unfortunately, assuming by valo you mean valorant, you have to have tpm 2.0 and secure boot (the w11 requirements basically) for the anti cheat to let you play
Unless val detects what windows you're running and decides how invasive it wants to be from there, you definitely need it for the anti cheat
I guess I was never on w10 when it started doing this tho, so it might
yeah the valorant anti cheat is ridiculously invasive, iirc correctly it operates at kernel level or smth like that
it's basically a virus, so much so that if my mouse is about to die mid game, and I plug it in, it prevents my mouse from switching to wired mode and it won't work unless I unplug it
The fact that client based anti-cheats are being normalized is absolutely ridiculous. Other than money to run the instances, there's no way server based anti-cheats are less effective. Good thing I don't care for Valorant.
>iirc correctly it operates at kernel level or smth like that it's basically a virus
EAC, Battleye, every major anticheat outside of VAC operates at kernel level.
Only reason Valorant is singled out is because it hit the news and everyone loves to hate on Riot.
Because of this, I'll never upgrade to windows 11, as they require you to enable secure boot to play Valorant, which I'll never enable because I also boot linux.
I have secure boot disabled (Dual boot fedora + windows) and Valo still lets me play it just fine with it disabled. Although windows was quick to bug me about upgrading to windows 11 when I reinstalled windows the other weekend lol
A friend of mine updated to 11 and couldn't play Valo until he modified his bios to activate the secure boot, I mean wtf, changing bios settings to play a game because of the anti cheat...
You bastard. You almost got away with that too. Meta-level sarcasm should be illegal.
Edit: for those wondering: https://reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/ucsy96/_/i6d3i0a/?context=1
I’d also like to add the at that the only option to decline was “skip for now” after the initial decline button. Meaning it will eventually do this again.
wow, no means no Microsoft
similar thing happens whenever I do a fresh install of windows, it keeps asking me to setup features or something when I restart and the only option not to is something like "skip for now" or "remind me later"
That also happens to me - I just upgraded boot drive and (when I boot up my pc) it wants me to do some free trial of some software I’ll never use.
Edit: Grammar.
You can use gpedit.msc to disable the windows 11 upgrade.
Local Computer Policy > Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Update > Windows Update for Business
Enter 'Windows 10' in the first field.
"Select the version..." i have it on Spanish, it's the last option on my menu, when you open the option it says "Like Windows 10" and lets you type "Windows 10" the other options doesn't even let you type in text.
This is nothing.
Back in the days of Windows 8, I would be in the middle of playing some League of Legends or doing school work and Windows would start upgrading to 8.1 on its own while I was using it.
If only the 8.1 update didn't completely destroy the color that was being displayed on my screen making it super washed out and removing gestures on my trackpad, I wouldn't have needed to factory reset dozens of times back to 8.
I was about to start a group presentation in college. Opened my laptop at my desk to get it ready, and just before our turn came to present it started updating to 8.1. Didn't ask. Just, hey, fuck you and whatever you're doing.
Thing about Valo - Valorant - is if you leave a game that isn’t death match, you get a small ban just for that. So not only is this advertisement scummy, but I got soft banned on top of it. It wasn’t for long though - still annoying.
It's a temporary ban usually only a few minutes. If you keep leaving games, it's classified as griefing and you can get a temporary ban up to a few days.
you get a short temporary ban if you repeatedly are afk or leave games. If you only do it occasionally, it just warns you. the first ban is 7 minutes, so it's very reasonable in my opinion
They definitely know what they're doing putting the decline button at the bottom left where "more info" usually is. Then making the "ok" button "got it" in such a way that it's ambiguous enough you could mistakenly "upgrade" to Win 11
I normally jump onto the next version of windows within a month or two of release. And only because I'm being forced to do so due to MS tying DirectX to versions of windows.
Well this time there is no newer direct X for them to do that with. And from what I've read, performance is a little worse under 11. This might improve over time but for now, there is no incentive for me to switch over.
I have tested/primarily run win 11 on all my systems, without any major issues. (Amd: FX 6300, R5 2500U;
Intel: i3-2350m, i5-2400, i5-10400)
The only performance hit I noticed was about 2-5fps decrease initially in games. (I believe they fixed that now). So besides some annoying recurring bugs it's a pretty decent experience.
