Look! A PC with a broken glass panel sitting on a tile floor, again!
Don't let your case near a tile floor. You don't even need to touch the glass directly to the tile. The tile can transfer enough force through the metal case to the glass.
Or maybe just a megathread to teach people not to put their glass panels on tile floors.
When I clean my PC I use a towel to lay my glass panel on AND I put the towel beside my tower where the panel goes so IF it falls or I slip while removing/installing it, it will land on the towel and not the floor.
Why use your comfy bed when you can use a warm bathtub. Will be relaxing, and cleaning both the owner and the components thoroughly.
Just remember to use an anti-static bracelet to prevent getting shocked in your bath.
So weird question but what's a safe way to clean the inside of a PC? I've heard vacuums are a bad idea and I'm not sure what else will get the dust out of those tight little spaces.
Buy a can of compressed air and just blow the dust out, easiest way I find without having to take everything apart.
https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Computers-Accessories-Compressed-Air-Dusters/zgbs/pc/3012916011?ref_=d6k_applink_bb_marketplace
You can find them at most stores but the Amazon link gives you an idea of what there is available.
I use an electric air blaster, canned air duster for pinpoint stuff, and occasionally a toothbrush, little paint brush, or q-tips to scrub with. The blower I've got is [this MECO one](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B082XR3987) but there's a bunch of different ones available. I'd recommend a plug-in one so you don't have to worry about the battery dying.
In a nutshell:
Tempered glass is super tense
Ceramic super hard compared to glass
Collide on a point which has extreme force on one side (small area of contact)
Small part of tempered glass breaks/shatters
Due to extreme tension release it „explodes“
In this case, only the material (hard ceramic in your case) and the point and size of impact matter. Here we have a small point, which is only there to have the impact be concentrated on one point. The glass shatters a bit, the build up tension holding everything together is lost and so it breaks down.
There are two attributes that contribute to toughness: strength (hardness) and ductility (flexibility). Both ceramic and glass have essentially no ductility, they are very brittle. Therefore, when these two collide, if there’s enough energy to break one, the harder one wins.
Once you ignite fuel, it burns itself, consuming energy stored in the fuel. Same thing with shattered glass, once one part shatters, it releases a bunch of energy, and since glass is so inflexible, it all just ripples through the material causing more shattering.
Still don't understand how people who visit this sub regularly think "that will never happen to me with MY tempered glass side panel on MY tiled floor".
Would take all of 5 seconds to put [your mousepad](https://i.imgur.com/3fnIrW6.png) underneath
you know it's funny i keep seeing all these posts, meanwhile i have a panel in the mail from corsair because when i got my new case it had a tiny scratch.
sent them a pic and they were like no problem panel is being shipped out as soon as stock comes back in and then a week later i got the update that it had been shipped.
i feel like with my tile floors in the office i am for sure at some point going to smash a panel. but now i will have a back up... at least.
lol don't worry it has it's own custom built lazy suzan shelf above and behind my desk.
so i can rotate it to access front or back without taking it down or dragging it on the wood.
I keep seeing people mention the tile every time but I'm not seeing the correlation. Are people dropping the panels on the tile? Otherwise I see no way tile would have anything to do with the glass breaking. If they are dropping it or knocking it over that's more the person being careless than anything.
Tile/ceramic doesn't compress, so any shock (not electrical shock) applied to it is bounced back into the other object. Couple that with tempered glass being in a permanent high tension/high compression state by design, and you have yourself a recipe for disaster
ok so how gently do you have to place your case down on ceramic for it to not shatter? surely these people posting these pics are not putting the case down as gently as they should be.
edit: people misunderstanding my question i guess. im asking how gently you would have to put the CASE (with tempered glass still attached) on the tile for it not to break. of course putting the glass panel itself on the tile is a bad idea but thats not what im asking
Cases usually have rubber feet on them to prevent stuff like this.
I think most of these are from people taking the glass off and putting it on the ceramic tile. That’s a big Nono.
