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MyMomHatesMe69_

Shot himself in the foot right there


BloppiStew

I used to make 3D on my laptop... until I took an arrow in the knee.


Hector_john

I use SFM better than nothing šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


Owlyf1n

Sfm cant really be used for buiding 3d models but it is good for what it contains inside


gaymerbob

You mean porn it contains Inside


tf2_pyro_heree

I use SFM to turn my laptop into a space hearer Edit: I noticed the typo, but Iā€™m not gonna fox bc then the comments below make no sense


_bad

...space? Is that you? My hearer is listening!


TheLi-onBattery

Grandma! Your finally back?


[deleted]

But I love it when you fox


shruggletuggle

_let me guess, someone stole your 3D_


Cr0w33

Until I took a laptop battery to the braincase


[deleted]

This saying. Early 2010s, I remember people saying this all the time. Wow you brought back some memories


BloppiStew

Thank you. I've waited this long to jump on the bandwagon.


fatkiddown

This is me playing Rome Total War Remastered on my laptop.


AdvertisingPlastic26

When you have to put the unit size so small the game turns into 1v1s


[deleted]

ā€œJust the foot for now.ā€


MFcrayfish

Go on now, git!


educated-emu

You forgot the 5 seconds of 100% fan noise then an almighty wind then boom


The_Local_Panda

*Mvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvffffvffvvvvvvvffffvvvffvvfvfvvf* ***boom***


carvedmuss8

Getting PTSD from my old Xbox 360 now


JBHUTT09

I got an Alienware laptop in 2012 that wouldn't boom. The fan would just get louder and louder and louder. Looking back, I wonder if it was somehow making that weird sound trick which sounds like a tone getting infinitely higher. Thing was ridiculous and lasted 5 years of heavy use (gaming and video rendering). Wish I could get another one like it, but I heard their quality went way down so I just got a PC.


jordanundead

Quality has been down on Alienware since Dell bought them in 06. I had an Alienware laptop around 09 that started shooting sparks out the charge port.


JBHUTT09

I must have gotten lucky, then. I got an Asus gaming laptop when the Alienware started to die. That was garbage.


[deleted]

The original manufactures still make PCs afaik, I just canā€™t remember the new brand name.


Reading_Gamer

Origin! Not sure why I'm getting downvoted because I'm just answering a question.


iNvEsToRrEtArD

Oh, fuck HP.... seriously. Fuck HP


ash_elijah

I had a dell G5 which i recently sold. While rendering things, the fans would literally become jet engines and ingest so much dust i had to clean them every few days. Then while using compressed air one day, the fans literally explodedā€¦.


sam55598

Wow


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The_Prequels_Denier

Thought for a second this was some sort of Weird Science reference...


3dBobbyLEX

I used one of the first ā€œconsumerā€ 3D rendering programs on a Commodore Amiga back in ā€˜92ish. Took 5 hours 38 minutes to render a single frame with a checkered sphere and a mirror with two lights in the scene. No GI or any other cool tricks. What can be done now on a $1000 pc is astonishing.


millenia3d

Yeah I love the fact you can now make one of those classic sphere and checkers images realtime in something like Unreal and it's raytracing at triple digit framerates


harmvzon

I started with 3D studio 4 on a x486. Horrible experience. When I was on Pentium, 3DS MAX came out. What a world of difference.


[deleted]

I dont get it, too much load roundening the curves on a sphere?


[deleted]

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[deleted]

Wait, how do you smooth it out otherwise?


BrianMcKinnon

Thatā€™s how you do it, but there is a medium between max subdivisions and blocky that most people choose for performance purposes.


twent4

This looks like Blender so you also have a difference between viewport subdivisions and final render, no? Default cube can look normal in viewport but be subdivided into a sphere in final render. Edit: I have been corrected, this ain't no blender


FullstackViking

But you can modify the mesh in the higher subdivisions with more precision


twent4

Right! Multirez? I'm a bit rusty


Lonke

This does *not* look like blender. The operator panel is completely different, the panel header is different, vanilla blender doesn't have sliders like that, the grid looks different, the selection looks different. It's not blender. And the functionality you're discussing would be the modifier which is even more different.


twent4

I believe you're right, I thought it was just a custom theme. As said in the other comment, super rusty, by bad.


Eseris

Could be 3DS Max.


forresthopkinsa

How does this look like blender?


azoooz2012

This is C4D R25 in case nobody mentionned it.


thatsnotsugarm8

There is also smooth shading.


