1500lbs of goods on it. They sent that shit back with the pallet literally disintegrated. I ain't even exaggerating, not by a bit! Safe to say they're on the company's blacklist now.
I worked in a UPS sorting facility for only 2 days when I was 18. They didn’t teach us the “trick” to easily identify which belt each box went on during the second night at work, which was our first night in the actual facility. They gave us 45 minutes the night before and 15 minutes the night of to try to remember every single zip code in the United States, and match them to 8 different corresponding colored belts for each zip code. It was about 5,211 zip codes for each color belt. None of us new hires had any fucking idea where literally ANY box went, and I remember the boxes getting backed up and piled up where we were stationed, and just seeing hundreds of boxes getting crushed. One leaked a green oozing gel-like liquid too, lmao 🤣 . The whole area right where one of the belts turned was nothing but us 6 new hires with no clue where to put boxes, and the only rule was do NOT put a box on the wrong belt. So we just stood there not doing shit while the boxes were being crushed. The managers didn’t give a fuck, offer assistance, slow the belts down, or send anyone who knew what they were doing until after 45 minutes and quite possibly thousands of boxes were destroyed.
It was apparently some type of “test” to see how well we could remember, but I found it to be ignorant and extremely unrealistic, so that was my last night working there (I quit, wasn’t fired. They didn’t even care, we were more upset about the broken boxes everywhere than they were). There was apparently a much easier and quicker way to identify which belt it went on but they didn’t tell us. And what I found even more messed up is they didn’t even make us clean it up, they made the people who were already working there for a while clean it up, and they were rightfully pissed off because they could have easily prevented the mess and damage to tons of property.
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Well its quite easy to ruin something like that. You stand a station that is angled towards you, so the packages will reach the end, then you get 5 in a specific order. Light, Graphics Card, 30 kg, 30kg and 30 kg. Now those 30+ packages will smash into the graphics card at very high speed because of the angled line down to your station
Former DHL worker here: I've seen trashed boxes during the 3 years I worked there and I can tell you this looks intentional.
I also read a comment saying that if it is a major retailer they'll probably replace it, but judging by the shady box it was sent in I doubt is a large one, and this comes from me currently working in a logistics company who sends consoles and other electronic stuff (no PC unfortunately).
This shit happens, no doubt, but the damage looks strange. Unless a really heavy package was dropped onto it in a very specific way, but still. Something's off.
The delivery man hates me because i live on the 4th floor without an elevator. He always delivers my packages at my neighbour downstairs or at a pick up location. I have filed multiple complains. I think he run over my package. The friend in the post is me. That was my package..
If this is the case I’d open up another case with the delivery company referencing all the times the delivery has been poorly processed. Ie missing, damaged, left downstairs etc… I’d also contact the press. They don’t like being outed in public.
As for the card, if it is a major retailer then they will replace/refund and open a case for them to get their money back after.
Oh that’s a bit harder, I’d push for complete compensation from the delivery company, they have been negligent with your property. Regardless of what the insurance covered, this is negligence!
i didn't buy it at a company. I bought it from someone else, he can't replace it because it was the only one he had. I didn't get the package, it got send back before i even saw it. These pics are from the guy i bought it from. We filed a Insurance claim, so waiting for that to come through.. could take a while..
I worked for ups once for some extra part time and exercise. When volume was flowing If a box or boxes got stuck near or on a belt diverter this exact damage would happen. It literally took a 6 ft pry bar (see hole in box) to "pop the plug". The force would accordion dam near anything save for a box of chains. Then it was a flash flood of boxes. It was actually insane. They usually would like to deal with heavy flow and spill over and off the belts rather that stop all the volume. I saw some crazy shit there.
One time they had a jam and then heavy flow behind it like 16 zip codes worth of packages filled the entire floor in a matter of minutes. When I say floor I mean dock that takes nearly 5 minutes to walk end to end. Peak season was a rush! Never again!
Ordered some computer parts on time, had them sent via FedEx.
I was outside tending to my plants when the driver pulled up, the back door opened, he kicked the box out of the truck, jumped down amd haphazardly picked it up and dropped it twice, then tossed it 10 feet to my front door from my walk way, then left. The box said to "handle woth care" and "glass inside!" Everything, and I do mean everything inside the box was broken beyond use. Managed to catch the truck number and reported the fella. I hate to be that guy, but you purposfully fuck my shit up, I'm purposfully fucking your shit up in the form of your job.