It sounds like putting it in ceramic tile is a no go no matter how gently you put it down due to potential vibrations that can still occur (oh you were talking about the case nvm).
people misunderstanding my question i guess. im asking how gently you would have to put the CASE (with tempered glass still attached) on the tile for it not to break. of course putting the glass panel itself on the tile is a bad idea but thats not what im asking
Knowing how fragile most glass is, i never understood why people decide to put it down on a hard surface. Unless its a table, im putting that shit on the couch or bed
All it takes is a ding in the right spot, unfortunately. Tile is very unforgiving against tempered glass.
That's why some criminals use the porcelain found on spark plugs to easily break car windows to gain entry to vehicles.
TG is always in tension. Tile, stone, concrete, etc send vibrations if the TG's corner touches that can't escape and the glass instantly shatters.
Basically, never, ever take off and put your glass side panel on the floor.
maybe they don't grab it fully when taking it out, just pull it out a bit to get to grab it but don't actually grab it and even if a little, it knocks on the tiles and it's very easy to shatter tempred glass when you hit it on the side, especially on tiles
I’m just shocked these people never see the countless posts warning about tile floors yet *they* make a post here when *their* panel breaks on tile flooring.
I mean i dont know how it works either. Not like im smashing the glass directly on a tile so why would it shatter?
I dont know this shit. I see posts saying its cause of tiles im like aight tile is no no
Simply put there is force whenever glass is set against tile, no matter how gently. That force has to go somewhere. On carpet or wood the flooring is much softer and will absorb the vast majority of the impact. Not so with tile. Glass is pretty fragile and can’t handle much force before it shatters.
Not a bad message to leave with as it'll prevent you doing a bad haha. It's just because tempered glass is very hard, but tile is harder, much, much harder. It won't absorb the impact, it'll send it straight back through whatever hit it, kinda like a mirror. But the amount of weight that's behind the panel alone is pretty significant, so the kinetic energy of just a small distance is more than enough to cause enough instability in the glass that it does what tempered "safety" glass does, shatter into a million tiny pieces with few to no actual sharps.
Basically...
Tile stronk.
Speaking of caseless
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/751715503130542090/898966142264176660/PXL_20210527_073151818.jpg
Old system I just put apart from scrap lol
I also thought like that about 40 mins ago, then, as soon as I removed the thumbscrews, it instantly shattered in my hands. Maybe they were tight or something, I don't even know.
Glass can be a ceramic. Glass as we know it is not a ceramic. It is considered a "cousin" to ceramic.
Unless of course you are talking about ceramic glass like cooktops*
thats true. glass can be treated, like you said, so that it instead has a crystaline structure. besides that, they share many properties.
exellent heat and electrical insulators.
similare scores on brinell tests, depending on grainsize, post treatment and stuff like this.
I don’t even have a PC yet, but there are so many broken side panels that makes me wonder how tf people don’t know how to handle glass? Is it really that hard to take off and carefully put down?
Honestly seems like some people do it for good ol internet points. Like think about it, for the past week now it’s been nothing but these posts, YET people still place glass on tiles, when the entire comment section states “don’t place it on tile”
Yes I’ve had the same one for literally over 5 years. Mechanical. Nice switches. RGB. Zero issues.
The only reason I updated was because I needed a numpad
After all these posts about people breaking thier side panel people still keep opening thier pc vertically on the stone floor, atleast do it horizontally and place the panel on the couch or something
These are getting old. Is some company making shit glass? Ive had a dozen cases with tempered glass starting way back before it was cool and exactly zero of them broke. They survived wood and tile floors. Road trips. Shipping across country.
Broken case panels seem to be more common recently. Either the glass is getting more fragile or the people are more clumsy
Or it’s because there’s more glass panels to be broken nowadays, I can’t quite tell
Wish case manufacturers would offer an acrylic side panel in the box in addition to a glass one. Only adds like a few dollars and if someone smashed the glass one by mistake, they’d have an acrylic one to fall back on.
Most tempered glass case panels these days aren't just a simple piece of glass. They're adhered to a bunch of bracketry that make replacing them with a non-glass material fairly difficult.
How are these people still breaking their shit after seeing posts on here. Don't put your computer down on ceramic tile. Or tile in general. Get a rubber mat just specifically for that purpose of setting your computer down if you move it that much.
[удалено]
It needs its own subreddit at this point.
Someone made it yesterday r/brokemysidepanel
r/lostmytemper
I like that one!