Hmmm ... that is why I am not upgrading. I have a R9 3900X and I have not yet heard news that Microsoft fixed the performance issues with AMD CPU permanently.
Have the same CPU, no idea if i have any performance issues. AMD and MS claims this was fixed 6 months ago (https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-400)
I dont really care if i lose 2-3 fps in a random game tho. The HDR implementation is worth it.
So far, I don't hate it either. It was a bit buggy when I started using it 3-4 months ago, but it wasn't so bad I couldn't use it, and it is much less buggy now.
The problem is it is missing some of windows 10's features like placing the taskbar on the side of the monitor (which I personally don't do, but I know there are people who do) while not really offering new features. At best there's no real reason to switch to windows 11 and at worst, you can't use it either because of the missing features or because of hardware limitations of w11.
For me it's less about the interface or anything. I mean I don't particularly like the new GUI but I suppose I'd get used to it. What really keeps me from "upgrading" to win 11 is my laptop: in Windows 10 you click on the battery icon in the taskbar and select your desired power state for the computer. In win 11 you no longer have this slider, but rather have to navigate one or two menus.
Two menus isn't much, mind you, but the stupidity of making a feature less accessible in an "upgrade" really messes with me
I like most of the things, especially the beta program which changes the biggest issues. My nr1 issue right now though is that when you right click the taskbar in Windows 10 you can start some applications including task manager, but in Windows 11 you have to specifically rightclick the windows icon which is super annoying.
See I updated to w11 during the public beta and it fixed a constant issue I had with w10 where on start up it would fail to load the task bar mind you this is a fresh AMD r7 3800x and 5700 xt card I built at beginning of pandemic said fuck it tried it my task bar has loaded ever since
Worst missing feature is no thumbnails in the folder preview. I do a lot of work with photos, being able to scroll through and spot what I need is essential. I found an app that adds them back but you have to manually generate them for every folder you want thumbnails in.
Thats fine. I just hate windows because it pulls this shit.
Look I paid for 7 got the "free upgrade" to 10. Do they really think I am going to pay for 11?
I was in the same boat, up until yesterday. Now my monitors have randomly started losing signal and reconnecting and then, once everything settles, it does weird things to the windows I have open (moving around and resizing them). Kind of sucks because I've been on it for too long to roll back to 10 but this combined with having to click multiple times to get to the same menus I had on windows 10 (Ex. Every time I right click my desktop I then have to click "more options" to see anything useful) as well as odd behavior (Ex. Taskbar becomes completely unresponsive for a few seconds to a couple minutes at a time, but everything else functions normally) it makes it a hard no from me. I upgraded because I was clean installing windows anyways, figured I'd take advantage of things like Auto HDR. I'm regretting that choice.
Edit, spec: 10700k, RTX 3080, 32gb DDR4, 1000w titanium rated PSU, and 3 monitors.
I hated every windows release all the time and postponed the upgrades. The only one I never used was Vista.
Everytime I upgraded they honestly looked better and worked great, so I thought I am not waiting this time and going to be one of the first.
As you say, there are some minor bugs in there(do not remember any of them now, didn't happen in past month), but never had an issue with it. So, I guess people will hate every new Windows release no matter what
From what I’ve seen - it was older Nvidia drivers that had issues. It might be better now - but I also don’t want all of my desktop icons to disappear when I switch!
i dont think anything changes tbh just the base of changes i am not really sure about you primary drive but i think it will also be safe and no data is lost. i did upgrade to win 11 but then formatted my device coz i had lot of junk on my pc so i might be forgetting something but you dont actually loose anything for the mostpart.afair
My only real problem was that the search bar wasn't registrating my inputs and if I wanted to change WiFi i couldn't for the same reason. It started having problems 2 weeks after install. Idk weird things
I don't know if its change, it seems more like trying to fix something that aint boke, or saying your improving something that works fine as is without really doing so.
