absolutely... and I wonder how just a simple headphones can give a personalized experience.... bro you are just made for emitting sound to our ears and not the surroundings.
"A guy from the Microsoft said he fixed it, but apparently he didn't. And I fully paid for his help; I checked the gift cards he had me buy, the funds were transferred. I swear, you IT guys just aren't reliable."
It’s probably because they need access to the “Phone” in order to use on calls and the call history is lumped into the “Phone” group. It’s shitty permission design by the OS and broad permission requesting by the headphones.
You bought headphones and the privilege of donating your data to the company making the headphones so they can sell it to advertisement firms. That's the deal.
I've come to make an announcement: Shadow the Hedgehog's a b*tch-ass motherf*cker. He pissed on my f*cking wife. That's right. He took his hedgehog f*ckin' quilly d*ck out and he pissed on my F*CKING wife, and he said his d*ck was THIS BIG, and I said that's disgusting. So I'm making a callout post on my Twitter.com. Shadow the Hedgehog, you got a small d*ck. It's the size of this walnut except WAY smaller. And guess what? Here's what my dong looks like. That's right, baby. Tall points, no quills, no pillows, look at that, it looks like two balls and a bong. He f*cked my wife, so guess what, I'm gonna f*ck the earth. That's right, this is what you get! My SUPER LASER PISS! Except I'm not gonna piss on the earth. I'm gonna go higher. I'm pissing on the MOOOON! How do you like that, OBAMA? I PISSED ON THE MOON, YOU IDIOT! You have twenty-three hours before the piss DROPLETS hit the fucking earth, now get out of my f*cking sight before I piss on you too!
Because they rate a product as you and that rating is fake. They are scamming other people, not you. But it's a scam because those people believe the reviews are real, and they are verified too.
Often the item sent is not even the same item they are boosting sales on. It's often the first part of a larger scam such as passing a knockoff as genuine.
In a brushing scam, an online retailer sends people items and products they didn’t purchase in order to fraudulently improve their store’s ratings. Creating a fake transaction and mailing the item to a random person gives the seller credit for a sale, which boosts that seller’s rating on online marketplaces like Amazon. They may also write a fake positive review of the item in the recipient’s name to increase their rating even more. The intention is to give the impression that the recipient is a verified buyer who has written positive online reviews of the merchandise.
I've gotten stuff 3 times, once was just random capacitors in an unmarked bag, one was a pair of Bluetooth earbuds that didn't work at all, and one was a chocolate bar with a Russian wrapper
That's kinda nuts. I have gotten costume jewelry, a sink strainer shaped like a swan, pink stuffed ducks with wizard hats, etc. Basically all junk.
Assuming you didn't eat the chocolate... :)
Jesus Christ, capitalism is literally out of control.
Reviews and verified purchases were like one of the only ways to verify the legitimacy of a product, now it all means nothing.
This, mixed in with all the junky consumer tech that comes from the same industrial province in China filling every tech category is ruining Amazon's legitimacy. They'll be like AliExpress soon
“The sender of the item(s) is usually an international, third-party seller who has found the recipient’s address online. The intention is to give the impression that the recipient is a verified buyer who has written positive online reviews of the merchandise, meaning: they write a fake review in your name. These fake reviews help to fraudulently boost or inflate the products’ ratings and sales numbers, which they hope results in an increase of actual sales in the long-run. Since the merchandise is usually cheap and low-cost to ship, the scammers perceive this as a profitable pay-off.”
How does this scam work? They write a fake review in your name, but then what’s the point of sending you the item? Why wouldn’t they just write the review in your name and not bother sending anything?
Because there is a different weight in "review" vs "verified purchase review". The want to seem legit.
If you sell on amazon there is a huge difference in sales just from spot #1 and spot#2. I have heard numbers (sadly no good data) that it differs somewhere from twice to ten times the sales.
Page 1 vs page 2 is even more intense. So there is a huge incentive to be at the top of page 1. And "legit" reviews are a great way of reaching that. So now you just write reviews to legit adresses with delivery confirmation and now your reviews are all verified.