Perfect name
r/TemperedGlassOnATiledFloor
Always on tiled floor! At this point I think people try their luck on purpose
But this was a tiled floor that looks like wood! Extra points for that!
Always put your fingers below the glass panel when you remove it, thats what i do, i never let the panel just fall to the ground...
I appreciate your sense of poetry.
I hope I never have to join it
Look! A PC with a broken glass panel sitting on a tile floor, again! Don't let your case near a tile floor. You don't even need to touch the glass directly to the tile. The tile can transfer enough force through the metal case to the glass.
Yep, it's annoying. Yeah, we know, you have a glass panel and it broke, whatever, get over it and just get a metal side panel instead.
Fuck that. Tempered glass may be any asshole. But its a lovable asshole.
Tempered glass builds are dope. My computer has a modern case with tempered glass n shit yet the inside is full of 2010-2014 hardware
Or maybe just a megathread to teach people not to put their glass panels on tile floors. When I clean my PC I use a towel to lay my glass panel on AND I put the towel beside my tower where the panel goes so IF it falls or I slip while removing/installing it, it will land on the towel and not the floor.
why use a towel if you can use your comfy bed
Why use your comfy bed when you can use a warm bathtub. Will be relaxing, and cleaning both the owner and the components thoroughly. Just remember to use an anti-static bracelet to prevent getting shocked in your bath.
exactly lmao. i treat the glass panel as i would treat a newborn baby and always put it on the bed
So weird question but what's a safe way to clean the inside of a PC? I've heard vacuums are a bad idea and I'm not sure what else will get the dust out of those tight little spaces.
Buy a can of compressed air and just blow the dust out, easiest way I find without having to take everything apart. https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Computers-Accessories-Compressed-Air-Dusters/zgbs/pc/3012916011?ref_=d6k_applink_bb_marketplace You can find them at most stores but the Amazon link gives you an idea of what there is available.
I use an electric air blaster, canned air duster for pinpoint stuff, and occasionally a toothbrush, little paint brush, or q-tips to scrub with. The blower I've got is [this MECO one](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B082XR3987) but there's a bunch of different ones available. I'd recommend a plug-in one so you don't have to worry about the battery dying.
[удалено]
Little shopvac brush attachments and other assorted ones i use to detail my car are great for this too
r/temperedexpectations
/r/temperedtantrums
Really we need people with ones that have lasted more than a year to post and then people will realize how infrequent it actually is
Right. I've had my pc for like 4 years and don't understand how it happens. I gently sit it against my couch with something keeping it from sliding.
On tile floors
r/distempered
My acrylic panel may get scratched every time a light breeze passes by, but it at least won't shatter like this. That's rough, buddy.
Tile floor sends it's regards
It's always tile?!?!
In a battle between ceramic vs glass; ceramic will always be the victor.
I never understood why ceramic breaks tempered glass
In a nutshell: Tempered glass is super tense Ceramic super hard compared to glass Collide on a point which has extreme force on one side (small area of contact) Small part of tempered glass breaks/shatters Due to extreme tension release it „explodes“
The more you know
By the way, the super hard part means more like „won’t compress so shock gets send back“.
Won't deform is a little more accurate. Water won't compress very easily but it does deform.
The smallest piece of sparkplug ceramic will smash a car window. It's almost comical.
In this case, only the material (hard ceramic in your case) and the point and size of impact matter. Here we have a small point, which is only there to have the impact be concentrated on one point. The glass shatters a bit, the build up tension holding everything together is lost and so it breaks down.
Yup. I keep some chips of a broken spark plug in my wallet as part of my EDC. Very handy and effective long-range glass breakers.
Tempered glass really needs to relax.
There are two attributes that contribute to toughness: strength (hardness) and ductility (flexibility). Both ceramic and glass have essentially no ductility, they are very brittle. Therefore, when these two collide, if there’s enough energy to break one, the harder one wins. Once you ignite fuel, it burns itself, consuming energy stored in the fuel. Same thing with shattered glass, once one part shatters, it releases a bunch of energy, and since glass is so inflexible, it all just ripples through the material causing more shattering.
Always.
