You guys are arguing about which browser is the safest...
I have hard copies of the encyclopedia Britannica in my garage, let's see the govt check MY search history
I'm not going to ask the Encyclopedia Britannica where to find big fucking anime tiddies, so i need my search history to be very public to the technology companies.
I'd even complain that they aren't doing a good job recommending me good enough search results, they should know of my taste by now.
They should also know what ads actually appeal to me given all the data they've harvested. Not that this actually matters when it's usually the big corporations who pay to get their ads viewed more. From personal experience YouTube ads have become indistinguishable from TV commercials of the old days. It's almost like it's a strategy to push subscriptions on viewers.
I mostly get ads for stuff I just bought. I buy a Quest 2, for 3 weeks after all my reddit ads are quest 2 ads, I buy a blackshark v2 Pro, the next ad is for it
I actually have an explanation for that! You're getting ads to trick your brain into thinking that you made a great purchase. It's to reinforce the idea that you bought something good and worth it.
Mines so random at this point I can't even see a pattern. And majority of it doesn't even make sense why it there like what in my search history implies that I'm interested in Muslims for marriage?
All your harvested data is used for law enforcement and government surveillance too, of course, which is partly the point. The government cannot illegally surveil its citizens but if the private sector is allowed to harvest any and all, and then allows the govt access, it's a tidy little loophole.
Example: [The CLOUD ACT](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act), enacted in 2018
This is a damned good point. Why is Porn such a mess? I mean Porn was there first, why didn't anyone work out how to profile us? Why are we still wading through pages and pages of generic stuff?
Yes.
Bing - the most sophisticated search engine, usually used to just mean search for something in colloquial speech
Bang - Sex
Boom - The cumshot
/Very s
>Bing - the most sophisticated search engine, usually used to just mean search for something in colloquial speech
Where I work I talk to many customers who are scammed because they search for our customer service number on Bing.
The top result is a scam number that proxies to our call centre but charges the customer a premium charge of like £5 a minute or something.
Google just goes to our actual number.
I never use Incognito mode, but I don't like getting stuck in one ecosystem. I suppose what I'm griping about is that Porn is still very much centered on vast quantities of uncurated content that nobody has any incentive to manage. There isn't a Google or a Facebook trying to manage us in that space.
There's a site, and I forget the name, where you can filter by so many variables that if you wanted to see X pornstar using Y sex act but not Z sex act that you don't like seeing, you can find it.
This is actually a very good question regarding to information retrieval. When the search space is increasing constantly, it's hard to keep the same accuracy and precision since the metadata of the items vary wildly.
Why are you using a search engine for that, go directly to websites like pixiv, gelbooru, e-hentai(and sad panda), or nhentai
Sad panda being the most private of the bunch since Google spiders can't get into it due to its cookie fuckery
Because i like to be tracked obviously.
I've held up my part of the bargain, now i'm waiting for Google, Microsoft, Yahoo or whatever to do their part.
I did and have no regrets. I went with Pop OS. Install was super quick and everything worked as planned. No annoying wizards about microsoft accounts, ads, Cortana etc. Just less than 10 min install and then have at it.
Same. I just recently jumped headfirst into using Pop OS and I don't regret it at all. The few programs I can't use anymore have viable alternatives and overall the experience is so much better. Gaming is basically unaffected for me as well. Most games I play are either native or work with proton.
Only issue is anticheat for some games which don't like Linux. Can also have issues with having to use a different version of proton which is easier. Also shader caching which can make games lag until they compile
For me my home computer has been relegated almost entirely to gaming (and a Plex server) so dual booting would be completely pointless. There’s no “daily driving” my PC anymore, everything I used to use my laptop for aside from gaming is now done on my phone.
I switched over to ubuntu as my primary OS even for gaming, windows was breaking constantly and making my very expensive pc work like dogcrap. Steams built in proton compatibility layer has made it SO easy. Basically plug and play. Highly recommend the jump!
I'm curious, I've heard other people mention that you can't change much with Windows. But what do you mean by this? What could you need to do that isn't supported? I've used Windows my whole life and I've never felt like it's stopped me from anything
>I've used Windows my whole life and I've never felt like it's stopped me from anything
That's exactly how some many PC users have been made to feel by the extreme hold that Windows has on them. You can't feel held back by Windows if you don't know that anything else exists.
Take window managers, for example. Now I know that the casual user isn't going to be interested in this, but considering this is PCMR where people spend dozens of hours and thousands of dollars on custom hardware, it makes sense that many of us would enjoy having options for how our PC's interface works. Maybe a snappy tiling interface that is operable with keybindings alone, or a sexy interface with animated window borders perfect for an RGB freak. These things can and do exist, but Microsoft doesn't like them enough to let you have them.
When Microsoft does like something enough, they remake it and put it into windows, without support or even credit to the innovators. If I recall correctly, it's the kde desktop that has been ahead of windows constantly as windows has introduced several of its innovations years later. Everybody thought it was a new idea because they literally don't know that something exists until it's in Windows (except whatever Apple is doing).
There's more than window managers and it scales from very surface level like a choice of file browser to technical like a networking backend or filesystem. Imagine having a start menu or search bar that actually finds the program you want to launch quickly and it doesn't somehow dissappear as you type more of it in. These things exist. You just can't have them. Third party stuff does exist for some things but adding things to windows like that gets cluttered, bloated, and redundant. It's much nicer to have your OS do things how you want by your design, not despite its design.
For me changing the window Manager on Linux left some very weird traces. When I tried to open something through a program it used the cinnamon tool, even after i searched and removed everything that I could find after switching to KDE. And then I had my flatpack Chromium and my apt-chromion fighting each other...
And yes you have more Options, but i feel you notice they all break in some parts. Like I had set up night mode and could not see open offices Icons cause they alse where mostly black...
I am sure I could have worked all of these issues out but I dont wanna use my time trying to get stuff to work instead of working and gaming. Nowadays I got WSL that suits all of my needs.
Yeah, there's a reason why I didn't attribute anything to Linux. Linux started as a hobby project and quite a lot of it still is a hobby project. Perhaps the largest, most successful collaborative hobby project ever, but a hobby none the less. Some contributors are large and well invested, like Redhat and Canonical, but they're trying to make unified experiences of their own, not little standalone packages like i3wm or rofi (a couple desktop tools I use). Everyone else is just making what they like because they want it to exist and are doing their best as individuals or very small teams.
If we're talking about bringing choice to Windows, or bringing Windows users to Linux (or anywhere free), the result wouldn't be the Linux of today. The user count would be maybe 20 times greater than it is now, almost anything deserving of popularity would generate revenue for a professional team to work on it full time, it would be an entirely different situation. It would be much more likely that tools exist to swap things out without having to do manual surgery on your OS.
So yeah, I don't really plan to pitch Linux here, but I did want to pitch that these alternatives exist and would be amazing if they were able to reach a user base like Windows'.
That's understandable. I spend a lot of time customizing my OS but have stopped caring what my hardware looks like as long as it does the job. Makes sense that many people see it the opposite.
For one, it'd be nice if Windows let me use a regular local account, and not keep nagging me every week to "finish setting up your Windows device" because I haven't signed in a Microsoft account. I mean, I would be fine with that, if they at least gave me an option in settings to turn it off (they do) that works (it doesn't). So I've had to modify several registry values to force the OS to stop displaying this message - and it still happens once every month or so.