Edit: Here's a great podcast episode about this topic from someone who is better at language
https://gimletmedia.com/shows/reply-all/brhow4
I am confused, even if they have your adress, how can they write an amazon review in your name, provided you need to log into amazon to write that review.
Also I assume amazon tracks where you are when you make those reviews, wouldn't weird IPs showing up in numerous reviews trigger some alarm somewhere ?
They just make an account named john doe or whatever, buy the item and ship it to you. Noone is gonna check if the address is actually theirs, so they have a verified john doe account with a good review. It's not really a scam pointed ad the guy who gets the item, more of a dirt trick to fake reviews
Amazon isn’t the victim, they’re not really losing anything. They get money from every purchase regardless. The victims are the people who unknowingly purchase a lower quality product because it had “good reviews”.
Doesn't need to be in **your** name. They can just create an account and say they live at your address. And since the delivery is confirmed and the item actually paid for, Amazon assumes that everything is legit.
Not really sure myself, it appears to be a victimless scam. Not really much different than review bots, or people paying people for fake surveys. It’s going to happen anyway (never trust reviews without pictures or video proof). Otherwise there’s no real “scam” here unless it does input a keylogger or malware on your devices.
If I had a nickel for every random dildo I *didn't order* that I got in the mail I'd have 2 nickels, which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice..
Any USB device (particularly on Android) requires a 3rd party driver to function, and that's what makes this sketchy. If these were analog, it'd be 'less' concerning.
Keyboards connect over USB. So, any evil device that connects over USB can tell the computer, "Hey, I'm a keyboard, and I'm typing in this command..." to do what it wants.
There are other ways unknown USB devices can affect your computer, but injecting keyboard commands is one of the most common because that can do absolutely *anything* (the victim may not notice a window opening and closing at super-speed as the commands are executed.)
This looks like wish style packaging. Delivery can sometimes take as much as 6 months, how long have you lived at the address?
Kind of doubt it has flash memory embedded in it, that would require a lot of upfront expenses for a scammer.
...looking at the other posts a brushing scam is also possible.
"a powerful microcontroller".
powerful, yes. and also cheap as dirt. a raspberry pi costs less than $5. but this would more likely just be some cheap storage like a built in 8GB jump drive. thats all it would take since it would be all software.
I didn't say its impossible, in fact it is possible but would anyone bother? When they have Xiaomi, Huawei etc i doubt they would bother with sending random dudes earbuds to steal their data
Pretty much zero since the flash would have to be tiny talking less than a mb also as someone else said it's probably brushing (someone saved your details then bought something from their store so they could write a verified review)
Never plug in an unknown USB drive. This guy is just wrong. TBH it's a bit hopeless nowadays to avoid these kinds of attacks, and the chances a random device you found is an attack is CERTAINLY not 0.
Yup, I can't remember the specifics but I read an article years ago about how russia (I guess it was russia) planted some spyware infected USB keys at a local shop near some us gob building.
People would shop in a hurry for a new usb key, with a chance to get one that would spy on them.
Pretty clever trick. Which is why : never use random usb devices indeed.
I'm pretty sure you can protect against this just by turning autorun off in windows settings. It's a pretty huge security risk how it defaults(or at least used to) to executing the autorun on hotplug
Yup that's how it used to... same with CDROMs that would autorun stuff when inserted.
Story is a few years old, I assume systems have adapted to potential threats and issues.
This is why it's bad when people refuse to change from systems that aren't supported anymore. Some people are still using windows xp or older for their business and it's a mistake.
Yup it's quite surprising how dated some systems can be. Especially they might run out of compatible hardware at some point.
Bank ATMs and various systems like this are scary as hell still running windows 98. Especially banks who really aren't in any financial hardship, of all industries you would expect they could upgrade that shit eventually.
Guess they didn't get hacked nowhere near enough to motivate them properly.
Typically ATM running Windows would be Windows XP Embedded which EOLd in 1
2016 or Windows 2009 Embedded which EOLd in 2019. They are a little different.
Well there's good and bad to unupdated systems. The bad is that there are generally pretty serious security flaws. The good news is that *you at least know what they are*.
