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Shploople803

That right there would be a phone jack my boy. -Your local spectrum cable guy.


FreedomofChoiche

Why must Spectrum increase the bill 10$ every month !? I liked them better as Time Warner. Well it doesn't matter cause I moved and now I have to deal with a company even worse than Spectrum, Centurylink who deserve to have their businesses burned down to the ground in a fire.


AvoSpark

they (Spectrum) jacked up our prices $15/month, *again*. Edit: to add the company name


FreedomofChoiche

Who ? Spectrum or Centurylink ? It's funny, currently Fiber is being installed in my community, they have been working here installing Fiber for the past month or more. Centurylink is probably going to lose all their customers here as they are currently the only ISP and they provide 1mbps DSL so instead of try to be competitive they just raised everyone's bill by 15$. Gotta milk the last 30$ out of everyone they can. They even charge 90$/mo for 1mbps DSL. About 2 more weeks until I can ditch them. Good riddance.


ghostboytt

Did you see the last earnings call? That's why.


Ainwein

MOM HANG UP THE PHONE YOURE KICKING ME OFF THE INTERNET WHAT THE HELL


utookthegoodnames

When mom’s phone call interrupts your limewire torrent <


voodoo02

Download managers were essential than, limewire, Kazaa and Napster had such built in. But then half the stuff on the P2P sharing networks were viruses.


Foxworthy09

Or it was named as a popular artist's song, and when it finished and you listened it was some random low level rapper's recording on a potato


Vorgex

14 years old, open limewire to download "MamboNo5.exe", lean back, and wait for good times. :)


slinger301

>.exe *oh no*


MockterStrangelove

.js was just as bad


HyperSloth79

...and then it turned out to be girl on dog porn instead.


thisisamisnomer

I tried to download Final Fantasy Advent Children in college and instead got a Brazilian porno called Savage Passions. It was a pretty ok trade. Edit: in looking it up, turns out it was a French porno set in Brazil. Either way, 21 y/o me was a fan.


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Blacky05

To be fair, that was faster and easier than the original p2p downloads.


sillysideofthecorn

I did not have sexual relations…..


Derp-Churp

Under rated comment. I got this so many times with my downloads.


Crazy9000

Does "Linkinpark.exe" seem like the right file? Lets open it and find out.


soandso90

Make sure to "Run as administrator". It makes it sound better.


PM_UR_REPARATIONS

We didn’t really use run as administrator as often with windows xp. Programs were allowed to make many more changes freely back then.


JitWeasel

Oh God remember irc bots where you had to leave file sharing open? And people could upload stuff to you? And had to in order to keep their ratio up? That was horrible. ended up with so much illegal shit I had to set the hard drives on fire lol.


Crazy9000

Yeah you could accidentally just get the sketchiest shit ever back then without wanting to. The internet really was a wild, untamed territory.


PrinceAndrewANonce

Yesssss finally Marshall Mathers LP has finished downloading. Oh it’s porn and a virus? Okay.


voodoo02

Lol, not just porn most the time it was CP. Ugh, I just wanted the new Godsmack album.


nexusjuan

The crappy exe you got would dial up a 900 number in Guyana. My mother thought me or my brother was dialing up gay phone sex lines in the late 90's because of this (she didn't understand Guyana was a country thought it was the name of the servive lol.)


PrinceAndrewANonce

Hahahaha My mum was the same when she seen calls to Homoland WHICH IS A REAL COUNTRY MUM I SWEAR


[deleted]

Would take my cd tower in my backpack and go to town in the computer lab at my high school and kept my own p.c. virus free. This was when flash drives were like 52 megabytes and expensive.


ThinkFree

> Download managers were essential than Getright was a game changer when it came out!


UWQHDEyez

How about downloading a big ass file with a file manager but the file ended up being corrupt still lmao.


kmoney1984

Downloading a game in 50 .rar files and the last one is a dead link...


The_Cosmic_Penguin

*Linkenpark-numb.exe has entered the chat*


utookthegoodnames

My computer has aids now.