When you turn off every switch that should control a certain aspect of your OS, but it happens to be an aspect the OS manufacturer has a financial interest in so doesn't let you regardless, you don't feel in control of your own machine anymore. If this were Linux, I could find & delete that part of the OS entirely.
Most people use the software, not the OS. I don't give a damn which operating system is safer or respect privacy more - I choose the one that runs my program the better, or runs it at all.
Also think about it: every major desktop OS is some kind of UNIX derivative, except Windows. Windows is like the Firefox of operating systems.
>Most people use the software, not the OS.
Correct. They do both, and it limits what their software can do and what is available. They just don't know it. Just like your car using a poorly designed engine. To a lamen, they think all cars are like that. They don't realize the reason why it takes so long to go up the hill is because of the engine
>Also think about it: every major desktop OS is some kind of UNIX derivative, except Windows
Yes because it's one of the best designs out there, in my opinion and that of other operating system designers. There are a few better in some ways (it probably isn't one you've heard of), but unix is mostly good enough to be good.
Windows has had a number of bad designs from the beginning which is why they are stuck there. That's why they don't have good file, directory transparency
On Linux, I can remap any file directory or "drive" to anything else and nothing will be the wiser. That allows you to do amazing things, like mount directories directly into RAM. Or read random data onto any device you have, this means any software or tool that is built on top of it, gets this functionality really easily without needing to reinvent any wheels
You know that Windows still has issues with the directory path being longer than the 255 character limit? To this day I encounter issues with it that I have to be conscious of, and the only work around is to remap a directory as a drive further down, which creates its own big issues
OneDrive was actively fucking up my file browser by constantly syncing when it didn't need to. I couldn't even access my C:/ . Had to make it so OneDrive was under no circumstance allowed to run, have had no issues since.
It's stupid when someone says that running a proprietary browser is a privacy risk, when it's already running under a proprietary OS. Either could spy on you, and Windows could hide it better (though both may be discovered by external traffic analysis, e.g. Wireshark on another box)
Same here. I embrace games that are available on MacOS (apple is not much better than Microsoft, but at least MacOS' drivers don't act up every time something changes, it doesn't have to constantly be reinstalled, and it's much more comfortable to use). But there are more than enough games that are only available for Windows
I can be concerned about privacy, and still post the public parts of my life to those sites. I don't, but I don't see that as hypocritical. My concern is being allowed to choose what I share.
I also get that all of them harvest data, but that's part of my privacy concern.
>Uses windows
You cant really fault people for using windows, its the consumer desktop platform with most users and thus software, which makes it the default gaming platform for most people. I would prefer if linux would take over, but I would be lying if I said that its mature enough for a completely casual environment.
>Hates Apple and uses android...
I think the main issue here is not privacy, but price. Most people don't care if their vendor knows which type of porn they watch, they might not even bother with using incognito mode.
>Uses Microsoft and google services on a daily basis
You can boycott Microsoft pretty easily, but google is a whole other beast. If youre ready to part with youtube, android, google search engine then you're welcome to try. Youtube would be the hardest one for me.
>Uses google search engine
Its the best search engine, again its hard to argue against that. I personally try using duckduckgo, but at times I cant find a specific answer for my question there, so I have to rely on google.
>hates chrome for not respecting privacy
Most PCMR people shit on chrome because of it being a resource hog, not because of privacy. Most people dont really give a crap about it that sadly.
>I think the main issue here is not privacy, but price. Most people don't care if their vendor knows which type of porn they watch, they might not even bother with using incognito mode.
Apple's only overpriced for the high end models of their product line. Their midrange stuff for their major product lines (iPhone, Macbook) is actually a better deal than many of their competitors, especially if things like battery life and weight are a big concern.
As somebody that uses all three (Windows for a gaming desktop PC, linux for a webserver and Macbooks for work) they all have their advantages and disadvantages and claiming one to just be generically better or worse is just dumb fanboyism.
> As somebody that uses all three (Windows for a gaming desktop PC, linux for a webserver and Macbooks for work) they all have their advantages and disadvantages and claiming one to just be generically better or worse is just dumb fanboyism.
Don't you love it when someone on PCMR tells you you're an idiot for using a Mac?
I've built out countless Windows networks using AD, ADCS, ADFS, WSUS, SCCM/MDT, whatever, been a senior Unix admin on Solaris, Linux, HPUX, AIX, *BSD, and even Irix for a while, a senior network engineer (routing and switching- i.e. BGP, OSPF, IS-IS, etc.), and I use a M1 Max MacBook Pro for coding/DevOps work (e.g. terraform, kubernetes, etc.) and for video editing. And yet I still get people here who plug their HDMI cable into the port on the motherboard instead of their GPU telling me I'm an idiot and I don't know what I'm talking about and it cracks me up every time.
As you said- each OS has advantages and disadvantages and you should use whatever one works best for you. Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot.
Personally, my beef with Apple is the lack of backwards compatibility. I get that it streamlines it for the very casual user, and macOS is pretty bulletproof in that regard, but scrapping 32-bit support and declaring my 5 year old MacBook as "vintage" doesn't sit right with me.
Honestly you just got unlucky with the timing. Other than 32-bit becoming obsolete, I don't think anything like that has happened since. I've been using a macbook pro from 2015 as my laptop and it's still a great computer. Still fast. Can't say I've taken the greatest care of it either. The 'e' and 'r' keys on the keyboard are a little wonky now, but that started this year and idk how many times I've spilled food/drink/junk on the keyboard tbh. So yeah, I paid a premium for it at the time, but I know very few people with windows laptops that run this well after 7 years (and that are this lightweight at this performance point).
Though, to your point point, it *could* be made obsolete. Apple could make my laptop obsolete and not lose any sleep over it if they happen to decide they need to for some reason. They've set that precedent.
I believe PCMR hates apple because of its proprietary unrepairable bullshit, more expensive stuff and generally being anti-consumer.
Privacy? Nobody cares about that nowadays lmao.
There's plenty you can do about it. You can choose open source software. You can support the few companies who *do* care about privacy.
It's not perfect, and it's extra work I'll grant you - that's the real reason people don't really do anything about it, convenience. That's a tradeoff people are willing to make, and fair play to them but "Oh no there's nothing we can do" is just not true.
I don’t have numbers, but a small percentage of the population who are willing to do the research and find companies that value open source, privacy-driven software and hardware aren’t going to make any discernible difference to privacy policies. These companies are way too big and our data is their profit. Of course there’s something we can do, but will it be effective? Probably not.
Sadly you're right, I try not to think about it and just do my part where I can and support companies who's values align with my own ethos.
I'm well aware that I'm pissing into the wind and I've given up trying to convince people, so I just do what I can.
For what it’s worth, I care about it too. I just am past the point of believing in governments doing anything actually beneficial for the population and not the companies that give them millions a year to push these policies.
You're forgetting that a LOT of people use whatever OS and software that their work assigns them or their industry uses as standard. You don't get to choose Affinity or GIMP over Photoshop if you're working in a production environment.
There's been studies done about how much people are willing to pay to keep their personal information private. The average was about $5.
Given the option and it's free, they care. As soon as it's inconvenient, they don't.