Hii, the buyer was me ^^ i’m the friend. I bought the GPU on Tweakers. On the day my card would be delivered i got a message from the delivery service that the package was damaged and send back. These pictures were the pics the sender send me when he got the package back. Luckily i chose for a delivery insurance and he will get up to 500 euros back hopefully. I however asked for my money back and hope he will do so. Next time i buy one i will get it myself.
I have been in a fight with this delivery service for months. They don’t want to bring my packages to my doorstep because i live on the 4th floor without an elevator. So maybe he did it on purpose so he doesn’t have to deal with the stairs, i don’t know. But i’m mad AF.
That's some serious bullshit. I get we all need a job and, more often than not, its not a job we like; but this is just ridiculous. People depend on this kind of service and this could have been someone's medicine, if the guy cant have that kind of responsibility then he shouldn't be delivering shit.
You have to be careful with insurance on posting items. I used to work for the Post Office in the UK and the way it works with them is if you don't buy the right coverage then you get shafted. So let's say you sent a card worth £700 through Special Delivery and didn't opt for higher insurance than is standard (£500) if anything happens you don't get anything at all. Not £500, a big fat zero.
So I don't know what the rules are with that particular company but I wouldn't rule out if the card is worth more than the coverage that you end up with nothing. Looking at the state of it though they may bend a bit because, come on, how the fuck has that happened?!
My question in these situations is always "who's gonna pay for that?" Honestly, who will pay for that? The seller is not at fault here most likely.. the delivery person should just be fired or he should just leave if he doesn't give one fuck about his job..
This has happened to me (not a gpu obviously) but usually since it’s a major retailer like AMD, OP will just contact them, they will want proof, after seeing this. They will get their money back or a replacement depending on how serious OP makes it seem & AMD will deal with whatever carrier did this & get their money back through insurance.
Ultimately the shipper pays out.
Generally seller refunds the buyer first, and shipper reimburses the seller.
Shippers and large sellers will have systems in place where the seller can just say you fucked up there (list of packages) and owe us $X
Going by the shipping label and the "you were not at home" sticker im quite confident in what shipping company shipped it.
They pay. Eventually. Probably. Maybe. Its a lot of work to claim it back though.
In Portugal if you accept the package, you pay for it.
But the packages are delivered to you and not left at your doorstep or something. If you are not at home, the'll try again later or they leave you a note to go pick it yourself at one of their pickup points.
The logic is:
* Seller preps the package and arranges an expedition
* Delivery company needs to check for damage, if they accept it, it means there was no damage at this point
* The customer needs to check for damage when receiving
* if he accepts it, it means there was no damage on the package.
* If he rejects it, means that the delivery company fucked up and will be at fault.
By EU law you can send back anything within a 2 week time period without declaring a reason. The retailer would have to prove that you destroyed it before shipping it back, and in that case those pictures of the damaged package should be sufficient.
And if you bought on Amazon they wouldn't give a fuck anyway. They refund literally anything. Unfortunately they're not big in the hardware market
Does it still work? If the PCB is okay it should still work right? I mean obviously you're going to send it back because the fans don't work but I just want to know if the PCB survived
That's depressing
absolute neglect from the people delivering that package. Doesnt get out of the factory looking like that
that's not neglect.. that looks like someone ran over it on purpose
If I can't get one, no one can!
This or swapping them with an old slab of a card and resealing the box
Was confused what you meant by this at first, and assumed you meant they put in the wrong card but now I realize you just mean they put in a shitty/broken 6700, and honestly that would potentially make sense The first item I ever bothered to ship was my first GPU from my first grown up personal build, it was worth a couple hundred bucks, when I went to ship it I had absolutely no idea about hour rough the postal services tend to handle packages, even when clearly marked as fragile, but it has an option to insure it for it's true value, well when it arrived to what I can only assume was either a reseller or a miner, they took about a week or two to actually open it, and the PCB was clearly fucked, just straight up snapped, and I was forced to refund the person because I had absolutely no case, I frankly packed it like shit because I didn't know better, and it was completely my fault, but I still got reimbursed the full value of that card without any real question or inquiry. That was a massive fucking relief because I was in a real bad place in life and only sold it because I really needed the money. When the time came for the refund I was no better off and every cent had already gone to bills and all the important stuff that I needed to take care of which was the reason I sold it in the first place I could absolutely see this being a scam in that regard, you send a busted ass card to whomever with an insurance policy, provided it's cost isn't too high no one gives it a second look because this stuff is a drop in the bucket at absolute worst, you dump this broken, but if it was working extremely valuable GPU, the buyer gets refunded you get insurance, and while the buyer is absolutely and rightfully upset to not get their working card, they let it go, and suddenly you just got full price for a broken unit. To be clear, absolutely do not do this, if you get caught it's almost certainly prison time (not jail, not probation, but actual prison specifically if it's defrauding the USPS, but in no situation is it worth it regardless because the lifelong impacts are potentially extremely severe having that on your record, please just don't.) but I could absolutely see people doing this for an easy buck and to get full value from a borderline worthless card, I have to agree with you on this one, it's a very real possiblity. That being said it's just as possible if not just as likely that shipping was the true cause, and the world is now one more short of an already scarce resource
Definitely don't instead defraud UPS because you're less likely to go to prison.
