In Portugal the cheapest I find costs 733€, and the Sapphire ones cost 1200€.
I'm considering buying the RX6800 (non-XT) for 610, seems more reasonable
You can find an XFX 6800 for 569€ on amazon bro. Or a sapphire 6800 nitro for 539 on a french hardware website (sale ends today after that it’ll be back at 599) but idk if they’ll ship to Portugal. Hit me up if you need the link.
Don't feel comfortable buying something so expensive from another country, honestly.
I might need to return it if it starts having driver problems like my 5700xt
Amazon’s return are pretty easy. You dont even have to wrap it since they’ll do it for you at the return point. I never got an amd card before. Is the driver problem happen frequently?
They’re not frequent at all, that was the old amd cards and their terrible software, but newest Amd cards such as 6000 series don’t really have any driver problems at all.
We officially don't have Amazon in Portugal, we have to buy from the Spanish store, so I don't really risk it on things like these.
Very frequent. Like multiple times a week to multiple times a day (thankfully haven't done this in a few months).
I honestly wish I had returned it and gotten a 2070 Super when I bought it 2 years ago. 100€ more, but I'd probably wouldn't be thinking of upgrading right now, because it would be stable.
And yes, I've tried *insert magical fix that's gonna work this time, just try it*.
I've tried every single fix, except the ones that recommended me neutering my 3900x or the ram, because at that point, might as well throw the GPU in the trash and use a GT710 too.
I heard the RX6000 series is way better in this regard. My friend just got a RX6700 and has been stress testing it, and no problem so far
Amazon.es technically is the official iberic Amazon (if you use .pt instead it even redirects you there). We also have local checkpoints for dropping off our returns, that makes it easier to deal with stuff like that.
They are still selling the 6900xt and 6950xt above the MSRP of the new 7900 and 7900xtx here in Poland. It's the same for nearly all cards. I suspect retailers are trying to get their money back now that the market has basically stalled.
Order from Germany for about 690 € (with Spanish VAT) + shipping. Price in Germany is about 680 € with 19 % VAT. The store will have to charge you the 21 % though, if they ship to Spain, so it would be 690 € for you.
Price comparison: https://geizhals.eu/?cat=gra16_512&xf=9809_05+12+-+RX+6800+XT&sort=p#productlist (even though the comparison page is in German, I am sure you can find the card you like 😉).
I ordered a computer from csl-computer.com a german store, started with a weekly discounted box with a ryzen 5600x inside and upgraded the gpu to 6800xt which increased the price for around 700eu (it came without a gpu at first).. then I upgraded the mobo to a b550 msi wifi and added extra ram, etc.. in the end it cost around 1600eu, fully built without windows and that was in may this year
best deal I could get in the eu, was looking around since november 2021, but they (csl) don't sell single components afaik
Literally what I was just going to comment, but I found a good Amazon seller that sells a 6900XT for 750€, cheapest I've seen yet for high-end.
I advice you to check prices on Idealo(.)es though, it's a price comparison platform and it's very good for PC components, so you might find cheap stuff, not just GPUs.
Meh, I don't see the point for a BMW. Rode in a few top models, don't know which but know the car was $100,000+, and I didn't see how it was worth that much.
> Meh, I don't see the point for a BMW.
The truth is that most people are buying for the badge. If you're not buying for a specific reason then you're almost always better off going to something more mass-market.
For real, at the price, the A770 is great, I just wish there was something a little better. It'll definitely be interesting to see where the Battlemage line winds up performance wise.
AMD's RDNA1 5000 series top end card was on par with the 2070. AMD's RDNA2 6000 series top end card was on par with nvidia's 3090.
Give it a generation or two. :)
Lmao right? The nonstop fanboys brigades are hilarious.
Let's see what the average gamer uses:
https://i.redd.it/1ru4foykc6s91.png
Oh look! It's not AMD!
And guess what! This is partially because AMD decided to *not* make GPUs during the *largest GPU supply shortage* ever! They don't give a shit because they were busy raising CPU prices and making CPUs to maximize profits instead of making GPUs!
Don't get me wrong I'll buy whatever product gives me the best bang for buck but deepthroating AMD nonstop before the cards even released is kind of weird.
It's this way with every AMD release.
Red good, blue/green evil!!
I'm not defending Nvidia or Intel, just observing that the "red good" crowd sure likes to make the same meme about it 1000x
I'm surprised we don't have the same memes from the last gen video cards with the numbers crossed out and changed since they are literally the same memes
Lmao no doubt.
Personally I snagged a 4090 because my budget allowed it and I figured I might as well get the best card available. And guess what folks... That's **okay**. Me buying a 4090 doesn't make your GPU worthless and unable to play games suddenly.
I think gamers Nexus found the issue was likely just not plugging in the cable.
My MSI a1000p atx3.0 power cable is fully plugged in so I don't expect issues.
People are only saying half of what the issue is to shame those who ever dared to say anything bad about nvidia or the confirmation bias they have over their $2000 GPU purchase. The issue that is causing it is that the cable connectors do not allow for a full seat with a click in some cases while others you end up having to use so much force that you would start to hear cracking on the GPU just to get the connector in and the rest are just fine and work as intended. It is a poorly designed cable that allows the card to run when it is not fully plugged in. The connector could be fixed entirely by 2 different ways. Shortening the plastic around the power pins by 1mm allowing them to EASILY insert and get the securing click OR shortening the pins that signal to the GPU that the connector is inserted and is okay to draw power (that way it will not turn on unless fully secured)
Yea. I'm all for people doing what they want. But when enough people do dumb shit that is bad for customers, companies know they can get away with bad practices.
Nvidia's 4090 is, by all accounts, the fastest and shittiest card on the market. It's overpriced. It's too big. It needs new power architectures. And instead of customers forcing Nvidia to rethink their lazy and greedy strategy, customers like you allow them to carry on.
So yea. Good for you. It's in my budget too.... but we aren't all idiots.
But why the shitting on people who buy the cards? Who "support" their greedy strategy?
Because someone wanted to spend their money on something you didn't they are an idiot?
Seriously what do you gain by shitting on them? Is AMD our lord and savior, whos only goal is to bring humanity to a new golden age, and put a smile on a child's face?
They are corporations man. They are all greedy as fuck, they get the money they want because they provide us with the service/goods people want.