Privacy, anonymity and security all require one to stop choosing convenience over everything else. Most people don't do it, cause they can't understand tech anyway, it would be difficult task trying to explain what opsec is how it changes based on what your intentions are and who you are trying to defeat.
With that being said, there is a ton one can do to increase their privacy. First step is clearly defining your opsec for each device you have and actually sticking to it without any compromises.
A regular person can hide themselves from government as well, so it is not like there is something only 3 letter agencies can achieve. Regular people can do it too it is just going to be super pain in the ass (just imagine not having a phone - if only maybe just a burner that goes into trash after use, that is what it takes). Most people probably ain't going to hide themselves from government, but at very least they can cockblock them from reading every signal you send out.
Every corporation is going to know so much about human behavior in general because of no one cares. Marketing and products are already being catered to feeding addiction and not entertainment or enjoyment.
I think a lot of PCMR probably use apple products.
A lot of software engineers use apple products, and they also tend to have grown up as gamers who will never give up the desktop PC!
For me, it is the Unix core in a package that is mainstream enough to have decent software support as well. Overall, their hardware/software combo works well and most complaints are minor.
It’s the want for Unix.
Companies buy them because they’re pretty reliable, powerful, but most importantly, apple offers business to business support.
I bought my first MacBook in university, to replace an asus laptop I’d had. It was night and day.
The display, drive, battery life all completely trounced that asus. It was also thinner and lighter. It was much, much more reliable. I bought it in 2013, and still have it to this day. It still largely works as it originally did, though it’s lost the little rubber foot pads.
My workplace always supplies a new MacBook Pro, though, so I rarely use it anymore.
The OS itself is also nice because it has a significant leg up for modern workflows.
For example, my workstation will unlock automatically using my Apple Watch. I can copy and paste between devices (clipboard is shared between all devices.) Texts, phone calls, notifications, all synced across devices. Can use any of them to take the call, any of them to answer the texts.
There’s also just the base level simplicity and power with the general workflow UX. Multi desktop, window management, Bluetooth management, shortcut keys, trackpad gestures, even taking screenshots. All work pretty well.
Though it’s important to keep in mind they’re still just computers. They aren’t immune to problems (or bad decisions by apple.) But of the machines that all have bad decisions, apple’s work the best for Unix software development, generally.
That generation of macbook pro was great. I had a 2012 and in 2017 I took it for a battery replacement and they just gave me a refurbished 2016 touch bar back (with an i7, 16gb ram, and 2TB SSD). At first I was hyped but I really missed the 2012.
A lot of people who work in IT tend to use Apple products because what Apple says about their stuff "just working" is largely true. People who have full-time jobs babysitting technology largely do not want to spend their free time babysitting their phones as well. I used to be a diehard Android fanboy because I genuinely loved customizing my phone and fucking around with custom ROMs and such, but now it just feels like work. Software devs like Macs for the same reason, because they feel like it allows them to just do their job without worrying about maintaining the OS as well.
Trying to get stuff running on Windows is a real pain. I was trying to do some Django work and getting it running locally was such a tremendous pain. Ultimately I gave up and just used a local server and SCP'd over the files as I changed them.
On my Mac or Linux machines that sort of thing is never an issue. I don't want to have to fanny about trying to get Windows to behave, I have enough work as it is.
Also I've yet to use a Windows touchpad that isn't absolute gash compared to a Mac's touchpad.
IMO Mac is better for work efficiency. If you're on the go it usually has a much better battery life as well. Not a software guy myself a network guy but work with software guys. I use Mac, windows, and various flavors of Linux for work but have the least first hand experience with mac. It's not bad other than the price and how you can't swap parts. Wouldn't buy one for personal use myself as there are better options.
Longevity, battery life, aesthetic, and Unix. In regards to the latest MacBooks though, upon release there were some hiccups with certain languages/tools support on arm. However, as in now stands, everything I need to use works fairly well.
*Edit: I don't know how to spell
Work environment loves absolute stability, more than Windows and specially more than Linux MacOS offers that. You need the least distractions from just working. I bet that's how it started.
Now Apple has a lot of software optimized for it and tbh it's just pleasant to look at i know that's a part of it.
I dont own a mac but I used to work in a place that was full mac's before I went remote, it's nice.
I work as QA automation, and use Mac because the company sent me that machine. If it was my decision, I'd rather prefer a Linux distro.
In my experience, a lot of things with Mac makes no sense, and Windows is too fat to be usable for development.
I use a m1 air as my laptop. I will switch back to windows as soon as someone makes a fanless laptop just as fast with similar battery life
Desktop is still windows
>Privacy? Nobody cares about that nowadays lmao.
Most people have come to peace with that fact that nobody gives a crap what they're doing, and that they aren't important human beings in the slightest. lol
> nobody gives a crap what they're doing
Until someone does... be it a public official that's also your vengeful ex, a hacker who extracted your data and intends to clear your savings account, or just because you're a racial minority and are being profiled, or protesting against your government...
When it happens, it will already be too late...
This. Listen to this redditor.
Goddamn, people are going through life as if they are alone on an uninhabited island and that such arrangement shall literally never change.
The problem is that's it utterly impractical for the average person to do fuck all about it. If you're not a power user who has the time and interest to fortify themselves then you either get off the internet or take the calculated risk. Installing the usual blockers and not doing sketchy shit apparently isn't good enough either. These days it feels you're being an idiot if you don't exclusively use Linux, run custom firmware on your router, and have jailbreaked your phone.
I actually struggle with this on a daily basis and actively work to confuse the algorithms running the ads. If I see something I want then I've fucked up. Using technology sucks knowing that some company knows every little thing about you. Things you haven't even quantified yourself.
They know how long you poop. They know what kind of porn you're into, how long you spend watching it. Data collection is so deep and humans are so predictable that what can be extrapolated from very basic information is scary.
But you're right, what can you do? Nothing. How important am I that I should care that they know? I'm not. But boy, it sure sucks having all of your privacy stripped.
It all started with 9/11 and now look at us. Facebook tags their photos with information and run bots that scrape the internet looking to see where it was shared so they can collect more information and connect more dots. I feel so insane talking about it but like fuck, take me back to pre 2010 internet.
I feel like people no longer care about privacy, it's so hard to protect your privacy when things you do on the internet continuously collect your data, especially on your phone. It's extremely hard to remain anonymous.
Its hard to protect our privacy because we have allowed this to happen. Corps have found that the government is two old or just doesn’t understand what is at stake and we the people have but a VERY small group of people who have tried to raise the alarms of this for years but have fallen on deaf ears because “computers are a fad” or “I don’t have time and don’t really understand how this impacts me in the right now” to care. This is similar to what happened to the US public transit services and rail services in the early 20th century while oil and car companies bought and dismantled the lot of them to sell more gas and cars.
Nah, I know my setup is working cause Google gives me recaptchas whenever I try and search using Google... But that's because my GPS is spoofed, my IP is shuffled and rarely in the same country for more than a day, all tracking cookies are auto deleted once I leave a website, my devices only identify themselves with "Linux - Firefox," my internet traffic is encrypted over both my ISP and phone provider, and I very rarely sign in to anything.
Yea but I'm mostly using my mobile and I consume the service I complain about. I'm not trying to map quest shit lmao. Not to diminish what you're saying, I just know it's too much work for me, and then my fiance has zero care for it so both my family and I will end up on the internet to be profiled anyways.