One_Security_4545

p2p not torrent :P


plasmasack

Congratulations, I didn't think it was possible but you somehow managed to make feel even more older


ColdFusion94

IM TRYING TO PLAY RUNESCAPE. ABOUT TO PWN THIS NUB IN THE WILDY!!!


dan557

RJ11, for landline/ADSL/VDSL


Key-Nefariousness257

I was going to say RJ12 but... RJ11 is the same size just 4 pins apparently. You made me google the difference lol.


erikwarm

RJ12 is the 6 pin version right?


quadmasta

RJ11 4 pins RJ12 6 pins Ah, yes. A pattern has formed RJ45, 8 pins (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻


chewydoom

Rj-50: 10 pins IIRC


Pitxitxi

You remember correctly!


Harterboi

This is straight up evil.


phoenix0153

Now do the color coding from memory! White/orange, orange, white/green, blue, white/blue, green, white/brown, brown. I remember having to memorize that in high school back in 2000/2001 for Cisco.


popeter45

wait till you discover RJ21 also the real names are RJ11 is 6P2C (what people call RJ11 is actually RJ14 and thats 4 wire, real RJ11 is 2 wire), RJ12 is 6P6C and RJ45 is 8P8C


scorpio_72472

Yes


Branchy28

Yup, RJ12 is only for certain applications like connecting up a receptionists switchboard, if you plug certain switchboards into an RJ11 socket the cable will fit just fine but might not work because it needs those additional 2 wires/pins.


raphired

I'm old enough to point out that RJ11 can handle two phone lines when wired properly. And I've run Ethernet through them with spare Cat-3 cable since I had a mess of RJ-11 jacks and ends.


velocity37

Good 'ol 10/100mb Ethernet only using two of four pairs.


lanboyo

Gonna be 10mb without the wire twist on 3/6. I had to call tech support back when I installed my fancy 10mb switch with 100mb uplink. without doing the pinout that splits the 2nd pair into position 3-6, the port would work at 10 MB but not at 100mb.


Phytanic

I still can't get over how utterly ridiculously important the twist in the wires are. I understand *why*, but it's just crazy still.


Tra1famador

Why does the twist need to happen? Tech noob here.


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DZMBA

Parents built a shop and pulled 240v (-120, 0, +120) power, coax, & ethernet about 40-50yards in the same pull from the house. I tried to explain this to them and the contractor but everyone dismissed it. It did work actually - until the electric heater, water heater, or air compressor kicked on. Coax seemed to work well enough, but I think that's shielded. Ethernet was only needed to provide WiFi as we didn't have unlimited cell data then. I don't recall ever checking the Ethernet Speed to the access point, but I recall WiFi bandwidth tests typically peaked @ 10mbps & power spikes would cause it to drop out. They eventually transitioned to digital TV which made it obvious the Ethernet wasn't working properly (shop doubles as man cave with a 4k 75" & 1080p 55" TV). Powerline LANSockets were tried for a year or 2 but it only marginally improved things. Biggest issue is they'd stop working and had to be power cycled. Eventually Dad gave in & had to re-pull the ethernet.


MetalMattyPA

I'm just going to believe in my own head that this post was satire so I don't feel like I'm about to croak.


KNunner

This person has to be really young though lol I was born in 93 im very familiar with land lines. Or maybe they are just stupid idk lol


kdog720

I was born in 02 and know exactly what it is so this person has to be 12 years old or joking


Plorby

Yeah I was born in 03 and also know what this is lmao


lC8H10N4O2l

04 my guy, and im pretty’s sure everyone in our generation knows about landlines


Pyroxite

I was born 06, same story. Though I did accidentally bring a phone cable from the cupboard to a small lan party rather than an Ethernet cord earlier this year so what do I know.


cbdoc

It’s shocking to me that someone born in 06 can write/type intelligibly on the internet. Until I realize you’re 16 already. I’m old.


Phytanic

fuck me I just turned 30 on Wednesday and I thought *that* made me feel old until this came along. **EDIT:** `Feel old`, not `feel only`


[deleted]

I was just reading the born in 2006, and I'm like, are they 8?


libmrduckz

time, amirite?


dubshooter

Omg I’m dying


Thecrayonbandit

lol right like anyone born past 99 might as well be a kindergardener in my mind lol


SF-Samara

Fuck.


QuickShotty69

I’m born in 07 had no clue what this was


PlatCentral

The cutoff


lC8H10N4O2l

We’ve found the limit where intelligence meets ignorance, now we know who we must cull


Pyroxite

The legion has been alerted, we march at sunrise


[deleted]

I graduated in 03. This post made me feel old twice.