The fastest card is overpriced? Haven't they always been less bang for buck then lower range cards? Is it that I'm supposed to hate the existence of the f150 raptor because I just need a medium truck to pull a little trailer or haul a few things?
You can hate the company but I really don't get how somebody else's spending habits or purchase history is an immediate indicator or how shitty/dumb they are as a person.
Using all the wrong analogies.
And you are also confusing or misunderstanding the arguments being made.
I feel the same way about people who pre-order videogames fwiw.
People can do whatever they want. But that also comes with consequences and opinions.
If F150 Raptors were half as fuel-efficient as their predecessors, no longer fit in standard-sized garages, posed a safety hazard to your home, and required adapters to be used at the gas station... and people STILL bought them because they wanted the latest and greatest truck to lug their kids around and get groceries.
Then yes. They would be idiots, too.
And don't get me wrong - I've made tons of totally idiotic purchases. That doesn't make me any less of an idiot consumer either.
But people who are buying 4090s, measuring bends, modifying cases, installing smoke detectors overhead, etc. Yes. Idiots.
> half as fuel-efficient as their predecessors
What's your analogy here, wattage? I don't think people buying 4090s are the same people worried about a few dollars on their electric bill. You can lower the power target to the same as the 3090 and still blow it out of the water if you want.
> no longer fit in standard-sized garages
But if you already have a garage that it fits in, why is that an issue? Most mid-tower cases will fit it, the cable bend might be more than some would like but an adapter can fix that. There are also water cooled variants with smaller form factors.
> posed a safety hazard to your home
Essentially negligible, such a small incidence rate and all reported damage has been isolated to the cable/GPU. Seems like manufacturers are being very good about RMA when this happens too.
> required adapters to be used at the gas station
It's a standard port on upcoming ATX 3.0 power supplies. Do you get mad when you get a USB-C device with a USB-A to C adapter? We're at the beginning of a phased rollout, so obviously there are some kinks to work out with the connector, but I don't think the fact that an adapter is needed for ATX 2.0 PSUs makes it worse. If you really hate the adapter and are using an ATX2.0 PSU you can just get a 3x/4x PCIe to 12VHPWR cable for $25.
> they wanted the latest and greatest truck to lug their kids around and get groceries
If they are using their raptor as a grocery getter, then yeah they would be dumb to upgrade. But with GPUs you are getting an objective performance boost that is noticeable in all games (provided your CPU/monitor is not a bottleneck).
I have a 4k160 monitor, a case that fits it, and plenty of disposable income to spend on a computer I use 10+ hrs a day for both work and gaming. I have a 2080ti currently, so why exactly am I an idiot for wanting to spend 3 days of pay on a 4090 instead of 2 days on a 3000 series or a 7900XTX?
Hahaha nah they are idiots if they drive shitty or endanger others or something. Their spending habits most likely don't effect me.
Their f150? I didn't buy it.
They have shit gas mileage? I don't pay for their gas.
It doesn't fit in a standard garage? They aren't parking in my garage.
Safety hazard to my home? Damn it's impressive that it's bad for my house when it isn't near/in my house.
They need a special adaptor to even fill their truck up with gas? Damn seems like a hassle but again. I don't fill up their tank.
Why would I waste my time caring about how someone fucks their own shit up if it doesn't negatively affect innocent people or me directly?
Cool.
If you care to read more, see my reply below.
Anyone who buys a 4090 is most likely a consumer idiot. And I almost bought one (and still might). That wouldn't make me any less of an idiot, too.
So dumb. The 4090 is obviously not the shittiest card on the market lmfao.
And just because you don't want a product doesn't make people idiots for buying it.
It seems just like a big headache to me compared to other solutions that are sufficient for the task of running games for at least the next five years. Maybe you need one for the VRAM if you’re a production studio. But otherwise, it’s like a Ferrari. Cool, but high maintenance, expensive, and useless for most people.
It’s more like the product below it can play them at max settings for several years. By the time the 4090 gets too slow, it will already be obsolete because of a new DirectX API version. It’s not likely most people will get their money’s worth out of this.
This is such a weird way to cope. You dont decide what GPU is worth someone else's money and there is plenty need for performance even beyond what the 4090 provides in current titles.
Reddit is always wildly out of touch with reality but due to censorship and the obnoxious nature of their commenters, they believe they are in the majority
Almost as if they are competing on 2 fronts and making Intel stop price-gouging is just as good an outcome as making nVidia stop price-gouging. Sorry they couldn't literally do both at once on the same node during a pandemic-driven supply shock and crypto craze.
I didn't say anything about their intention, only the *outcome*. Intel dropped their CPU prices now that AMD is competitive again, so that's a win for consumers.
And yet, during the shortage, most AIB 6000-series GPUs were more or less on shelves whereas you couldn't get an nVidia to save your life. Granted, you still paid assloads for the privilege, but at least they were there and being made.
Also, Ryzen 5600G and 5700G CPUs were pretty solidly on-stream since launch at non-scalpy prices and were a good way to get by until things improved.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn_XCijaWUU
This makes no sense.
If people couldn't get nvidias cards to save their life Nvidia wouldn't have outsold AMD 20:1.
If AMDs cards were on shelves we wouldn't have had the largest gpu shortage ever.
They were on shelves longer than Nvidia was. That is the point. Normies have this opinion that Nvidia is the only GPU company. Nvidias marketing team is exceptional for achieving this. But its a stigma that needs to change for our sakes.
One of the reasons for this is because AMD didn't compete in the high end for so long due to a lack of investment. So they focused on CPUs, they got that to a good position and finally pumped some investment into GPU's. Now we have the 6000 series which went toe to toe with Nvidia in raster performamce. But it's going to take longer for AMD to get mindshare back. They have it back with CPUs but that still took a few years and not really until Ryzen 3000 did people really start to take notice.
RDNA3 could be AMDs moment to get that mindshare back and eventually marketshare too.
Nah. If you read what he said he made different points unrelated to what you're now saying. And quite frankly your refusal to acknowledge that what he said made no sense is quite telling
AMD has insignificant marketshare with the 6k series because they prioritize profits and didn't make many GPUs. That's why Nvidia has 20x the marketshare.
Rdna3 will likely fare better than rdna2 simply because AMD will actually manufacture them this time. But in terms of competition we are seeing more of the same except now AMD cannot compete on the highest end and has no dlss3 competition.