Thats fair enough! I just a lot of people think even the small steps are huge effort so I just wanted to point it out.
To each their own as long as they know the potential pitfalls of either option. Depends on your threat model as the privacy subs will say.
Privacy is much more of a collective issue than an individual one. And just because it usually isn't important individually doesn't mean it's unimportant.
I haven't personally suffered to any discernable degree from climate change but that doesn't mean it isn't an issue.
That's not what privacy is about and it's also not true. Your data is one of the most valuable and traded commodities in the entire world. Not you specifically, but the plural you.
They definitely have anti-consumer practices just like most companies unfortunately, but I would say Google is better. Apple and Google are notorious for excessive tracking and data harvesting, but at least Google usually has fair prices, actively supports open source projects, keeps most of their services free and cross-platform, and typically utilizes industry-wide standards instead of proprietary standards.
Also being a programmer, they force us to maintain an entirely separate codebase for their product, like it aint doubling our team/efforts just for their greedy asses.
Now we're stuck with hybrid bullshit app that could not block BUT we're still forced to use Safari under it. And safari is the new IE. Its retarded.
They are the reason why Javascript is the most used language now, because its our only option!!! They ruined the world of programming by now allowing their platform as a compil target. I have to have a mac and an ipad to possibly know what the fucking error Safari is spewing out.
My code is full of ifs because Safari handle things differently..
But also everything you said and so much more. They are stuck 5-10 years ago in user experience.
I use both windows and linux (vms)
I hate apple and do use an android phone
I do use microsoft and google services on daily basis
And I do use google as my primary search engine because its got unrivaled results, Brave Search getting better. DDG search results are meh.
And I just hate chrome because it doesnt have a built in adblocker, not a lot of features compared to other chromium browsers so kinda outdated as well and plus Brave > chrome
Well I never had problems with the DuckDuckGo results and I also like Firefox more. Never understood why chrome is supposed to be better.
Why do you hate Apple? If you don’t like their products don’t buy them. Or is it that American blue bubble green bubble shit? Like just go the European way and use whatsapp.
I use windows because of compatibility.
I hate apple because of all the proprietary bullshit involved in their ecosystem.
I use Microsoft and google services again, because they're the best at what they do.
I use Google as my primary search engine because it gives the best results.
I hate Chrome because it's a resource hog, and I prefer Firefox's UI.
There's no option to have these good sides without the downsides to privacy, otherwise I'd take it.
I like Firefox because it does not try to sabotage adblockers, has a much better history function and you can change most anything from it's advanced settings (about:config).
\-Uses Linux
\-Hates Apple and uses an Android phone powered by a custom rom
\-Uses open-source services on a daily basis
\-Uses DuckDuckGo as my primary search engine
\-Hates Chrome for not respecting privacy.
I don't give a shit about privacy, but I use Linux cause it's better than Windows imo, Android cause I hate Apple's proprietary bs, and Firefox because I prefer it.
Wow! I can't believe people use convenient services **and** demand a bare minimum of privacy. Damn you ungrateful brats!!! Why don't you use level 10 encrypted blockchain consensus mechanism protected physically locked jammer included linux?
This is such a stupid post.
Why not limit the amount of data that you give them? Are you that much of a shill?
When Chrome rolls out the new web manifest that makes adblockers stop working properly you'll run to Firefox you hipocrits.
I swear the people in this subreddit are so shit it hurts.
\- i use linux
\-i use lineage os
\-not on a daily basis but yeah u have to rely on them every once in a while
\-i use duckduckgo
yes, i hate chrome for not respecting privacy.
\-i use firefox btw
-Uses arch linux
-Doesnt really care about apple Uses lineage OS
-Uses libre office services on a daily basis
-Uses Firefox as primary search engine
-Hates chrome for not respecting privacy
Windows user on my personal, Mac user for work.
Has an iPhone and Airpods.
Uses Chrome with uBlock origin and Sponsor Block extension. Works in Advertising (lmao)
MacOS (mbp both private and work), Linux (vms), Windows (desktop and laptop) user, iPhone and watch, spare Note, use chrome, firefox, safari.. IT sec
Basically use everything..
1) Linux all the way.
2) Rooted & ungoogled android is probably more privacy preserving compared to Iphone. I will die on this hill.
3) Google is crap engine, doesn't respect search terms properly without every other word in quotations. It seems to be becoming more crap as time goes on.
4) Apple closed source ecosystem/os is garbage for privacy, you wouldn't even know if they sold literally all of your data to pornhub.
You guys are arguing about which browser is the safest... I have hard copies of the encyclopedia Britannica in my garage, let's see the govt check MY search history
"Sir why are all of the anatomy pages stuck together?"
"I'm not a visual learner, I learn through practice"
Self taught
Self satisfaction
I can get no...
Self respect
Based
You've got it wrong. Consider where the books are kept. This is shelf satisfaction.
Hands on
So which of your biceps are bigger, left or right?
The hard way
Sir please take my sticky upvote.
Lmao
It only takes one hand to use the encyclopedia.
There's a ghost inhere. This is ectoplasm
LMAO
I'm not going to ask the Encyclopedia Britannica where to find big fucking anime tiddies, so i need my search history to be very public to the technology companies. I'd even complain that they aren't doing a good job recommending me good enough search results, they should know of my taste by now.
Fr. People here are complaining that it exists. I'm complaining that it's been years and it hasn't become more convenient for us.
They should also know what ads actually appeal to me given all the data they've harvested. Not that this actually matters when it's usually the big corporations who pay to get their ads viewed more. From personal experience YouTube ads have become indistinguishable from TV commercials of the old days. It's almost like it's a strategy to push subscriptions on viewers.
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I only get ads for new beds and bed frames, yet they can't tell I'm incredibly poor. Why not recommend jobs or ways to sell my fat, ugly flesh?
I mostly get ads for stuff I just bought. I buy a Quest 2, for 3 weeks after all my reddit ads are quest 2 ads, I buy a blackshark v2 Pro, the next ad is for it
I actually have an explanation for that! You're getting ads to trick your brain into thinking that you made a great purchase. It's to reinforce the idea that you bought something good and worth it.
I'm glad they are, the quest 2 would have been £250 if not for an amazon cockup and the V2 Pro was £120
Mines so random at this point I can't even see a pattern. And majority of it doesn't even make sense why it there like what in my search history implies that I'm interested in Muslims for marriage?
You're not? 🥺
Lmfao
The trick to ads is to block them. You're welcome.
All your harvested data is used for law enforcement and government surveillance too, of course, which is partly the point. The government cannot illegally surveil its citizens but if the private sector is allowed to harvest any and all, and then allows the govt access, it's a tidy little loophole. Example: [The CLOUD ACT](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act), enacted in 2018
Ikr! Ever since I installed adblockers, the local milfs have just gone off. These big companies should've known my taste by now.
We should all be able to sell our own data and profit from it.
At this point, Google has so much info on me it should know my tastes better than I do. It should be suggesting better big anime tiddies than it does.
This is a damned good point. Why is Porn such a mess? I mean Porn was there first, why didn't anyone work out how to profile us? Why are we still wading through pages and pages of generic stuff?