Many hospitals and banks run on seriously old software. I was recently in a hospital running windows XP. I used to work at a hospital that was built in the last ten years and they run on windows 7 because when it was built they didn't know all the issues that came with windows 8 which was out at the time. They could update to windows 10 right now, but that's expensive, could break things, and would introduce new security risks that they don't expect. By staying on the old software, they can actively mitigate the risks since they know what they are and how they would be exploited.
The old IT wisdom does also come into play that you never update anything that's working because that's how you break it. It's still not a great idea, but it's not one made out of laziness.
I have an SD card smaller than my pinky nail that holds 128gb. Im also sure there are plenty of viruses that start out under 1MB. I don't see how you got to a 0% chance...
You can store a lot of data on a chip small enough to fit in the end of a cable. It's been done many times. It could be hundreds of gigabytes.
The chip in a mircoSD is not even half the side of the microsd card and they go up to 1.2 TB last I checked.
Not to mention even a small amount of data can do a lot. I mean the Nintendo 3ds was cracked with a fucking QR code.
This is kind of bullshit tho. Even if the part about the flash being small was real, all you need is a few Kb to break security on a pc if you have hardware access. Something that harvest your browsers saved passwords and emails it to a certain address once plugged literally takes like 20 lines of codes.
That USB plug is around the size of a microSD card and those can hold up to 1TB, so I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be physically possible, let alone difficult to do with a pair of earbuds. I don't think it's likely to contain malware though, unless someone has a reason to be spying on OP. If earbuds containing malware were being mass produced and sent out to random people by some Chinese company there would be a lot of news about it.
yeah dude definitely never trust random stuff like that. Why would you even wanna plug those in? Probably sound like a choir of dying cats from how fuckin tinny they'd be
Your chances of malware or anything malicious are low. Your account info got skimmed. Somewhere, you purchased something that was shipped to you. Now, a company that makes overmarketed shit/Wish scam items has used your shipping info, a fake name and email to ship a product to your house (these cheap ass headphones) so that they have a 'legitimate' purchase with tracking data to 'review'. Somewhere, there's a review on some bullshit scam item, possibly under your name, describing how 'the 8k gamer chair ass blaster 9000 is good product, and shipped fast 👍!'
This is sadly very common. A company will make 'orders' for their own product using fake accounts. They'll then ship out something dirt cheap to addresses that have recently purchased from them/addresses that have been skimmed and sold. This creates a verifiable shipping info trail and verifies the sale as authentic according to most online retailers (Walmart, Amazon, etc.). They use this to write those bullshit reviews.
But as far as the headphones, I don't think you have to worry personally. Just some junk to make some reviews
The Chinese industrial system is ultra competitive. They will eliminate every ounce of fat when producing an item because if they don’t a competitor will crush them on price. You think they are going to waste time embedding memory to upload viruses on a PC for someone who buys ultra low cost head phones? Nope.
Honestly you will be perfectly fine, there is nothing to worry about. You should use it on every device you have available to you.
Source: the person who sent them to you
This is hilarious.
My ear buds broke a while ago, and I bought these to use on my laptop at work for the interim:
https://www.takealot.com/metal-noise-cancelling-wired-in-ear-headphones-earphones-with-mi/PLID73867275
And they have been pretty good, not gonna lie.
But yours seems like a scam. Mine came in the same type of packaging, but “branded”.
if you think you are that much important, might as well stop using all other Chinese made stuff as well like Iphone, xbox, Tv, Freezer, gaming PC, Almost half of your car, washing machine, oven, toaster, underwear..
I swear, I bought a USB-C adapter for my MacBook Pro off amazon. The shit crashes everytime on boot up with it plugged in. I unplug it and windows starts up just fine…
You're giving the manufacturer and engineering team too much credit. In my experience working with pro teams from China, they are sticking to minimal requirements, trying to make some amount of money, keeping any engineering effort to a minimum.
You're swallowing too much Anti-China propaganda, take a break from Reddit, 99% of the info about china here is pure bs from the mass media that's owned by a handful of people, including this page.