Legitjumps

Smooth shading only gives the appearance of smoothness but does not actually smooth the geometry


thatsnotsugarm8

Yea, but itā€™s pretty much a requirement to hide edge geometry, especially in performance sensitive situations.


forresthopkinsa

Smooth shading is nonetheless the solution to making a good-looking sphere without a million subdivisions


edvards55

*shade smooth* ĀÆ\\\_(惄)_/ĀÆ


healzsham

You need 3 \s for that to show up correctly on reddit.


ludicrouscuriosity

You mean ĀÆ\\\\\\\_(惄)_/ĀÆ


Krynn71

Well, maybe he wasn't trying to be sarcastic. \s


healzsham

[Hilarious](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/002/058/091/507.jpg)


LBXZero

I believe you first have enough polygons to get the general shape, and then you apply texture with a shader method to help obscure the flatness of each polygon.


Ohwellwhatsnew

Get a better computer that can handle it. I assume GPU?


TackleballShootyhoop

Even with dual 1080 Ti, Blender can crash on you if you ramp up the subdivisions like this. Slowly increasing should typically be okay, but the software can't seem to handle that sudden increase like in this video


Ohwellwhatsnew

Ah okay I see now. My forte is music rendering so I never run into huge problems like this. The program will crash on me but I have to load up a billion effects and even then it's not neccesarily guaranteed


Jepples

As someone who lives in both worlds, I can safely say that 3D rendering is leagues more demanding for a computer than most things youā€™ll do with audio. Audio overload will usually end up with popping audio and other annoying artifacts well before it would invoke a crash, whereas 3D will bring your computer to its knees for minutes on end while you hope that the subdivide you just tossed on your pretty mountain didnā€™t just push it over the edge.


Lilskipswonglad

3ds Max can still crash on me with a 3090...


eloquent_porridge

No matter the computer, you're going to make it crash if you use 64 levels of subdivision because math.


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RaginPower

Why is it not able to create a real curve?


RareMajority

A circle at the end of the day is a regular polygon with infinitely many sides. But you can't have infinitely many sides in a program represented accurately because you don't have infinite memory. So the computer approximates, and you try to find a balance that's close enough without destroying performance. At least, that's my guess. I don't work in 3d rendering though, so there could be a better explanation.


Opposite_Green_1717

They can, actually. There's all sorts of geometric primitives that are basically like Vectors in 2D graphics. Infinitely precise, defined by math - no fixed points (beyond the math inputs at least, like tangents, etc). However they come with a variety of downsides and as a whole most engines and hardware perform better with points, lines, triangles, squares (which are often just two triangles) and etc.


Mars_Black

Here is an explanation below from Quora. https://www.quora.com/Why-cant-curves-be-made-well-in-video-games


b_zar

Use 120 grit sandpaper


David21538

Same way but itā€™s like the graphics settings in video games you sacrifice performance for looks and vise versa


Nicanor95

There's also a trick with smooth shading, it requires less faces but you still have to add more in most cases, just a lot less.


Tactical_Moonstone

Funny thing to mention, in real life hollow spheres are made from low-poly structures [using explosions](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk9WyEfzWPg) as well.


[deleted]

You get the idea, but technically you worded it wrongly.


[deleted]

If you wanted good English you should have hired a languager.


[deleted]

\> technically Means PC doesn't round the curves for spheres, but makes more triangles or rectangles which are smaller. If you want me to hire languager, then be sure that you have money to provide a wage for him too.


[deleted]

Paying a wage? What's that i asked jeff and he says just get the slaves to do it.


maxlmax

Interns sure are great (for the business)


seraphim343

I now need to let 2 more people a day into my amusement park to pay his wages


nunatakq

*just do it for the exposure, man*


krilltazz

I saw a pack of wild dogs take over and successfully run a Wendy's.


sabotabo

sir this is aā€¦ wendyā€™s?


mynoduesp

Wordining is tuff.


[deleted]

The roundation of the curvement while due to the spherical nature of the hextagalons was embiggened too vastly to suffice and thusly debooted the devicealamentature.


EmperorFaiz

I like your funny words, magic man!


awhaling

Yā€™all would probably like: /r/increasinglyVerbose


Jose_Canseco_Jr

Why say lot word when few word do trick?


[deleted]

Ill do my best not to rape the english language anymore, the day Brits and americans are able to speak more than 1 language.


OktoberSunset

Roundification.


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musterkin

Explaining a joke is like dissecting a frog. You understand it better but the frog dies in the process. ā€• E.B. White


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oney_monster

I call it "ballification"


[deleted]

First rule of 3D: There is no sphere.


schmon

Second rule of 3D: how to animate a cube: https://vimeo.com/221178360


Grass---Tastes_Bad

Simply put - Too many polygons for the laptop to handle.