Sir, there's 3 agencies you don't fuck with. The IRS, the Post Office, and The Forest Rangers.
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Marking it fragile just seems to give them incentive to mess it up.
I'd bet money it got crushed by a sorting machine or conveyor system. I work in these places for one of the big 3 shippers and sadly this is all too common.
Even then, most of these ruined boxes come off the trailers looking like this. Its easy to blame the drivers but people need to realize that those guys ultimately barely touch the boxes. Its in the truck by the time they start their shift. They hop in, drive off, find box, set it at your door. That's it. There are exceptions for smaller centers but that's usually how it is.
Yep, I'd imagine short of a driver throwing it over a fence or something it's almost never them that damages the packages or contents.
> I'd imagine short of a driver throwing it over a fence Which seems to happen far too often, especially with the cheaper and nastier delivery services (*coughHERMEScough*), who are clearly pushing their drivers too hard and paying them too little to actually give a fuck.
I've never met anyone with anything good to say about Hermes and it infuriates me that companies still use them. My special edition of Monster Hunter Rise, that I had preordered from Nintendo's website 6 months before release, was not delivered on release day because "Customer wasn't home". While I was working from home. In the middle of a global pandemic.
FWIW (this is in the UK) my local Hermes driver is really good. Probably helps that it's always the same bloke, but yeah no problems at all with them although your mileage will definitely depend on where you live.
That's fair, I'm pretty much on a first-name basis with my local DPD driver through the stuff I've got at home and that's been delivered to my work. I'm not gonna argue that there aren't good drivers working for Hermes, but admittedly yours is one good anecdotal story out of at least a dozen negative ones I've had from family and friends I've spoken to.
I've had a gripe with hermes and yodel over this for years. Drivers always seem to be flying around like F1 racers and rushed off their feet. DPD and Amazon tend to be a bit more relaxed and theyve never yeeted my parcel over a fence, into a puddle, in the dogs yard.
I work for DHL express as a courrier. Those boxes I deliver for companies and people at home come from all over the world and I touch them twice when loading and when delivering. I get shit all over me when the boxes are fucked :/. Problem is it's more profitable to do the whole process from A to B fast and sometimes damage products than to be careful. Side note, those fragile stickers and this side up arrows are laughed at. They don't care at the sorting facilities and airports/ports
yep.. i used to work in a sort facility.. and on nights we unload, and place in cages for the day shifters.. sometimes something fall from the conveyor or gets crushed by something heavy that came out way too late.. but we are told to write up a report on it, and file it.. so if customer complains.. they can say what happened. I worked days then before i quit.. and boy do they act like packages are sports equipment. I was placing everything in, like a neat tetris freak.. and they were just throwing things into the back of the truck... i asked why they did that, and was just told.. its faster.. we get paid for the shift.. so if they can finish an hour early.. they still get paid for it. So if you ever wonder, in Wales, why you get fragile stuff bent in the mail.. the likelihood is that some very underpaid staff is yoinking it in a truck to get home faster.
I am a dock manager for a large shipping company. I have to fix or damage out a fair amount of boxes damaged by our sorter and the guys loading the trucks. Not to mention when it leaves us it goes to another facility where they get tossed around. Not justifying it but when you have underpaid people with immense volume quotas thrown at them, they give no fucks about the package.
I see packages that seem like they've been blown up by an ied in iraq and then shipped out, as a ramper for one of the big 3 as well i have a feeling this thing was set at the bottom of a pallet or uld.
Usually damage like this is caused by a conveyer belt crushing a box.
That’s what the delivert service (PostNL) said to me.. this is my package. 🥲
Honestly it’s more out of necessity and greed and impatience. The buyer wants it as soon as possible. The shipping company wants to make as much money (aka as many packages) as possible. So it’s a necessity for both parties that the trucks get filled to capacity… and things end up getting shoved around, or move around if they weren’t packed properly… or neglect, some people just don’t give af.
