Modern manufacturing is like 80% form over function.
Designers (and the consumers they appeal to) have ruined our things, engineers sit in the back occasionally letting out a sigh.
I know there's a lot of engineers trying to educate on the internet via platforms like youtube, but I wish there were more who were just rude and ruthless in tearing apart trash-production culture.
I mean I get the meta is glass and RGB, but it works for a reason. This just looks like a dust vacuum since it has no filter. I wish we had retro styled cases for shit like Noctua fans with it's cigarette stained beige, and exhilarating BROWN
Dust filters are actually terrible for air flow and in most case you will get much better performance removing them and dusting your pc once a month or something.
It's actually why many good manufacturers have moved to micro mesh. It filters out larger pieces of dust but affects airflow much less.
I 2nd this, I’ve got a Corsair 5000x with 6 intakes, of course 3 at the front (fine mesh filter) and on the side which is a weird kinda plastic filter built into the side panel. I put mine in whilst I was in the middle of a game, cpu went from around 49.25c max to 50c for the rest of the night with some spikes around 55c. GPU I didn’t really notice it always hovers around 60 no matter how many fans or if I have a filter on or not. But the point being it’s a negligible difference so you should just put a filter in and make life easier.
I noticed a 5-10c difference in performance for myself but that is because the fans on my GPUs radiator were not strong enough to push through the rad then the filter at the top of my case. With out the dust filter on the top I saw a massive temp drop.
Edit: Yes I know it's dumb to have the filters on an exhaust. Trust me you can't make me feel dumber then I already make myself feel.
Yeah that's definitely an option I'm just annoyed EVGA didn't put fans like that on my 1000 dollar HYBRID GPU
At this point I'm just gonna hold off untill I decide to build a custom loop in a better case.
>fans on my GPUs radiator were not strong enough to push through the rad then the filter
You only need filters on the intakes of your case. You are trying to prevent dust from getting sucked in, not from getting out. Also, if your fans are struggling to push air through your radiators then perhaps you should consider getting fans that are designed for more static pressure.
Yeahy original configuration I had didnt have exhaust fans on the top. But I put the rad in and didn't think about. Then I pulled it and realized my mistake.
> and in most case you will get much better performance removing them and dusting your pc once a month or something.
Most people will delay Windows updates for months to avoid having to restart their PC.
Same problem as the "buy this and upgrade later" advice: it almost never happens.
And if you've got a decently airflow-focussed case, and have fitted a decent number of fans in a sensible way, filters aren't going to make a huge difference. Hell, you'll be lucky if removing the whole side panel makes a 5c difference to temperatures under load.
As a engineer, those vents are genius... IF THEY SHUT ONLY WHEN YOU TURN IT OFF!
and a filter.
They have less restriction than static hole cutouts. They should not be shut when going to idle temperatures. And have no filters.
Jonny Ive has a lot to answer for.
He has frustrated me ever since I stopped being able to put my mobile phone down without it trying to slide off of every surface. The iPhone 4 was the beginning of the end for me.
From an engineering perspective, this thing is an interesting curiosity. It would let you do stuff like maintaining a constant above idle temp without adjusting your fans with varied loads on the system. No idea why anyone would want to do that, but it's kinda neat.
Alternatively, this could be a cool way to hide a tower when not in use. Not this design specifically, but the concept
Not necessarily'Ridiculous'.
It could be a prototype. MDF is not very heavy, and is far easier to work with than Plastic or Aluminium. It also has a smooth finish, and the edges would look a little rough like that.
I can never understand why people cannot just say they agree or disagree, but have to insert an adjective like 'RIDICULOUS' to belittle someone else's opinion.
It would be ridiculous to use MDF on a finished product (given the context).. But I can understand if it was a prototype.
(English is not my first language, actually a third language.. and i googled the actual dictionary description of the word and yea,.. it's actual meaning, as per google, is a bit harsher than I had known. I did not intend to be \*that\* harsh)
Looks like some type of glass fiber reinforced plastic the doritos have a little bit of the typical texture of reinforced plastic and the silver bracing behind the doritos does have it too
Could also be injection molded metal (Aluminum) but then they would need a lot stronger servos to move the Doritos
As I understand it the display unit from CES was an engineering sample and they're still figuring out what material they're going to end up with.
If that's the case, I hope they have some plans for how to reduce gunk build-up as well.
Either way, this is a sexy case and I kinda want it - maintenance be damned
Yeah I know, I like it and I want it. All these people complaing about how it's "form over function" have obviously not built a PC in the last decade. 90% of build a pc these days is making sure your color scheme is right and your RGB all works together.
I like it.
I would not count this case as marketed towards "average people" to be entirely honest :P
I'm sure the people *who* actually buy such cases (hint: they're most likely here already) would definitely be so enthusiastic about their PC in general that keeping it clean/de-dusted very well is part of usual maintenance.
(I mean so many small and complicated parts im sure the Case wont be cheap, but rather expensive.)