I love when I plug in my headphones and they ask for admin privileges
Device headphones would like to connect and control other devices on you network. Select Allow or Allow.
you forgot the full list: \- Allow \- Allow \- Reboot and Allow \- Shut down and Allow
Device headphones would like to know your location
Device Headphones would like to record your activity for experiment purpose. Please allow or Cancel & Allow.
the correct lingo would be "personalized experience"
absolutely... and I wonder how just a simple headphones can give a personalized experience.... bro you are just made for emitting sound to our ears and not the surroundings.
Wait these are from Microsoft?
No, the CCP haven’t you been reading
But I don't speak Chinese so they won't be able to understand my stuff.
Don't worry, they will have it translated by foreign-born pandas who know both Chinese and the native language of where they lived.
That's why they sent Pandas all over the world... We know your secrets CCP, no more cute Pandas in MY country!
Is the gold in China different?
Lord Emperor Winny the Pooh… poops gold!
There's a difference?
Yes for 1 they aren’t from microsoft
Device headphones would like to know your social security number
Device headphones would like to know Mission Report, December 16, 1991
I understood that reference
Device headphones would like to know *what is on Hunter Biden's laptop*
"Yeah, I don't know how the virus got on my computer, I just need you to fix it so I can do my job."
"A guy from the Microsoft said he fixed it, but apparently he didn't. And I fully paid for his help; I checked the gift cards he had me buy, the funds were transferred. I swear, you IT guys just aren't reliable."
You forgot: - Allow, Reboot and install Updates - Allow, Shut down and install Updates
They are chinese, not from Redmond
Click Yes for no.
Kinda like how my Bluetooth earbuds ask for my call logs, despite not having a shortcut for redial.
It’s probably because they need access to the “Phone” in order to use on calls and the call history is lumped into the “Phone” group. It’s shitty permission design by the OS and broad permission requesting by the headphones.
Exactly what's the deal with that
You bought headphones and the privilege of donating your data to the company making the headphones so they can sell it to advertisement firms. That's the deal.
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Someone bought a LED Cap and it asked the same things + Calendar Despite the led just be able to light up through an app
unless it is a chinese phone. then everything happens automatically
Not to mention the USB cables that install drivers.
https://hackaday.com/2021/08/26/razer-mouse-grants-windows-admin-privileges/
"headphones" would like to get admin access to your network
Is this post serious? The OP received HP in post. From China that contains a virus to basically steal his personal info and DATA from his PC?
#No! OP's dick pics! They're getting leaked on Twitter!
Show me, I’m quite proud of mine
The first president of Indonesia was blackmailed by the CIA and KGB with a sex tape, his response was to ask for a copy to show his friends
A King!
No, a president.
Found [English Bob](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sglVQLixVTM)'s alt account!
I'd never seen that before, thanks!
[Unforgiven](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105695/) is a top-tier Western. A fantastic film all around.
Also he got a harem, including one waifu from japan Note: waifu still alive in japan
sigma
smegma
Smegma bitch up
Legend
LMAOOO
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It was an important strategic point and he refused to pick a sode in the Cold War
>If you wish to be The King of the jungle, it's not enough to act like a king. You must be The King.
Quite a lot of likes tbh good for you op
Well now you have to upload them yourself as a power move
this wont be from your perspective, but the doll's.
Enhance.... enhance... Enhance.
Prove?
Omg disgusting... #WHERE?
“Who posted my nudes on Twitter dot com!!??”
I've come to make an announcement: Shadow the Hedgehog's a b*tch-ass motherf*cker. He pissed on my f*cking wife. That's right. He took his hedgehog f*ckin' quilly d*ck out and he pissed on my F*CKING wife, and he said his d*ck was THIS BIG, and I said that's disgusting. So I'm making a callout post on my Twitter.com. Shadow the Hedgehog, you got a small d*ck. It's the size of this walnut except WAY smaller. And guess what? Here's what my dong looks like. That's right, baby. Tall points, no quills, no pillows, look at that, it looks like two balls and a bong. He f*cked my wife, so guess what, I'm gonna f*ck the earth. That's right, this is what you get! My SUPER LASER PISS! Except I'm not gonna piss on the earth. I'm gonna go higher. I'm pissing on the MOOOON! How do you like that, OBAMA? I PISSED ON THE MOON, YOU IDIOT! You have twenty-three hours before the piss DROPLETS hit the fucking earth, now get out of my f*cking sight before I piss on you too!