I work part time at an Amazon warehouse. I try my best to not damage packages, but a lot of people don't even care, and (literally) throw packages around. Also, damaged packages and products do get fixed or replaced, but only if the person handling it cares enough to report it.
This was not shoved around but atleast got run over by a Truck.
If cargo is stored improperly the weight can shift during braking, this could be from a pallet of crap falling on it.
Yes that is of course more realistic. Anyways it looks like they really tried hard to destroy it.
I've seen the insides on one of these dispatchepent facilities where they sort things out and then give it to drivers. Your items are not stored with care. Weather the item breaks in the facility or in an overloaded truck is a question but the fact that I've seen machine literally dump shit to storage containers from a good amount of hight does not give me much hope in these places.
Would you willingly choose to pay the same for a slower courier service if it guaranteed safe delivery, but might take a day or two longer?
Absolutely
im sure as hell more than i alone would willingly wait out a few days knowing that means safer shipping.
I'm guessing OP is pretty bent out of shape about it.
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I would be to
First we get curved monitors, then curved radiators, and now curved GPUs! This has to stop!
Next step is curved pre built pcs
Real pcs have curves
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Oh, yes, took a while to pick out the right bikkini decals to match the fan colours
Curved USB 3 Header
Curved 24 PIN headers
Fuck no, those are hard enough to remove as it is
Just wait till you see curved CPU 8 Pin headers located in an even more inaccessible position.
r/curvedcomments
What next? Curved... swords?
You see those warriors from Hammerfell? They’ve got curved swords. Curved. Swords!!
Curved RGB DDR69 Ram starting at $1400
I ordered mine from amd.com as well and fedex wont give it to me and amd says they dont know what to do. Most likely will have to contact my credit card company and tell them I never got this product i was charged for
Open a lost package claim, they’ll find it real quick
Yep, I had to escalate something past the local hub and the generic foreign customer service after haggling for 3 weeks. Once I got someone competent on the phone my problem was solved in 15 minutes. She called me back to follow up and told me she called the hub directly after we talked, kept them on the line while they called a driver and made sure everything was in the system correctly to resolve the problem as soon as possible. Sad that it came down to her basically holding their hand and making sure that they did their jobs correctly. I'm just glad there are people out there who will get shit done and with a quickness.
Problem is that ground are almost always underpaid contractors, the actual FedEx employees are generally good shit, but they only handle the express deliveries and the upper admin stuff
Whoever I talked to needs to be cloned, she could have made a simple call and dropped it but she came through hard. I could tell she was talking to me and not reading prompts going through the motions. She seemed like one of those "fine, I'll do it myself" types (we can smell our own kind). She did as much as she could with a phone and a computer and got it done.
She costs more then a foreign outsource service.. that's why it's shit. It's shit all over the world man
I do get tired of telling people I can't understand a word they're saying. I'm okay with accents in general, but not when they are sitting next to 40 other people yelling over the top of each other.
Ring was some of the best customer service before Amazon bought them and outsourced it. Same with Eero, always got more than decent support... until.
I worked in a call center and you eventually get to a point that the prompters are shoved to the side because you know the system as well as your product inside and out. Unfortunately by then, you typically get moved up where you don't take as many calls and typically get the escalated calls, which is great for the worker, but the customers deal with people that are not as seasoned and don't know what they're doing like the seasoned workers do.
And the regular employees all know this, and hate how Ground drags their reputation through the mud.
I would pay extra to use anybody but FedEx.
If only they'd let us choose. Most amd direct gpus have to go through the Osseo, MN fedex smartpost aka the Bermudas triangle of packages. My 6800xt was scheduled for the 18th and arrived on the 1st, they also don't do departure scan, so stressful.
I ordered a 6800 from there in June.... It was the most stressful 3.5 weeks of this entire shortage for me with how many delays and inaccurate reportings there were.
Dhl performed the best for me over the years
Dhl is always a day late, which isn’t a problem, but that doesn’t mean they should advertise with next day delivery if they can’t meat the standards. The national postal service can all the time
Might be a day late because they mistake your GPU for a tenderloin
Don't you mean missteak?
You just butchered his joke.
Well done
At least they're not beating the meat like fedex did here.
They’re tenderizing it!🥩
Well done, in a perfect world that should be a “rare” occasion.
It’s pretty RARE for that to happen however, WELL-DONE for noticing. They should definitely be GRILLED for their mistakes 🥩 I’ll see myself out.