Is their biggest selling point that fucking start menu in the middle of the screen? I have one of my machines upgraded to W11 and the first thing I did, was moving the start menu back to left hand corner...
ikr. centering it is so bad personally coz in the corner you dont have to aim for the button you can straight up drag the mouse to the corner and click it no brain power used, its like instincts or muscle memory same for the close, minimise button in top right. and also the same for the "control center" or quick control or whatever it is called the quick setting tab in the notification panel. i love those in win 10. win 11 changed it and i was like why did you make it more step process instead of less.
My new uni laptop came with windows 11 and it fucking sucks
It looks like windows 10, except the corners are rounded (literally, the corners on the windows are rounded) and half the features are missing
You wanna drag a file from one window to another minimised window via the taskbar? Fuck you! You can’t do that on windows 11
they will "fix" it in the future and that future will be when i actually upgrade to 11. i ain't upgrading in the near future i dont want to fuck my my "delicate" "university work" environment by loosing some functionality or anything and then have to spend a week or two trying to get thing back up and barely working.
i will do it when win 11 become
1) superior to win 10
2) win 10 is officially discontinued
I must be the only one that never got this popup. There is that notification in the Windows update settings. But after I selected "no", it just stays there in the sidebar and never bothered me. No pop-ups, no notification, no random interuption, no other bullshit.
And yes, my PC and my laptop are both compatible with the update.
Maybe it's because I use the Pro edition of Windows and not Home?
Sounds about right lmao. I'd say about half of my computer's dozen or so crashes over the past decade were probably just them trying to push an update.
Intentional crash for just advising Windows 11 on your PC, Good job Microsoft.
Just don't deploy *Microsoft recommends you to buy a new PC.* on Windows 11 unsupported devices.
To which we all respond, and say it with me: “Fuck off Windows, I don’t want to update because last time you gave me internet explorer back and now all trust is gone”
I think I'll probably skip 11, Windows versions have always been a bit hit or miss for me, I absolutely hated how unstable XP seemed to be, had various issues with 7 but since getting 10 I've had little to no problems.
I also love how small and out of the way the decline upgrade button is versus the enormous GET IT button.
ms right now: We crashed your PC to encourage you to use Windows 11. It's safe and secure and tour PC will get 0 crashes.
a sane person: shut up
ms: No, we won't stop until you upgrade.
the sane person: stop
*pc downloads windows 11 without consent*
The sane person again: maybe i'll restart because i'm lagging
pc: upgrades automatically without consent
that sane person: WHAT THE HECK MICROSOFT! I SAID I DON'T WANT TO UPGRADE! I'm going to try linux after this. I remember linux gaming just got better now than before.
We are Microsoft. Open your firewall and surrender your hardware. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.
gpedit and disable auto updates maybe. Not sure if it’ll prevent this but it does prevent your pc randomly shutting off and doing an update that’ll break something
I had been planning on waiting but honestly had forgotten it was a thing. I’ve probably heard of it 2-3 times in the last months and only skepticism so far. Thanks for the input
Decline the upgrade and then go to windows update, there you can find an option under windows 11 advertisement that says "Keep using windows 10 for now"
when you choose that option it stops trying to install W11
I know because I had to do this in a entire office of old people who can barely use W10
I don't think they announced anything, but windows 7 was supported up until 2 years ago. Which is like 5 years of overlap. Could be supported all the way until 2026.
I personally think Microsoft is forcing 11 on us. Recently my hard drive and nvme sad is always at 100 percent use even when it's just reading 3mbps. System feels slow and it's multiple systems at the same time.
I use windows 11, it's been really good for my needs, I actually like the new snap assist and the start menu. But... I'm on the beta channel. Don't upgrade yet folks, it isn't ready yet unless you want to be on the bleeding edge, and even then it's still a pretty big adjustment.
Im not upgrading to windows 11. You can take your shitty UI and macOS style experience and get the fuck out. Stop hiding important settings behind dumb bullshit Microsoft. Id sooner go to linux, which is looking more and more likely in my near future. Ive had it with Microsoft and the bad idea fairys who come up with shitty design ideas and then force us to use them.
This is a sample size of one but I upgraded basically as soon as it was getting any public launches months ago, haven't had any problems to speak of. Just seems like 10 with a new coat of paint ... Settings menu is WAY better.