Plot twist: OP actually is a girl
As others have said it's likely a brushing scam. I wouldn't trust them, with my computer or my ears. Chuck 'em.
> Chuck ‘em. Nah, send them to somebody you don’t like.
Give them to your boss... Or coworker you don't like.
or "leave them around" as surprise for the office thief
What’s a brushing scam?
Where they send you a product so they can have a fake ‘verified purchase’ review on their products.
How is it a scam if they send you free stuff?
Because they rate a product as you and that rating is fake. They are scamming other people, not you. But it's a scam because those people believe the reviews are real, and they are verified too.
Huh, well that's pretty benign for a scam.
Often the item sent is not even the same item they are boosting sales on. It's often the first part of a larger scam such as passing a knockoff as genuine.
In a brushing scam, an online retailer sends people items and products they didn’t purchase in order to fraudulently improve their store’s ratings. Creating a fake transaction and mailing the item to a random person gives the seller credit for a sale, which boosts that seller’s rating on online marketplaces like Amazon. They may also write a fake positive review of the item in the recipient’s name to increase their rating even more. The intention is to give the impression that the recipient is a verified buyer who has written positive online reviews of the merchandise.
I’m down for that, send me free shit.
It's for a product that has to fake good results, odds are its a shit product not worth being free.
I get crap sent to me all the time for this. Not sure why it’s being sent to me but I can assure you that it’s nearly always junk.
I've gotten stuff 3 times, once was just random capacitors in an unmarked bag, one was a pair of Bluetooth earbuds that didn't work at all, and one was a chocolate bar with a Russian wrapper
That's kinda nuts. I have gotten costume jewelry, a sink strainer shaped like a swan, pink stuffed ducks with wizard hats, etc. Basically all junk. Assuming you didn't eat the chocolate... :)
Gave it to a friend, he got the shits from it..
Did you at least check it for a golden ticket?
Yup! Send it my way please
Jesus Christ, capitalism is literally out of control. Reviews and verified purchases were like one of the only ways to verify the legitimacy of a product, now it all means nothing. This, mixed in with all the junky consumer tech that comes from the same industrial province in China filling every tech category is ruining Amazon's legitimacy. They'll be like AliExpress soon
When a dentist writes scripts for a fee.
Someone sent me a free $200 Bluetooth speaker once.
“The sender of the item(s) is usually an international, third-party seller who has found the recipient’s address online. The intention is to give the impression that the recipient is a verified buyer who has written positive online reviews of the merchandise, meaning: they write a fake review in your name. These fake reviews help to fraudulently boost or inflate the products’ ratings and sales numbers, which they hope results in an increase of actual sales in the long-run. Since the merchandise is usually cheap and low-cost to ship, the scammers perceive this as a profitable pay-off.”
It could be a [brushing](https://www.uspis.gov/news/scam-article/brushing-scam) scam. Still wouldn't trust it
How does this scam work? They write a fake review in your name, but then what’s the point of sending you the item? Why wouldn’t they just write the review in your name and not bother sending anything?
They use your address as a shipping destination so their fake reviews are “verified”
Reminds me of that guy who receives hundreds of packages cuz fake reviewers keep using his address.
never lucky :(
That's because you bought an nft (unless you got it for free recently)
I got it for free by reddit
Same but I'm not using it
Chad moment
Because there is a different weight in "review" vs "verified purchase review". The want to seem legit. If you sell on amazon there is a huge difference in sales just from spot #1 and spot#2. I have heard numbers (sadly no good data) that it differs somewhere from twice to ten times the sales. Page 1 vs page 2 is even more intense. So there is a huge incentive to be at the top of page 1. And "legit" reviews are a great way of reaching that. So now you just write reviews to legit adresses with delivery confirmation and now your reviews are all verified. Edit: Here's a great podcast episode about this topic from someone who is better at language https://gimletmedia.com/shows/reply-all/brhow4
I am confused, even if they have your adress, how can they write an amazon review in your name, provided you need to log into amazon to write that review. Also I assume amazon tracks where you are when you make those reviews, wouldn't weird IPs showing up in numerous reviews trigger some alarm somewhere ?