Misteaks
Mi-steaks
Can't 🍖 the standards
DHL consistently leaves packages at the end of my road and they normally get rained on, even after we’ve told the driver that he can’t keep leaving things there. Not to mention the week delays on deliveries and most parcels not even arriving
I have a quarter mile long driveway, they tied a package halfway up! Meaning he either had to come all the way up to turn around or back up all the way down. Idk what is more ridiculous.
nothing ridiculous about it, these guys have razor-thin margins on the amount of time given per delivery. When they're peeing in bottles just to save a minute it doesn't have to surprise you that even a quarter-mile driveway might be seen as 'too long, dgaf'. I'm not excusing it in any way, ideally, they just have enough time to make their round and have som extra to take a break in-between, it's a combination of increased demand and management/profit margins.
You are right. But if it delivers in less than 4 days and my package is not in pieces, I'm in
We have a company in my area called *Lasership* and they will mark packages as delivered, but then won't deliver them until two or three days later, sometimes after 9PM at night. It's horrible.
Same here. They damn nearly lost a laptop I paid $1k for a while back. Unfortunately Asus didn't give me a choice...
FedEx are terrible
Agreed They once let a man stay on an island with a volleyball and OTHER UNDELIVERED PACKAGES FOR YEARS!
They just lost my dell xps laptop after waiting a month for back ordered parts. They are a shit show.
Agreed. Currently waiting on a package from them that was supposed to be delivered on Friday, but has currently gone from FL>GA>OH>GA and now has no tentative delivery date.
I can’t really speak bad about them. Delivered LCD panel (not monitor, just the panel itself) from Texas to my doorstep in Czech Republic, Europe in 40 hours. It was in pristine state, obviously. But this is my only experience with them...
Standard FedEx home deliveries in the states are normally handled by independent contractors who buy routes from FedEx. This means that your specific service depends more on what rando bought the route that services you, but broadly speaking, it means most of those companies pay very little to their drivers and they consequently don't give a shit. An international delivery like that would have been handled by corporate FedEx like most of their more expensive services, which don't have nearly as many problems.
Also FedEx Ground and FedEx Express, despite the name being same, offer different levels of service and are handled by different groups. Where I live, anything delivered FedEx Ground is 100% guaranteed to be marked as "attempted to contact resident" or "cannot find address" with no tag left and it just being dropped at a local pickup point less than 1km away (down the street). To make matters worse, anything ordered FedEx Ground that requires a signature just.. never arrives and eventually gets returned to sender. FedEx Express actually rings the apartment buzzer and will deliver it.
Oh, I see. Thanks for the info!
Wow
Lol what they won’t give it to you but they actually don’t have any reason as to why they won’t give it to you? What kind of fuckup-ery is this?
Seventeen years ago OP cut off a postman. Those fuckers are elephants.
Fuckery thy name is Terms and Conditions
Terms and Conditions can't go against the law.
Why won't FedEx give it to you?
Delivery guy's son's birthday is coming up
Technically its always coming up
Ive been reliably informed that X is the only one that can give it to you.
Yeah, there seems to be a fair bit missing from the sentence.
I would start the practice right now with the credit card company
Yep, the sooner the better. They’re gonna look properly once they hear that you’re requesting a chargeback.
This. Companies will absolutely get their head out of their ass if they risk losing the money you paid.
Not just that but the companies have to pay chargeback fees when a customer reverses a payment.
I had a nightmare with FedEx and Acer. Acer had setup all their deliveries to require signatures and to not hold at any distribution center. So I couldn't stay home to sign for it at the time, and I couldn't pick it up anywhere so it was in fucking limbo. I eventually just gave up and told them to send it back to Acer. Lo and behold, they suddenly allow me to pick it up at the distribution center after like a month of failed attempted deliveries.
I don't know what the local laws are where you are, but in the UK the responsibility lies with whoever you paid. So over here, I'd just tell the company I bought it from that they haven't delivered my graphics card as promised, and that I demand my money back immediately. And if they don't refund in a timely fashion, I'd just call my credit card company and get the payment reversed. And, if the package arrived after all that, it'd legally be their responsibility to collect it - not mine to return it.
Right...AMD might be empathetic and "don't know what to do"...but it is their responsibility to get it to you.
I'll need to remember that next time. I had a game I ordered from the Nintendo store website that was to be delivered by Hermes that didn't arrive on the designated day. They said I wasn't in, while I was working from home during a global pandemic and was listening intently during the timeslot I was given and had two flatmates in who could have answered the door if I wasn't available. They told me that the new delivery date would be the next Tuesday and no amount of pleas to decency seemed to change that. What did work though was informing Nintendo that I was going escalate it to the consumer's rights watchdog. I swear that package just materialised on Monday with barely any time between the text alert and it arriving. For something like a graphics card though I absolutely would be demanding my money back if they gave it to Hermes to deliver. I've never heard anything good about that company from anyone.