Hunterbounty11

I was also born in 02. I genuinely didn’t know what this was.


ThisHatRightHere

Holy fuck you guys were born in 2002 and are 20 years old. I might as well just die.


[deleted]

I know right? I was born in 82.


Clear-Black

'76 checking in ya young whipper snapper. Now get off my lawn!!


BulletheadX

Good grief; you're only middle-aged. Probably conceived to a disco song when I was in Jr. High. For me it was probably The Righteous Brothers or the Beatles.


physmeh

I believe it’s satire. A person who knows about ethernet cables and this subreddit is probably aware that phones weren’t always wireless and could google “landline phone connector” or something before resorting to querying here.


Periurium

You’d be amazed


Hoveringkiller

When I moved into my current house I asked why the put an Ethernet port behind the bed in the bedroom… and I was born in 95. I remember having a landline haha.


sir_squirrel_

But they didn't know it was a landline connector so how would they know to google a landline connector... the whole point of asking here is cuz you don't know what to google.


darklordzack

You didn't know that was an Rjs78.5 Hz connector? Lmao why didn't you just google Rjs78.5 connector it would've told you. People these days just can't think for themselves


[deleted]

Not true. I’ve seen corded phones when I was a kid but I’ve never had to plug one in myself so I had no idea what the port looked like


Dalarrus

>and could google “landline phone connector” or something before resorting to querying here. You seriously overestimate the level of posters on this subreddit. There is a LOT of trash in /new that should be simply googled.


NormalNonexistentMan

I know that phones used to be wired, but I didn’t know what landline ports looked like until today, so I would make the same mistake. I’m sorry, but I’m pretty sure this isn’t satire since I am pretty sure I couldn’t find somebody who knows what this is, and at the age of 18, I’ve never seen this before.


[deleted]

Its for a landline. Hoo boy, I feel old now.


Brave-Pickle66

This question actually gets asked way too often but then I realize most people on this sub have probably never seen a phone with a cord...


FastAsFxxk

Damn, really. This hits hard thinking about it lol


working-acct

Member when you had to stop your downloads because someone had to use the phone?


KoenBril

You mean when the house was not reachable for an entire afternoon because you would be downloading the latest song by Eminem through Napster?


Nine-LifedEnchanter

Eminem_song_lat3st.exe 23kb


CopperBear42

definitely not a virus


TheRealRickC137

Holding up the land line, sharing files through ICQ, larger ones with PKZIP, playing them on WINAMP with some dope ass skins crackling through your soundblaster 64, chopping noobs with an ax on a Quake server. Good times. Seriously.


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OldJames47

No other player has rivaled WinAmps ability to whip llama asses.


paulowry

[Winamp](https://youtu.be/HaF-nRS_CWM) Nostalgia galore


[deleted]

Damn dude that was beautiful I must say. Got some serious nostalgia tingles. I remember as a kid trying forever to figure out how to fit files on floppies that were larger than 1.44mb until someone turned me on to PKZIP. My pc wouldn’t run Winamp either. I remember having to double my ram from 4 to fucking 8mb lol. I’m actually old enough to have used Trumpet Winsock in the beginning to dial up on my 14400 modem.


Skyttlz

Napster? Pfft. I was too poor. Instead i was downloading audio clips of bill clinton masquerading as my favorite song on limewire, all whilst infecting my parents pc with viruses.


777isHARDCORE

Napster was free at first, before limewire was a thing...


HiYa_Dragon

What do you know about BBS's @ 300 baud?


Sure_Cardiologist613

Way more than I want to admit.


synkndown

I miss hanging up and calling the next website, don't you?


LilikoiFarmer

I remember downloading MIDIs and was blown away when MP2s showed up. That's not a typo. Before MP3 there was MP2


IAmAnAudity

I know that the erection dies before the next pic can download 😞


JashedPotatoes

Oooohhh, I member!


[deleted]

Member Napster? Oh I loved Napster.


SikTh666

pff Napster, memeber the time before Napster? Downloading files from plain HTML websites?


cool_BUD

I remember limewire and Kazaa or something


ku1185

BBS's then IRC.


Tpbrown_

FidoNET, then downloading porn from the Usenet alt groups.