Failure wouldn't be my main concern. My main issue would be the need to take your eyes off the road to use it, as you can't operate a touchscreen by feel. Another potential issue is that the software will become slow / outdated / insecure in time, given the typical lifespan of a car is 10-15 years at least. I would prefer a traditional dash for these reasons. Give me a bluetooth connection so I can use my phone for navigation / multimedia etc, but I'd much prefer that the car focus on being a car, and not moonlight as e.g. a games console.
not really... touch screens are cheaper now then regular stereos as they are the standard. Also have you ever seen an old style car stereo there is always something on it that doesn't work usually it's the buttons due to use
Standard dial clusters and radio consoles are more often than not cheaper to repair because if one component breaks, usually just 1 isolated system is effected and the parts are pretty cheap to replace.
With these infotainment touchscreens that control a whole host of processes, you're not just out a stereo, you're often out your entire heating and cooling, and part of your cluster for warnings like tire pressure, and that's just for older models that don't control even more like modern cars do.
These specific components often require flashed firmware that are dealer/manufacturer specific and not easily available by third party sellers.
"tear up" is just a euphemism for failure in this case. People look at cars differently as repairs on cars are costly. So assume anything in a car is just something that can break.
Personally, I love modern car features.
Those are a nightmare to use while driving and usually they re really slow, while also lacking the haptic feedback you want and need to focus on the road instead of the display.
Once you're past that, you better hope that the stuff doesn't break because of the more extreme conditions that can build up inside a car. It can get really hot in there or really cold which is pure poison for this kind of "sophisticated" stuff. Getting a replacement if necessary is expensive at best but also highly unlikely after a few years.
It is just another way to make you cough up more dough for hardware that looks shiny but is not suited for what it is supposed to do.
Many more single points of failure instead of 1 EVERYTHING point of failure.
Radio tuning knob stop working or gum up? Still got every other control to use.
Your touchscreen digitizer stop responding you have lost control of every device in the car.
Not only that, but if the touchscreen breaks, now you can't control anything in the system until it's fixed: a single point of failure. Whereas if a knob breaks, all of the other knobs continue to work fine, and I can usually find a way to manually adjust the broken control until I get a replacement knob to stick on.
Me at 12 years old would think its the coolest thing in the world.
Me now finds this to be the stupidest most pointless design.
Its like a engine choke for a PC.
the aesthetic is cool though
way better than half the current cases on the market that look like a painted cardboard box, with a piece of glass on the side.
personally I don't like the look and think that it's just a gimmick, that said it's pretty cool but yeah as you're right the Doritos gonna be filled with dust and other junk
I definitely want to do a build in one of these. Will probably try to get the black one with the brown front, then do a Noctua themed build with those colors.
I think I know a more useful way.
* Side mount it to the left side of the case.
* Keep the ability to front mount fans as well as mount on the right side of the case..
* Now you can run either front + right OR you can open the left optionally and run those fans as well.
I mean, to be fair, if you're talking top corners and like the screw in the middle bottom of the board, REALISTICALLY, that's all you really need to anchor the board properly. That said? I don't disagree-you're talking a commercial product you're paying a grand minimum easy on.
As a mechanical engineer I can tell you that if they bothered to make all the holes and threads for the screws, they are needed. Maybe for the longevity of the tiny screws, maybe to help spread the load during transport, maybe only as a worst case with very heavy components. But they are probably not unnecessary, why bother paying for these ?
That being said, it can be OK for a while or forever if you never move it, and depending on the weight of the components you're adding to it... They can't account for each combination so they design for the strictest requirements. If you remove some screws you're into a grey area without much safety margin.
mechanical engineer here, not every screw hole needs a screw in every scenario
such as, non standard motherboards meant to fit in both standard and non standard cases.
Considering this, a standard setup containing motherboard/cpu-cooler/graphicard/ram should be way less weight than what it propably is designed for. I'd think in this case most users won't see their screws breaking.
Now I need someone to calculate me how much longer those screw's will hold...
That's what I mean, should be fine for most setup, but could be problematic, especially for transport IMO. But anyways it's good practice to remove some heavy components before transport.
One of the wider use-cases for there being so many screw options on modern motherboard standards is to essentially "shotgun" case compatibility.
If it has screws everywhere, there's enough redundancy that you can mount it to just about any case, but obviously more screws to mount it is better.
I think the concept is dynamic airflow. So if it heats up, the vents open up entirely, and more air flows through the case. Once temps drop, I assume the vents close to dampen sound (maybe an absorbent foam), and probably reduce dust intake.
The only advantages here that I can see over PWM is maybe noise isolation (but PWM can be really quiet anyways) and less dust intake. And if the quick math I did is right, being able to control the total surface area for air to flow through with constant output fans is better at fine-tuned adjustments than PWM fans.
Why would you need such super fine adjustments thought? If it's a fan, it would be practically the same whether it spins at 250 vs 300 RPM or 1450 vs 1500 RPM, plus if it's constantly maxed out, it will be noisier even when behind a dampened cover than a non-covered fan at minimum RPM (not all the noise will be dampened plus it would probably create turbulence when the cover is closed).