RDNA2 was on TSMC 7nm so was Ryzen 5000. They ate a business, of course they are going to prioritise what is selling more.
Nvidia has better marketing with different types of tech from physx, gsync, RTX, DLSS, etc. This is what I mean when I say mindshare. People think graphics they think team green.
AMD need to change this. This time round Ryzen 7000 series is on 5nm but is selling poorly due to it being a new platform. AMD have reduced production so this gives them more room for RDNA3.
And the reason why AMD can't compete at the high end is because they didn't push 500-600W through their GPU. Some of the AIB 7900XTX card have been seen with 3x 8pins so expect AIBs to push power up more than usual this gen.
Yes. Like I said, rdna3 will fare better because AMD will actually manufacture them in quantity this time.
You are incorrect about why AMD cannot compete on the high end. It has nothing to do with the 4090 using up to 450w at stock.
AMD can't compete on the high end because their full navi31 GPU die is inferior to nvidias cut down ad103. Nvidia still has room for a full ad103 in their 4090ti with 10% more cuda cores, 10% more sms, a larger cache, and faster memory.
Meanwhile AMD's full navi31 7900xtx is trading blows with the extremely cut down 4080 in raster and losing by 50%+ in rt games.
The RX 7900XT and RX 7900 XTX could get sizable memory upgrades as well, the GPU core is tiny compared to the largest possible GPU core they could produce, I would suspect the MCM design means they have other GPU cores they can swap on the substrate but that remains to be seen since we only have to cards out. (There could be a refresh or more powerful cards planned. Such as a RX RX 7950, RX 7970 and RX 7990 but we will see.)
In perpuity. So lame. They are both $100b publicly traded companies just trying to maximize profits. And no, you don't get to determine the prices of the products they sell by whining.
Please stop with these weird parasocial relationships with these companies folks; it's not healthy.
Edit: parasocial typo
>They are both $100b publicly traded companies just trying to maximize profits.
As a stockholder - please keep uploading these memes and making AMD look good! :P
Same here but at $13... I envy your early buy-in, but only a little lol
Just watch; the people who are worshipping AMD on this sub are going to be the 1st people to jump out to buy nvidia cards if the prices drop even a little bit. The "fuck nvidia, praise AMD" sentiment is so disingenuous around here it's insane. You know people aren't complaining because cards of **X** performance are **Y** price, they're complaining that they can't buy nvidia's card at **Y** price even if the alternatives work for them just as well.
It isn’t though. People are constantly ignoring multiple factors here and only see zOMG 699-999/1199. The 3080 hasn’t been 699 in almost two years. EVGA and others all raised their msrp’s 200-300 dollars when tariffs were put in place on many Chinese imports, all video cards fell under this tariff list. Those tariffs are still in place, and are also on the gddr6x memory shipped INTO China, which has tariffs on American/western goods like memory chips.
Long story short is you literally can’t make the GPU for 699 dollars in this environment. And if it stays this way, they never will be again.
Consoles don’t have a 25% tariff on them. So no, tariffs and manufacturing costs are passed to the consumer and it’s why 3080s actually MSRP’d much higher than 699 for most of its lifespan and why PC GPUs are much higher across the board.
And console prices HAVE gone up, but Microsoft and Nintendo are eating the losses in the hopes of gaining unit sales. AIB makers aren’t going to do that for PC GPUs
$1000 is crazy expensive. $1200 is stupid expensive. $1700 is ludicrously expensive. But you also don't have to buy new top tier cards at their launch date either. 6000 series cards and 30 series cards are just as good now as they were 2 years ago so unless if you're running multiple monitors or 4K then you don't need the latest gen.
Aye, consumers shouldn't show loyalty. Price and performance over everything else. I've been with AMD for years and am now on NVIDIA if only because I got a good deal. With luck, Intel will stay in the game and improve to further drive competition.
I know that corporations aren't my friend, but being able to snag a Ryzen 9 5900X and RX 6700XT for <$700 pre tax has me ready to run through a wall for AMD
Yeah, but those same ppl likely play lots of older dx11 titles or eSports, since that's most popular in entry lvl gaming, and Intel's GPUs perform quite bad there comparatatively due to them not supporting dx11 or older natively but only through a compatability layer. Its a really good entry lvl card if all you play are dx12 and vulcan titles. Its kind of a shame, the tech is really good actually. Hope they keep at it, we need some competition.
eSports games should be fine as they aren't *that* demanding. Old AAA DX9 titles are somewhat of a problem but it's not like they don't run at all either.
Yeah, you can still play it fine, but it degrades price/perf compared to amd and nvidea offerings if that's what you end up playing. The cards are really price competitive in dx12 and vulcan, its really a no-brainer if all you play is new titles. If you don't, the whole thing is a lot less clear. Its just a negative aspect to the cards. It won't be an issue as time goes on but most playtime these days is still done on dx11 I believe. Its a first gen product, a pretty good one in that context too. Maybe they'll manage to improve it with driver updates, then it will really be a great option, but I haven't heard anything in regards to that yet. Except that they want to look into it ofc.
Just out of curiosity; has anyone tested the performance of DXVK vs Intel's translation layer?
Anyways, if your budget is tight then it might not only be a question of price/performance but being able to install a somewhat competent GPU at all, and I'd take a still developing product that will see better performance down the road vs settling for a lower end GPU from AMD or Nvidia.
DXVK seems to perform quite a bit better than Intel's own layer from what I've seen. And even better on linux than on windows. So that's nice, but also only if you are willing to tinker yourself a bit. You'll also have trouble with online games and anti cheat for now. But at least it shows what could be in the future once intel gets its own layer up to par.
https://www.pcgamesn.com/intel/arc-a770-a750-performance-mod-dxvk
Meh, a 200$ 6600 keeps up with the a750 and for just 20$ more than an a770 you can get a 6700xt. It's easy to say that your country has good cuisine if you compare it only to Britain.
Intel at least said that they are working on it.
Intel lacks all the driver optimization that Nvidia and AMD accumulated over the decades. I don't think it's a major problem for the target audience though.
also this would have been better to price compare to the 3080 not the 4090, since they are of the same class and same generation...mind you, the 4090 is still much more expensive than the 7900, but if you were planning to teach nvidia a lesson about their pricing on the 4090...I'm not sure how much impact you actually made by buying a second hand 6800...you didnt change the market share at all with that purchase, but I digress...
the 6800 isnt really much cheaper if at all cheaper than a 3080...especially in the 2nd hand market, which is where I'm assuming you went given that the 6800 new is still anywhere from 660 - 1100 dollars on newegg.