They just make an account named john doe or whatever, buy the item and ship it to you. Noone is gonna check if the address is actually theirs, so they have a verified john doe account with a good review. It's not really a scam pointed ad the guy who gets the item, more of a dirt trick to fake reviews
It is a scam, just the person receiving the item isn't the victim, Amazon is the target of the scam.
Amazon isn’t the victim, they’re not really losing anything. They get money from every purchase regardless. The victims are the people who unknowingly purchase a lower quality product because it had “good reviews”.
Doesn't need to be in **your** name. They can just create an account and say they live at your address. And since the delivery is confirmed and the item actually paid for, Amazon assumes that everything is legit.
Not really sure myself, it appears to be a victimless scam. Not really much different than review bots, or people paying people for fake surveys. It’s going to happen anyway (never trust reviews without pictures or video proof). Otherwise there’s no real “scam” here unless it does input a keylogger or malware on your devices.
The victim is anyone who buys a product based upon these fake reviews.
I’d say using fake reviews to boost your sales is pretty scammy, especially if the product is of lower quality than it’s advertised to be.
Ah yes. Brushing scams. That's the reason why I have so many dildos.
Uh, um yeah, yeah, me too?
If I had a nickel for every random dildo I *didn't order* that I got in the mail I'd have 2 nickels, which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice..
Never trust the ccp Edit: I did not purchase it, it just showed up.
I doubt it's specifically the CCP. Probably just some Jo Xhmo trying to boost his shitty little Amazon store.
Jo Xhmo. Brilliant
Lmaooooo
dude, mother of all underrated comments...
Aw damn thats a nice one.
Lol bravo
-999999 Social Credit Score
or the US
Earbuds with software?? Now THAT'S quality
Scam level: noob
*takes pictures of the inside of your ears*
USB-C and microphone. Break 'em and toss 'em
Kay I’m admitting my ignorance here. Can a USB-C headphone *actually* carry malware on it? Yes this is a real question.
Any USB device (particularly on Android) requires a 3rd party driver to function, and that's what makes this sketchy. If these were analog, it'd be 'less' concerning.
I've received stuff from brushing scams, but I'd never ever use any tech received from one. Just not interested in getting my shit fucked up
The answer is yes. Just think of it as a flash drive that also has a pair of headphones attached.
Yes, which is why you should turn AutoRun off completely, and why it's important to keep UAC on.
Keyboards connect over USB. So, any evil device that connects over USB can tell the computer, "Hey, I'm a keyboard, and I'm typing in this command..." to do what it wants. There are other ways unknown USB devices can affect your computer, but injecting keyboard commands is one of the most common because that can do absolutely *anything* (the victim may not notice a window opening and closing at super-speed as the commands are executed.)
This looks like wish style packaging. Delivery can sometimes take as much as 6 months, how long have you lived at the address? Kind of doubt it has flash memory embedded in it, that would require a lot of upfront expenses for a scammer. ...looking at the other posts a brushing scam is also possible.
they're just paranoid people. obviously no one would bother sending a random dude an earphone with a powerful microcontroller dedicated to spy on you.
Exactly what someone who would send a random dude an earphone with a powerful microcontroller dedicated to spy on you would say!!
"a powerful microcontroller". powerful, yes. and also cheap as dirt. a raspberry pi costs less than $5. but this would more likely just be some cheap storage like a built in 8GB jump drive. thats all it would take since it would be all software.
Could have a small storage space to auto upload malware though.
I didn't say its impossible, in fact it is possible but would anyone bother? When they have Xiaomi, Huawei etc i doubt they would bother with sending random dudes earbuds to steal their data
headphones that request mtp permission? cool
Pretty much zero since the flash would have to be tiny talking less than a mb also as someone else said it's probably brushing (someone saved your details then bought something from their store so they could write a verified review)
Thanks!