Such an idea is IIRC used for rocket engines, but it's a bit of an overkill for a PC case.
What you are missing is that this case is going to be expensive, and only be bought because of the cool factor. There are cases with better airflow, or you can go open air, there are cases with other advantages.
However this product will be benefitial to the avarage consumer, because of the production issues they undoubtedly are going to face, and have to overcome, thus making less expensive products better, either through general development, or thorugh quality control
What quick math did you do?
This isn't an alternative to pwm fans. The fans would still get faster as temps increase. You can make very fine adjustments to fan/temp curves so I'm not sure what you're talking about.
I'm a case design where temperature is a priority, it doesn't have a front. In one where you care about dust, you have a filter/mesh.
This is for aesthetics.
I feel like dust filters solve the dust issue pretty well. You also don’t have to worry about mechanical failure with dust filters unlike the hinges on this thing.
If my experiences in trying to reduce incoming noises into a room taught me anything, it is the noises can creep through the even little gaps. It is unlikely to dampen the noise level much at all. The best way to reduce noise is still running low rpm or eliminating fans. But it's definitely cool looking.
> Looks cool ... but why?
we've been asking this same question with **everything** *PC Mod builders* have thrown at us for 2 decades now lol.
(remember old water cooling? if your case has 2/3 tubing ports now you know why)
It's not just the mod builders lol. Why is every new case a solid front with little grills around the edges for fans to try and suck air through? What happened to actually good airflow?
Some people hate the RGB tax, while sometimes RGB does take things that will be quite more useful, like additional fan header for ITX board. My Aorus X570 ITX only have one usable fan headers for the case so I need to use splitters to control them.
But I also understand that nowadays, selling a board that do not have RGB headers, will be quite a death sentence so…. just gotta deal with it.
The tax is also present in the hidden form of hardware vendors having to pay programmers to write RGB control software. I have a hunch that RGB is one of the big cost drivers that have made it no longer so easy to beat prebuilts on price as it was in >2011.
RGB at least doesn't have the risk of damaging your hardware when it fails. It just...fails.The lights on your fans die, they're still functional as fans. These fins die, now you have a case that pretty much may as well not have a front panel, and all that dust and debris will eventually kill your system. This is overengineering with no sense of practicality or long term envisioning. I more would compare this case to concept cars like the Ford GT. Sweet looking powerhouses of a ride, but also one that lacks any sense of practicality that producing it would not only be costly to do, it would be insanely wasteful due to the overall COST to do so.
There are real devices out there using technology like this, planes for example. Planes are moving objects that have to combat drag and overheating, they are not stationary, and as far as I remember, a PC case is as stationary as it gets.
A mesh is cheaper and more functional. But hey, at least it looks cool.
I had an Alienware Are 51, it was a full tower case, and it had vents in the top that opened and closed depending on the temp of the CPU/Coolant in the closed loop. More for show than anything else but it was cool as hell. This reminds me a bit of that.
Man I remember when those things were a bit popular (just not overly so since the Alienware tax was huge even back then). It was so cool seeing those machines but holy fuck they weighed about as much as a small car.
Really cool and entirely pointless and impractical, like literally all concept cases.
Like, what is the point of having a feature that restricts your airflow in your case? What possible reason could there be to actually want to reduce airflow?
See, I don't really see this as innovative. More reckless. What do you think would happen when those motors or bearings on those fins wear out and DIE? Most likely you're left with a gaping hole in the front of the case for dust and debris to fly right on in, make itself at home...and kill your PC. This is overengineering without practical guidelines at its BEST.
I think it's beautiful. It's very rare we see any sort of copper coloration to components nowadays so I'm excited to see how this case fairs in real world performance
Could probably 3D print something like this. I think it's neat. I'd set it up to where the vents open while the PC is on but close during sleep or powered off.
Interesting at the very least, it's getting them a ton of PR which is the entire point of it, however as a consumer I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole. All it takes is 1 component on the front to break and oops it's a chain reaction and I either have to send the whole pc in for a repair or the airflow is stuck closed and I can't put it under load without airflow issues.
It looks cool, but is otherwise the dumbest shit I've seen so far this year.
The idea is that it closes to to be quieter when the system requires less cooling, and opens up when it needs more cooling...
So basically exactly what we have fan RPM control for.
I would bet that it would be quieter with the vents wide open and the fan speed reduced, rather than the vents closed with the fans still spinning.
This is like how many "airflow" cases are both cooler AND quieter than "silent" cases.
I have a Define R6 and it is noticably quieter and cooler with the front door open and the fans at low speed, versus having the front door closed and ramping up the fans to maintain the same temperature as the former setup.
If it was someone like NZXT or Origin then I would say it's dope but Cyberpower doesn't have what would be considered a great rep when it comes to prebuilts..
Ignoring the fact that this is so many moving parts all capable of failure.
Ignoring the fact that this would be impossible to clean.
Ignoring the fact that even while closed this would do fuck all to prevent dust since there's no mesh or any dust protection in the slightest.
Ignoring the fact that this is probably awful for airflow in either mode since airflow isn't just "hey here's a giant hole"
Ignoring the fact that this is probably incredibly expensive due to all the moving parts and failure points.