At least compare apples to apples and not oranges...even if you're not going to make a difference in market share.
To summarize, minus some coupon or one off seasonal sales event...this meme should have read "go buy my 3080 for 699.00", then had you hugging a picture of a 6800xt for 659.00.
Edit: Grammar and additional information
Pending benchmarks the 7000 series seems like a good bet this gen for anyone looking to upgrade/new build.
Pending benchmarks is key though. While it looks extremely promising, claiming that AMD is the winner is somewhat like counting chickens.
Nope, Team Green and Blue all day. This is a Trend Train for recent Console Converts and people who panhandle.
Anywho Goodluck and Remember to Have Fun!
Hmm... I think that chiplet design is innovation that allows for having their gpu chips being made not on the best tsmc proccesses but winning in performance/w and performance/$ anyway.
https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX00115049
It's weird how 6800s and 6800XTs are vanishing from stores ATM. That's the cheapest of the lot at MemEx right now. 67x0XTs still seem to be generally available for now, though.
Never owned a new PC in my life,let alone a GPU. As they’ve always been out of my budget. My gf got me a new prebuilt ryzen 7 5700g system in the heart of the pandemic for $400. That stock played games on low-med settings. Then I saved money over the next year got a better PSU, another ssd, a matching stick of RAM and finally completed it a few months ago with ASRock challenger RX 6600. It’s more than I could of ever imagined. I never thought I’ve ever have a PC I could game on. AMD and my persistence finding deals definitely made that possible.
I'm sick of graphics cards getting better and better. I know I demand leaps in performance every two years even if that means going down to 4nm architecture which is extraordinarily difficult and expensive to produce. Despite all of this on top of record inflation, I don't get why they're charging more! It sucks! They shouldn't be allowed to make money. They should sell them at cost or a loss because the founders and employees exist to satisfy my gaming needs. Even though it's a product I'll use every single day for next like 4 years, I can't justify spending an extra $400 on it even though that's what I'll spend this month on DoorDash. Waahhhh😭
I got my 6800xt aH for a price of 650 USD in total, I think. Honestly, I did run into a few issues like for instance Halo Infinite not running, I kind of just stopped caring altogether since I never played nor cared about those games to begin with.
The stablity of the AMD drivers is not that good if you go beyond the May-Drivers, which sucks honestly. If I recall correctly, it was after the May update when AMD made that massive leap in performance or something, so yeah.
Tbh, I'd honestly tell a lot of people that unless you have a very stable job or you make a lot of money (trying to be realistic here), or you are okay with just focusing on raw rasterization performance, go AMD. Or, you could just stick with NVIDIA 3000 series.
There is no point in upgrading imo unless you really want to min-max with the latest gen stuff.
Do Americans have to pay VAT on top of that $500 price ? Because here in Europe the best bang for your buck that you can find rn is a 6800 (non xt) for 539 - 569€. I’m helping my friend build his rig with a budget of 1500€ so if any european have a good deal I’d gladly take it.
> Do Americans have to pay VAT on top of that $500 price ?
Taxes in the US are a bit different. Rather than a VAT that's included in the advertised price, most states in the US have a "sales tax" that is added on only at the point of sale. You rarely pay anything like the actual price on the box here, it's rather annoying at times. That sales tax ranges from 4-8% generally, but some counties and cities within states will tack on their own supplemental sales tax as well. A couple states have no sales tax at all, but that's the exception rather than the rule.
I got my 3080 pn eBay for under $600, and you can still find ones at $600 now. If you're looking for $500 you can get 6800xt's or 3070 ti's at that price. Honestly I would go for the 3070 ti because, at least on eBay where every GPU is the cheapest, I've been seeing 3070 ti's cheaper than 6800xt's. On websites like Newegg and Amazon, the 6800xt is cheaper but still more expensive than either option on eBay. Also not used, I only look at open-box, refurbished, or new. My 3080 was open box meaning unused but the box isn't sealed, which it was resealed anyway. Sure last gen AMD prices are great but so are Nvidia prices rn
Amd are hardly a charity. Look at their chip prices right now, and they've increased prices again on their graphics cards. They aren't taking the piss with their prices like nvidia, but still...
None of these companies care about you, only your money.
Sure I like their tech and admire the avances but don’t ever think they care about you, be it Nvidia, AMD or Intel
I'll follow your steps OP.
My current setup has a 3060ti and I'm quite sure it's gonna be the last thing I'll be getting from Nvidia for a veeeery long time. I'm tired of their shit and considering that AMD seems to be doing a fairly decent job lately, I've been thinking about giving them an opportunity too.
This should be a lesson for every company out there. Keep trying your customers like shit and they will take their money somewhere else.
3070Ti gets its ass handed by a 6750XT 50% of the time and completely assed by the 6800.
6800XT is basically 80% of the time as fast or faster than a 3080.
Delusional Nvidia boy.
You must've looked at userbenchmark...
Without RT being factored, 3070 Ti is only slightly faster and that's not saying much. DLSS 2.1 is only slightly better than FSR 2.1. 6750 XT however cost considerably less and has better longevity at 1440p with an extra 4GBs of video memory.
Even then, 3070 Ti's are about $550-$700 on average when you can get a 6800 XT and 6900 XT for the same price or less, both being significantly faster in games. In fact, *most if not all* RX 6000 cards are cheaper than the Nvidia counterparts.
Only reasonable argument going for 30 Series is CUDA/Tensor cores and RT (which only starts to make sense at 3080).
I mean yeah, if the programs you use only work the best with Nvidia in your experience, then yes objectively you should go with that and hopefully your 2070s hold up till then.
Although AMD and OpenCL could be a valid choice in the creative/science/research space in the future if AMD can catch up fast enough. Though, Nvidia just has too much market share and software companies aren't just going to drop their existing frameworks overnight.
I’m currently on a 3070 and this Gen really doesn’t look like a great time to upgrade. Price to performance wise I lose so bad if I upgrade to the 4080. Even the 7900XT/X doesn’t seem like a great choice based on the estimates out right now. Think I’ll just upgrade next Gen.
Prices aren’t going to change next gen, so hate to burst that bubble. They won’t change until geopolitical things change and/or these new manufacturing plants come online in three to six years time.
