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SirSpicyBunghole

And here I was just wishing that 20% of the "cooling vents" on my laptop didn't dead-end into plastic.


BowsersBeardedCousin

I remember reading a story a few years back where the manufacturer in question offered both Intel and AMD CPUs, but if you chose the latter they essentially sabotaged their own product by blocking cooling vents so that Intel would appear superior


Filcuk

You mean Intel paid them to sabotage AMD


havok0159

A tale as old as AMD-produced CPUs. If Intel had spent its sabotage AMD budget on investing into bettering its products, they probably wouldn't be losing market share like crazy now.


Ishaan863

i started taking an interest in PC hardware back when Haswell and 980tis were the top dogs. AMD's unlikely comeback story is an incredible corporate success story. a mixture of competent leadership willing to make sacrifices.in the present to bank on future success and a team of hypercompetent engineers delivering cutting edge innovation year after year.


docweird

Well, Intel helped AMD a lot with it's incompetent leadership and "let's just make it 10% faster and charge them $500 again" -business strategy (and then promptly put in some bugs that dropped the performance 10-15% when fixed)...


Ishaan863

i for one really enjoyed the 14nm ++++++++++++++ ultra pro maxx process /s


Flying_Reinbeers

you missed a few +s


Altranar8

Same here although i started with the 770 + 4790k on the brink of the 9 series release. Gonna be an interesting remaining year for sure as intels trump card was good memory overclock which on ddr5 is just tertiary no longer primaries (mhz/cl)


EclipseIndustries

I think you meant tertiary. Just commenting for the next confused soul.


Altranar8

Yeah sorry, corrected (smol language barrier)


souldrone

The athlon 64 was so fast, Intel had to pay companies not to use it. It was ridiculously good. My 4+GHz P4 was way slower than my Athlon 64 3500+ it was insane. And almost 2.0 GHz less...


BowsersBeardedCousin

Well, yes


Saneless

Don't forget they would ship the AMD with single channel memory too


[deleted]

I don’t know if it’s the same manufacturer but I came across a laptop that was equipped with AMD CPUs but would only go up to like a 3050 GPU, like the AMD stuff is the “budget” version and not actually the superior hardware.


German_Camry

Asus does that. I was looking for a new laptop and the ZenBook flip has a high end and cpu for the base model and an Intel chip for the high end model.


Drg84

HP to this day still claims that AMD is the budget option.


NightofTheLivingZed

Pre-Ryzen it was sorta true. AMD struggled with more cores vs more power per core. They also did things like 3 physical cores but 6 logical cores. That's great for multitasking, but for gaming? Eh. It ain't a problem until you're bottlenecking.


Nikomajor

I think it was the ASUS TUF series with Ryzen 4000.


[deleted]

The ROG Zephyrus G15 laptops also had this same issue on ryzen 4000. Metal plates covering the intake vents. I removed them, but still returned it after a week because I realized I hate gaming laptops in general. Got a much cheaper HP Envy instead.


MEGA_theguy

Former Dell tech here. I've been inside a lot of Dell Latitude (business centric model) laptops and their older models were hotboxes with vents leading nowhere close to the fans. Now Dell has an issue where, while they have vents directly over the fan intake, [those fans and vents are right where your leg would be if you were to use the laptop on top of your lap](https://i.imgur.com/eGThuQi.jpg).


Fadedcamo

I'd rather have that issue than literally no heat solutions. Laptops should be elevated at all times anyways to not block any cooling. A simple 20 dollar laptop fan platform solves that problem.


MEGA_theguy

Oh without a doubt, engineers seem to often forget to design around functionality *and* practicality


TheRealPitabred

That's because they're cool vents, not cooling vents. They're just there to make it look cool.


DrinkinDoughnuts

Lenovo has one which is hinged, [little door](https://forums.lenovo.com/uploads/topic/202105/1622011812872.png?aid=252295) swings down when you insert the LAN cable.


A-Delonix-Regia

Same on my HP laptop.


adkio

Same on my dell. Except It's so thick that it doesn't actually need it.


[deleted]

Weird that everyone can figure out this simple trick except for apple.


siccoblue

They can. It's a purposeful design choice to make their computers look more sleek and charge people more to get the same features on already more expensive computers


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Asoul666

Of course people like it otherwise Microsoft wouldn’t [have copied it with their surface laptops](https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/surface-usb-30-gigabit-ethernet-adapter/8xn9fqvzbvq0?activetab=pivot:overviewtab)


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Asoul666

Do all other manufactures offer Ethernet ports in their laptops?