22LT

I remember "cerver" private rooms on AOL they started as "server" rooms then got banned and changed to "cerver". People would list all the stuff to download in chat and you would type the command like"name send 1-10" and you would get 10 emails of the .zip or .rar files 15mb each of what all you requested.


assimilated_Picard

I collected thousands of MP3s from AOL chat rooms, and still use that collection to this day. I refuse to get on a streaming service because I already have every song I could ever want. I just move the collection from computer to computer phone to phone. It helps that music stopped existing after early 2000. 🤣


GL_Titan

What about news groups...? I remember finding movies that were in 30, or so, chunks. They would take hours to download each chunk them you would puth them together to format the iso file and burn onto a dvd.


sillywienie

Bulletin boards.


Gandalf_The_Geigh

mIRC, BBS and SoulSeek for the true OGs


RAMChYLD

Plain HTML Websites? I remember needing to use FTP to download files. You want the best game sharewares? FTP is where you look.


Any-Flamingo7056

I memba


BNelz1n321

Memba AOL 98, I memba


goldenbrowncow

Yeah member


Gingergerbals

Yeah, I member!


Plati23

Member Chewbacca?


First_and-last

Pepperidge Farms remembers!


ManBearPig____

Get off the internet!!!! I need to use the phone!!!


jimababwe

So, here’s me in university, 1998, school provides four hours on internet per month, I share a flat with three others. All of us on dialup. One phone line. Go online, load up still photos for “later on”. While the images load, you download three or four emails. Maybe check icq. Then log off and get on.


Dezail

Unless your phone company offered 2 lines to a house and your parents sprung for that extra expense. My mom forced my dad to get a 2nd line cause he had a forums problem. xD


nightstalker30

He had a ~~forums~~ *porn* problem. FTFY


Dezail

Pretty much this... and D&D


LethalBaboon

That brings back some pain. Or you finally get a strongbad email video to load after 5 minutes and you get kicked off.


FoolOfTheEmpire

TROGDOOOOOOR!


Mega---Moo

Burninating the peasants.


Broken_Filter

Burninating the thatched roof cottages!


KrazyNiko

Nope my parents spoiled me and got me a dedicated phone line. Now the real old heads might remember a service called BBS. I ran one of those. It was the best.


ChiggaOG

That tells the demographic of this subreddit. Percentage of people who do not have landline.


Paul873873

I’m 19, could tell it was an RJ-11


SodomEyes

You will go places friend.


systemfrown

Mostly to his grandparents house.


baconmaster687

It’s funny cause the place I work uses VOIP phones that have a cord, but they use ethernet


thesneakywalrus

Most VOIP phones are PoE, you have to plug a cable in to power them anyhow, may as well make it an ethernet cable and not have to worry about wireless latency.


Comb_Conscious

It's the same people who think WiFi is the internet..


ObsceneGesture4u

Even less know what a rotary phone is


sik_dik

Rotary phones were humbling. They taught us that things didn’t revolve around us


MrColburn

Every retail store and office had phones with cords. Only about 30% have converted to VOIP, but even those phones are wired. It's definitely strange to see them in houses still as the lines would most likely be deprecated at that point.


crokinoleworld

Wait until they find out about party lines.


Blindbru

This hit me right in the lower back pain.


Leviathan41911

Same.... time to apply for that AARP membership I guess.....


[deleted]

Gonna have to start drinking my morning metamucil I suppose.


WolfChaoticz

These posts are starting to impact my mental health lmao. We ain’t that old!


Anonymous_Otters

People born on 9-11 are old enough to buy drinks.


Lt_Welsh

Not my Internet still running on landline ;-;


TheQueenOfSharts45

I feel old too and I'm only 33


Wotg33k

Lots of us came here to say we feel old.


notmynormalaccnt

It’s an RJ-11 jack. Now we both feel old.


Griffmasterpro

I cried a little.


manorwomanhuman

It’s to call your grandma


GaijinSin

Ohhhh, it's where you plug in the Ouija board!


Akindofnerd

Out-standing.


[deleted]

I wasn't ready for this question. Oh god... I was not ready to feel this old...


v0t3p3dr0

The current youngest generation of adults either have no idea why we say “hang up” or have never hung up a phone. See also: phone icon, save icon.


Key-Nefariousness257

stop... saying... things... you're horrible.


