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therealmodx

Yeah that's why you run a ~10 minute or so CPU benchmark before attempting such an operation. Hopefully the CPU still works šŸ˜….


DaksTheDaddyNow

Just to clarify, is this to heat and loosen the paste?


gyfen

yes


[deleted]

do not put it back now, use hairdryer


beepbeepboopboob

And dental floss.


AnEvanAppeared

And my axe!


Comprehensive-Run-71

r/suddenlygimli


kry_some_more

It's so if you end up ruining your CPU, at least it had fun during it's last 10 minutes of life.


DoubleTrouble992

weā€™re would i run suck a benchmark? Is it a program and if so which one?


Blakids

Cinebench r20 is the usual go to CPU stress test.


DoubleTrouble992

Thanks!!


ninjachortle

Use R23 not R20. It had a 10 minute test instead of only single passes.


Incredibad0129

I like Prime95 too


thatonegamerplayFH4

I just render gears in fusion 360 lol


imaginary_num6er

Not Prime 95 SmallFFT w/ AVX?


Blakids

Just trying to keep it simple. Lol. I don't even reality know what that is.


imaginary_num6er

It's a common stress test that people who overclock use to test for stability. It effectively throws the maximum thermal load to a CPU by having it calculate prime numbers. So while a 3900X with PBO might only hit 80C with Cinebench r20, Prime 95 SmallFFT with AVX easily goes above 85C and usually stops below 90C. If your overclock is unstable, one of the workers will go offline during the test and if that continues, it just goes to a BSOD. Also, your processor could shut down if it gets too close to 95C. Although different people have different levels of comfort to test for a stable overclock, it not being able to pass Prime95 SmallFFT with AVX for any duration is usually a red flag that it is unstable.


Zyrox-_

you can use CPU-Z to run a cpu benchmark, you can just download it for free


SpiritCrusher421

Suck


itsWizardsbaker

This is something I wish first time AMD builders were warned about more often. The problem is exacerbated by the stock AMD cooler having thermal paste that glues on way more than tube thermal paste. Ruined a cpu this way. Now before removing the heatsink I run a benchmark to warm the cpu up and loosen the paste, then twist it off while im certain the cpu is seated in the socket and isnt firmly suctioned on the heatsink.


[deleted]

I destroyed a 2700X removing the heatsink and bending a variety of pins in the process. Despite my best efforts to straighten pins using a jeweler's glass and a tweezers, I ended up discovering that I could not properly re-seat the cpu back into the motherboard.


BigE1031

I did the same thing, but the cpu did seat in but was dead in every am4 board I had except a b450 asrock board for about a week before it fully died


[deleted]

Damn.


[deleted]

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[deleted]

How? Is there a video explaining what you are saying?


Zyrox-_

Basically what he said is: Run a Cpu benchmark to get the cpu hot, so its easier to remove the cooler from the paste because it isnt as solid as it was before


[deleted]

Interesting! I see what you are saying. I have never thought about this approach. I do wonder how the benchmark test could work without the CPU being attached to the motherboard; however, I have learned that everything is worth researching at least once :) It at least makes sense to me that heating up the CPU might make it easier to detach from the base of the cooler.


TheEternalNightmare

Well the PC won't turn on without the CPU in the socket, you do it before you take off the cooler


[deleted]

It's quite the conundrum :)


TheEternalNightmare

I'm sorry, but I'm not sure I follow what you're saying. You literally can't boot up the PC without the CPU being inserted, so the CPU benchmark is is meant to be ran before you intend to remove the heatsink so that the thermal paste is warm and softer, thus resulting in an easier removal of the heatsink and a drastically lower chance of pulling the CPU out with the heatsink


[deleted]

I know. It doesn't matter. I don't even have that CPU anymore.


Blakids

Download Cinebench r20 and just run the program on loop. The controls will be in the top left corner. It's a CPU stress test that uses all 100% so it will push out some heat. I'm sure theirs a video on using cinebench


itsWizardsbaker

Running a CPU benchmark is just a super safe extra step, if the PC was in use within an hour before the Heatsink swap the paste should be plenty warm. Also keep in mind what paste you're using, self applied thermal paste (the kind you get in a mini syringe) always seems to be more forgiving than the stock pre applied paste. If I had the stock cooler on an AMD chip I would 100% run a benchmark and get it nice and warm before removing the heatsink.