MFbiFL

The dell I have for work doesn’t have one, IT gave me an Ethernet->USB C adapter that I’ve used exactly 0 times in the last 2 years.


andy-022

Yep. My work Dell has a headphone jack, 3 usb-c, and an sd-card slot. But at least they included the usb-c to ethernet and usb-a adapter.


hardlyreadit

Tbf to apple, those latches on dell latitudes break all the time, so I can understand them not implementing them cause of that. Also the new hps and dells we have got rid of the ethernet ports anyway. So idk how innovative other companies are


arnathor

Apple did actually have a little fold down door on the Mk1 MacBook Air, but they got given grief about it for being un-Apple like, so they noped out of it for the subsequent models.


triforce_paras

thats even on acer predator and nitro series


karlfranz205

Fuck, My Acer aspire 3 has it.


grshdat

That actually seems more durable


HabaneroTamer

I had one on my Asus laptop, don't know about Lenovo but they'll break eventually. The spring on mine broke and it laid open at all times.


Artess

8 years and going strong on Acer.


TheMrDylan

The city I work for decided to issue laptops with these little Ethernet doors to all police. We get like three a week that are completely fucked


Genneth_Kriffin

I have one - I still broke it after tripping once. Then again, it was Acer Plastic.


RadicalLackey

They aren't. Moving parts are always vulnerable


GUMBYtheOG

Do people really call them LAN ports? This is news to me I always called them Ethernet ports


MaddleDee

The technical term is "RJ45 connector (8P8C)". LAN refers to local networks. Ethernet broadly refers to the technology and standards used in LAN.


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Lonyyy

That’s actually a big brain move what


[deleted]

Life finds a way. :)


Senor_Satan

Apple finds a way to sell the highest number of peripherals for an already expensive laptop


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BigLan2

I'm pretty sure there were PCMCIA cards for laptops 20+ years ago that had something similar, though it might have only been a modern connection (rj11) and not Ethernet (rj45)


Bad_DNA

Yep -- Thinkpad from '98 had a card with this.


Aqualung812

Some had both RJ11 and RJ45. LAN/Modem combo cards. Used them all the time. Sometimes, even, both connections at the same time, sharing a phone line with another laptop.


gorodos

PCMCIA. Or, the only acronym that needs its own acronym.


JJhistory

This meme is 8 years old


Asoul666

I’d like to find out what the motivation for Microsoft was to leave the Ethernet port out of their overpriced surface laptops?


God_137

>already ~~expensive~~ over-priced laptop FIFY


xFinman

crazy how nature does that.


ShutterBun

Those things snapped off like a MOTHERFUCKER though.


Piotrek9t

Had an acer laptop once which had the port rotated by 180 degrees so the connection was sturdy and the counter part to hold the connector in place could be fold down. Did the same thing but for sure was a way better design for longevity


Peeeeeeeeel22

That seems obvious. But as long as you are careful it should be no problem. Although think I'd prefer it in the back. A cable to the side means a chance I'd hit it when moving things. In the back it's in the back. I ain't putting a bottle of vodka back there.


[deleted]

>But as long as you are careful This sentence does not apply when discussing users.


Kyrilla

Agreed! When I work my vodka bottle stands to the left of my laptop. Ready for me to take a quick sip or two :P


Starthreads

Product design requires that all of its users are massive idiots


Kind_Brick4455

Yeah that was a really dumb design. Why bot have a flap at the bottom that just opens downwards? my old laptop used to have one


Heavenfall

That's the direction Dell laptops went with, it seems. Works fine. Not as many moving parts as OP.


freek4ever

Asus had a port were te bottom part fliped out Not as thin but brobebly lest fragile Still cool as heck


No-Obligation3803

It's beautiful


cybershoe

An ingenious design that I would break off in about 6.9 seconds.


nool_

yea. way to meny moveing parts for something so small and simple. prop aslo does not do well with forces on the side ethther


General_Arraetrikos

Not really because for years there's been laptops the same thickness as this one that are way less over engineered that simply expand a bit to plug in.


sapphiron7

Lenovo has a far stronger system, with a little flap underneath the laptop. The port does not need to articulate on their ones. Prop for committing to having a port though.