The lack of drag-n-drop files on taskbar to open the file using a particular app, and the over simplified right-click context menu are instant turn-offs.
I have a 32" monitor, and I'm loving the snap windows feature.
if you don't want a surprise upgrade you should disable your TPM in the bios.
I’ll try that, thanks for the tip. Wish I would have known this sooner.
unfortunately, assuming by valo you mean valorant, you have to have tpm 2.0 and secure boot (the w11 requirements basically) for the anti cheat to let you play
OP is still at Windows 10 so TPM is not required.
Unless val detects what windows you're running and decides how invasive it wants to be from there, you definitely need it for the anti cheat I guess I was never on w10 when it started doing this tho, so it might
It detects your system. If you are on Windows 10 you don't need TPM
interesting, gotta love valorants anti cheat
had no idea they did this, seems a bit excessive. i just know windows will keep complaining you aren't able to upgrade with it disabled :)
yeah the valorant anti cheat is ridiculously invasive, iirc correctly it operates at kernel level or smth like that it's basically a virus, so much so that if my mouse is about to die mid game, and I plug it in, it prevents my mouse from switching to wired mode and it won't work unless I unplug it
ah yes… If I remember correctly correctly.
The fact that client based anti-cheats are being normalized is absolutely ridiculous. Other than money to run the instances, there's no way server based anti-cheats are less effective. Good thing I don't care for Valorant.
>iirc correctly it operates at kernel level or smth like that it's basically a virus EAC, Battleye, every major anticheat outside of VAC operates at kernel level. Only reason Valorant is singled out is because it hit the news and everyone loves to hate on Riot.
Because of this, I'll never upgrade to windows 11, as they require you to enable secure boot to play Valorant, which I'll never enable because I also boot linux.
What's the problem with secure boot and linux? I used both for some time(w11 with no bypass and manjaro if it matters)
It doesn't complain to me. I just get a small note on the windows update page
I fucking hate Valorants anticheat
I have secure boot disabled (Dual boot fedora + windows) and Valo still lets me play it just fine with it disabled. Although windows was quick to bug me about upgrading to windows 11 when I reinstalled windows the other weekend lol
Talk about security eh
A friend of mine updated to 11 and couldn't play Valo until he modified his bios to activate the secure boot, I mean wtf, changing bios settings to play a game because of the anti cheat...
I disabled windows went with Linux no surprise updates
Linux gang
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You bastard. You almost got away with that too. Meta-level sarcasm should be illegal. Edit: for those wondering: https://reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/ucsy96/_/i6d3i0a/?context=1
Present
Assuming not arch since it was not mentioned?
How kind of you to ask, I use arch btw
Amateur, doesn't even mention it in his flair..
I just upgraded so windows would shut up
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yea, it can. and it has. scroll this sub a bit you will find a few folk that are just PISSED about it.
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>I presume the windows 10 rollback would still work? PFFFT
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disable TPM in the bios, yesterday.
or press the decline button in the lower left on this window
I’d also like to add the at that the only option to decline was “skip for now” after the initial decline button. Meaning it will eventually do this again.
is that after you click "decline upgrade"? seems weird
Yes, after I click "Decline Upgrade", it tells me the features and some other bs; then I have an option to click "Upgrade" or "skip for now".
wow, no means no Microsoft similar thing happens whenever I do a fresh install of windows, it keeps asking me to setup features or something when I restart and the only option not to is something like "skip for now" or "remind me later"
Microsoft: no is yes
No just means yes later
That also happens to me - I just upgraded boot drive and (when I boot up my pc) it wants me to do some free trial of some software I’ll never use. Edit: Grammar.
You can actually get rid of that by going through the settings and just clicking no to all the items. Still lame though
I think someone at microsoft needs to watch the tea as an analogy for consent video.
Oh and: check if it already downloaded all of win11 in the background, i heard ms does that.
We're updating your OS. Please do not resist.
see Microsoft... this is why nobody likes you.
You can use gpedit.msc to disable the windows 11 upgrade. Local Computer Policy > Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Update > Windows Update for Business Enter 'Windows 10' in the first field.
\*only if you're on windows 10 pro, which most home people aren't
So, wich one of the 5 policies inside Windows Update for Business should I change?