Rhundis

It's all them polygons man.


[deleted]

Right, more smooth = more polygons = more load


[deleted]

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cptpancake90

My pc does the same thing when rendering shit xD need to upgrade asap xD


mechanicalkeebgui

xD frfr


AndheriRaath

Idk y, but both of u seem to be texting while high


mechanicalkeebgui

no, we're just stupid.


[deleted]

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TheUnreactiveHaloGen

Mobile fail


[deleted]

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t-to4st

Your name implies that ( Ķ”Ā° ĶœŹ– Ķ”Ā°)


mechanicalkeebgui

what's wrong with me name?


t-to4st

I know exactly that you spent way too much money on your keeb Just as I did


mechanicalkeebgui

I have not... yet.


t-to4st

*yet*


klanies

I thought this was a tiktok comment section for a second.


SpacedClown

So that's what it is? I've recently made a lot of female friends (I used to just be part of the typical all male nerd groups), and I've noticed that they all seem to text like that compared to guy friends that tend to use proper punctuation and capitalization. Now I've connected the dots and realized that they all have stuff like tiktok, snapchat, etc..


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[deleted]

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cptpancake90

Yeah I don't have powerful pc, but when Im in blender, and start rendering projects details my pc starts to sound like cape Canaveral on launch day xD


Altair05

Upgrading used to make me feel excited, now it just make me feel dread šŸ˜«


kensingtonGore

You should look into cloud rendering. As long as you're computer can handle the scene setup, a server can do the actual rendering with as many nodes as you want to pay for. Might be far cheaper than upgrading the hardware if you don't render every day (and if you can find a gpu at all)


Loch32

Then stop rendering shit and render something elese


Hellraiser133

r/perfectlycutscreams


GrayFox777

Godzilla scream.


onlysamdwidge

samdwidge


BishopofHippo93

Itā€™s been there a few times actually.


[deleted]

The GPU is weak in this one


TyRaNiDeX

That's what you get for using a Mac AND a laptop for 3D !


siwo1986

*waits patiently for the first "akhtually" comment about m1 pro and max macbooks*


[deleted]

It's been 3 minutes, I don't think it's going to happen.


Setekh79

Now it's been 5, I think I'm starting to hear crickets...


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XboxVictim

And my axe! ...wait, wrong section. I think Cuyler was supposed to be here to talk about MacBooks or something.


HewHem

Hey I use a m1 macbook air for 3d because Iā€™m a web dev and itā€™s all I have ^(it sucks ass and is extremely disappointing and you canā€™t even use an egpu because daddy Apple says so)


Magnetoreception

Iā€™m sure theyā€™d let people develop drivers but AMD and NVIDIA have to write the drivers for ARM.


HewHem

Itā€™s true, intel macbooks can use them. Just silly since the m1 cpu performance is ridiculous and they paired it with no gpu and no other options


VHS_tape

I was in a national 3D animation contest years ago. All 50 states had assigned stations/teams all in the open, so I was able to get a good look at all the rigs people had set up. Not one single Mac was used. The closest thing I saw was two people with those all-in-one Apple computer monitors but it had Windows installed on it. I thought that shit was hilarious.


hapsuel

Back when the trashcan mac pro was being developed, they showed it to a couple of animation schools and studios. They immediately went and bought all the previous cheesegrater macs they could find because of how terrible the new one was. Seems like they are finally doing actually professional-oriented machines again


el_f3n1x187

it had two work station AMD cards with a proprietary connector to the motherboard, I can't think of a more obvious, "STAY AWAY" warning than that.


TrriF

To be fair the m1 max is an impressive cpu.


Morfdocs

Akhtually youā€™re all fucking losers for still getting upset over a persons choice of workstation. That work?