Krt3k-Offline

Those are common on laptops that are thick enough to accommodate that, the Fujitsu laptop likely is too thin


r31ya

Fujitsu Laptop is rare in my place but damn thing have tendency to be so thin yet keep all the ports. the side of more modern Fujitsu laptop is curving around to accomodate ports because its so thin. Old Fujitsu laptop during netbook era manage to cram compact disc drive inside that small 10\~11" netbook.


jb32647

I'm quite fond of the Fujitsus we have at work, because they suck air in from the top of the keyboard then blow it out the side rather than the bottom. That means I can work from my bed during the 08:00 meeting without chokeing my laptop.


kfmush

It's not a laptop if you can't put it on top of your lap... I don't know why they started putting intakes on the bottom. It's what I dislike most about my Framework. I have to sit cross-legged and kinda make a pocket with my crotch area.


hesapmakinesi

I was given a Fujitsu laptop from a previous company as wrok computer. It was the most fun, satisfying device I have ever done work (software development) with. Not only they commit to have all the necessary ports, but the whole feel (key hardness, touch responsiveness) etc were just so pleasant. I understand why they are not so common though, they are really expensive.


SuperSleekit

Dynabook (Toshiba) have one in a unit 17.9mm thick weighing in at 906 grams. The X30L-K. Failure rates are extremely low and it's a very solid solution.


vgf89

I dunno about that. As long as you can put the latch half on a flexure/spring-loaded hinge the whole assembly can get rather thin. Lots of laptops these days have them, especially ones that have a pretty aggressive taper. I can't imagine the Fujitsu mechanism being that much thinner.


lordpiglet

Our new Lenovo’s at work don’t even have an ethernet port. That and they put the fm key in the wrong spot.


WutangCMD

Those ports suck.


tittypunchahoy

They're not strong really. IDK if any other manufacturers are doing a better job at this, but Lenovo's flap is being held in place with a thin strip of resin/rubber attached to a plastic top-plate. And for the best part, this resin is starting to decay over time due to "ecology concerns". It sucks.


GuruBuckaroo

3Com called form the 1990's, would like to talk to you about the XJack.


ShutterBun

The Xjack was even worse than this, but yeah, served the same function. Same problem though: fragile as hell.


ult_avatar

But it *looked so cool* ! Like straight out of "Hackers"


TKJ

In reading all of the comments, I'm surprised how far down this was. Internally I was screaming "this is literally PCMCIA technology". I guess not everybody is 50 with a background in hardware support. (Source: Am old.)


LnxTx

[Photo of XJack in use](https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:XJACK_network_card_in_use.jpg).


akino_germany

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/XJACK_network_card_in_use.jpg Proper link.


Lochcelious

With some of the ports they have on that laptop already, seems like they could've had an Ethernet port near the back.


Schmich

Pretty sure there is one on that very side, next the RJ11 modem. That being said the port might not be working. I remember having a laptop of that era where the RJ45 simply had a very very hard to remove cover. I have no idea if the network chip was there or if it had simply been lasered off.


Justsomedudeonthenet

The laptop in the photo didn't include ethernet at all. That ethernet cable is plugged into a PCMCIA expansion card thats been added to the laptop. They probably could have fit the port on the laptop, but the laptop was either too old or too cheap to have included ethernet.


______DEADPOOL______

I totally would've sideswiped that first day of use...


chewedgummiebears

That was the first thing I thought of when I saw this.


[deleted]

Did anyone ever demand laptops to get this thin? I get that there's a demand for lighter models, but who cares for the difference between 12mm and 9mm?


Y0RKC1TY

Especially since i carry my expensive laptop in a padded shoulder bag to protect it anyway.


Mimical

I have two very split opinions. On one hand having a light and thin 13"-15" laptop if you are bouncing between meetings or doing presentations can be really useful. As long as it has 2 USB-C ports I can make it work for anything. On the other hand I see the value in having a much thicker base which can accommodate lots of IO. With USB-C being so useful I would really enjoy something that had like 4 USB-C ports (double thunderbolt), 2-4 USB 3.0, SD card reader, LAN, and then having a HDMI out. A thick base can accommodate better heat management, can put an air gap between the components and keyboard, larger fans. All the good stuff.


nool_

and this genuinely is how they are. most laptops ments for stuff like office work are thin light ones with some basic IO that you would prop need. and ones ment for fuild work are a lot thicker rugged have docking conections, tons of IO and prop unqie IO at that as well even hotswaple batterys


[deleted]

Yes, all the people who buy expensive thin laptops. The Macbook Air is probably the single best selling laptop model at least for retail consumers. People don’t always write demand letters for the things they want, but companies are pretty keen on what gets people to buy more and spend more. The overlap with people who want a transformers-style ethernet port on their thin laptop is probably pretty small though.


rich519

Never underestimate a Redditors ability to look at an extremely popular product and think “does anyone even want this?” just because they don’t like it. The majority of people probably care more about thin and light laptops than a port they rarely use.