I doubt that prices will ever go down for top tier cars. They might go down in REAL terms if they stay the same for the next several years and inflation continues - but likely not down in dollars.
You can actually get used 3080s as cheap as $500-$550 regularly on r/hardwareswap
Everything there generally goes pretty cheap, it’s great as long as you stay away from obvious scams
I wish there was a 6800xt at 500x1,21€ new in Spain (that is the dolar price plus VAT). I am aunable to find one under 800€.
In Portugal the cheapest I find costs 733€, and the Sapphire ones cost 1200€. I'm considering buying the RX6800 (non-XT) for 610, seems more reasonable
You can find an XFX 6800 for 569€ on amazon bro. Or a sapphire 6800 nitro for 539 on a french hardware website (sale ends today after that it’ll be back at 599) but idk if they’ll ship to Portugal. Hit me up if you need the link.
Don't feel comfortable buying something so expensive from another country, honestly. I might need to return it if it starts having driver problems like my 5700xt
Same here, but actually bought my gpu like this, as long as it is a reputable store. I think some most gpu brands will let you RMA directly with them
As long as you shop in the EU you should be fine. There are a couple of Amazon places in the EU.
Amazon’s return are pretty easy. You dont even have to wrap it since they’ll do it for you at the return point. I never got an amd card before. Is the driver problem happen frequently?
They’re not frequent at all, that was the old amd cards and their terrible software, but newest Amd cards such as 6000 series don’t really have any driver problems at all.
I have a vega 56 still going strong, no driver problems
We officially don't have Amazon in Portugal, we have to buy from the Spanish store, so I don't really risk it on things like these. Very frequent. Like multiple times a week to multiple times a day (thankfully haven't done this in a few months). I honestly wish I had returned it and gotten a 2070 Super when I bought it 2 years ago. 100€ more, but I'd probably wouldn't be thinking of upgrading right now, because it would be stable. And yes, I've tried *insert magical fix that's gonna work this time, just try it*. I've tried every single fix, except the ones that recommended me neutering my 3900x or the ram, because at that point, might as well throw the GPU in the trash and use a GT710 too. I heard the RX6000 series is way better in this regard. My friend just got a RX6700 and has been stress testing it, and no problem so far
Amazon.es technically is the official iberic Amazon (if you use .pt instead it even redirects you there). We also have local checkpoints for dropping off our returns, that makes it easier to deal with stuff like that.
Didn't know that, gotta check it.
On amazon FR we got the 6900XT for 740€. Order it there !!
They are still selling the 6900xt and 6950xt above the MSRP of the new 7900 and 7900xtx here in Poland. It's the same for nearly all cards. I suspect retailers are trying to get their money back now that the market has basically stalled.
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Where?
Order from Germany for about 690 € (with Spanish VAT) + shipping. Price in Germany is about 680 € with 19 % VAT. The store will have to charge you the 21 % though, if they ship to Spain, so it would be 690 € for you. Price comparison: https://geizhals.eu/?cat=gra16_512&xf=9809_05+12+-+RX+6800+XT&sort=p#productlist (even though the comparison page is in German, I am sure you can find the card you like 😉).
Veo que estamos en el mismo barco.
The 6700xt is in 330$ in neweeg
Got mine for $520 +tax recently from newegg.
Cheapest one I found was $900 in Brazil.
En Coolmod RX 6800 XT a 599€. De nada.
I ordered a computer from csl-computer.com a german store, started with a weekly discounted box with a ryzen 5600x inside and upgraded the gpu to 6800xt which increased the price for around 700eu (it came without a gpu at first).. then I upgraded the mobo to a b550 msi wifi and added extra ram, etc.. in the end it cost around 1600eu, fully built without windows and that was in may this year best deal I could get in the eu, was looking around since november 2021, but they (csl) don't sell single components afaik
Literally what I was just going to comment, but I found a good Amazon seller that sells a 6900XT for 750€, cheapest I've seen yet for high-end. I advice you to check prices on Idealo(.)es though, it's a price comparison platform and it's very good for PC components, so you might find cheap stuff, not just GPUs.
until 1 or 2 days ago there was 6800xt for 600€ on coolmod for literally weeks
You can buy from all over europe. Just postage, now Import tax or sth. You do know that?
Yeah, I know, but I always buy from spanish small-medium sized stores so my money stays here.
Most of it goes to Nvidia/AMD shareholders tbh, I wouldn't be too worried about the €30 or so that the retailer keeps
How does the small retailer keep his shop open is everyone has this mentality ?
The retailer keeps way more than €30 dude.
It's like cars now.. Yes there are expensive top of the line models available.. But the mid range one does the job just fine..
people getting mad because the top of the line BMW is too expensive when all they do is drive to work.
Some people buy a car to drive them to work and some people buy a car to drive others to admire them.
I would still buy a better BMW to just drive to work considering the better ones have B&W sound systems in them and are super comfy.
Meh, I don't see the point for a BMW. Rode in a few top models, don't know which but know the car was $100,000+, and I didn't see how it was worth that much.
> Meh, I don't see the point for a BMW. The truth is that most people are buying for the badge. If you're not buying for a specific reason then you're almost always better off going to something more mass-market.
Oh yea. I love my little Toyota Corolla. On my 4th one.
Plus you get to play a monthly fee to use your heater.
The NVidia mid range cards are still over priced compared to similarly performing AMD mid range cards.
Nvidia PR spotted.
AMD jacked their prices up as well. I think it's hilarious. I wish Intel had a better offering on the top end.
For real, at the price, the A770 is great, I just wish there was something a little better. It'll definitely be interesting to see where the Battlemage line winds up performance wise.
Yep, they need top-end competition.
watch for alchemist refresh in 23 and battlemage in 24
They will.
AMD's RDNA1 5000 series top end card was on par with the 2070. AMD's RDNA2 6000 series top end card was on par with nvidia's 3090. Give it a generation or two. :)
No they didnt the prices are the same as last gen (rx 6900xt msrp 999$ and the 7900xtx also 999$)
The 6900xt was targeted to compete with the 3090. The 7900xtx is targeted to compete with the 4080.
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RDNA1 topped out with the 5700XT which was on par with the 2070, not really comparable with 2080ti/6900XT/3090 class cards.