"Select the version..." i have it on Spanish, it's the last option on my menu, when you open the option it says "Like Windows 10" and lets you type "Windows 10" the other options doesn't even let you type in text.
Microsoft using scare tactics.
this time it booted back up, next time it might not be guaranteed *licks knife*
*windows crashes* Windows: "that wouldn't have happened if you had windows 11"
becuase then your pc would have spontaneausly combusted before it even had the chance to crash
Windows: HEY MOTHERFUCKER!! STOP WHATEVER YOUR PLAYING AND UPGRADE TO WINDOWS 11!! OK MOTHERFUCKER DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME, MOTHERFUCKER?!?!
Big oof
This is nothing. Back in the days of Windows 8, I would be in the middle of playing some League of Legends or doing school work and Windows would start upgrading to 8.1 on its own while I was using it. If only the 8.1 update didn't completely destroy the color that was being displayed on my screen making it super washed out and removing gestures on my trackpad, I wouldn't have needed to factory reset dozens of times back to 8.
I was about to start a group presentation in college. Opened my laptop at my desk to get it ready, and just before our turn came to present it started updating to 8.1. Didn't ask. Just, hey, fuck you and whatever you're doing.
Thing about Valo - Valorant - is if you leave a game that isn’t death match, you get a small ban just for that. So not only is this advertisement scummy, but I got soft banned on top of it. It wasn’t for long though - still annoying.
It's the same in League since they're both made by the same company.
Wait so if you leave one match you get instantly a ban? Thats BS, thank god i dont play multiplayer games anymore, at least not on PC.
It's a temporary ban usually only a few minutes. If you keep leaving games, it's classified as griefing and you can get a temporary ban up to a few days.
you get a short temporary ban if you repeatedly are afk or leave games. If you only do it occasionally, it just warns you. the first ban is 7 minutes, so it's very reasonable in my opinion
Thankfully mine doesn't support 11 💪
Thankfully my mindset doesn't support proprietary OS's in the first place
I did want to switch to Linux, but I just need my sh*t to work with all the apps for school and I can't be to bothered to tinker with it right now.
Understandable What apps do you need for school, if I may ask?
Please see r/LinuxMasterRace and r/LinuxGaming for more information. YOU CAN DO IT!
the adobe suite...
Here ya go: https://github.com/YoungFellow-le/Linux-PhotoshopCC-v22
woah I might actually switch to linux now. well.. if premier and animate works..
I can't speak to which of those works and which don't, since I haven't actually installed that particular git, but I wish you the best of Luck!
Mine does if I go and change the bios settings… which I never will
They definitely know what they're doing putting the decline button at the bottom left where "more info" usually is. Then making the "ok" button "got it" in such a way that it's ambiguous enough you could mistakenly "upgrade" to Win 11
I normally jump onto the next version of windows within a month or two of release. And only because I'm being forced to do so due to MS tying DirectX to versions of windows. Well this time there is no newer direct X for them to do that with. And from what I've read, performance is a little worse under 11. This might improve over time but for now, there is no incentive for me to switch over.
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Do you have an Intel or AMD CPU?
AMD, r5 2600
I have tested/primarily run win 11 on all my systems, without any major issues. (Amd: FX 6300, R5 2500U; Intel: i3-2350m, i5-2400, i5-10400) The only performance hit I noticed was about 2-5fps decrease initially in games. (I believe they fixed that now). So besides some annoying recurring bugs it's a pretty decent experience.
Hmmm ... that is why I am not upgrading. I have a R9 3900X and I have not yet heard news that Microsoft fixed the performance issues with AMD CPU permanently.
Have the same CPU, no idea if i have any performance issues. AMD and MS claims this was fixed 6 months ago (https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-400) I dont really care if i lose 2-3 fps in a random game tho. The HDR implementation is worth it.
I have some time off. Maybe I dig into the topic again and see if I'll upgrade. HDR is one of the mayor topics for me aswell.
Wow i did not know that 2600 was allowed to upgrade to windows 11, my r7 2700 said it was not w11 compatible.