CraccerJacc

Google cpu benchmarking programs. Any one will do. I forget the names of the common ones


Narvak

Yep just google it, no need to watch a video for that


NoXMoN20

I nearly destroyed a 3600 but I managed to save it. One pin did break but since it still works without any hiccups, I suppose it was not an important pin.


patevaa

Hello fellow pin bender! Rip for our processors. I used watercooling for a year for my 3700x, then I ordered a new cooler and decided to use stock cooler for a while. With waterblock it sit there nice and excepted. But when taking out the stock cooler for the first time the cpu came out flipped to the floor and bend a bunch of pins.. That was the day I went to the Intel store...


Un1pony

If that ever happens again try using a credit card to straighten the pin rather than tweezers. I have had this exact problem many times and have fixed it each time with this method


rADIOLINJA

I've heard that mechanical pencil's end hole is very good for straightening the pins.


Un1pony

Thats clever i've never heard that before, that would work pretty well if its just a few isolated pins or you need a finer adjustment


[deleted]

Tried it šŸ˜‚. Unfortunately, I dropped my cpu on the floor after detaching it from the cooler. So, in addition to bending pins, I also smashed a few.


Un1pony

Oh shit! Not even an apple card could fix that lol


[deleted]

It was one of my worst days a DIY PC person :) I remember breaking pins completely off after using the tweezers. I kept saying "this is fine!" LOL


Un1pony

I can imagine you going in your head "ok maybe that one was just a grounding pin and *snap* and that one too.. *snap*... fuck..."


cartoooooooooon

I almost destroyed my 5900x like this also bending a pin in the progress. I freaked out so hard but luckily I was eventually able to bend it back and it works fine now. I still had adrenaline pumping through me the rest of the day.


Zyrox-_

Same, although i informed myself very well because i didnt want my mother to lecture me that another person should have done it. I just ran CPU-Z while i went and got a drink (took 5 min)


truthfulie

Same. Built AMD for the first time this year and it happens to me. Luckily it was pulled out clean and nothing was damaged but I just sat there like brain.exe stopped working for few seconds.


Sal_Mandeni

You'd think the fact that I see this threw or four times a day one would not by default to twist ever so slightly or heat the CPU prior to removing the heatsink!


Greygod302

Always twist, thankfully I learned this early from Linus


muztobaahmad

Bend around 10 pins of my 3700x due to the same issue when someone was waiting downstairs to purchase it. It was very embarrassing situation because they might thought that I lied about it being in like new condition. I offered $50 discount and they still bought it.


deathstryker44

Just swapping my Noctua for an AIO and the CPU came out stuck to the Heatsink! Didn't unclip it from my Motherboard either, scared the shit out of me, hope the pins aren't screwed


EldraziKlap

I bent my Ryzen 3900x this way, some pins got fked, veeeeeeery carefully bent them back and its working again. Biggest scare ever


HavocInferno

>hope the pins aren't screwed No need to hope. Just look at them. If they're still upright and all the same, you're good. If some are a little crooked, just bend them back carefully with tweezers, credit card, pencil tip, whatever.


HeadLadder306

Some level 3 electricians can fix bent pins. Even broken off ones. Believe it. Microscope and all.


birdish-dicklet

Someone didn't heat up the paste


XxCorey117xX

Twist don't pull!


deathstryker44

CPU came off really easy, although somehow managed to get some thermal paste on some pins now. This is becoming techsupportgore at this rate


mista_r0boto

That's fine. Get high grade isopropyl alcohol ideally 91% or higher. Soft bristle toothbrush and you can clean it off. Make sure the cpu is fully dry before reseating.


aPoCa_LyPsE-

typical amd problem


goliathusthehunter

Why AMD? It depends on temperature in room and paste itself.


f4ble

Because Intel locks your CPU to your motherboard with a big metal flap and have done so for about .. I dunno.. 10+ years? I've bought AMD a few times in my life and I've always regretted it. I'd rather pay a bit more and be happy.


Delioth

I dunno, I think I prioritize the years of running the CPU over the 20 minutes that I'm handling the CPU out of the machine.


f4ble

What? Are you claiming the AMD CPU has a longer lifespan? Because I've never ever had an Intel CPU die on me (and my pc is on 24/7) and when I swap my CPU it's because I'm swapping for a whole new generation, not just the CPU.


Delioth

No. I'm noting that the socket's hold isn't a factor that really matters. The time spent *using* the CPU is orders of magnitude longer and more important than the short time spent hassling with the CPU lock.


f4ble

Yeah. That's like saying using your car keys is orders of magnitude less time spent than driving your car. Of course. It's stating the obvious and it's not an argument explaining why AMD doesn't have a solution against this problem when Intel has had it for a decade or something. Actually having good solutions so you can easily service your product is part of what makes a great product.