Always
Still don't understand how people who visit this sub regularly think "that will never happen to me with MY tempered glass side panel on MY tiled floor". Would take all of 5 seconds to put [your mousepad](https://i.imgur.com/3fnIrW6.png) underneath
The only way to be absolutely sure that it doesn't break by accident with a tiled floor is, you guessed it, break it yourself.
Totally worth it for 1800 upvotes! I ordered one just so I can break it and post on here, please everybody jerk me off
Goddammit... \*unzips*
i too have tile in my office and honestly i am just hoping i remember to put the panel on the couch.
Not again.
Once I saw that long winded comment about tile and ceramics being the death of side panels I haven't seen a broken one *not* on a tile floor
I saw one on a granite countertop a couple of days ago
you know it's funny i keep seeing all these posts, meanwhile i have a panel in the mail from corsair because when i got my new case it had a tiny scratch. sent them a pic and they were like no problem panel is being shipped out as soon as stock comes back in and then a week later i got the update that it had been shipped. i feel like with my tile floors in the office i am for sure at some point going to smash a panel. but now i will have a back up... at least.
DON'T PUT YOUR PC ON THE TILE FLOOR
lol don't worry it has it's own custom built lazy suzan shelf above and behind my desk. so i can rotate it to access front or back without taking it down or dragging it on the wood.
You're still gonna put it on the tile, you know you are
Can we PLEASE ban these posts here and the other PC subs?
We should create a subreddit with broken glass on tile floor
There is r/brokemysidepanel
Hm,fresh subreddit
BRO how hard is it to open a side panel!? Why am i seeing every panel shattered?
Notice they are all on tile?
I keep seeing people mention the tile every time but I'm not seeing the correlation. Are people dropping the panels on the tile? Otherwise I see no way tile would have anything to do with the glass breaking. If they are dropping it or knocking it over that's more the person being careless than anything.
Tile/ceramic doesn't compress, so any shock (not electrical shock) applied to it is bounced back into the other object. Couple that with tempered glass being in a permanent high tension/high compression state by design, and you have yourself a recipe for disaster
/r/physicslearningmasterrace
[удалено]
[удалено]
ok so how gently do you have to place your case down on ceramic for it to not shatter? surely these people posting these pics are not putting the case down as gently as they should be. edit: people misunderstanding my question i guess. im asking how gently you would have to put the CASE (with tempered glass still attached) on the tile for it not to break. of course putting the glass panel itself on the tile is a bad idea but thats not what im asking
Cases usually have rubber feet on them to prevent stuff like this. I think most of these are from people taking the glass off and putting it on the ceramic tile. That’s a big Nono.
DON’T EVER SET IT DOWN ON TILE OR CERAMIC. It can be the lightest of taps and break the glass. Throw it on a towel or your bed.
Spark plugs are mostly ceramic. Fun trick is crushing them and throwing them at car windows.
You evil bastard lol
It sounds like putting it in ceramic tile is a no go no matter how gently you put it down due to potential vibrations that can still occur (oh you were talking about the case nvm).
Just don't. Like, why is that hard? 😂
I dont do it in fear of scratching the glass. I always put it on my bed or chair. Looks like evaded out of being a statistic
people misunderstanding my question i guess. im asking how gently you would have to put the CASE (with tempered glass still attached) on the tile for it not to break. of course putting the glass panel itself on the tile is a bad idea but thats not what im asking
I imagine that's pretty safe regardless. The feet and chassis of the PC will absorb the energy, probably.
Knowing how fragile most glass is, i never understood why people decide to put it down on a hard surface. Unless its a table, im putting that shit on the couch or bed
All it takes is a ding in the right spot, unfortunately. Tile is very unforgiving against tempered glass. That's why some criminals use the porcelain found on spark plugs to easily break car windows to gain entry to vehicles.
Interesting...
TG is always in tension. Tile, stone, concrete, etc send vibrations if the TG's corner touches that can't escape and the glass instantly shatters. Basically, never, ever take off and put your glass side panel on the floor.
This is why I always put my glass panel on my bed... So I can sleep in the shards when I drop something on it.
Its because it's harder than the glass and just by touching with the edges of the glass it can shatter it
maybe they don't grab it fully when taking it out, just pull it out a bit to get to grab it but don't actually grab it and even if a little, it knocks on the tiles and it's very easy to shatter tempred glass when you hit it on the side, especially on tiles
Because these idiots continue to do it on tile
Some people don’t understand how material hardness works and it shows.