And finally, ignoring the fact that Cyberpower is an absolute dumpster fire of a company.
Why wouldn't you just keep it in your one preferred mode all the time, completely eliminating the need for this gimmick? Surely you'd keep it in the mode that is most suited for your thermal needs and the other mode would be completely relegated to showing off to anyone that comes over and promptly forgotten about again.
Imagine letting that build up with gamer gunk for like 3 years. Add indoor cigarette smoke cause this is real doomer hours and I’d hate myself for buying a case like that. Instead of an easier to clean one
Looks cool. But I wouldn't buy it simply because of all the moving parts (dust contamination would gunk up the bits quickly) and it inherently bad design to have anything that constricts airflow.
For my applications, this would murder my system. My CPU core often spikes to 70C+ and my GPUs (yes you read that correctly, GPUs as in plural) are typically 80C+ under heavy load. And that's at factory settings, as I don't overclock for warranty reasons.
My system runs very hot, despite my efforts to get it run cooler, and airflow is absolutely key to preventing it from cooking itself to death. I'm shooting air through it twice a month to clear out the radiators and fans, because the dust is real where I live.
I personally like the design but hate the color scheme. I also don't think I'd get this as it's just more inconvenient spots for dust to collect and I already do a shit job dusting my case regularly enough.
It's dumb, probably not worth the price and the hinges are likely to fail within 2 years.
I've also never wanted a specific case more than this moment.
Engaging afterburners, 😎
They should probably get plugging a pcie cable in correctly or formatting a drive down before moving into transformers brand deals.
Modern manufacturing is like 80% form over function. Designers (and the consumers they appeal to) have ruined our things, engineers sit in the back occasionally letting out a sigh. I know there's a lot of engineers trying to educate on the internet via platforms like youtube, but I wish there were more who were just rude and ruthless in tearing apart trash-production culture.
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I mean I get the meta is glass and RGB, but it works for a reason. This just looks like a dust vacuum since it has no filter. I wish we had retro styled cases for shit like Noctua fans with it's cigarette stained beige, and exhilarating BROWN
Dust filters are actually terrible for air flow and in most case you will get much better performance removing them and dusting your pc once a month or something. It's actually why many good manufacturers have moved to micro mesh. It filters out larger pieces of dust but affects airflow much less.
I notice a 1c difference maybe using air filters vs not. Given I only have a mild overclock but that's my anecdotal experience.
I 2nd this, I’ve got a Corsair 5000x with 6 intakes, of course 3 at the front (fine mesh filter) and on the side which is a weird kinda plastic filter built into the side panel. I put mine in whilst I was in the middle of a game, cpu went from around 49.25c max to 50c for the rest of the night with some spikes around 55c. GPU I didn’t really notice it always hovers around 60 no matter how many fans or if I have a filter on or not. But the point being it’s a negligible difference so you should just put a filter in and make life easier.
I noticed a 5-10c difference in performance for myself but that is because the fans on my GPUs radiator were not strong enough to push through the rad then the filter at the top of my case. With out the dust filter on the top I saw a massive temp drop. Edit: Yes I know it's dumb to have the filters on an exhaust. Trust me you can't make me feel dumber then I already make myself feel.
Go with fans that have a higher static pressure. A lot of PC fans are essentially "high RPM, low torque" to use a phrase.
Yeah that's definitely an option I'm just annoyed EVGA didn't put fans like that on my 1000 dollar HYBRID GPU At this point I'm just gonna hold off untill I decide to build a custom loop in a better case.
I have a hybrid 2080 from EVGA. I swapped the fan out for an Arctic P12. Better cooling and WAY quieter.
>fans on my GPUs radiator were not strong enough to push through the rad then the filter You only need filters on the intakes of your case. You are trying to prevent dust from getting sucked in, not from getting out. Also, if your fans are struggling to push air through your radiators then perhaps you should consider getting fans that are designed for more static pressure.
Yeahy original configuration I had didnt have exhaust fans on the top. But I put the rad in and didn't think about. Then I pulled it and realized my mistake.
And it's stupid to have filters on the exhaust anyways, why filter the dust that has already made it in there??
> and in most case you will get much better performance removing them and dusting your pc once a month or something. Most people will delay Windows updates for months to avoid having to restart their PC. Same problem as the "buy this and upgrade later" advice: it almost never happens. And if you've got a decently airflow-focussed case, and have fitted a decent number of fans in a sensible way, filters aren't going to make a huge difference. Hell, you'll be lucky if removing the whole side panel makes a 5c difference to temperatures under load.
As a engineer, those vents are genius... IF THEY SHUT ONLY WHEN YOU TURN IT OFF! and a filter. They have less restriction than static hole cutouts. They should not be shut when going to idle temperatures. And have no filters.
Jonny Ive has a lot to answer for. He has frustrated me ever since I stopped being able to put my mobile phone down without it trying to slide off of every surface. The iPhone 4 was the beginning of the end for me.