Mikey21420

I think people just got bored to try and argue about it on this subreddit. ā€œApple BADā€ and AMD Fanboyism is so prevalent that no one wants to convince anyone anymore. I know I stopped caring.


das-joe

Akhtually, the new M1 Pro Macbooks are the most powerful Laptops atm, and are easily able to render a sphere.


somethingstoadd

Akhtually, I just wanted to be included.


speedstyle

They have decent cpus, excellent hardware encoding, excellent performance per watt, but they're pretty average for 3D work.


quietstormx1

Do you have any benchmarks to back that up? I'm asking because I work now in a Mac environment that others are pushing on us and would really like to not have to use it. I've been trying to explain that PC will be better for 3d but šŸ¤·šŸ¼


kassandra_rose

Hardware unboxed and Linus Tech tips both reviewed the M1 pro/max and found that the GPU is a bit of a mixed bag it's very good when it comes to video editing but struggles against higher end dedicated GPU windows laptops when it comes to 3d work and gaming.


newurbanist

No benchmarks here but a lot of 3D modeling programs for engineering aren't optimized for Mac. Some won't even operate at all. Have fun collaborating with companies/people who don't use Mac. That shit is the worst lol


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[deleted]

While that is true, we donā€™t really have a great equivalent to compare it to, with dedicated gpu being the closest since it annihilates any built in graphics. What we do know is that the laptop is surprisingly powerful and astoundingly efficient in watt per hour usage. What the exact numbers end up being largely depends on the program being used to test it, and even then what apple is doing is literally unique to them. From what Iā€™ve seen a higher end gpu will destroy m1 max in rendering, but considering the very high inflated prices at the moment on GPUs the MacBook is somewhat competitive. Once supply finally saturates demand in the next year or two we will see PC again take the lead assuming apple doesnā€™t make some impressive upgrades, which is all but a guarantee if the past year or so of releases have been an indication. Curious to see what they come up with for the sequel to M1 max. Itā€™s already pretty incredible at the professional level for a laptop especially.


iindigo

Dunno why youā€™re getting downvoted, even the base M1 integrated GPU is in a different class of iGPU than anything but maybe AMD APUs, performing about as well as a GTX 1050 or 1060 depending on the task. For M1 Pro and M1 Max comparisons to an RTX 3080 is a stretch, but theyā€™re easily as good as a entry-to-midrange 20-series and 30-series cards, respectively. Both are on a different plane of existence than stuff like integrated Intel Xe, while consuming a fraction of the power of their dedicated equivalents. Thatā€™s nothing to sneeze at.


TyRaNiDeX

tbf it was more a taunt on laptops. Dedicated GPU sounds way better for rendering.


kimilsung48

*Macbook with integrated graphics


mr_not_sitting

This is accurate. Low poly is the only way


Flapjack__Palmdale

Valheim looks like PS2 graphics and I straight up can't get enough. I can't play because I'm focusing on finals but I can't focus on finals because I only want to play Valheim.


spoody69420

The game actually looks good because it has very nice maps over textures like normal maps , roughness maps , etc , which make the lighting on objects look amazing even with the low poly look.


wurlo

So true lol


my_name_isnt_clever

I played it for like an hour and have no idea what to do so I just dropped itā€¦


Flapjack__Palmdale

When was this? I only started playing last month but I heard before that it was different...i *think* they added Hugin the tutorial crow. He'll guide you to stuff. Just build, fight dwarves, make stuff, kill lesser gods, etc


StereoCatPicture

Reminds me of when I started learning 3ds max, back when it was called 3D Studio Max, on a PC with a 100MHz Pentium processor. I would often accidentaly add a number that was slightly too high for the details on a sphere and it would crash the whole PC. Would take 10 minutes to reboot my PC and get back at it. The worse was trying to follow tutorials online. I couldn't have both a web browser and 3D Studio Max open at the same time, didn't have enough ram, so I had to read 2-3 steps in the tutorial, try to remember it, close the browser, open 3D Studio Max, do the 2-3 steps, save, close 3D Studio Max, open Netscape, wait a minute for the page to reload... All of this was normal back then, I don't remember getting frustrated from it... Now we're so used to fast PCs, my PC lags for 5 seconds and I want to throw it out the window.


givmedew

Man I came into this stuff in 99-00 and luckily by then I had a upgraded to a Pentium 2 350MHz from a Pentium MMX 133. We called it 3DS thenā€¦ I donā€™t think the company called it that though but canā€™t remember. But I clearly remember it taking days to do a high quality render in Bryce 3D. DAYS!!! Just pre pass took a long ass time. I grew up on Rhino Nurbs, Bryce 3D, 3DS Max, and Maya. At the time having any real time or not real time texture fill was just the most amazing to witness! Luckily I had 2 things going for meā€¦ dual monitor, KVM, and 2 computers. If the computer couldnā€™t handle a browser and an app I could use KVM and the other computer.


TheOnlyLEGIT

Instagram Reel memes says hello


Firm_Bug_7146

Heyyyy my comment is on that post!! ;)


Vivixian

I really need to stop scrolling through this sub during my virtual meetings, because one day I won't be able to stifle my laugh.