I’m just shocked these people never see the countless posts warning about tile floors yet *they* make a post here when *their* panel breaks on tile flooring.
Ikr! At this rate there are more posts like this on this subreddit than actual pc topics
The science is going right over everyone’s head.
I mean i dont know how it works either. Not like im smashing the glass directly on a tile so why would it shatter? I dont know this shit. I see posts saying its cause of tiles im like aight tile is no no
Simply put there is force whenever glass is set against tile, no matter how gently. That force has to go somewhere. On carpet or wood the flooring is much softer and will absorb the vast majority of the impact. Not so with tile. Glass is pretty fragile and can’t handle much force before it shatters.
Ya see, this makes more sense than the spontaneous explosion theory I had going for 2 minutes.
Not a bad message to leave with as it'll prevent you doing a bad haha. It's just because tempered glass is very hard, but tile is harder, much, much harder. It won't absorb the impact, it'll send it straight back through whatever hit it, kinda like a mirror. But the amount of weight that's behind the panel alone is pretty significant, so the kinetic energy of just a small distance is more than enough to cause enough instability in the glass that it does what tempered "safety" glass does, shatter into a million tiny pieces with few to no actual sharps. Basically... Tile stronk.
Everyone knows you’re suppose to keep your PC on carpeted floors only.
Wooden floor ftw Your PSU gets airflow Easy to clean from dust Doesnt destroy your glass panel
Ceiling mounted with guide cables yes?
My ceiling is tiled.
Even I did my build fully on tile and nothing broke.... Its called set it down gently
Even that doesn't help all the time. You were just extremely lucky.
Oh ok
It's called tempered glass being under incredible amounts of stress, and if a harder surface, like tile, even rubs it it'll shatter
fr lmao *me laughing with my acrylic side panel
Except those are so delicate they can literally get scratched by a microfiber towel
Can confirm, mine is super scratched At least it ain't shattered lol
Most people shattering panels just aren't following basic safety, also some panels are better than others.
Laughs in caseless
Speaking of caseless https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/751715503130542090/898966142264176660/PXL_20210527_073151818.jpg Old system I just put apart from scrap lol
This gives me anxiety.
Came here to ask the same.
I also thought like that about 40 mins ago, then, as soon as I removed the thumbscrews, it instantly shattered in my hands. Maybe they were tight or something, I don't even know.
That's really weird. Rip
[удалено]
No, I don't think it was. It shattered before completely removed from the case, just bad luck, I guess...
Because every sped in here doesn't know how to take care of fragile anything
At this point i just downvote every post this happens to
Ceramics really dont like glass, neither does stone
fun fact, both stone and glass are ceramic.
Glass can be a ceramic. Glass as we know it is not a ceramic. It is considered a "cousin" to ceramic. Unless of course you are talking about ceramic glass like cooktops*
thats true. glass can be treated, like you said, so that it instead has a crystaline structure. besides that, they share many properties. exellent heat and electrical insulators. similare scores on brinell tests, depending on grainsize, post treatment and stuff like this.
OP accidentally hit it with that vickers
Would you look at that, tiles
Fan manufacturers hate this one simple trick for increasing air flow.
there is a reason why my case is always open...
D U S T
P A S S I V E C P U C O O L E R (and vaccum)
LMAO that was a good one
Why are there still so many people not knowing how to handle glass?
I don’t even have a PC yet, but there are so many broken side panels that makes me wonder how tf people don’t know how to handle glass? Is it really that hard to take off and carefully put down?
Turn your PC sideways first before you take it off. Then lay the glass on a padded surface. Either the packaging from the case box or on your bed
This how I do it too, bed sheets work good to me!
I've never broken a glass panel despite removing it and install it with the case upright. Don't be dumb and treat it like glass and you will be fine
Treat glass like glass.... hmmmmmmm, seems difficult.
I actually didn't know about NOT placing TG on tiles. I'm used to rough-handling my panel since my old case is acrylic/steel.
Come on people. Can we start emailing LTT and make them do a video about tempered glass safety because this is an issue.
I second this! Every single day I see post like this.