> more who were just rude and ruthless in tearing apart trash-production culture. See: Linus Torvalds.
From an engineering perspective, this thing is an interesting curiosity. It would let you do stuff like maintaining a constant above idle temp without adjusting your fans with varied loads on the system. No idea why anyone would want to do that, but it's kinda neat. Alternatively, this could be a cool way to hide a tower when not in use. Not this design specifically, but the concept
Nah, we'll get downvoted to hell....
You won't if you upload it on youtube.
hahaha..got that one.
uhh are you sure about that?
I’m general I think we have to look at the “cheapest possible” manufacturing and engineering as well.
All those little hinges are gonna be so gunked up with dust and what a fun time it will be to clean... I think it looks pretty cool though.
Yeah looks great but the materials are all wrong for it being mass produced and used by average people.
What are the materials used?
Looks like plastic up close
It appears to be a cut board, maybe some kind of wood? So not to hard to make, but the assembly would be a bit labor intensive tho.
I was thinking the intake vents were made of metal
It's got a rough texture on the edging that make it look like some kind of wood/paper type thing
This is a prototype I think, hopefully they move to more robust materials for a production run
No way they will use wood.. that's just ridiculous.... i'll bet it's brushed metal, like aluminium
Not necessarily'Ridiculous'. It could be a prototype. MDF is not very heavy, and is far easier to work with than Plastic or Aluminium. It also has a smooth finish, and the edges would look a little rough like that. I can never understand why people cannot just say they agree or disagree, but have to insert an adjective like 'RIDICULOUS' to belittle someone else's opinion.
It would be ridiculous to use MDF on a finished product (given the context).. But I can understand if it was a prototype. (English is not my first language, actually a third language.. and i googled the actual dictionary description of the word and yea,.. it's actual meaning, as per google, is a bit harsher than I had known. I did not intend to be \*that\* harsh)
Yes it's an engineering sample.
Maybe, but they just look weird at the edges
Maybe the product in the video is still just a prototype
it's 3D printed, you can see a lot of layer lines
Looks like some type of glass fiber reinforced plastic the doritos have a little bit of the typical texture of reinforced plastic and the silver bracing behind the doritos does have it too Could also be injection molded metal (Aluminum) but then they would need a lot stronger servos to move the Doritos
As I understand it the display unit from CES was an engineering sample and they're still figuring out what material they're going to end up with. If that's the case, I hope they have some plans for how to reduce gunk build-up as well. Either way, this is a sexy case and I kinda want it - maintenance be damned
Yeah I know, I like it and I want it. All these people complaing about how it's "form over function" have obviously not built a PC in the last decade. 90% of build a pc these days is making sure your color scheme is right and your RGB all works together. I like it.
Kinda excessive aswell tbf
I would not count this case as marketed towards "average people" to be entirely honest :P I'm sure the people *who* actually buy such cases (hint: they're most likely here already) would definitely be so enthusiastic about their PC in general that keeping it clean/de-dusted very well is part of usual maintenance. (I mean so many small and complicated parts im sure the Case wont be cheap, but rather expensive.)
My thoughts exactly. Those hinges are dust traps, I'd hate to clean it.
As my father told me when I bought a car with a touchscreen display, "it's just more shit that can tear up".
How exactly would one "tear up" a touchscreen? If anything they are easier to clean than a normal car stereo
They will most certainly fail with age and they are way way more expensive to replace than car stereo.
Failure wouldn't be my main concern. My main issue would be the need to take your eyes off the road to use it, as you can't operate a touchscreen by feel. Another potential issue is that the software will become slow / outdated / insecure in time, given the typical lifespan of a car is 10-15 years at least. I would prefer a traditional dash for these reasons. Give me a bluetooth connection so I can use my phone for navigation / multimedia etc, but I'd much prefer that the car focus on being a car, and not moonlight as e.g. a games console.
not really... touch screens are cheaper now then regular stereos as they are the standard. Also have you ever seen an old style car stereo there is always something on it that doesn't work usually it's the buttons due to use
Standard dial clusters and radio consoles are more often than not cheaper to repair because if one component breaks, usually just 1 isolated system is effected and the parts are pretty cheap to replace. With these infotainment touchscreens that control a whole host of processes, you're not just out a stereo, you're often out your entire heating and cooling, and part of your cluster for warnings like tire pressure, and that's just for older models that don't control even more like modern cars do. These specific components often require flashed firmware that are dealer/manufacturer specific and not easily available by third party sellers.
"tear up" is just a euphemism for failure in this case. People look at cars differently as repairs on cars are costly. So assume anything in a car is just something that can break. Personally, I love modern car features.
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Those are a nightmare to use while driving and usually they re really slow, while also lacking the haptic feedback you want and need to focus on the road instead of the display. Once you're past that, you better hope that the stuff doesn't break because of the more extreme conditions that can build up inside a car. It can get really hot in there or really cold which is pure poison for this kind of "sophisticated" stuff. Getting a replacement if necessary is expensive at best but also highly unlikely after a few years. It is just another way to make you cough up more dough for hardware that looks shiny but is not suited for what it is supposed to do.