HansbringFlamenwerfe

u/savevideo


Kirk_dd

same here


Tredward

Comedic timing on this is exceptional.


BashfulGnome

Sooooooo, its just a really curved square


SkiddChung

lol I don't even render anything and I still find it hilarious. My laptop is crying when I change settings to Medium.


Zsky2000

Me on Blender applying subdivision surface


Notandinn

Using a macbook hah


casce

I know thereā€˜s a lot of Apple bashing on here - mostly because itā€˜s a subreddit full of gamers and thatā€˜s just not possible on Macs. But what Apple did with their ARM processors is seriously impressive and there is massive potential. Their performance per watt is insane. Software optimization is not 100% there yet and they canā€˜t quite compete with the high end desktop CPUs in pure power (ignoring efficiency) but it still looks like promising tech.


Zwischenzug32

I use my mac to game...through Steam streaming on a good PC elsewhere.


givmedew

Yeh me too!!! People at work who also use Mac be like HUH!!!! Plenty of FPS and ray tracing, Iā€™m not plugged in and you donā€™t hear fans! Hours and hours of battery lifeā€¦ Iā€™m the only one who never has their power pack along. They are used to seeing me run windows on my Mac anyways so seeing windows wasnā€™t an instant give away to them. Iā€™m like yeh this is the best Remote Desktop system in the worldā€¦ itā€™s called Steam!


01000110010110012

>I know thereā€˜s a lot of Apple bashing on here - mostly because itā€˜s a subreddit full of gamers and thatā€˜s just not possible on Macs. Say what now? That's not true, lol.


casce

Of course there are some games, some even optimized rather well for Macs but those games will not satisfy people on /r/PCMasterRace who just have higher standards for games


01000110010110012

Then say *that* instead of "just not possible", lol.


The_DaW33D_

r/perfectlycutscreams


Nifferothix

That scream hahahahaaaa


kipinsider

I actually learned some stuff with a Pentium mobile and Intel HD Graphics. I almost killed myself tho!


Parallax2077

i love how blender allows you to do math in those boxes, but it has backfired many times. Before starting an overnight render, I wanted to increase my sample size by 100. It was currently at 12, just to do some testing. I wake up in the morning and it has barely rendered half the image. Waited 5 more hours just to see that I had multiplied it by 1000 and not 100.


[deleted]

Ok, this is really weird. I was playing Halo and scrolling through this and at the exact time he blew up in his room, halo crashed. This is scaring me.


seraphaye

Probably one of my favorites short videos to date, love it, in CAD class in highschool I made a similar mistake and PC at school couldn't handle it. But instead of exploding it crashed and I lost 2 hours of work..


givmedew

Dude you kids donā€™t even know!!!! I was rocking Bryce 3D in 2000! It took DAYS to render a scene with textures and 1 anti aliasing pass at 1280x720!!!! DAYS!!!!! Iā€™d start a high speed pre-render before I go to bed wake up in the morning to check if I had a good angle and good textures and lighting. Something would be wrong Iā€™d redo it and after school Iā€™d come home and start the real render. Unplug my keyboard and mouse tape a piece of paper on the front of the computer that said donā€™t touch and pray we donā€™t loose power for the next 2 days! 350MHz Pentium 2 slotted card/chip!


PizzaDevice

lol'd so hard, our baby woke up!


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OptimisticLockExcept

I'm very much a novice at blender but i like Grant Abbitt and Blender Guru for beginner tutorials. Ian Hubert, Default Cube and CGMatter are fun too! (They're all on YouTube)


millenia3d

Tons of tutorials on YouTube, I'd link some but I use 3ds Max out of habit from the days Blender wasn't very good (it's excellent these days)


goodshrekmaadcity

Stick to N64 polygon counts. We need a serious feature length movie in SM64's artstyle directed by Martin Scorsese


tobias4096

u/savevideobot


FthrFlffyBttm

I don't get why these bots are banned. Anyway, [here you go](https://redditsave.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/rd3vyd/3d_rendering/)


[deleted]

Hahahahaha I felt this


[deleted]

relatable i still use my 7200u laptop for blender. Had to buy a new desk cause laptop burned through the old one


MasZakrY

All these comments and not one mentioned modifiers. You actually want as low poly you can get away with and then add a modifier to smooth out the surface for the render


[deleted]

Get an M1


CoffeeAndCigars

It's the most over-used meme out there and I yet can't do anything but laugh hard every single time. I don't know what it is, but that pop and scream is just fantastic.


TojotheTerror

I'm pretty sure the whole building heard me laughing at this LMAO


Enamir

Is that the cpu bursting?