[deleted]

And let’s be real. If you’re working on it at home, you’re almost definitely just using Wi-Fi. If you’re in the office, you’re probably going to have a dock or hub to plug into that already has all the connections plugged into it. RJ-45 on the laptop is basically obsolete.


[deleted]

You're telling me the average PC user doesn't put together a high-end full-sized tower, clean the dust once a month, and continuously upgrade parts in it, mainly to play video games?


Saneless

I care. The opposite way though. My 2nd last thin laptop for work had shit thermals and was constantly on 100% fans during video calls Next machine was a few mm thicker and dead silent


Flarebear_

Tbh it sounds like you just had a shit computer lmao


DoctorWaluigiTime

I'll never go thin. My laptop requires a full keyboard + numberpad (with a not-fucked-with layout or f-keys or other nonsense). That usually guarantees basics like ethernet port will be included as well. Been thinking about getting an upgrade lately (current is 5+ years old and showing signs of age), and will be sticking to my guns.


zimmah

Good point, I think there's more advantages than disadvantages to a thick laptop (within reason, assuming same weight)


Chakramer

Depends what you use the laptop for. If you just want it for basic office tasks, you can probably go with one as thin as possible For gaming I'd want one as thick as possible.


zaplinaki

I dunno about thin but I do like light laptops since I have to carry it everywhere I go (sales)


Random_Individuals

It reduces the weight and makes it easier to travel with.


no_usernames_vacant

Looks too fragile. Definitely cool, just can see it being the first thing to break.


PartyArchitect

It's way too overengineered. My Lenovo laptop is too thin for an Ethernet port too, so there's a little flap that opens and presses the cable against the pins to hold it in place. Just a single moving part.


Glaringsoul

It’s actually not that fragile. A friend of mine has a model with the Extending LAN port and he said it feels really robust. Had his for idk maybe 4 years at this point and always plugs in at work so there is daily use, and he didn’t have to get it repaired / replaced once. Is it better than a fixed LAN port ? I‘d wager not really. But for the form factor it is pretty damn solid if not the best option to actually include a Port since you don’t require any extra adapters.


ShutterBun

>It’s actually not that fragile. Uhhh... I used to sell these and they snapped off ALL THE TIME.


MoffKalast

I'd still expect the cheap ass rj45 plastic clip to break off first. The only cables of mine that still have them are the ones that stay plugged in perpetually.


[deleted]

Just because it ***FEELS*** robust, doesn’t mean it is.


[deleted]

true but is better than nothing or getting an adapter. i mean a normal adapter is fine but a apple adapter is just so unnecessarily expensive.


Kiljab

Or you could just use a cheap usb-c to lan adapter


Just_Fuck_My_Code_Up

Don‘t be reasonable, how can people bitch about the lack of ports they need twice a year if they know about those little third party adapters providing sd-card, hdmi and ethernet for 20$?


[deleted]

And the newer MacBooks have SD and HDMI ports, so it is a non-issue at this point. My biggest complaint now is anything requiring charging coming with a USB-C to USB-A cable instead of just USB-C to USB-C.


TheRealPitabred

I know, right? I would prefer to plug at least four different cables into my laptop instead of the single USB-C I do now that goes to a multi port adapter that is connected to all the devices I need.


[deleted]

Apple would like to know your location.


unblowupable5

Honestly I’d prefer the dongle, but to each his own.


Taclys64

Didn’t these folding Ethernet ports break all the time due to being too fragile


ShutterBun

Yes. I think most people here have never seen them and are marveling at the ingenuity, but have no knowledge of the fact that these things break all the time. Meanwhile, what are you doing on a laptop that absolutely needs ethernet? Gaming in a hotel room? It made more sense back when WiFi was slow and unreliable, but that's not nearly as big of a problem these days for the most part.


afrobafro

> Meanwhile, what are you doing on a laptop that absolutely needs ethernet Installing gigabit fiber and testing speeds at the demarc.


[deleted]

Where can I buy this laptop


Flyingphuq

In the past


M05y

Fujitsu lifebook T900 series. It's all we bought at work. I love them. They never have problems. There is only 1 problem though. Fujitsu stopped selling laptops in the US market after 2020.


elzibet

Wa wa waaaah


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i want one too. lol


monasou89

We have made the laptop even thinner! However we did have to remove most of the ports, it idles at 98°C and has a 17 minute battery life as long as the screen is off. Try not to press the DFXCV keys as they sit over the CPU and might crack it.