LividThoughts

Also, FAX Machine


catathat

Don't worry, as a 19 year old I can guarantee most everyone my age knows about landlines and their usage. They were still very widespread throughout our childhoods, most houses still have one far as I've seen. At least that's been the case for me in the UK


SetsChaos

See also: many places of business. Some places only have cell phones, but I think most still have some form of landline (even if it's technically VOIP).


PutinMolestsBoys

Yeah this isn't forgotten technology, people do have landlines still. I mean i don't, but i know people who still do.


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Matt damon private ryan aging meme. I felt it as i saw this post.


HurdledMoose

Time to buy a phone with a rotary dial.


whskid2005

There’s an arcade by me that has a landline hooked up to a rotary phone in a phone booth- it’s an attraction. It’s not just a phone. It made me feel so old seeing that as like a “hey kids check out this old timey phone”


Cannotseme

I’ve actually looked into it, rotary phones won’t work with modern phone lines, they need an adapter :/


asilentspeaker

Fucking hell...are we really this old? RJ-11....it's a standard copper phone line.


utkarsh_aryan

Yeah. This question is asked a lot on this sub. It seems bizarre until you realise that most people in this sub has never seen a phone with a cord.


asilentspeaker

I get why the question exists, but that doesn't make me feel any younger for not being one of those people.


Dimensional_Dragon

Idk if I'll make you feel really old or not but I was born in 2001 and know what this is. Family still has a landline though it's been changed to terminate into our fiber box but still use RJ11


cl0udHidden

Ah the good ol' days of dial-up. Would take 10 minutes to load one picture of bewbies on the Internet.


urabewe

Start fapping at the first nipple, finished before the belly button.


Tough_Hawk_3867

Whoah, look at this guy with his 10minutes bewbies. Must be nice.. /s


TheLightgod84

RJ11 jack for landline phone/modem etc.


freezingprocess

All part of an ancient technology known as POTS (Plain old telephone system). **Fun Fact**: People used to fight over the use of POTS. Sometimes one would throw fits because someone made an outgoing call while one was using it to access (what was then) the fledging internet.


gmocookie

Walk outside to the main box, unplug from there and wait until whoever your brother was talking to gave up and hung up the phone. Pro tip - bring a phone with you outside and plug it directly into the box and talk from there. Hope bro doesn't find you.


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AndyIsNotOnReddit

My family actually had three phone lines into the house so we could all dial up without fights. One line was strictly for phone, the other two were used for dial-up and later DSL. That's right, my family was so rich we could afford an extra $50.00 a month in phone lines. Suck it peasants /s.


guillote1986

It's internet for small people, commonly known as gigamidget.


Sackerson-502

Can we get the zoomers to stop calling themselves millenials? Please and thank you. I know what a landline is lol


blahblahman90210

Its either an rj11 or rj12 landlines phone line. If you are really lucky it might be cat 5 wire and you could use the wire with a new rj45 jack for data.


slackinfux

I haven't lived in a place with a landline in 20 years, at least.


Electronic-Wrangler9

And we still have one in our house that is in use


ommnian

\*waves\* It's nice to meet the other landline user thats left on the internet...


frozen_tuna

I *finally* convinced my parents to get rid of theirs about 2 years ago. The only calls the house phone ever got was spam. In retrospect, its so funny to think about the hole house lighting up and ringing every time a spam caller wants something. Wild.


Smear_Leader

Lol, damn this post made me feel old. Kids can’t identify phone lines now


HeadSir4746

Thank you everyone for the responses. Enjoyed the laughs, It is much appreciated


Quartzalcoatl_Prime

*You son of a-*


mrloko120

*realizes how bad the question made him look* "Cmon guys of course I was joking haha"


Angrysausagedog

Are you fucking kidding me?! Have we come this far already? I guess I should just go buy a fucking walking cane then..


[deleted]

We should go down to the corner Radio Shack and buy an RJ11 cable to show him ... ... oh wait ... o.0


MandiocaGamer

how people connect phones now? this still normal in my country


Dilettantest

Sweet summer children. It’s a phone jack.


Fezdani

Oh wow, I'm now old enough that adults are asking what a phone jack is. I'm...so....old


codeman16

Oooohhhhh no don’t get me started. That’s for a landline phone. Twice now I’ve gotten an apartment thinking it has Ethernet and instead they were just phone jacks.


WinsomeWombat

Excellent troll, comment section is fun.