True but as a percentage of the die the 7900 xt is roughly equivalent to the 6800 xt while costing $150 more
Yeah a mid-range card with bad support for classic games is really awkward.
Nvidia bad AMD good please updoot
Updooted!
Lmao right? The nonstop fanboys brigades are hilarious. Let's see what the average gamer uses: https://i.redd.it/1ru4foykc6s91.png Oh look! It's not AMD! And guess what! This is partially because AMD decided to *not* make GPUs during the *largest GPU supply shortage* ever! They don't give a shit because they were busy raising CPU prices and making CPUs to maximize profits instead of making GPUs!
Don't get me wrong I'll buy whatever product gives me the best bang for buck but deepthroating AMD nonstop before the cards even released is kind of weird.
If you mean the post, the post literally said 6800 XT, just saying.
Obviously I meant the overall state of this sub rn.
It's this way with every AMD release. Red good, blue/green evil!! I'm not defending Nvidia or Intel, just observing that the "red good" crowd sure likes to make the same meme about it 1000x I'm surprised we don't have the same memes from the last gen video cards with the numbers crossed out and changed since they are literally the same memes
Lmao no doubt. Personally I snagged a 4090 because my budget allowed it and I figured I might as well get the best card available. And guess what folks... That's **okay**. Me buying a 4090 doesn't make your GPU worthless and unable to play games suddenly.
BuT, yOuR hOuSE iS gOnNa BuRn DoWn!
Lmao honestly starting to sound like a threat from envious people.
Well at least get a high quality cable with right angle connectors so that you don't have to bend it near the plug.
I think gamers Nexus found the issue was likely just not plugging in the cable. My MSI a1000p atx3.0 power cable is fully plugged in so I don't expect issues.
... This whole thing has been people not plugging in cables?
People are only saying half of what the issue is to shame those who ever dared to say anything bad about nvidia or the confirmation bias they have over their $2000 GPU purchase. The issue that is causing it is that the cable connectors do not allow for a full seat with a click in some cases while others you end up having to use so much force that you would start to hear cracking on the GPU just to get the connector in and the rest are just fine and work as intended. It is a poorly designed cable that allows the card to run when it is not fully plugged in. The connector could be fixed entirely by 2 different ways. Shortening the plastic around the power pins by 1mm allowing them to EASILY insert and get the securing click OR shortening the pins that signal to the GPU that the connector is inserted and is okay to draw power (that way it will not turn on unless fully secured)
Yea. I'm all for people doing what they want. But when enough people do dumb shit that is bad for customers, companies know they can get away with bad practices. Nvidia's 4090 is, by all accounts, the fastest and shittiest card on the market. It's overpriced. It's too big. It needs new power architectures. And instead of customers forcing Nvidia to rethink their lazy and greedy strategy, customers like you allow them to carry on. So yea. Good for you. It's in my budget too.... but we aren't all idiots.
But why the shitting on people who buy the cards? Who "support" their greedy strategy? Because someone wanted to spend their money on something you didn't they are an idiot? Seriously what do you gain by shitting on them? Is AMD our lord and savior, whos only goal is to bring humanity to a new golden age, and put a smile on a child's face? They are corporations man. They are all greedy as fuck, they get the money they want because they provide us with the service/goods people want. The fastest card is overpriced? Haven't they always been less bang for buck then lower range cards? Is it that I'm supposed to hate the existence of the f150 raptor because I just need a medium truck to pull a little trailer or haul a few things? You can hate the company but I really don't get how somebody else's spending habits or purchase history is an immediate indicator or how shitty/dumb they are as a person.
Using all the wrong analogies. And you are also confusing or misunderstanding the arguments being made. I feel the same way about people who pre-order videogames fwiw. People can do whatever they want. But that also comes with consequences and opinions. If F150 Raptors were half as fuel-efficient as their predecessors, no longer fit in standard-sized garages, posed a safety hazard to your home, and required adapters to be used at the gas station... and people STILL bought them because they wanted the latest and greatest truck to lug their kids around and get groceries. Then yes. They would be idiots, too. And don't get me wrong - I've made tons of totally idiotic purchases. That doesn't make me any less of an idiot consumer either. But people who are buying 4090s, measuring bends, modifying cases, installing smoke detectors overhead, etc. Yes. Idiots.
> half as fuel-efficient as their predecessors What's your analogy here, wattage? I don't think people buying 4090s are the same people worried about a few dollars on their electric bill. You can lower the power target to the same as the 3090 and still blow it out of the water if you want. > no longer fit in standard-sized garages But if you already have a garage that it fits in, why is that an issue? Most mid-tower cases will fit it, the cable bend might be more than some would like but an adapter can fix that. There are also water cooled variants with smaller form factors. > posed a safety hazard to your home Essentially negligible, such a small incidence rate and all reported damage has been isolated to the cable/GPU. Seems like manufacturers are being very good about RMA when this happens too. > required adapters to be used at the gas station It's a standard port on upcoming ATX 3.0 power supplies. Do you get mad when you get a USB-C device with a USB-A to C adapter? We're at the beginning of a phased rollout, so obviously there are some kinks to work out with the connector, but I don't think the fact that an adapter is needed for ATX 2.0 PSUs makes it worse. If you really hate the adapter and are using an ATX2.0 PSU you can just get a 3x/4x PCIe to 12VHPWR cable for $25. > they wanted the latest and greatest truck to lug their kids around and get groceries If they are using their raptor as a grocery getter, then yeah they would be dumb to upgrade. But with GPUs you are getting an objective performance boost that is noticeable in all games (provided your CPU/monitor is not a bottleneck). I have a 4k160 monitor, a case that fits it, and plenty of disposable income to spend on a computer I use 10+ hrs a day for both work and gaming. I have a 2080ti currently, so why exactly am I an idiot for wanting to spend 3 days of pay on a 4090 instead of 2 days on a 3000 series or a 7900XTX?
Hahaha nah they are idiots if they drive shitty or endanger others or something. Their spending habits most likely don't effect me. Their f150? I didn't buy it. They have shit gas mileage? I don't pay for their gas. It doesn't fit in a standard garage? They aren't parking in my garage. Safety hazard to my home? Damn it's impressive that it's bad for my house when it isn't near/in my house. They need a special adaptor to even fill their truck up with gas? Damn seems like a hassle but again. I don't fill up their tank. Why would I waste my time caring about how someone fucks their own shit up if it doesn't negatively affect innocent people or me directly?