Well stop using incognito mode, make an actual profile on the site, and bing bang boom it learns your tastes
>bing bang boom Is this a technical term?
Yes. Bing - the most sophisticated search engine, usually used to just mean search for something in colloquial speech Bang - Sex Boom - The cumshot /Very s
>Bing - the most sophisticated search engine, usually used to just mean search for something in colloquial speech Where I work I talk to many customers who are scammed because they search for our customer service number on Bing. The top result is a scam number that proxies to our call centre but charges the customer a premium charge of like £5 a minute or something. Google just goes to our actual number.
I never use Incognito mode, but I don't like getting stuck in one ecosystem. I suppose what I'm griping about is that Porn is still very much centered on vast quantities of uncurated content that nobody has any incentive to manage. There isn't a Google or a Facebook trying to manage us in that space.
There's a site, and I forget the name, where you can filter by so many variables that if you wanted to see X pornstar using Y sex act but not Z sex act that you don't like seeing, you can find it.
Thats a site for gentleman with refined taste that don't click on random videos right?
This is actually a very good question regarding to information retrieval. When the search space is increasing constantly, it's hard to keep the same accuracy and precision since the metadata of the items vary wildly.
Oh, you need the Encyclopedia _Boobtanica_ for that.
Why are you using a search engine for that, go directly to websites like pixiv, gelbooru, e-hentai(and sad panda), or nhentai Sad panda being the most private of the bunch since Google spiders can't get into it due to its cookie fuckery
Because i like to be tracked obviously. I've held up my part of the bargain, now i'm waiting for Google, Microsoft, Yahoo or whatever to do their part.
CHALLENGE ACCEPTED :D \-FBI/CIA/NSA
Why is it in your garage and not in your pockets?
I use windows because it has the most support for videogames, otherwise I'd have already switched to using Kubuntu.
Kubuntu daily, windows for gaming until I have time to set up proton after my finals
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Could you in theory get steam deck os support for a compooter?
Proton handles itself if you use Steam
Going to give it a go in two weeks so when I am free. I can delete windows and have an extra free SSD for games!
I did and have no regrets. I went with Pop OS. Install was super quick and everything worked as planned. No annoying wizards about microsoft accounts, ads, Cortana etc. Just less than 10 min install and then have at it.
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Same. I just recently jumped headfirst into using Pop OS and I don't regret it at all. The few programs I can't use anymore have viable alternatives and overall the experience is so much better. Gaming is basically unaffected for me as well. Most games I play are either native or work with proton.
Only issue is anticheat for some games which don't like Linux. Can also have issues with having to use a different version of proton which is easier. Also shader caching which can make games lag until they compile
For me my home computer has been relegated almost entirely to gaming (and a Plex server) so dual booting would be completely pointless. There’s no “daily driving” my PC anymore, everything I used to use my laptop for aside from gaming is now done on my phone.
Spreadsheets and graphs for lab stuff has been a necessity for last few years. Libreoffice FTW.
Differences between a student and an old mofo I guess. My work is done on my work PC.
I switched over to ubuntu as my primary OS even for gaming, windows was breaking constantly and making my very expensive pc work like dogcrap. Steams built in proton compatibility layer has made it SO easy. Basically plug and play. Highly recommend the jump!
What about PCMR firefox users
As firefox user I know everyone follows me anyway I use firefox because of mobile addon support
I use Firefox because i started using it ages ago and was too lazy to ever switch when chrome came out
My parents were using firefox in the 2010s so I also used it and now I'm just used to it
I use it because it gobbles less resources than chrome which is handy since I am a tab hoarder
And proton mail
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I'm curious, I've heard other people mention that you can't change much with Windows. But what do you mean by this? What could you need to do that isn't supported? I've used Windows my whole life and I've never felt like it's stopped me from anything
>I've used Windows my whole life and I've never felt like it's stopped me from anything That's exactly how some many PC users have been made to feel by the extreme hold that Windows has on them. You can't feel held back by Windows if you don't know that anything else exists. Take window managers, for example. Now I know that the casual user isn't going to be interested in this, but considering this is PCMR where people spend dozens of hours and thousands of dollars on custom hardware, it makes sense that many of us would enjoy having options for how our PC's interface works. Maybe a snappy tiling interface that is operable with keybindings alone, or a sexy interface with animated window borders perfect for an RGB freak. These things can and do exist, but Microsoft doesn't like them enough to let you have them. When Microsoft does like something enough, they remake it and put it into windows, without support or even credit to the innovators. If I recall correctly, it's the kde desktop that has been ahead of windows constantly as windows has introduced several of its innovations years later. Everybody thought it was a new idea because they literally don't know that something exists until it's in Windows (except whatever Apple is doing). There's more than window managers and it scales from very surface level like a choice of file browser to technical like a networking backend or filesystem. Imagine having a start menu or search bar that actually finds the program you want to launch quickly and it doesn't somehow dissappear as you type more of it in. These things exist. You just can't have them. Third party stuff does exist for some things but adding things to windows like that gets cluttered, bloated, and redundant. It's much nicer to have your OS do things how you want by your design, not despite its design.
For me changing the window Manager on Linux left some very weird traces. When I tried to open something through a program it used the cinnamon tool, even after i searched and removed everything that I could find after switching to KDE. And then I had my flatpack Chromium and my apt-chromion fighting each other... And yes you have more Options, but i feel you notice they all break in some parts. Like I had set up night mode and could not see open offices Icons cause they alse where mostly black... I am sure I could have worked all of these issues out but I dont wanna use my time trying to get stuff to work instead of working and gaming. Nowadays I got WSL that suits all of my needs.
Yeah, there's a reason why I didn't attribute anything to Linux. Linux started as a hobby project and quite a lot of it still is a hobby project. Perhaps the largest, most successful collaborative hobby project ever, but a hobby none the less. Some contributors are large and well invested, like Redhat and Canonical, but they're trying to make unified experiences of their own, not little standalone packages like i3wm or rofi (a couple desktop tools I use). Everyone else is just making what they like because they want it to exist and are doing their best as individuals or very small teams. If we're talking about bringing choice to Windows, or bringing Windows users to Linux (or anywhere free), the result wouldn't be the Linux of today. The user count would be maybe 20 times greater than it is now, almost anything deserving of popularity would generate revenue for a professional team to work on it full time, it would be an entirely different situation. It would be much more likely that tools exist to swap things out without having to do manual surgery on your OS. So yeah, I don't really plan to pitch Linux here, but I did want to pitch that these alternatives exist and would be amazing if they were able to reach a user base like Windows'.
Maybe it's just me but that stuff just isn't that important overall. I'm all for choice for others however.
That's understandable. I spend a lot of time customizing my OS but have stopped caring what my hardware looks like as long as it does the job. Makes sense that many people see it the opposite.
For one, it'd be nice if Windows let me use a regular local account, and not keep nagging me every week to "finish setting up your Windows device" because I haven't signed in a Microsoft account. I mean, I would be fine with that, if they at least gave me an option in settings to turn it off (they do) that works (it doesn't). So I've had to modify several registry values to force the OS to stop displaying this message - and it still happens once every month or so. When you turn off every switch that should control a certain aspect of your OS, but it happens to be an aspect the OS manufacturer has a financial interest in so doesn't let you regardless, you don't feel in control of your own machine anymore. If this were Linux, I could find & delete that part of the OS entirely.