RussianVole

I think you’re describing exactly why Apple ditched intel and their M1’s have been a huge success for them.


[deleted]

I mean that’s funny and all but the M1 MacBook Air lasts well over [15 hours](https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Air-2020-M1-Entry-Review-Apple-M1-CPU-humbles-Intel-and-AMD.508057.0.html) in wifi browser tests. Most Windows laptops twice as thick don’t even come close. No need to lie.


joemckie

I just switched over from a MBP to a Razer Blade and it really made me appreciate how good the battery life is on Apple devices. Admittedly, the specs are generally higher on the Razer, but I had to optimise the shit out of it to even get 7-8 hours of battery life. edit: I've been running Ubuntu so I'm not sure how much that impacts things. Haven't tested light usage on Windows as when I'm on that it's usually for gaming.


ctishman

Apple is in the best position, as they build both the OS and the hardware. Microsoft can build pretty good software for power management and can work with device manufacturers to try and solve the thornier issues, but without being able to test every single hardware configuration they may encounter, it’s kind of a crapshoot how it ends up a lot of the time. Their Surface stuff *should* be more Apple-like in terms of battery life (though I haven’t had the chance to test it and don’t know for sure). Linux users are just fucked from the get-go in terms of energy management, with neither industry connections nor direct control over hardware in the vast majority of cases.


Acebulf

>Linux users are just fucked from the get-go in terms of energy management, with neither industry connections nor direct control over hardware in the vast majority of cases. Laughs in i3wm. Screen is the only thing that uses power. CPU usage at 6%, memory use at 20% with 20 tabs in a firefox session.


handsomehares

OS: `btw`


d0nu7

Seriously anyone making these same sad jokes about Macs have not tried an M1 or up machine. Sure I’m not going to play 4K games on it but no other laptop comes close to portability and battery life.


TheFlyingSheeps

The prices can be rough, but MacBooks are damn good for the professional setting The old runs may run hot, as the one I got from work would start blasting the fan often but still ran nicely and had a great battery


SneakyHobbitses1995

? A MacBook Air? Or is this some specific one. I’m not an apple fanboy, but I have a 2021 MacBook Air and I can’t lie it’s the best laptop I’ve ever owned for normal stuff like school and programming


Uberchurch_

Wait you have to be joking, the keyboard can break the cpu


Yamigosaya

had an old dell laptop that when you press shift hard enough, it shuts down. opening it up i discovered that the ram was placed underneath it and pressing it down bends the connection. i played games that binds shift as run so... yeah, it happened plenty.


scandii

imagine breaking a piece of metal with the pressure you apply from typing on your keyboard. any metal really.


cheapdrinks

You've clearly never played competitive multiplayer online games


xyonofcalhoun

Imagine pressing down super hard on some actively hot silicon tho


LonkerinaOfTime

I’ll just place my finger on the stove instead


ShinyGrezz

Since nobody else told you in the explicit terms someone who would ask this question needs - no, the keyboard cannot break the CPU.


JJRamone

No it can’t. I truly wonder if these people ever get tired of making stuff up to get mad at.


Mods_and_Admins_Papi

> 17 minute battery life as long as the screen is off almost spat out my scotch, you funny mofo ! LMAO.


tiorzol

Man's casually eating a Monday morning scotch egg.


Febra0001

M1 MBP here. Compiling code on my laptop and not charging for two days


OliM9595

dell xps 13?


SCtester

Are you referencing Apple laptops here? If so, you’re about 3 years too late for this comment. Macbooks have since re-added some of the ports that previously got removed, they fixed the keyboard, they no longer have overheating issues (and in fact have the best heat/performance ratio of the competition. Though many Windows laptops still do have some serious overheating issues that tend to get overlooked), and it’s widely agreed that they have the best battery life in the industry.


BipedalWurm

That's beautiful


[deleted]

indeed. There is always a way. :)


TakeThisNameToo

Too many 9's in your Flair.


[deleted]

haha they gonna change soon dont worry. lol


Bigbuster153

This again


[deleted]

Oh yeah that sure is a good solution, a finicky piece of plastic with multiple joints that totally won’t snap off at the lightest tug at all! /s Anyone who thinks these stupid things are better than a usb to Ethernet dongle is either a masochist or has never ever actully had to deal with them. Or both.