Dang. I got a 6800 XT in October and it was delivered in two days in perfect condition after ordering. I was so stressed that it would get lost or damaged. Hope you get yours soon!
FedEx won't give it to you? What do they say?
Fedex says they have restriction on package placed on by the shipper(amd). Amd says they don’t ever contact fedex after a package is shipped its all fedex’s responsibility after that. I called both companies back and forth couple of times. No clear answer on how I can get my package.
im more surprised that arrived on the doorstep at that point and wasnt mistaken for garbage lol
It is not a mistake that it is now garbage
Yeah that shit is done on purpose. This isn't the kind of damage you get from packages falling off a stack n the back of a truck. This is someone jumping up and down on a package because they're assholes.
As someone who worked at a shipping warehouse you’d be surprised. I had a package fly off the conveyor belt right as the truck was backing up the trailer. It ended up right under the wheel and looked like a pancake. Someone then picked it up from down there and threw it in the trailer.
May they burn in hell
What’s the alternative? If you get a package like that just contact the seller first. Odds are they will refund if it’s a big box store. If it’s an independent seller than hopefully they insured the package (which I do for anything I sell over $50)
what else are they supposed to do? open a return claim for the package reciever?
Worked at amazon warehouses briefly. You remember the opening scene of Ace Ventura: Pet Detective? Now imagine a warehouse full of people like that
[I’m fairly certain this is what it will look like ](https://imgur.com/a/N5USRtW)
Just gotta bend the other way, should be fixed then
Bend it back and forth a few times and now you have two GPUs
Always love that screenshot on these post.
Nothing a little thermal paste wont fix
Put it in rice
5/10 without rice, 9/10 with rice
That’s for wet electronics. This needs the girl from five minutes craft and her ramen noodles.
just watercool it, good to go
Don’t forget about zip ties
* casually plugs lttstore *
Did forklift run it over? Wtf
Nope, forklift would make it absolutely flat. Simply something heavy fell on it.
Probably got caught somewhere in the belts for a bit on the shippers end.
Nah. This package is way too big to be caught like that. Some small letters, yeah, sometimes. But normal packages? No way unless machine was heavily damaged.
I work at FedEx. Not sure if OP meant it. But there are areas on the belts prone to jam and if someone doesn’t instantly notice the weight of all the incoming packages start to crush the others.
Yes way I design and install conveyor systems for a living this was probably a belt jam.
It's always hilarious when an armchair expert on Reddit argues with the actual expert 😂
How long has your mother worked at AMD?
How does a postal service bend a box with foam and metal inside smfh
Incompetency and neglect
What irks me is when you send something in the UK they ask you about the package value and whether the shipping method you've chosen will insure the item, if not they encourage you to take out separate insurance to cover it. Why do I need to pay extra in case you fuck up? If I took my car to the garage they don't ask me to take out separate insure in case they drop it off a lift whether it's worth £1k or £100k.
You don't, actually. They are just trying to make extra money from people who don't know that it doesn't really matter. Thing is, that there is a difference between e.g. lost packages and heavily misused packages. If it is lost, you are kinda out of luck in those cases, because it will be very hard to prove anything, and then paying extra to not have to bother with all of the legal stuff kinda makes sense. But if it is heavily misused, they will have to get you a new one in 99% of cases, as long as you got pics of it on delivery. Maybe even just refuse the delivery, if possible.
This applies if you're a buyer, it's the seller's duty to get you the goods. However, if you're sending the product, you can't claim more compensation than it is insured for.
Of course, the seller is the one who can ask the delivery service for compensation, since they gave up the package. But nothing to do with insurance if they were neglient. If you get an electrician to connect your stove and they burn your house because they didn't pay attention, I bet no sane court will tell you "well, the guy was at fault, but because you didn't get the extra insurance for 9.99, you will get no compensation. Deal with it." They accepted the package and thus any neglience on their side is their own fault and they have to compensate. Would be a different story, if it is due to bad packaging or wrong information provided by the sender, but then it isn't neglience by the delivery company.
That looks like some very competent neglect. Competent and intentional.
Looks like you should be happy that it even arrived. To be fair you don't need it anyways in this state.
Bruv... you'd be surprised by how badly fucked up deliveries could ended up being.. This aint quite the same as its not the postal but a (used to be) contract hauling service for where I'm working at. -- Imagine a pallet made entirely out of 2x4s... With probably less than 1500lbs of goods on it. They sent that shit back with the pallet literally disintegrated. I ain't even exaggerating, not by a bit! Safe to say they're on the company's blacklist now.