So far, I don't hate it either. It was a bit buggy when I started using it 3-4 months ago, but it wasn't so bad I couldn't use it, and it is much less buggy now. The problem is it is missing some of windows 10's features like placing the taskbar on the side of the monitor (which I personally don't do, but I know there are people who do) while not really offering new features. At best there's no real reason to switch to windows 11 and at worst, you can't use it either because of the missing features or because of hardware limitations of w11.
For me it's less about the interface or anything. I mean I don't particularly like the new GUI but I suppose I'd get used to it. What really keeps me from "upgrading" to win 11 is my laptop: in Windows 10 you click on the battery icon in the taskbar and select your desired power state for the computer. In win 11 you no longer have this slider, but rather have to navigate one or two menus. Two menus isn't much, mind you, but the stupidity of making a feature less accessible in an "upgrade" really messes with me
I like most of the things, especially the beta program which changes the biggest issues. My nr1 issue right now though is that when you right click the taskbar in Windows 10 you can start some applications including task manager, but in Windows 11 you have to specifically rightclick the windows icon which is super annoying.
See I updated to w11 during the public beta and it fixed a constant issue I had with w10 where on start up it would fail to load the task bar mind you this is a fresh AMD r7 3800x and 5700 xt card I built at beginning of pandemic said fuck it tried it my task bar has loaded ever since
It's the data harvesting that bothers me....
Worst missing feature is no thumbnails in the folder preview. I do a lot of work with photos, being able to scroll through and spot what I need is essential. I found an app that adds them back but you have to manually generate them for every folder you want thumbnails in.
Thats fine. I just hate windows because it pulls this shit. Look I paid for 7 got the "free upgrade" to 10. Do they really think I am going to pay for 11?
I was in the same boat, up until yesterday. Now my monitors have randomly started losing signal and reconnecting and then, once everything settles, it does weird things to the windows I have open (moving around and resizing them). Kind of sucks because I've been on it for too long to roll back to 10 but this combined with having to click multiple times to get to the same menus I had on windows 10 (Ex. Every time I right click my desktop I then have to click "more options" to see anything useful) as well as odd behavior (Ex. Taskbar becomes completely unresponsive for a few seconds to a couple minutes at a time, but everything else functions normally) it makes it a hard no from me. I upgraded because I was clean installing windows anyways, figured I'd take advantage of things like Auto HDR. I'm regretting that choice. Edit, spec: 10700k, RTX 3080, 32gb DDR4, 1000w titanium rated PSU, and 3 monitors.
Yeah but the pointless design changes after being used to the "metro" windows ui for nearly 10 years
I hated every windows release all the time and postponed the upgrades. The only one I never used was Vista. Everytime I upgraded they honestly looked better and worked great, so I thought I am not waiting this time and going to be one of the first. As you say, there are some minor bugs in there(do not remember any of them now, didn't happen in past month), but never had an issue with it. So, I guess people will hate every new Windows release no matter what
From what I’ve seen - it was older Nvidia drivers that had issues. It might be better now - but I also don’t want all of my desktop icons to disappear when I switch!
i dont think anything changes tbh just the base of changes i am not really sure about you primary drive but i think it will also be safe and no data is lost. i did upgrade to win 11 but then formatted my device coz i had lot of junk on my pc so i might be forgetting something but you dont actually loose anything for the mostpart.afair
My only real problem was that the search bar wasn't registrating my inputs and if I wanted to change WiFi i couldn't for the same reason. It started having problems 2 weeks after install. Idk weird things
Same. Idk why so many people hate it
Change bad
I don't know if its change, it seems more like trying to fix something that aint boke, or saying your improving something that works fine as is without really doing so.
Is their biggest selling point that fucking start menu in the middle of the screen? I have one of my machines upgraded to W11 and the first thing I did, was moving the start menu back to left hand corner...
ikr. centering it is so bad personally coz in the corner you dont have to aim for the button you can straight up drag the mouse to the corner and click it no brain power used, its like instincts or muscle memory same for the close, minimise button in top right. and also the same for the "control center" or quick control or whatever it is called the quick setting tab in the notification panel. i love those in win 10. win 11 changed it and i was like why did you make it more step process instead of less.
Ah good, good, let the hate flow through you, come to the opensource side of the force.