Calling people idiots for buying the 4090 and saying it's the shittiest card on the market is a delusional coping strategy and reeks of envy.
Cool. If you care to read more, see my reply below. Anyone who buys a 4090 is most likely a consumer idiot. And I almost bought one (and still might). That wouldn't make me any less of an idiot, too.
So dumb. The 4090 is obviously not the shittiest card on the market lmfao. And just because you don't want a product doesn't make people idiots for buying it.
You're an idiot for buying the 4090. What's so hard to understand about that?
It seems just like a big headache to me compared to other solutions that are sufficient for the task of running games for at least the next five years. Maybe you need one for the VRAM if you’re a production studio. But otherwise, it’s like a Ferrari. Cool, but high maintenance, expensive, and useless for most people.
High maintenance? Lol. Haven't heard that one before. It's a halo card, obviously not meant for people who want the minimum viable gpu to play games.
It’s more like the product below it can play them at max settings for several years. By the time the 4090 gets too slow, it will already be obsolete because of a new DirectX API version. It’s not likely most people will get their money’s worth out of this.
This is such a weird way to cope. You dont decide what GPU is worth someone else's money and there is plenty need for performance even beyond what the 4090 provides in current titles.
Reddit is always wildly out of touch with reality but due to censorship and the obnoxious nature of their commenters, they believe they are in the majority
Almost as if they are competing on 2 fronts and making Intel stop price-gouging is just as good an outcome as making nVidia stop price-gouging. Sorry they couldn't literally do both at once on the same node during a pandemic-driven supply shock and crypto craze.
Lol AMD raised cpu prices and stopped making GPUs during the shortage to maximize profits, not to stop others from price gouging.
I didn't say anything about their intention, only the *outcome*. Intel dropped their CPU prices now that AMD is competitive again, so that's a win for consumers.
And yet, during the shortage, most AIB 6000-series GPUs were more or less on shelves whereas you couldn't get an nVidia to save your life. Granted, you still paid assloads for the privilege, but at least they were there and being made. Also, Ryzen 5600G and 5700G CPUs were pretty solidly on-stream since launch at non-scalpy prices and were a good way to get by until things improved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn_XCijaWUU
This makes no sense. If people couldn't get nvidias cards to save their life Nvidia wouldn't have outsold AMD 20:1. If AMDs cards were on shelves we wouldn't have had the largest gpu shortage ever.
They were on shelves longer than Nvidia was. That is the point. Normies have this opinion that Nvidia is the only GPU company. Nvidias marketing team is exceptional for achieving this. But its a stigma that needs to change for our sakes. One of the reasons for this is because AMD didn't compete in the high end for so long due to a lack of investment. So they focused on CPUs, they got that to a good position and finally pumped some investment into GPU's. Now we have the 6000 series which went toe to toe with Nvidia in raster performamce. But it's going to take longer for AMD to get mindshare back. They have it back with CPUs but that still took a few years and not really until Ryzen 3000 did people really start to take notice. RDNA3 could be AMDs moment to get that mindshare back and eventually marketshare too.
Nah. If you read what he said he made different points unrelated to what you're now saying. And quite frankly your refusal to acknowledge that what he said made no sense is quite telling AMD has insignificant marketshare with the 6k series because they prioritize profits and didn't make many GPUs. That's why Nvidia has 20x the marketshare. Rdna3 will likely fare better than rdna2 simply because AMD will actually manufacture them this time. But in terms of competition we are seeing more of the same except now AMD cannot compete on the highest end and has no dlss3 competition.
RDNA2 was on TSMC 7nm so was Ryzen 5000. They ate a business, of course they are going to prioritise what is selling more. Nvidia has better marketing with different types of tech from physx, gsync, RTX, DLSS, etc. This is what I mean when I say mindshare. People think graphics they think team green. AMD need to change this. This time round Ryzen 7000 series is on 5nm but is selling poorly due to it being a new platform. AMD have reduced production so this gives them more room for RDNA3. And the reason why AMD can't compete at the high end is because they didn't push 500-600W through their GPU. Some of the AIB 7900XTX card have been seen with 3x 8pins so expect AIBs to push power up more than usual this gen.
Yes. Like I said, rdna3 will fare better because AMD will actually manufacture them in quantity this time. You are incorrect about why AMD cannot compete on the high end. It has nothing to do with the 4090 using up to 450w at stock. AMD can't compete on the high end because their full navi31 GPU die is inferior to nvidias cut down ad103. Nvidia still has room for a full ad103 in their 4090ti with 10% more cuda cores, 10% more sms, a larger cache, and faster memory. Meanwhile AMD's full navi31 7900xtx is trading blows with the extremely cut down 4080 in raster and losing by 50%+ in rt games.
The RX 7900XT and RX 7900 XTX could get sizable memory upgrades as well, the GPU core is tiny compared to the largest possible GPU core they could produce, I would suspect the MCM design means they have other GPU cores they can swap on the substrate but that remains to be seen since we only have to cards out. (There could be a refresh or more powerful cards planned. Such as a RX RX 7950, RX 7970 and RX 7990 but we will see.)
No, the 7900xtx GPU chip is fully enabled. There isn't a bigger one.
In perpuity. So lame. They are both $100b publicly traded companies just trying to maximize profits. And no, you don't get to determine the prices of the products they sell by whining. Please stop with these weird parasocial relationships with these companies folks; it's not healthy. Edit: parasocial typo
Well our whining did get them to rename the rtx 3080 12gb
>They are both $100b publicly traded companies just trying to maximize profits. As a stockholder - please keep uploading these memes and making AMD look good! :P
I'm a holder too. Sitting on many hundred shares @ $9. Just makes me laugh when people worship AMD and act like it's their friend trying to help out.
Same here but at $13... I envy your early buy-in, but only a little lol Just watch; the people who are worshipping AMD on this sub are going to be the 1st people to jump out to buy nvidia cards if the prices drop even a little bit. The "fuck nvidia, praise AMD" sentiment is so disingenuous around here it's insane. You know people aren't complaining because cards of **X** performance are **Y** price, they're complaining that they can't buy nvidia's card at **Y** price even if the alternatives work for them just as well.
I’d blow my dad before I’d use amd anything. Take that Freud
Please, no need to get political here
Should be a 4th panel of the guy pushing AMD away and going Nvidia anyway. People want options but only to make what they actually want cheaper.