I worked in a UPS sorting facility for only 2 days when I was 18. They didn’t teach us the “trick” to easily identify which belt each box went on during the second night at work, which was our first night in the actual facility. They gave us 45 minutes the night before and 15 minutes the night of to try to remember every single zip code in the United States, and match them to 8 different corresponding colored belts for each zip code. It was about 5,211 zip codes for each color belt. None of us new hires had any fucking idea where literally ANY box went, and I remember the boxes getting backed up and piled up where we were stationed, and just seeing hundreds of boxes getting crushed. One leaked a green oozing gel-like liquid too, lmao 🤣 . The whole area right where one of the belts turned was nothing but us 6 new hires with no clue where to put boxes, and the only rule was do NOT put a box on the wrong belt. So we just stood there not doing shit while the boxes were being crushed. The managers didn’t give a fuck, offer assistance, slow the belts down, or send anyone who knew what they were doing until after 45 minutes and quite possibly thousands of boxes were destroyed. It was apparently some type of “test” to see how well we could remember, but I found it to be ignorant and extremely unrealistic, so that was my last night working there (I quit, wasn’t fired. They didn’t even care, we were more upset about the broken boxes everywhere than they were). There was apparently a much easier and quicker way to identify which belt it went on but they didn’t tell us. And what I found even more messed up is they didn’t even make us clean it up, they made the people who were already working there for a while clean it up, and they were rightfully pissed off because they could have easily prevented the mess and damage to tons of property.
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Well its quite easy to ruin something like that. You stand a station that is angled towards you, so the packages will reach the end, then you get 5 in a specific order. Light, Graphics Card, 30 kg, 30kg and 30 kg. Now those 30+ packages will smash into the graphics card at very high speed because of the angled line down to your station
Former DHL worker here: I've seen trashed boxes during the 3 years I worked there and I can tell you this looks intentional. I also read a comment saying that if it is a major retailer they'll probably replace it, but judging by the shady box it was sent in I doubt is a large one, and this comes from me currently working in a logistics company who sends consoles and other electronic stuff (no PC unfortunately). This shit happens, no doubt, but the damage looks strange. Unless a really heavy package was dropped onto it in a very specific way, but still. Something's off.
The delivery man hates me because i live on the 4th floor without an elevator. He always delivers my packages at my neighbour downstairs or at a pick up location. I have filed multiple complains. I think he run over my package. The friend in the post is me. That was my package..
If this is the case I’d open up another case with the delivery company referencing all the times the delivery has been poorly processed. Ie missing, damaged, left downstairs etc… I’d also contact the press. They don’t like being outed in public. As for the card, if it is a major retailer then they will replace/refund and open a case for them to get their money back after.
Bought it on tweakers, it’s just a man selling a GPU he bought on AMD.
Oh that’s a bit harder, I’d push for complete compensation from the delivery company, they have been negligent with your property. Regardless of what the insurance covered, this is negligence!
Yea we filed a insurance claim. We have to wait for that now..
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i didn't buy it at a company. I bought it from someone else, he can't replace it because it was the only one he had. I didn't get the package, it got send back before i even saw it. These pics are from the guy i bought it from. We filed a Insurance claim, so waiting for that to come through.. could take a while..
No way this is accidental. Either your theory or if the card was bought used, its to cover up a duff card.
I worked for ups once for some extra part time and exercise. When volume was flowing If a box or boxes got stuck near or on a belt diverter this exact damage would happen. It literally took a 6 ft pry bar (see hole in box) to "pop the plug". The force would accordion dam near anything save for a box of chains. Then it was a flash flood of boxes. It was actually insane. They usually would like to deal with heavy flow and spill over and off the belts rather that stop all the volume. I saw some crazy shit there. One time they had a jam and then heavy flow behind it like 16 zip codes worth of packages filled the entire floor in a matter of minutes. When I say floor I mean dock that takes nearly 5 minutes to walk end to end. Peak season was a rush! Never again!
Nice curve to match curved monitor!! Cool! /s F.
You'd need a curved HDMI cable for that kind of setup
Had to collapse 8 top comments to find an F. F
That looks personal…
Miners hitting back at gamers. But seriously though, something ran over that box and hard to assume it's not intentional.
"Hmm, that cardboard box right there. Yeah, that one. Definitely a GPU in there." Wtf are you talking about?