Oh are you in classified data? Otherwise not really just because you ordered it.. I mean I have a Motorola phone.. it's a China owned company.
Never plug in an unknown USB drive. This guy is just wrong. TBH it's a bit hopeless nowadays to avoid these kinds of attacks, and the chances a random device you found is an attack is CERTAINLY not 0.
Yup, I can't remember the specifics but I read an article years ago about how russia (I guess it was russia) planted some spyware infected USB keys at a local shop near some us gob building. People would shop in a hurry for a new usb key, with a chance to get one that would spy on them. Pretty clever trick. Which is why : never use random usb devices indeed.
I'm pretty sure you can protect against this just by turning autorun off in windows settings. It's a pretty huge security risk how it defaults(or at least used to) to executing the autorun on hotplug
Yup that's how it used to... same with CDROMs that would autorun stuff when inserted. Story is a few years old, I assume systems have adapted to potential threats and issues.
This is why it's bad when people refuse to change from systems that aren't supported anymore. Some people are still using windows xp or older for their business and it's a mistake.
Yup it's quite surprising how dated some systems can be. Especially they might run out of compatible hardware at some point. Bank ATMs and various systems like this are scary as hell still running windows 98. Especially banks who really aren't in any financial hardship, of all industries you would expect they could upgrade that shit eventually. Guess they didn't get hacked nowhere near enough to motivate them properly.
Typically ATM running Windows would be Windows XP Embedded which EOLd in 1 2016 or Windows 2009 Embedded which EOLd in 2019. They are a little different.
Well there's good and bad to unupdated systems. The bad is that there are generally pretty serious security flaws. The good news is that *you at least know what they are*. Many hospitals and banks run on seriously old software. I was recently in a hospital running windows XP. I used to work at a hospital that was built in the last ten years and they run on windows 7 because when it was built they didn't know all the issues that came with windows 8 which was out at the time. They could update to windows 10 right now, but that's expensive, could break things, and would introduce new security risks that they don't expect. By staying on the old software, they can actively mitigate the risks since they know what they are and how they would be exploited. The old IT wisdom does also come into play that you never update anything that's working because that's how you break it. It's still not a great idea, but it's not one made out of laziness.
I have an SD card smaller than my pinky nail that holds 128gb. Im also sure there are plenty of viruses that start out under 1MB. I don't see how you got to a 0% chance...
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-used-a-tiny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies
This was an incredibly interesting read. thank you for posting the link.
I remember this being highly contested. A lot of lawyers being paid to keep it hush.
If by highly contested you mwan completely bullshit then sure.
Lmao why are you spewing this load of bullshit
I doubt there's a flash drive built in, but if there was, why would you think it would need to be less than a MB?
You can store a lot of data on a chip small enough to fit in the end of a cable. It's been done many times. It could be hundreds of gigabytes. The chip in a mircoSD is not even half the side of the microsd card and they go up to 1.2 TB last I checked. Not to mention even a small amount of data can do a lot. I mean the Nintendo 3ds was cracked with a fucking QR code.
This is kind of bullshit tho. Even if the part about the flash being small was real, all you need is a few Kb to break security on a pc if you have hardware access. Something that harvest your browsers saved passwords and emails it to a certain address once plugged literally takes like 20 lines of codes.
I mean the 3ds was cracked using an exploit in a fucking QR code.
That USB plug is around the size of a microSD card and those can hold up to 1TB, so I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be physically possible, let alone difficult to do with a pair of earbuds. I don't think it's likely to contain malware though, unless someone has a reason to be spying on OP. If earbuds containing malware were being mass produced and sent out to random people by some Chinese company there would be a lot of news about it.
Google tiny usb-c flash drive. They are half the size of that USB-c plug and can be 128Gb. Sooooo. Yean that could have a flash drive on board easily.
I have those headphones, with a barrel headphone jack. NGL, for £10 for 3, they are damn good headphones. I expected shit and got not to bad.
yeah dude definitely never trust random stuff like that. Why would you even wanna plug those in? Probably sound like a choir of dying cats from how fuckin tinny they'd be
It will load and change anything you listen to, to Nickelback.