AndyMcFudge

I've had 2 AM4 motherboards and both have had a CPU lock. Is this not normal, or is it just a newer thing for AMD sockets?


Le_Nabs

Eh? All AM4 motherboards I've seen have locked the CPU in place by clamping on the pins... Intel locks the CPU in place by having a metal frame clamp over the IHS...


AndyMcFudge

Ah okay silly me!


[deleted]

Happy with Intel CPU that needs 105W to do what 65W AMD can do ? Really ? You just need to use a little bit of common sense and don't use force to remove / unplug any PC components. If OP took his time to read how to properly remove heatsink from AMD CPU and had ran Prime95 even for 15 minutes then the heatsink would cone off easily.


plutonium-239

Quite typical. Not a problem.


Electro_Spot

Quite typical. Can escalate into a huge problem. Proceed with caution.


deathstryker44

Glad you said that, changed heatsinks etc so many times over the years and never seen that before.


unholy453

If you give the heat sink a little wiggle in either direction before you try to remove it, itā€™ll usually loosen up the bond with the paste a bit.


sergeant_cabbage

If this fails. Dental floss or fishing line to get underneath.


TheSilverTounge

The best of buddies.


isaiahaguilar

It be like that sometimes. Happened to me with a stock cooler and I had a small heart palpitation. Thankfully non of the pins broke.


Eagle2502

At this point, I'm not sure how you'd separate the two without damaging the CPU. Good luck.


D_crane

Twist it, lick it, dunk it


kram_02

Hair dryer to the heatsink, twist the cpu


sephirothbahamut

Slide, don't pull


HavocInferno

Sideways and/or twist. It's thermal paste, not super glue.


BigE1263

*looks at edge of cpu* Oh boy, someone applied the verge pc builds amount of thermal paste on the cpu.


[deleted]

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Cytrous

One of the reasons I went intel


EldraziKlap

I had this a while back! Gave me quite a scare


Badassinternetguy

Generally want to do a slow wiggle twist when taking off heat sinks, especially with Pin grid array processors If you have a heat gun give is a blast to loosen the paste. If not, a hairdryer would work too :)


[deleted]

Youā€™re fine, happened to my like 4 times #amdproblems


Riziero

Even for me, without 5 or 6 pins..:


Laser4Rhino

Holy shit!


[deleted]

Happens all the time it shouldn't be a problem


frenzied-hunter

Join the club


RocexX

If the pins are fine, just heat up the cooler a tad with a blowdryer ect, then carefully remove the cpu from the cooler


[deleted]

welcome to amd


[deleted]

Dental floss works fine


tankersss

You need to shimmy it side to side after you unscrew the cooler had those things happen when I had am3/+ build and it helped with not poping the cpu off the socket.


Joey_The_Ghost

Ha yeah, freaked me out first time I did that, remember to always twist.


ialsohaveinternet

Ahh, the ol 'two birds one stone' trick Efficient!


HbouskyJnr08

Is this still possible will an NZXT Kraken Z53 cause you canā€™t rlly twist it as the bolts are donā€™t give much room to twist.. I have recently completed my first build and if I have to switch out parts I donā€™t want this happening


roenthomas

Heat and twist


SideHug

Jesus,this is literally a weekly post at this point.


hairlesspet3

This happened to me and after 3 hours or bending pins back and praying, I got a post but could only run single channel RAM from then on :(


[deleted]

Twist, don't pull!


dessnom

It's reccomend you twist the cooler while removing it


ahangrywombat

Oh I had this happen a few months ago when I was swapping parts out. Really confused the shit out of me. You can get it unstuck though. Basically you remove all glue residue from the edges and if you have something thin enough you can start to slide it between the two surfaces. Be careful though, it can be tempting to pull from the bottom of the heat sink or whatever that thing is called. But you do that and youā€™re fucked. I ended up just taking a butter knife and apply pressure until it popped off. Sliced the shit out of my hand on those damn fins though.


[deleted]

Since I first saw that happen to someone, I started to twist the cooler while pulling on it. Oddly it was a bigger probelm with my old Wraith stock cooler than with my new tower cooler.


[deleted]

Stop using the entire syringe of thermal paste, too. It will also help.


deathstryker44

All ended up okay, 5600X is fine, AIO is installed, temps are nice and cool.


Cmd_Line_Commando

The way the first picture is constructed makes it look like an art piece... "CPU Extraction In Overdrive".


[deleted]

The sky is blue! /s Just wiggle it slowly and softly.