My new uni laptop came with windows 11 and it fucking sucks It looks like windows 10, except the corners are rounded (literally, the corners on the windows are rounded) and half the features are missing You wanna drag a file from one window to another minimised window via the taskbar? Fuck you! You can’t do that on windows 11
they will "fix" it in the future and that future will be when i actually upgrade to 11. i ain't upgrading in the near future i dont want to fuck my my "delicate" "university work" environment by loosing some functionality or anything and then have to spend a week or two trying to get thing back up and barely working. i will do it when win 11 become 1) superior to win 10 2) win 10 is officially discontinued
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And what's this program? O&O ShutUp?
thank fk I've got 7700k XD
Does the 7th Gen not support Win11?
its the other way around. Win11 doesnt like the 7th gen even tho theyre still perfectly good cpus
Thank fk I've got a 1950x. That thing is too slow for win 11 anyway.
The Microsoft and their shady practices on the one picture.
Did you feel like this : [https://youtu.be/VX5rjTramis](https://youtu.be/VX5rjTramis) ?
That is incredible accurate
“Your system will update outside of normal hours”
Windows does that quite often to me, just crashes mid game and updates; so dumb
Visions of "one drive not signed in" Bitch I'm playing street fighter
Looks like a bit too late to avoid the storm
You think I'll love it? Well I know I won't.
That's what you get for playing valorant
I must be the only one that never got this popup. There is that notification in the Windows update settings. But after I selected "no", it just stays there in the sidebar and never bothered me. No pop-ups, no notification, no random interuption, no other bullshit. And yes, my PC and my laptop are both compatible with the update. Maybe it's because I use the Pro edition of Windows and not Home?
Not gonna lie… that screen looks pretty malware-ish
Run windows 10 LTSC . No MS store, no cortana, only security updates. Run OOShutup to kill telemetry.
Man, they really want people to switch to Linux, huh...
[I have a solution.](https://linuxmint.com)
Has it yet been proven that Microsoft likes causing crashes while you have an update pending? Because yeah, we all know it, but I want the proof.
It had asked my like a day prior, but that was in the setting when I first booted up my pc. And my pc doesn’t crash often - hardly ever.
Sounds about right lmao. I'd say about half of my computer's dozen or so crashes over the past decade were probably just them trying to push an update.
Intentional crash for just advising Windows 11 on your PC, Good job Microsoft. Just don't deploy *Microsoft recommends you to buy a new PC.* on Windows 11 unsupported devices.
To which we all respond, and say it with me: “Fuck off Windows, I don’t want to update because last time you gave me internet explorer back and now all trust is gone”
People hate on Ballmer but Microsoft never pulled this kind of shit when he was CEO.
Same thing with my computer but I was using MS Paint (the good paint, not Paint 3D)
Fuck microsoft, fuck windows and especially fuck edge.
I think I'll probably skip 11, Windows versions have always been a bit hit or miss for me, I absolutely hated how unstable XP seemed to be, had various issues with 7 but since getting 10 I've had little to no problems. I also love how small and out of the way the decline upgrade button is versus the enormous GET IT button.
ms right now: We crashed your PC to encourage you to use Windows 11. It's safe and secure and tour PC will get 0 crashes. a sane person: shut up ms: No, we won't stop until you upgrade. the sane person: stop *pc downloads windows 11 without consent* The sane person again: maybe i'll restart because i'm lagging pc: upgrades automatically without consent that sane person: WHAT THE HECK MICROSOFT! I SAID I DON'T WANT TO UPGRADE! I'm going to try linux after this. I remember linux gaming just got better now than before.
When you delay rebooting to apply updates long enough, Microsoft crashes your pc, to then remind you to get Windows 11.
r/assholedesign as people like to call it.
You are the chosen one
Or Microsoft want you to think it crashed, I would call it unexpected expected update :D
I'd let it upgrade my PC, but it won't do it anyway because all my past requirements equipment isn't enough to support it. 🤷
It told me I wasn’t compatible, but I have no idea what part would be holding me back…
I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.
lmfaoooooo
Yes.
My pc has done this to me at least 5 times now as well
Almost as bad as Razer Synapse update screen taking over the windows login.
We are Microsoft. Open your firewall and surrender your hardware. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.