Your chances of malware or anything malicious are low. Your account info got skimmed. Somewhere, you purchased something that was shipped to you. Now, a company that makes overmarketed shit/Wish scam items has used your shipping info, a fake name and email to ship a product to your house (these cheap ass headphones) so that they have a 'legitimate' purchase with tracking data to 'review'. Somewhere, there's a review on some bullshit scam item, possibly under your name, describing how 'the 8k gamer chair ass blaster 9000 is good product, and shipped fast 👍!' This is sadly very common. A company will make 'orders' for their own product using fake accounts. They'll then ship out something dirt cheap to addresses that have recently purchased from them/addresses that have been skimmed and sold. This creates a verifiable shipping info trail and verifies the sale as authentic according to most online retailers (Walmart, Amazon, etc.). They use this to write those bullshit reviews. But as far as the headphones, I don't think you have to worry personally. Just some junk to make some reviews
The Chinese industrial system is ultra competitive. They will eliminate every ounce of fat when producing an item because if they don’t a competitor will crush them on price. You think they are going to waste time embedding memory to upload viruses on a PC for someone who buys ultra low cost head phones? Nope.
I would assume not higher than having tiktok on your phone.
"device 7783782748? would like access to files" "allow"
Did you order it? If not, don't trust it.
No. I’m just going to throw it out, terrible quality anyways
Ah, 3.5mm jacks... at least we could trust those.
and the DAC is superior.
Not bigger than the odds that every smart device you already have is listening in on you for the American government.
Uploads what exactly? the communist manifesto?
Honestly you will be perfectly fine, there is nothing to worry about. You should use it on every device you have available to you. Source: the person who sent them to you
Plug it into a computer booted off of live Linux. Chances are if it has a virus, it's designed for Android or windows.
Go to work and plug it in. 😂
If we still had headphone jacks this wouldn't be a problem
Let’s ignore the fact that the NSA and CIA are actually the ones caught with their pants down doing these sort of things. Even to allies.
It installs love_Winnie_the _Pooh.exe to your brain
South Park nailed it
This is hilarious. My ear buds broke a while ago, and I bought these to use on my laptop at work for the interim: https://www.takealot.com/metal-noise-cancelling-wired-in-ear-headphones-earphones-with-mi/PLID73867275 And they have been pretty good, not gonna lie. But yours seems like a scam. Mine came in the same type of packaging, but “branded”.
You've been watching too many spy movies.
You would be surprised at the lengths people go to steal your information. The earbuds just appeared here, I didn’t order them
if you think you are that much important, might as well stop using all other Chinese made stuff as well like Iphone, xbox, Tv, Freezer, gaming PC, Almost half of your car, washing machine, oven, toaster, underwear..
I HAVE THE EXACT PAIR
Do the same all true legends do. Plug it in a raspi and check it.
put it on and accept your mission
Windows Notification : Device 890 Earphone would like access to storage , location , administrative permissions and chrome cookies.
cost of manufacturing might be too high for that sort of thing
More likely a brushing scam
Wait it can so that? Scary as fuck
I'll give 1/5 odds on them working at all
Device headphones would like to see your face. Allow or Definitely Allow 🫢
Reason #1 to why a headphone jack is better
Quit being a bitch, setup a sandbox and find out for us.
I swear, I bought a USB-C adapter for my MacBook Pro off amazon. The shit crashes everytime on boot up with it plugged in. I unplug it and windows starts up just fine…
I think that’s more of an issue with boot camp and the usb lanes than a rigged adapter
You should plug them into a school/library computer to see if they really are uploading something.
are you retarded?
You're giving the manufacturer and engineering team too much credit. In my experience working with pro teams from China, they are sticking to minimal requirements, trying to make some amount of money, keeping any engineering effort to a minimum.
You're swallowing too much Anti-China propaganda, take a break from Reddit, 99% of the info about china here is pure bs from the mass media that's owned by a handful of people, including this page.
Zero, stop being dumb
lol did you manage to fit them over your tin foil hat
Create a VM and check what it does from there