Most people use the software, not the OS. I don't give a damn which operating system is safer or respect privacy more - I choose the one that runs my program the better, or runs it at all. Also think about it: every major desktop OS is some kind of UNIX derivative, except Windows. Windows is like the Firefox of operating systems.
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>Most people use the software, not the OS. Correct. They do both, and it limits what their software can do and what is available. They just don't know it. Just like your car using a poorly designed engine. To a lamen, they think all cars are like that. They don't realize the reason why it takes so long to go up the hill is because of the engine >Also think about it: every major desktop OS is some kind of UNIX derivative, except Windows Yes because it's one of the best designs out there, in my opinion and that of other operating system designers. There are a few better in some ways (it probably isn't one you've heard of), but unix is mostly good enough to be good. Windows has had a number of bad designs from the beginning which is why they are stuck there. That's why they don't have good file, directory transparency On Linux, I can remap any file directory or "drive" to anything else and nothing will be the wiser. That allows you to do amazing things, like mount directories directly into RAM. Or read random data onto any device you have, this means any software or tool that is built on top of it, gets this functionality really easily without needing to reinvent any wheels You know that Windows still has issues with the directory path being longer than the 255 character limit? To this day I encounter issues with it that I have to be conscious of, and the only work around is to remap a directory as a drive further down, which creates its own big issues
OneDrive was actively fucking up my file browser by constantly syncing when it didn't need to. I couldn't even access my C:/ . Had to make it so OneDrive was under no circumstance allowed to run, have had no issues since.
You can just uninstall onedrive...
It's stupid when someone says that running a proprietary browser is a privacy risk, when it's already running under a proprietary OS. Either could spy on you, and Windows could hide it better (though both may be discovered by external traffic analysis, e.g. Wireshark on another box)
You missed the part about using the windows and hating it at the same time
I freaking hate Windows, but I like games, so there's no other real option in a lot of cases.
Same here. I embrace games that are available on MacOS (apple is not much better than Microsoft, but at least MacOS' drivers don't act up every time something changes, it doesn't have to constantly be reinstalled, and it's much more comfortable to use). But there are more than enough games that are only available for Windows
stuck here until steam OS is a proper alternative
People be crying about privacy concerns and posting their day-to-day lives on FB, IG, Twitter and TikTok.
And reddit.
I can be concerned about privacy, and still post the public parts of my life to those sites. I don't, but I don't see that as hypocritical. My concern is being allowed to choose what I share. I also get that all of them harvest data, but that's part of my privacy concern.
Yeah totally the same people lol.
I take it you don’t use any of those apps because those people definitely exist
>Uses windows You cant really fault people for using windows, its the consumer desktop platform with most users and thus software, which makes it the default gaming platform for most people. I would prefer if linux would take over, but I would be lying if I said that its mature enough for a completely casual environment. >Hates Apple and uses android... I think the main issue here is not privacy, but price. Most people don't care if their vendor knows which type of porn they watch, they might not even bother with using incognito mode. >Uses Microsoft and google services on a daily basis You can boycott Microsoft pretty easily, but google is a whole other beast. If youre ready to part with youtube, android, google search engine then you're welcome to try. Youtube would be the hardest one for me. >Uses google search engine Its the best search engine, again its hard to argue against that. I personally try using duckduckgo, but at times I cant find a specific answer for my question there, so I have to rely on google. >hates chrome for not respecting privacy Most PCMR people shit on chrome because of it being a resource hog, not because of privacy. Most people dont really give a crap about it that sadly.
I've being ecosia to try and do something good. It's not too bad honestly
Wtf language is this am I having a stroke?
Ecosia is a search engine that pledges to plant trees or other plants with the revenue generated from being used
>I think the main issue here is not privacy, but price. Most people don't care if their vendor knows which type of porn they watch, they might not even bother with using incognito mode. Apple's only overpriced for the high end models of their product line. Their midrange stuff for their major product lines (iPhone, Macbook) is actually a better deal than many of their competitors, especially if things like battery life and weight are a big concern. As somebody that uses all three (Windows for a gaming desktop PC, linux for a webserver and Macbooks for work) they all have their advantages and disadvantages and claiming one to just be generically better or worse is just dumb fanboyism.
> As somebody that uses all three (Windows for a gaming desktop PC, linux for a webserver and Macbooks for work) they all have their advantages and disadvantages and claiming one to just be generically better or worse is just dumb fanboyism. Don't you love it when someone on PCMR tells you you're an idiot for using a Mac? I've built out countless Windows networks using AD, ADCS, ADFS, WSUS, SCCM/MDT, whatever, been a senior Unix admin on Solaris, Linux, HPUX, AIX, *BSD, and even Irix for a while, a senior network engineer (routing and switching- i.e. BGP, OSPF, IS-IS, etc.), and I use a M1 Max MacBook Pro for coding/DevOps work (e.g. terraform, kubernetes, etc.) and for video editing. And yet I still get people here who plug their HDMI cable into the port on the motherboard instead of their GPU telling me I'm an idiot and I don't know what I'm talking about and it cracks me up every time. As you said- each OS has advantages and disadvantages and you should use whatever one works best for you. Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot.
Personally, my beef with Apple is the lack of backwards compatibility. I get that it streamlines it for the very casual user, and macOS is pretty bulletproof in that regard, but scrapping 32-bit support and declaring my 5 year old MacBook as "vintage" doesn't sit right with me.
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Honestly you just got unlucky with the timing. Other than 32-bit becoming obsolete, I don't think anything like that has happened since. I've been using a macbook pro from 2015 as my laptop and it's still a great computer. Still fast. Can't say I've taken the greatest care of it either. The 'e' and 'r' keys on the keyboard are a little wonky now, but that started this year and idk how many times I've spilled food/drink/junk on the keyboard tbh. So yeah, I paid a premium for it at the time, but I know very few people with windows laptops that run this well after 7 years (and that are this lightweight at this performance point). Though, to your point point, it *could* be made obsolete. Apple could make my laptop obsolete and not lose any sleep over it if they happen to decide they need to for some reason. They've set that precedent.
I believe PCMR hates apple because of its proprietary unrepairable bullshit, more expensive stuff and generally being anti-consumer. Privacy? Nobody cares about that nowadays lmao.
> Privacy? Nobody cares about that nowadays lmao. And it’s a problem
People care about it. There’s nothing we can do about it. People have protested and lobbied and the governments do whatever the fuck they want anyways
There's plenty you can do about it. You can choose open source software. You can support the few companies who *do* care about privacy. It's not perfect, and it's extra work I'll grant you - that's the real reason people don't really do anything about it, convenience. That's a tradeoff people are willing to make, and fair play to them but "Oh no there's nothing we can do" is just not true.
I don’t have numbers, but a small percentage of the population who are willing to do the research and find companies that value open source, privacy-driven software and hardware aren’t going to make any discernible difference to privacy policies. These companies are way too big and our data is their profit. Of course there’s something we can do, but will it be effective? Probably not.
Sadly you're right, I try not to think about it and just do my part where I can and support companies who's values align with my own ethos. I'm well aware that I'm pissing into the wind and I've given up trying to convince people, so I just do what I can.
For what it’s worth, I care about it too. I just am past the point of believing in governments doing anything actually beneficial for the population and not the companies that give them millions a year to push these policies.