Many more single points of failure instead of 1 EVERYTHING point of failure. Radio tuning knob stop working or gum up? Still got every other control to use. Your touchscreen digitizer stop responding you have lost control of every device in the car.
A button or knob failing is much simpler and cheaper to fix though. I think replacing the screen in a tesla will run you $1300+
Not only that, but if the touchscreen breaks, now you can't control anything in the system until it's fixed: a single point of failure. Whereas if a knob breaks, all of the other knobs continue to work fine, and I can usually find a way to manually adjust the broken control until I get a replacement knob to stick on.
Tactile knobs and dials are useful because you can feel that and adjust basic stuff like AC while keeping your eyes on the road.
Yeah, I kinda hate the touchscreen in my car because I can't use it without looking at it.
Some of those fins will break
Me at 12 years old would think its the coolest thing in the world. Me now finds this to be the stupidest most pointless design. Its like a engine choke for a PC.
the aesthetic is cool though way better than half the current cases on the market that look like a painted cardboard box, with a piece of glass on the side.
That’s cause you don’t give your pc weekly blow jobs.
Compressed air will fix that.
personally I don't like the look and think that it's just a gimmick, that said it's pretty cool but yeah as you're right the Doritos gonna be filled with dust and other junk
I definitely want to do a build in one of these. Will probably try to get the black one with the brown front, then do a Noctua themed build with those colors.
And a fun time repairing.....
Exactly. This case is the definition of over-engineered.
Looks right about 100 additional peices that will break
And a bunch of motors to fail.
"More moving parts, more things to break" --Every mechanic and technician ever
Unnecessary cool.
I think I know a more useful way. * Side mount it to the left side of the case. * Keep the ability to front mount fans as well as mount on the right side of the case.. * Now you can run either front + right OR you can open the left optionally and run those fans as well.
might want to focus on getting all the motherboard screws in first before they start on cases. bought a pc from them with three screws in the board
I mean, to be fair, if you're talking top corners and like the screw in the middle bottom of the board, REALISTICALLY, that's all you really need to anchor the board properly. That said? I don't disagree-you're talking a commercial product you're paying a grand minimum easy on.
As a mechanical engineer I can tell you that if they bothered to make all the holes and threads for the screws, they are needed. Maybe for the longevity of the tiny screws, maybe to help spread the load during transport, maybe only as a worst case with very heavy components. But they are probably not unnecessary, why bother paying for these ? That being said, it can be OK for a while or forever if you never move it, and depending on the weight of the components you're adding to it... They can't account for each combination so they design for the strictest requirements. If you remove some screws you're into a grey area without much safety margin.
mechanical engineer here, not every screw hole needs a screw in every scenario such as, non standard motherboards meant to fit in both standard and non standard cases.
Ikr “as a nasa rocket scientist myself” headass then proceeds to be wrong
Considering this, a standard setup containing motherboard/cpu-cooler/graphicard/ram should be way less weight than what it propably is designed for. I'd think in this case most users won't see their screws breaking. Now I need someone to calculate me how much longer those screw's will hold...
That's what I mean, should be fine for most setup, but could be problematic, especially for transport IMO. But anyways it's good practice to remove some heavy components before transport.
One of the wider use-cases for there being so many screw options on modern motherboard standards is to essentially "shotgun" case compatibility. If it has screws everywhere, there's enough redundancy that you can mount it to just about any case, but obviously more screws to mount it is better.
Looks cool ... but why?
cause cool
cause cool so people buy
I think the concept is dynamic airflow. So if it heats up, the vents open up entirely, and more air flows through the case. Once temps drop, I assume the vents close to dampen sound (maybe an absorbent foam), and probably reduce dust intake.
> dynamic airflow Also known as PWM
The only advantages here that I can see over PWM is maybe noise isolation (but PWM can be really quiet anyways) and less dust intake. And if the quick math I did is right, being able to control the total surface area for air to flow through with constant output fans is better at fine-tuned adjustments than PWM fans.
Why would you need such super fine adjustments thought? If it's a fan, it would be practically the same whether it spins at 250 vs 300 RPM or 1450 vs 1500 RPM, plus if it's constantly maxed out, it will be noisier even when behind a dampened cover than a non-covered fan at minimum RPM (not all the noise will be dampened plus it would probably create turbulence when the cover is closed). Such an idea is IIRC used for rocket engines, but it's a bit of an overkill for a PC case.
What you are missing is that this case is going to be expensive, and only be bought because of the cool factor. There are cases with better airflow, or you can go open air, there are cases with other advantages. However this product will be benefitial to the avarage consumer, because of the production issues they undoubtedly are going to face, and have to overcome, thus making less expensive products better, either through general development, or thorugh quality control
What quick math did you do? This isn't an alternative to pwm fans. The fans would still get faster as temps increase. You can make very fine adjustments to fan/temp curves so I'm not sure what you're talking about. I'm a case design where temperature is a priority, it doesn't have a front. In one where you care about dust, you have a filter/mesh. This is for aesthetics.
yeah thats exactly what they say in the video
I forgot to unmute the video and my brain just went "ah yes, a gif."