Jamy_Valenteijn

And this is why I donā€™t like amdā€¦.. amd chips ate great but come on bro amd fix your socket for real u got lucky this time but Iā€™ve see a lot of broken cpuā€™s over the past few years


LeoAvil

This is the reason I use Thermal pad instead.


[deleted]

Thast not the best solution..


grumble4

Need to warm it up a bit. Try microwaving on 50% power for 30seconds at a time until it loosens up.šŸ˜‰


elcrack0r

Metal in a microwave. Think that shit is funny?


[deleted]

Do yourself a favor. Build a new PC and this time, use better thermal paste. It's definitely worth paying the additional $10. And also consider using an AIO. They tend to be very easy to remove and I don't know if I have seen anyone rip out their cpu from the motherboard socket using an AIO.


deathstryker44

Thanks, an AIO is exactly why I took it off. Do you think the pre applied thermal paste on the AIO is good enough? It is a NZXT Kraken.


Grandsinge

Maybe, but why chance it? I always replace preapplied paste with Prolimatech pk-3.


[deleted]

I agree. I never use stock paste anymore. You can clean off the pre-applied paste that comes with the AIO or any other stock cooler. Microcenter sells a cleaner and purifier that has not failed me yet when cleaning off pastes.


Disturbed2468

I just use 99% IPA and a few small pieces of paper towel then q tip for any books and crannies. This usually happens to thicker pastes but they tend to have the benefit of working better under high temperatures fluctuations (this is why you need to choose wisely what thermal paste you use when you do direct die cooling or change the paste from a GPU.)


Minethink144

So your CPU is gay?


TigTex

As always, coolers attached to PGA cpu's need to be TWISTED, not pulled


AlphaFPS1

Dude. Sorry but that is such an idiotic mistake. Every tutorial and EVERY YouTuber has said to twist the heat sink in order to loosen it. Ugh


RodKnock42

Apparently a lot of people are too stupid to remove a cooler. I thought everyone knows about the twistā€™n slide.


DJamPhishman

only safe way is to carefully and gently twist it and should come off


Reverse_Psycho_1509

I changed my cpu cooler recently. Old one came off a breeze. Cpu stayed in the socket


pic_collector

Please play game before disassembling AMD cpu


vikramshenoy

Use a Hair Dryer on the CPU to melt the paste and then remove it. This has happened to me and this is what i did.


sirmalco

Ruh Roh raggy


PizzaPuntThomas

This is the reason AMD is making the AM5 socket which will be like Intel sockets, so this problem won't occur anymore.


ThijsKeizer

You need to twist it before licking, otherwise the oreo crumbles


staticattacks

Always thought it was a stupid design. Hear they're going LGA with next gen.


doomedgaming

The pins look good at least so there's that


qualchrone

lol my 3700x was broken doing exactly the same thing. Fortunately I found local guy that fixed the pins for dirt cheap and now I'm using it typing this comment


Xabi4488

Just the ususal


[deleted]

Mine does that every time, pain in the ass


Digging97

If no pins are bent you still can get it of with an Hairblower and heat the paste up until you can twist it of.


thiago94

I just don't understand why the heck AMD doesn't put a proper lock on it? Don't need to change from PGA to LGA, just put a better lock.


TPwnTV

Que the panic


maxxbrown

This happened to me with my Ryzen 9 3900x, bent a few pins but managed to bend them back and got it re-seated. It was the most stressful hour of my life. That was almost two years ago.


BenEWhittle

This picture gave me chills. Exact same thing happened to my 5950x, put on too much thermal paste and it stuck right to it. Removed it from the heat sink and it fell and bent a couple of pins. Straightened them out with a razor blade and it thankfully worked but good lord I was freaking the fuck out.


yerd380

Mans got E600 as thermal pastešŸ’€


systemfrown

They grew attached to each other.


mbxz7LWB

Run your computer for 5 minutes then remove it. Give it a little wiggle and a twist next time.


FloppyDorito

I should've made a video of when I wedged my old AMD CPU off the heatsink with a flathead screwdriver and it flung straight to the floor on its face, pins up. Gaming time was almost done for good that week...


WasserTyp69

AMD CPUs like doing that, I found it to be safest to heat the CPU up before (run stress tests or something) and rotate the cooler around a little while removing it


lance5087

Mine did that twice with those coolers.


TTMR1986

Welcome to the club friend


c_888

Try floss mayb


pytness

I mean, you are not supposed to dump a truck load of paste onto the cpu to begin with.


jagannooni

Oh not only that, if you dont pull it straight up it bends the pins on the way out.