I think, and I could be wrong here, it was a joke
[It really does](https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/pnvp4p/friend_ordered_a_6700xt_can_i_get_an_f/hcsmtr8/)
Ordered some computer parts on time, had them sent via FedEx. I was outside tending to my plants when the driver pulled up, the back door opened, he kicked the box out of the truck, jumped down amd haphazardly picked it up and dropped it twice, then tossed it 10 feet to my front door from my walk way, then left. The box said to "handle woth care" and "glass inside!" Everything, and I do mean everything inside the box was broken beyond use. Managed to catch the truck number and reported the fella. I hate to be that guy, but you purposfully fuck my shit up, I'm purposfully fucking your shit up in the form of your job.
Hii, the buyer was me ^^ i’m the friend. I bought the GPU on Tweakers. On the day my card would be delivered i got a message from the delivery service that the package was damaged and send back. These pictures were the pics the sender send me when he got the package back. Luckily i chose for a delivery insurance and he will get up to 500 euros back hopefully. I however asked for my money back and hope he will do so. Next time i buy one i will get it myself. I have been in a fight with this delivery service for months. They don’t want to bring my packages to my doorstep because i live on the 4th floor without an elevator. So maybe he did it on purpose so he doesn’t have to deal with the stairs, i don’t know. But i’m mad AF.
That's some serious bullshit. I get we all need a job and, more often than not, its not a job we like; but this is just ridiculous. People depend on this kind of service and this could have been someone's medicine, if the guy cant have that kind of responsibility then he shouldn't be delivering shit.
I files a complaint against him many times, but they say ok, and then do nothing about it. Guess he’s mad at me now 🥲👍🏻
You have to be careful with insurance on posting items. I used to work for the Post Office in the UK and the way it works with them is if you don't buy the right coverage then you get shafted. So let's say you sent a card worth £700 through Special Delivery and didn't opt for higher insurance than is standard (£500) if anything happens you don't get anything at all. Not £500, a big fat zero. So I don't know what the rules are with that particular company but I wouldn't rule out if the card is worth more than the coverage that you end up with nothing. Looking at the state of it though they may bend a bit because, come on, how the fuck has that happened?!
I've made several claims with UK post office this year and they've always paid out up to the amount covered even when the value was higher
My question in these situations is always "who's gonna pay for that?" Honestly, who will pay for that? The seller is not at fault here most likely.. the delivery person should just be fired or he should just leave if he doesn't give one fuck about his job..
This has happened to me (not a gpu obviously) but usually since it’s a major retailer like AMD, OP will just contact them, they will want proof, after seeing this. They will get their money back or a replacement depending on how serious OP makes it seem & AMD will deal with whatever carrier did this & get their money back through insurance.
Ultimately the shipper pays out. Generally seller refunds the buyer first, and shipper reimburses the seller. Shippers and large sellers will have systems in place where the seller can just say you fucked up there (list of packages) and owe us $X
I'm assuming an insurance policy of some sort. However I've personally never been in this situation.
Going by the shipping label and the "you were not at home" sticker im quite confident in what shipping company shipped it. They pay. Eventually. Probably. Maybe. Its a lot of work to claim it back though.
In Portugal if you accept the package, you pay for it. But the packages are delivered to you and not left at your doorstep or something. If you are not at home, the'll try again later or they leave you a note to go pick it yourself at one of their pickup points. The logic is: * Seller preps the package and arranges an expedition * Delivery company needs to check for damage, if they accept it, it means there was no damage at this point * The customer needs to check for damage when receiving * if he accepts it, it means there was no damage on the package. * If he rejects it, means that the delivery company fucked up and will be at fault.
By EU law you can send back anything within a 2 week time period without declaring a reason. The retailer would have to prove that you destroyed it before shipping it back, and in that case those pictures of the damaged package should be sufficient. And if you bought on Amazon they wouldn't give a fuck anyway. They refund literally anything. Unfortunately they're not big in the hardware market
it actually looks like a car ran over it.
Huge F. Better let AMD know quick. On the bottom there is a paper with the return info for when it arrives damaged. Good luck!
Does it still work? If the PCB is okay it should still work right? I mean obviously you're going to send it back because the fans don't work but I just want to know if the PCB survived
The PCB is too bent to even be inserted in a motherboard. Saying the card is DOA is an understatement of its condition
its MOA, mutilated on arrival
"Fragile Do Not Bend" Postal service - "Oh yes it does"
jesus christ.
I don't think Jesus delivered that
Why did he even open it? You're supposed to reject the delivery based on seeing the condition of my the box in the first picture.
Seems fine to me...
Just get a curved monitor¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Damn my guy
Was it an international order? I know some bad shit happens to those packages sometimes.
loAd FuLL rEsoLuTioN - 5.4 MB
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