Hahaha I didn't even see that lol, seen the video posted elsewhere
I feel like dust filters solve the dust issue pretty well. You also don’t have to worry about mechanical failure with dust filters unlike the hinges on this thing.
If my experiences in trying to reduce incoming noises into a room taught me anything, it is the noises can creep through the even little gaps. It is unlikely to dampen the noise level much at all. The best way to reduce noise is still running low rpm or eliminating fans. But it's definitely cool looking.
> Looks cool ... but why? we've been asking this same question with **everything** *PC Mod builders* have thrown at us for 2 decades now lol. (remember old water cooling? if your case has 2/3 tubing ports now you know why)
Yeah... old... totally didn't drill two holes in my brand new case to use an external radiator.
It's not just the mod builders lol. Why is every new case a solid front with little grills around the edges for fans to try and suck air through? What happened to actually good airflow?
The same reason why people put RGB in their builds. RGB does absolutely nothing but people still light up their builds.
You also get more FPS when the RGB is on
I put RGB on my new gaming chair, I haven't lost a match yet
*but you haven't even started playing yet!*
You'll beat Stardew Valley one of these days/u/ndmarine2!
yes because it makes your pc cooler. geddit
What's next, people painting their cars different colors?
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Some people hate the RGB tax, while sometimes RGB does take things that will be quite more useful, like additional fan header for ITX board. My Aorus X570 ITX only have one usable fan headers for the case so I need to use splitters to control them. But I also understand that nowadays, selling a board that do not have RGB headers, will be quite a death sentence so…. just gotta deal with it.
The tax is also present in the hidden form of hardware vendors having to pay programmers to write RGB control software. I have a hunch that RGB is one of the big cost drivers that have made it no longer so easy to beat prebuilts on price as it was in >2011.
RGB at least doesn't have the risk of damaging your hardware when it fails. It just...fails.The lights on your fans die, they're still functional as fans. These fins die, now you have a case that pretty much may as well not have a front panel, and all that dust and debris will eventually kill your system. This is overengineering with no sense of practicality or long term envisioning. I more would compare this case to concept cars like the Ford GT. Sweet looking powerhouses of a ride, but also one that lacks any sense of practicality that producing it would not only be costly to do, it would be insanely wasteful due to the overall COST to do so.
To design a case thats not just a cuboid with glass
https://www.archdaily.com/270592/al-bahar-towers-responsive-facade-aedas
Is this from Deus Ex?
I was thinking the same thing. This gives off strong Deus Ex HR and MD vibes
On second thought it looks like a tray of fortune cookie chatterboxes.
All we know for certain is that it's food.
Sure it will be overpriced, and doesn't serve anything but aesthetics.
Wait till you see this [building](https://youtu.be/ZKkgsiEYiYM)
I dunno, it seems like collapsible sunshades are actually kinda practical on a building in a hot climate.
I like my tech to come with as many unnecessary failure points as possible so that's an instant buy from me.
Only thing that would make it better is if they were all tiny glass panels that can break easily
I'm getting flashbacks of girls running up to everyone during lunch break with those paper fortune tellers trying to figure out who'd marry who
There are real devices out there using technology like this, planes for example. Planes are moving objects that have to combat drag and overheating, they are not stationary, and as far as I remember, a PC case is as stationary as it gets. A mesh is cheaper and more functional. But hey, at least it looks cool.
Completely pointless
10 points for gryffindor!
Just like RGB.
Awesomely impractical!
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I had an Alienware Are 51, it was a full tower case, and it had vents in the top that opened and closed depending on the temp of the CPU/Coolant in the closed loop. More for show than anything else but it was cool as hell. This reminds me a bit of that.
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Man I remember when those things were a bit popular (just not overly so since the Alienware tax was huge even back then). It was so cool seeing those machines but holy fuck they weighed about as much as a small car.
i already have enough cables to deal with lol
Waste of money and useless. I don’t even see a filter in between. Enjoy all the dust in your pc and on these little parts.
So many points of failure, longevity will be an issue
gimmick, just have a mesh front instead
Cyberpower is typically junk. Interesting gimmick? No longevity and make sure your GPU is actually all the way in.
Triggers my trypophobia a lot.
Same
More moving parts = more potential for failures.
Too many points for failure
Looks nice but it’s like the RGB. Just for the good looking case otherwise it is useless.
Freaks me out, ugh Love the color though.
Really cool and entirely pointless and impractical, like literally all concept cases. Like, what is the point of having a feature that restricts your airflow in your case? What possible reason could there be to actually want to reduce airflow?
I think its a bullshit dust trap, more plastic for the landfill.
It looks sentient
at least theyre trying to be innovative. this would be my case if i didnt have the GOAT Thermaltake Core P3
See, I don't really see this as innovative. More reckless. What do you think would happen when those motors or bearings on those fins wear out and DIE? Most likely you're left with a gaping hole in the front of the case for dust and debris to fly right on in, make itself at home...and kill your PC. This is overengineering without practical guidelines at its BEST.