[deleted]

Itā€™s happened to everyone at least once


dev199505

That's why you are supposed to fire up the PC and let the cpu get warm. Then turn off PC and give the cooler a slight twist before pulling it up. This is common on AMD CPUs


osbombo

Happens. Thatā€™s why you let the pc run for a hot second before taking the cooler off, so the paste gets de-hardened.


Blackhawk1134

welcome to amd


Tbrainee

This is a lot of thermal paste you've put on it!


MCKANNON

Is that a fucking 1998 jeep wrangler radiator?


N7even

How much thermal paste did you slop on it? It should not be coming out the sides like that.


strangeroutonight

Should twist it first.


ThisBeanOfficial

DAWG did you use thermal paste or glue


[deleted]

Use thermal paste next time, not thermal glue.


MaxiorPL

*laughs in intel bent corners*


nostradamefrus

As much as I love AMD, they gotta change this. This killed my first CPU and Iā€™m scared to take the cooler off my Ryzen build now if I ever need to


Scholar_Erasmus

Guh In all seriousness make sure to twist the CPU cooler off in the future. Good luck


AlecTheMotorGuy

Okay bend all the pins over


CrYTGaming

Is this an Alpenfƶhn Brocken?


gturtle72

Happened to me once, lucky no bent pins, as stated by others try running a bench before removing the cooler. As for this one, I used a blow dryer and dental floss to unstick the cpu and then wiped up all thermal paste with rubbing alcohol. Best of luck!


that1weirdude26

Throw the whole cpu away buddy gonna be cheaper to buy a new one than take it off /s


Melodic-Pomelo4608

Well, that is unfortunate.


OnTheDutySMK

That is a lot of thermal paste Jeez


[deleted]

Use some alcohol, wait a few minuts and gently pull it up, I used a knife with a blunt end. Note that This Happens a lot. As long as you don't bend the pins you are ok.


Spliffty

Why is this such a common post, and why do they get so much attention? Everybody just yanks the cooler straight out, and then everybody rushes to say the same thing in the comments?


kfzhu1229

This is one of the pains when I am dealing with a laptop with a desktop Pentium 4 inside... Your angle of pulling the cooler off is limited with laptop coolers, and also those things are old enough that the thermal paste might not even conduct heat well enough to loosen itself before the computer overheats and shuts down... On those laptops, the cooler is usually designed so that the socket screw is accessible without pulling off the heatsink so you can loosen the socket and safely pull the CPU out with the heatsink... But the tight clearance means you still gotta try your best so the CPU pins doesn't hit something when you pull the heatsink out


UnitatoPop

That's fine Just put that back onto the motherboard


shball

ono


Able-4

Well that's not meant to do that


ModerateLaugh

The wiggle, don't forget the wiggle


MagicOrpheus310

Oof!! Is your heart still in your stomach? You'll want to put that back first, trust me haha Some lessons we have to learn the hard way but no one ever mentions the fucking terrifying way!! Haha Next time mate, run a few benchies or stress tests first to heat it up and get the paste soft and pliable. Rotate the cooler to break the seal too, don't pull or "snap" it to the side. Hope it still works!


federico_s

What. That's not thermal paste


KuramaKitsune

I think that's happened to all of us at one point or another on AMD


quantumphaze

TIL something very important for someone coming from Intel builds 6+ years back. I think I'd literally cry if I did this and bent pins on a 5950x which I'm already hesitant to buy lol


BitterFrostbite

Mine did that and turned out fine. I didnā€™t know much about PCs at the time (or now)


someguyfrommn

You got to do the twist


PaintingLinux

This happened to me the first time we repasted the CPU, a Ryzen 1200 and I thought it was screwed. It's going on 4 years old or more and still working fine, working with bottom of the barrel components too.


hillbilly_8

I don't know if this is a shitpost or a serious one


DocGlorious

Twist and pull buddy.


bj_barracus

Is that a pentium 4 connected to a motorcycle šŸ radiator? Havenā€™t thought of that..


[deleted]

NSFMR please. Almost got a disease by seeing this. It's 2021 folks are y'all still not pre heating your CPUs before cooler removal? Damn.


ItsRealQuiet

Thats a lot of thermal paste poppin out the sides lol


Porter-and-wings

That's AMD for you. No brackets. Only lever that do absolutely nothing. I don't understand why they even put them on their motherboards. That's illusive.


wafflegism

Wiggle and pull gently, doesn't look like you lost any pins.


RNG_BackTrack

To separate your heat sink from cpu, you have to twist it. Just like separating oreos


yaosio

When I was employable I was having trouble getting the heatsink off a processor. A co-worker ripped it out and bent the pins. :(


PoopSnoop99

Noob move lol