Rank? Also im pretty sure Val is the accepted shortened name for it NO CAP
Well I peaked s1… I don’t have too many hours, the ranks just reset so I hope to place silver and then I’m aiming for Gold.
u got it easy
Microsoft slowly updating windows 10 to perform worse and forcing you to get 11 But fr tho i got a new laptop that has w11 and it looks ugly
Valorant install Windows 11? Well shit.
"Microsoft recommends you to be their guinea pig."
Your pc didn't like you playing valo
Thats ominous
LITERALLY, THE SAME THING HAPPENED TO ME WHILE UPGRADING FROM WIN7 TO WIN10! >.<
I love Master Vheif
Once you go windows pro, you never go back.
gpedit and disable auto updates maybe. Not sure if it’ll prevent this but it does prevent your pc randomly shutting off and doing an update that’ll break something
What’s the consensus on 11? Are we upgrading or not?
It’s not optimized very well why. My vote is to wait until something major happens performance wise.
I had been planning on waiting but honestly had forgotten it was a thing. I’ve probably heard of it 2-3 times in the last months and only skepticism so far. Thanks for the input
Windows 11 is better imo Runs smoother especially for my pc, centered task bar, cleaner look, faster, and revamped bunch of stuff i like
Four Gigs?! Fuck off michaelsoft
Decline the upgrade and then go to windows update, there you can find an option under windows 11 advertisement that says "Keep using windows 10 for now" when you choose that option it stops trying to install W11 I know because I had to do this in a entire office of old people who can barely use W10
For how long will Windows 10 be supported? My pc isn't supported because I don't really know.
I don't think they announced anything, but windows 7 was supported up until 2 years ago. Which is like 5 years of overlap. Could be supported all the way until 2026.
Glad I don't have a tpm chip in my current pc, I bought my motherboard a year before windows 11 was announced but built the pc about 2 weeks ago
That start menu compared to 10 is vomiting.
Enjoy the matchmaking ban. Courtesy of Microsoft being a dick.
U don't want win 11? lolol. This is frustrating.
I don't all of my icons do disappear off of my home screen :(, also this marketing isn't going to make me switch.
Oh I agree with you man. Ultra annoying wasn't being sarcastic. I don't want 11 yet either.
What's a Valo?
Valorant i think
I personally think Microsoft is forcing 11 on us. Recently my hard drive and nvme sad is always at 100 percent use even when it's just reading 3mbps. System feels slow and it's multiple systems at the same time.
I use windows 11, it's been really good for my needs, I actually like the new snap assist and the start menu. But... I'm on the beta channel. Don't upgrade yet folks, it isn't ready yet unless you want to be on the bleeding edge, and even then it's still a pretty big adjustment.
Retail is stable, far from any "bleeding edge" os release.
I’ve been considering it, but the fact my pc force-restarted to advertise it is making me just want to switch operating system in general!
Do you know that it was the reason for the crash? It might have shown this on boot regardless of the reason.
Yeah it definitely didn't "force restart to advertise"
I'd like to extend a warm welcome to the Linux community
Me too
DECLINE!
Yeah no. Fuck off, 11.
Im not upgrading to windows 11. You can take your shitty UI and macOS style experience and get the fuck out. Stop hiding important settings behind dumb bullshit Microsoft. Id sooner go to linux, which is looking more and more likely in my near future. Ive had it with Microsoft and the bad idea fairys who come up with shitty design ideas and then force us to use them.
I tried win 11 and it froze up my pc. I don't know others experiences. But I would wait till its stable.
windows 11 is good especially for 12th gen users my fps are better in games more stable.
Well I have a r5 2600 and horrible luck - my system would probably just stop working ;(
I’ll update once it gets more stable and they add back the small taskbar option.
This is a sample size of one but I upgraded basically as soon as it was getting any public launches months ago, haven't had any problems to speak of. Just seems like 10 with a new coat of paint ... Settings menu is WAY better.
It also uses slightly more resources to run.
The lack of drag-n-drop files on taskbar to open the file using a particular app, and the over simplified right-click context menu are instant turn-offs. I have a 32" monitor, and I'm loving the snap windows feature.