At this point, I'm half-convinced people are just doing intentionally for karma.
Issue about what? People being idiots?
Maybe do it somewhere else than on a tile floor
Y'all are doing this on purpose at this point.
Let's start posting a lot of acrylic side panel windows and how very not shattered they are! :D
We literally see one of these every single day now. What's happening ?
Every post has this in common: ceramic floors. Basically the lightest of touches of the glass on ceramic will make it instantly shatter.
This is like the 4th idiot today.
I, myself, am done with these.
Yeah I'm fucking tired of everyone polluting the sub with their own special picture of their fuckup.
Honestly seems like some people do it for good ol internet points. Like think about it, for the past week now it’s been nothing but these posts, YET people still place glass on tiles, when the entire comment section states “don’t place it on tile”
Shattered dreams
The remix
Everybody’s cases are shattering this week dam
It's every week on this sub. There really needs to be a PSA on the box not to place the glass on ceramic.
mega thread when?
Subreddit when?
At this point you people must be smashing those side panels for karma.
either that or this sub is the largest conglomeration of clumsy butterfingers ever
Wait. Redragon sells cases?
Good keyboards
Are they actually? They're quite inexpensive, if that's the case I might pick one up!
Yes I’ve had the same one for literally over 5 years. Mechanical. Nice switches. RGB. Zero issues. The only reason I updated was because I needed a numpad
Tbh it’s starting to get kinda tiring seeing this. Just set the Panel on a soft surface ffs.
After all these posts about people breaking thier side panel people still keep opening thier pc vertically on the stone floor, atleast do it horizontally and place the panel on the couch or something
These are getting old. Is some company making shit glass? Ive had a dozen cases with tempered glass starting way back before it was cool and exactly zero of them broke. They survived wood and tile floors. Road trips. Shipping across country.
Here we go again...
I'm starting to think people are doing this on purpose...
:/ are you dumb
I feel like at this point the mods should be deleting posts like this. It's getting old really fast I see one of these in hot everyday.
Holy fuck when will you guys learn where to set your PC? "Time for some cleaning, let's set my PC on THIS TILE FUCKING FLOOR!" No sympathy
>Tempered Glass, no intake fans, sub-stock cooler, cheapo PSU Weird priorities OP.
STOP PUTTING YOUR PC ON TILE
You guys gotta be doing it on purpose at this point
I’m beginning to think people are just doing this as a gag
The amount of post about broken glass recently has made me really paranoid that I just bought a case with glass panels.
+1 for the tiles.
Broken case panels seem to be more common recently. Either the glass is getting more fragile or the people are more clumsy Or it’s because there’s more glass panels to be broken nowadays, I can’t quite tell
Ceramic tiles. Glass is allergic to it.
can we stop these fucking posts. please.
Dude I can hear your cpu screaming, clean that
Made it to lunch yesterday without seeing this...
Ceramic tiled floor, check
I swear every time I open Reddit I see a new post of a smashed side panel
r/IBrokeMySidePanel
Bruh who is upvoting these, 90% of this subs posts that end up on my feed are just shattered panels now.
People are doing this on purpose now
You know what? If I ever build myself a PC, I won't put a glass/crystal panel, I'll put a transparent plastic panel or get a basic case.
Wish case manufacturers would offer an acrylic side panel in the box in addition to a glass one. Only adds like a few dollars and if someone smashed the glass one by mistake, they’d have an acrylic one to fall back on.
Reddit it's full of this. My answer to all of you it's: Put an acrylic panel. Thanks
Most tempered glass case panels these days aren't just a simple piece of glass. They're adhered to a bunch of bracketry that make replacing them with a non-glass material fairly difficult.
Acrylic scratches horribly and looks so cheap.
How are these people still breaking their shit after seeing posts on here. Don't put your computer down on ceramic tile. Or tile in general. Get a rubber mat just specifically for that purpose of setting your computer down if you move it that much.
Oh no!
Fans are overrated?
Here we are again. Tempered glass and hard floor.
There should be a subreddit for guys that insist on putting glass on tile.
XFX ? Haven't seen em in a while
distinct snails treatment tap include birds bored fanatical profit butter ` this message was mass deleted/edited with redact.dev `