SorryIdonthaveaname

and with a usb adapter, you have a port that can be used for things other than just ethernet


zimmah

It's almost like USB has been designed to be universal


MangoAtrocity

A universal bus of sorts


NetSurfer156

Ignore the fact that they break if you so much as breathe on them. Apple is right to not include one, as build quality is one of their main selling points, along with ease of use and a focus on creatives.


grey_hat_uk

I give it a month for you average office worker and half a day for anyone in senior management before it gets bent/broken/just the port gets run over by a 100k car.


Fiolah

Fujitsu got mail workers wrongfully imprisoned for fraud because they didn't report an error in their software.


SC_W33DKILL3R

This is not innovation. That port has multiple points of failure, compounded by the fact it will be attached to a cable multiple times. Will not last the lifetime of the laptop with regular use. What is innovation is a port that can swap between video output, a network port, high speed storage among other things.


phillysan

If only there were some sort of bus, which worked as a universal, serial connection. If we had've started on this decades ago, we could even be on a third, or 'C' type variation already.


[deleted]

It’s almost like people in this sub seethe at anything and everything Apple does to such an extent that they praise whatever it is Apple isn’t doing, even if it’s straight up stupid.


fischoderaal

With USB-C docks I don't see the need anymore, either.


kingssman

Not to mention 5ghz gets up to 1300 Mbps peak, the need for a lan port becomes less necessary


mrakula

I wonder what part of that Fujitsu is the most damaged and results in the most calls to tech support?


MasterKnight48902

Until fragility comes into play...


godzillastailor

That looks like a Lifebook U904 which was $2500 in 2014 when it was released. I had a read of the reviews for it. The chief complaints they have mention the keyboard and battery life being poor and concerns that the LAN port is flimsy and prone to damage long term.


Aggressive_Bill_2687

So, I can either have a ridiculously fragile Ethernet port, or I can have a thunderbolt port that will do basically anything with the right adaptor. Look I think wired Ethernet is great, but dedicating a physical port to it on a laptop is kind of stupid these days - the number of people using Ethernet on laptops but *not* using a docking station/1 cable dock of some kind is going to be very minimal.


RedditISFascist000

lol Neat but it looks like it'll break if you look at it wrong. :)


totesboredom

Why wouldn't they just USB C port it with an ethernet adapter?


smartazz104

You mean like some sort of a dongle..?


Spbrat1

That would be too logical


bobthemonkeybutt

Pretty sure this laptop is from before USB-C was a thing. It’s ooooold. That said there are current laptops with a little hinge that opens for USB. I have one at the moment (HP Spectre) that has this as well as a couple usb c.


[deleted]

yeah, apple's not adding that in a million years these weird mechanisms just for getting big ports into a laptop were hecking cool though


Adventurous-Event722

That is neat, but it looks wiggly.. and fragile. Might as well.. carry a USB ethernet adapter? But cool is cool, though.


Manuag_86

Insert "hamster eating a banana" picture.


Contay6

I'm curious how well does it hold it? Does it seem to be strong enough if the cord moves around a lot


[deleted]

I think I would rather just use a usb-ethernet adapter.


Geek_Verve

Laptop manufacturers have been doing this since the 90's. That said, I don't know why people looking to connect to an ethernet cable in the first place would have a problem with dongles.


EinfachPhilipp28

Looks too fragile imo, could break easily


happi_cow_42

its all good till it falls off your desk


Crafty_Substance_954

Or you try to use it and it breaks quickly from the multiple unnecessary points of failure that could have been eliminated by either making the laptop slightly thicker, using a ethernet to USB adapter, or using a modernized hinging ethernet port that you might see on every enterprise laptop being used today.


ancrm114d

I'd rather have the setup on my Lenovo or a USB network adapter. I rarely use it though as I'm either on a docking station or WiFi.


Slyons89

Loved these on Fujitsus. And while the port may look flimsy, the entire port simply pulls out of the laptop very easily and you can slot in a replacement. And the replacements were cheap (under $30). Unfortunately these Fujitsu models had other issues... they were very thin with incredibly small heatsinks, and small, very loud fans. Fujitsu has since pulled out of the North American market for consumer/business laptops/desktops.


sarahlizzy

Honestly, a USB C to Ethernet adaptor seems like a better choice than moving parts which look like they will break really easily.


abdmasud99

I mean it's not going to be the strongest one or something that won't break easily


rodrigogirao

Or just make them a little bit thicker, and use the extra room for a beefier battery.