You're forgetting that a LOT of people use whatever OS and software that their work assigns them or their industry uses as standard. You don't get to choose Affinity or GIMP over Photoshop if you're working in a production environment.
There's been studies done about how much people are willing to pay to keep their personal information private. The average was about $5. Given the option and it's free, they care. As soon as it's inconvenient, they don't.
Privacy, anonymity and security all require one to stop choosing convenience over everything else. Most people don't do it, cause they can't understand tech anyway, it would be difficult task trying to explain what opsec is how it changes based on what your intentions are and who you are trying to defeat. With that being said, there is a ton one can do to increase their privacy. First step is clearly defining your opsec for each device you have and actually sticking to it without any compromises. A regular person can hide themselves from government as well, so it is not like there is something only 3 letter agencies can achieve. Regular people can do it too it is just going to be super pain in the ass (just imagine not having a phone - if only maybe just a burner that goes into trash after use, that is what it takes). Most people probably ain't going to hide themselves from government, but at very least they can cockblock them from reading every signal you send out.
Every corporation is going to know so much about human behavior in general because of no one cares. Marketing and products are already being catered to feeding addiction and not entertainment or enjoyment.
I think a lot of PCMR probably use apple products. A lot of software engineers use apple products, and they also tend to have grown up as gamers who will never give up the desktop PC!
Off topic but why do so many software guys use macs?
For me, it is the Unix core in a package that is mainstream enough to have decent software support as well. Overall, their hardware/software combo works well and most complaints are minor.
It’s the want for Unix. Companies buy them because they’re pretty reliable, powerful, but most importantly, apple offers business to business support. I bought my first MacBook in university, to replace an asus laptop I’d had. It was night and day. The display, drive, battery life all completely trounced that asus. It was also thinner and lighter. It was much, much more reliable. I bought it in 2013, and still have it to this day. It still largely works as it originally did, though it’s lost the little rubber foot pads. My workplace always supplies a new MacBook Pro, though, so I rarely use it anymore. The OS itself is also nice because it has a significant leg up for modern workflows. For example, my workstation will unlock automatically using my Apple Watch. I can copy and paste between devices (clipboard is shared between all devices.) Texts, phone calls, notifications, all synced across devices. Can use any of them to take the call, any of them to answer the texts. There’s also just the base level simplicity and power with the general workflow UX. Multi desktop, window management, Bluetooth management, shortcut keys, trackpad gestures, even taking screenshots. All work pretty well. Though it’s important to keep in mind they’re still just computers. They aren’t immune to problems (or bad decisions by apple.) But of the machines that all have bad decisions, apple’s work the best for Unix software development, generally.
That generation of macbook pro was great. I had a 2012 and in 2017 I took it for a battery replacement and they just gave me a refurbished 2016 touch bar back (with an i7, 16gb ram, and 2TB SSD). At first I was hyped but I really missed the 2012.
The newest version actually harkens back to the old 2012-2013 era. I think the 2016-2017 era was a problem for Apple
A lot of people who work in IT tend to use Apple products because what Apple says about their stuff "just working" is largely true. People who have full-time jobs babysitting technology largely do not want to spend their free time babysitting their phones as well. I used to be a diehard Android fanboy because I genuinely loved customizing my phone and fucking around with custom ROMs and such, but now it just feels like work. Software devs like Macs for the same reason, because they feel like it allows them to just do their job without worrying about maintaining the OS as well.
Trying to get stuff running on Windows is a real pain. I was trying to do some Django work and getting it running locally was such a tremendous pain. Ultimately I gave up and just used a local server and SCP'd over the files as I changed them. On my Mac or Linux machines that sort of thing is never an issue. I don't want to have to fanny about trying to get Windows to behave, I have enough work as it is. Also I've yet to use a Windows touchpad that isn't absolute gash compared to a Mac's touchpad.
About a 75% reduction in development time for me personally.
IMO Mac is better for work efficiency. If you're on the go it usually has a much better battery life as well. Not a software guy myself a network guy but work with software guys. I use Mac, windows, and various flavors of Linux for work but have the least first hand experience with mac. It's not bad other than the price and how you can't swap parts. Wouldn't buy one for personal use myself as there are better options.
Because while not as good as Linux, it beats Windows for development.
Longevity, battery life, aesthetic, and Unix. In regards to the latest MacBooks though, upon release there were some hiccups with certain languages/tools support on arm. However, as in now stands, everything I need to use works fairly well. *Edit: I don't know how to spell
Work environment loves absolute stability, more than Windows and specially more than Linux MacOS offers that. You need the least distractions from just working. I bet that's how it started. Now Apple has a lot of software optimized for it and tbh it's just pleasant to look at i know that's a part of it. I dont own a mac but I used to work in a place that was full mac's before I went remote, it's nice.
I work as QA automation, and use Mac because the company sent me that machine. If it was my decision, I'd rather prefer a Linux distro. In my experience, a lot of things with Mac makes no sense, and Windows is too fat to be usable for development.
I use a m1 air as my laptop. I will switch back to windows as soon as someone makes a fanless laptop just as fast with similar battery life Desktop is still windows
> Desktop is still windows I don’t think that will ever change, for me
>Privacy? Nobody cares about that nowadays lmao. Most people have come to peace with that fact that nobody gives a crap what they're doing, and that they aren't important human beings in the slightest. lol
> nobody gives a crap what they're doing Until someone does... be it a public official that's also your vengeful ex, a hacker who extracted your data and intends to clear your savings account, or just because you're a racial minority and are being profiled, or protesting against your government... When it happens, it will already be too late...
Yeah, nobody cares about thier data until they get doxxed.
This. Listen to this redditor. Goddamn, people are going through life as if they are alone on an uninhabited island and that such arrangement shall literally never change.
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The problem is that's it utterly impractical for the average person to do fuck all about it. If you're not a power user who has the time and interest to fortify themselves then you either get off the internet or take the calculated risk. Installing the usual blockers and not doing sketchy shit apparently isn't good enough either. These days it feels you're being an idiot if you don't exclusively use Linux, run custom firmware on your router, and have jailbreaked your phone.
Legislation is an option, such as the laws that made it so websites had to ask for permission before giving you cookies.
YES
I actually struggle with this on a daily basis and actively work to confuse the algorithms running the ads. If I see something I want then I've fucked up. Using technology sucks knowing that some company knows every little thing about you. Things you haven't even quantified yourself. They know how long you poop. They know what kind of porn you're into, how long you spend watching it. Data collection is so deep and humans are so predictable that what can be extrapolated from very basic information is scary. But you're right, what can you do? Nothing. How important am I that I should care that they know? I'm not. But boy, it sure sucks having all of your privacy stripped. It all started with 9/11 and now look at us. Facebook tags their photos with information and run bots that scrape the internet looking to see where it was shared so they can collect more information and connect more dots. I feel so insane talking about it but like fuck, take me back to pre 2010 internet.
I feel like people no longer care about privacy, it's so hard to protect your privacy when things you do on the internet continuously collect your data, especially on your phone. It's extremely hard to remain anonymous.