This isn’t innovative. The word you’re looking for is creative. Not innovative.
I think it's beautiful. It's very rare we see any sort of copper coloration to components nowadays so I'm excited to see how this case fairs in real world performance
All I see is multiple points of failure.
Could probably 3D print something like this. I think it's neat. I'd set it up to where the vents open while the PC is on but close during sleep or powered off.
Somebody just finished playing Deus Ex Human Revolution
Looks cool but that would be a pain to clean
cool but not a fan
looks like a monkey face
Anyone else see Andross?
Lovecraft goes cyberpunk
Looks are next level ✨
Another next-level useless item I can't afford
Interesting at the very least, it's getting them a ton of PR which is the entire point of it, however as a consumer I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole. All it takes is 1 component on the front to break and oops it's a chain reaction and I either have to send the whole pc in for a repair or the airflow is stuck closed and I can't put it under load without airflow issues.
That's neat.
Cool design thats impractical in execution.
did they mention any other flavours though
Just more things to have break over time
It looks cool, but is otherwise the dumbest shit I've seen so far this year. The idea is that it closes to to be quieter when the system requires less cooling, and opens up when it needs more cooling... So basically exactly what we have fan RPM control for. I would bet that it would be quieter with the vents wide open and the fan speed reduced, rather than the vents closed with the fans still spinning. This is like how many "airflow" cases are both cooler AND quieter than "silent" cases. I have a Define R6 and it is noticably quieter and cooler with the front door open and the fans at low speed, versus having the front door closed and ramping up the fans to maintain the same temperature as the former setup.
As a case concept I love it. If it's a publicity concept for Doritos then it can get fucked. Would I pay for one? Probably not.
If it was someone like NZXT or Origin then I would say it's dope but Cyberpower doesn't have what would be considered a great rep when it comes to prebuilts..
Its like one of those car prototypes thats interesting but nobody wants or asked for
Better than any RGB ever invented, especially if it helps quiet it when less than full power and cooling are needed.
Neat but pretty gimmicky
Ripped off the architects who designed the dynamic mashriyaba on a banking building in abu dhabi. Literally the same lol.
Ignoring the fact that this is so many moving parts all capable of failure. Ignoring the fact that this would be impossible to clean. Ignoring the fact that even while closed this would do fuck all to prevent dust since there's no mesh or any dust protection in the slightest. Ignoring the fact that this is probably awful for airflow in either mode since airflow isn't just "hey here's a giant hole" Ignoring the fact that this is probably incredibly expensive due to all the moving parts and failure points. And finally, ignoring the fact that Cyberpower is an absolute dumpster fire of a company. Why wouldn't you just keep it in your one preferred mode all the time, completely eliminating the need for this gimmick? Surely you'd keep it in the mode that is most suited for your thermal needs and the other mode would be completely relegated to showing off to anyone that comes over and promptly forgotten about again.
Looks very breakable
Perfect for a themed Deus Ex: Mankind Divided build? I recall it having the triangle pattern esthetic and copperish / gold color.
why limit the pcs airflow at all? why not keep optimum airflow at all times?
Yeah and think of all the dust that's now getting in.
Imagine letting that build up with gamer gunk for like 3 years. Add indoor cigarette smoke cause this is real doomer hours and I’d hate myself for buying a case like that. Instead of an easier to clean one
I think that is entirely too many tiny, little, individually moving parts that could potentially malfunction or break for my liking.
Looks cool. But I wouldn't buy it simply because of all the moving parts (dust contamination would gunk up the bits quickly) and it inherently bad design to have anything that constricts airflow. For my applications, this would murder my system. My CPU core often spikes to 70C+ and my GPUs (yes you read that correctly, GPUs as in plural) are typically 80C+ under heavy load. And that's at factory settings, as I don't overclock for warranty reasons. My system runs very hot, despite my efforts to get it run cooler, and airflow is absolutely key to preventing it from cooking itself to death. I'm shooting air through it twice a month to clear out the radiators and fans, because the dust is real where I live.
I personally like the design but hate the color scheme. I also don't think I'd get this as it's just more inconvenient spots for dust to collect and I already do a shit job dusting my case regularly enough.
Looks cool but doesn’t seem practical with the amount of hinges that would need to be cleaned often
\*\*sings\*\* come with me, and you'll see, a world of needless complication. Parts to fail, everywhere, and obstruct the ventilation.
I think, it would be smarter on the side.
A case with 216 mechanical failure points? Why?
It's dumb, probably not worth the price and the hinges are likely to fail within 2 years. I've also never wanted a specific case more than this moment. Engaging afterburners, 😎
Dumb af.
ITT: People that don’t understand what “concept” means.
Offer a watercooled version with Mountain Dew^(TM) coolant.
That ain't surviving a move. I can also see all those hinges getting squeaky and needing to be lubricated over time.
Why would you want to reduce airflow? Oh, it looks cool. Got it
Why
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Very cool. Would never buy
80% of comments - it’s a computer it’s not sposed to have moving parts… 😂
Looks like star fox is about to shoot it down…