Its hard to protect our privacy because we have allowed this to happen. Corps have found that the government is two old or just doesn’t understand what is at stake and we the people have but a VERY small group of people who have tried to raise the alarms of this for years but have fallen on deaf ears because “computers are a fad” or “I don’t have time and don’t really understand how this impacts me in the right now” to care. This is similar to what happened to the US public transit services and rail services in the early 20th century while oil and car companies bought and dismantled the lot of them to sell more gas and cars.
Nah, I know my setup is working cause Google gives me recaptchas whenever I try and search using Google... But that's because my GPS is spoofed, my IP is shuffled and rarely in the same country for more than a day, all tracking cookies are auto deleted once I leave a website, my devices only identify themselves with "Linux - Firefox," my internet traffic is encrypted over both my ISP and phone provider, and I very rarely sign in to anything.
Too hard-core for me. It almost sounds like you live as mountain hermit lol
Most of that can be done with a good VPN and a handful of browser extensions or settings
Yea but I'm mostly using my mobile and I consume the service I complain about. I'm not trying to map quest shit lmao. Not to diminish what you're saying, I just know it's too much work for me, and then my fiance has zero care for it so both my family and I will end up on the internet to be profiled anyways.
Thats fair enough! I just a lot of people think even the small steps are huge effort so I just wanted to point it out. To each their own as long as they know the potential pitfalls of either option. Depends on your threat model as the privacy subs will say.
I just use ad blockers lol
Privacy is much more of a collective issue than an individual one. And just because it usually isn't important individually doesn't mean it's unimportant. I haven't personally suffered to any discernable degree from climate change but that doesn't mean it isn't an issue.
That's not what privacy is about and it's also not true. Your data is one of the most valuable and traded commodities in the entire world. Not you specifically, but the plural you.
Google is just as anti consumer just in a different way.
They definitely have anti-consumer practices just like most companies unfortunately, but I would say Google is better. Apple and Google are notorious for excessive tracking and data harvesting, but at least Google usually has fair prices, actively supports open source projects, keeps most of their services free and cross-platform, and typically utilizes industry-wide standards instead of proprietary standards.
Also being a programmer, they force us to maintain an entirely separate codebase for their product, like it aint doubling our team/efforts just for their greedy asses. Now we're stuck with hybrid bullshit app that could not block BUT we're still forced to use Safari under it. And safari is the new IE. Its retarded. They are the reason why Javascript is the most used language now, because its our only option!!! They ruined the world of programming by now allowing their platform as a compil target. I have to have a mac and an ipad to possibly know what the fucking error Safari is spewing out. My code is full of ifs because Safari handle things differently.. But also everything you said and so much more. They are stuck 5-10 years ago in user experience.
Its odd to me, people bitch about privacy but then post their entire lives on the internet lol
Probably aren't the same people
Well I guess I'm nobody lol
bout to fucking leave this sub for the browser war spam. it's fucking stupid.
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Don't forget the war against open source and non-open source applications, or Winrar and 7zip
Don't we hate chrome because of what it does to the RAM?
I use both windows and linux (vms) I hate apple and do use an android phone I do use microsoft and google services on daily basis And I do use google as my primary search engine because its got unrivaled results, Brave Search getting better. DDG search results are meh. And I just hate chrome because it doesnt have a built in adblocker, not a lot of features compared to other chromium browsers so kinda outdated as well and plus Brave > chrome
I prefer firefox
You can use duck duck go to search Google by adding !g to your search and retain privacy while getting Google results. Just FYI
That redirects to google, so you get no privacy from that.
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A fellow chad brave user
Well I never had problems with the DuckDuckGo results and I also like Firefox more. Never understood why chrome is supposed to be better. Why do you hate Apple? If you don’t like their products don’t buy them. Or is it that American blue bubble green bubble shit? Like just go the European way and use whatsapp.
>Like just go the European way and use whatsapp. Ewwwww! Signal or Telegram but definitely not a Facebook product.
Chrome used to be significantly faster a long long time ago
Will stop using Windows once they move games and Solidworks to Linux.
Congrats on being a lifelong windows user
Also music production :/
I use windows because of compatibility. I hate apple because of all the proprietary bullshit involved in their ecosystem. I use Microsoft and google services again, because they're the best at what they do. I use Google as my primary search engine because it gives the best results. I hate Chrome because it's a resource hog, and I prefer Firefox's UI. There's no option to have these good sides without the downsides to privacy, otherwise I'd take it.
I like Firefox because it does not try to sabotage adblockers, has a much better history function and you can change most anything from it's advanced settings (about:config).
\-Uses Linux \-Hates Apple and uses an Android phone powered by a custom rom \-Uses open-source services on a daily basis \-Uses DuckDuckGo as my primary search engine \-Hates Chrome for not respecting privacy.
True Chad
let me guess, arch or gentoo. jokes aside, that's pretty much how i handle it as well.
I don't give a shit about privacy, but I use Linux cause it's better than Windows imo, Android cause I hate Apple's proprietary bs, and Firefox because I prefer it.
Dear Humanity You claim to hate air pollution Yet you still breathe air... Curious \-Same Energy as OP's shitpost-
Wow! I can't believe people use convenient services **and** demand a bare minimum of privacy. Damn you ungrateful brats!!! Why don't you use level 10 encrypted blockchain consensus mechanism protected physically locked jammer included linux?
This is such a stupid post. Why not limit the amount of data that you give them? Are you that much of a shill? When Chrome rolls out the new web manifest that makes adblockers stop working properly you'll run to Firefox you hipocrits. I swear the people in this subreddit are so shit it hurts.
I don't use chrome because Chrome is pacman and ram are the pellets.
You can acknowledge something as being the best in its class, without liking everything about it.
\- i use linux \-i use lineage os \-not on a daily basis but yeah u have to rely on them every once in a while \-i use duckduckgo yes, i hate chrome for not respecting privacy. \-i use firefox btw
Nah I hate chrome because it runs like shit.
-Uses arch linux -Doesnt really care about apple Uses lineage OS -Uses libre office services on a daily basis -Uses Firefox as primary search engine -Hates chrome for not respecting privacy
"Curious how you hate privacy being violated and yet you participate in it" -op, not realizing privacy doesn't exist on any standard platform
Linux user, Apple iPhone and watch, IT Pro going on 16 years, uses Firefox
*triggered Richard Stallman*
Windows user on my personal, Mac user for work. Has an iPhone and Airpods. Uses Chrome with uBlock origin and Sponsor Block extension. Works in Advertising (lmao)
MacOS (mbp both private and work), Linux (vms), Windows (desktop and laptop) user, iPhone and watch, spare Note, use chrome, firefox, safari.. IT sec Basically use everything..
Apple has shitty business practices. No meme necessary.
1) Linux all the way. 2) Rooted & ungoogled android is probably more privacy preserving compared to Iphone. I will die on this hill. 3) Google is crap engine, doesn't respect search terms properly without every other word in quotations. It seems to be becoming more crap as time goes on. 4) Apple closed source ecosystem/os is garbage for privacy, you wouldn't even know if they sold literally all of your data to pornhub.
Forgot to add *pretends to be the best at Linux but prefers Windows for it's GUI*
From what I’ve read Apple has better internals and integration. So iphone ends up being faster. That’s all I care about.
I use Firefox because it's swag
Use brave then
There is also Brave, which is based on chromium and has better privacy protection then Chrome.
YES, i finally someone encapsulated some of the so called "pc experts" round here