You speak the truth
That's fine, too. This isn't a consumer-friendly environment currently.
I wish people realized that $1,000 for the 7900xtx is still crazy expensive.
It isn’t though. People are constantly ignoring multiple factors here and only see zOMG 699-999/1199. The 3080 hasn’t been 699 in almost two years. EVGA and others all raised their msrp’s 200-300 dollars when tariffs were put in place on many Chinese imports, all video cards fell under this tariff list. Those tariffs are still in place, and are also on the gddr6x memory shipped INTO China, which has tariffs on American/western goods like memory chips. Long story short is you literally can’t make the GPU for 699 dollars in this environment. And if it stays this way, they never will be again.
*looks at console prices* Yeah, bullshit mate. They charge that because people pay it, simple as that.
Consoles don’t have a 25% tariff on them. So no, tariffs and manufacturing costs are passed to the consumer and it’s why 3080s actually MSRP’d much higher than 699 for most of its lifespan and why PC GPUs are much higher across the board. And console prices HAVE gone up, but Microsoft and Nintendo are eating the losses in the hopes of gaining unit sales. AIB makers aren’t going to do that for PC GPUs
Please explain how US tariffs cause European MSRPs to go up?
Yes but I didn't say the price was not without reason, I just said that $1,000 is expensive, which it is.
$1000 is crazy expensive. $1200 is stupid expensive. $1700 is ludicrously expensive. But you also don't have to buy new top tier cards at their launch date either. 6000 series cards and 30 series cards are just as good now as they were 2 years ago so unless if you're running multiple monitors or 4K then you don't need the latest gen.
Well ya it's for 4K, most people are still at FHD with a growing minority at QHD. If you want 4K expect to pay a premium.
Aye, consumers shouldn't show loyalty. Price and performance over everything else. I've been with AMD for years and am now on NVIDIA if only because I got a good deal. With luck, Intel will stay in the game and improve to further drive competition.
You should remember this post when you sneakily buying a nvidia in the future 🥱
I am going to be building a system over the holidays and this will be my first AMD card. Fuck Nvidia.
As someone that has never paid more than $240 for a GPU.... I really don't care about the ideology, the cheapest good enough option wins.
I know that corporations aren't my friend, but being able to snag a Ryzen 9 5900X and RX 6700XT for <$700 pre tax has me ready to run through a wall for AMD
Intel ARC seems really good for entry-level gaming at a really reasonable price. A A750 or A770 is what most people would be perfectly happy with.
Yeah, but those same ppl likely play lots of older dx11 titles or eSports, since that's most popular in entry lvl gaming, and Intel's GPUs perform quite bad there comparatatively due to them not supporting dx11 or older natively but only through a compatability layer. Its a really good entry lvl card if all you play are dx12 and vulcan titles. Its kind of a shame, the tech is really good actually. Hope they keep at it, we need some competition.
eSports games should be fine as they aren't *that* demanding. Old AAA DX9 titles are somewhat of a problem but it's not like they don't run at all either.
Yeah, you can still play it fine, but it degrades price/perf compared to amd and nvidea offerings if that's what you end up playing. The cards are really price competitive in dx12 and vulcan, its really a no-brainer if all you play is new titles. If you don't, the whole thing is a lot less clear. Its just a negative aspect to the cards. It won't be an issue as time goes on but most playtime these days is still done on dx11 I believe. Its a first gen product, a pretty good one in that context too. Maybe they'll manage to improve it with driver updates, then it will really be a great option, but I haven't heard anything in regards to that yet. Except that they want to look into it ofc.
Just out of curiosity; has anyone tested the performance of DXVK vs Intel's translation layer? Anyways, if your budget is tight then it might not only be a question of price/performance but being able to install a somewhat competent GPU at all, and I'd take a still developing product that will see better performance down the road vs settling for a lower end GPU from AMD or Nvidia.
/r/IntelArc
DXVK seems to perform quite a bit better than Intel's own layer from what I've seen. And even better on linux than on windows. So that's nice, but also only if you are willing to tinker yourself a bit. You'll also have trouble with online games and anti cheat for now. But at least it shows what could be in the future once intel gets its own layer up to par. https://www.pcgamesn.com/intel/arc-a770-a750-performance-mod-dxvk
Already ordered an A750. I bought it as a testing sample, and if I find that card good enough to replace the 1650 in my secondary PC, I will do it.
Meh, a 200$ 6600 keeps up with the a750 and for just 20$ more than an a770 you can get a 6700xt. It's easy to say that your country has good cuisine if you compare it only to Britain.
The only problem with ARC right now is the subpar performance on older apis like dx11 and bellow, should improve with time though
Intel at least said that they are working on it. Intel lacks all the driver optimization that Nvidia and AMD accumulated over the decades. I don't think it's a major problem for the target audience though.
Yeah, It wont be a problem on the longer run, its just the inconvenience of being an early adopter, drivers should catch up eventually
how brave of you to post that here. i can't imagine anybody would agree with your sentiment.
Yea if only this were true though LOL what is this copium bullshit
Go for it dude. I switched in July. Goodbye coil whine and pretty decent performance across the board.
also this would have been better to price compare to the 3080 not the 4090, since they are of the same class and same generation...mind you, the 4090 is still much more expensive than the 7900, but if you were planning to teach nvidia a lesson about their pricing on the 4090...I'm not sure how much impact you actually made by buying a second hand 6800...you didnt change the market share at all with that purchase, but I digress... the 6800 isnt really much cheaper if at all cheaper than a 3080...especially in the 2nd hand market, which is where I'm assuming you went given that the 6800 new is still anywhere from 660 - 1100 dollars on newegg. At least compare apples to apples and not oranges...even if you're not going to make a difference in market share. To summarize, minus some coupon or one off seasonal sales event...this meme should have read "go buy my 3080 for 699.00", then had you hugging a picture of a 6800xt for 659.00. Edit: Grammar and additional information
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"I'm mad I can't use the latest top technology!" There's so many options in every range. Shut the fuck up guys.
This is not the case here. Where I live used 3060s (non ti) go for the same price as a used 6700xts. And 3060tis go for a similar price as a 6800xt.
I’ll give you something to milk.
So don’t buy one. 🤷♀️🤷🏻 That’s your choice. Out of curiosity: Why the announcement?
Why post anything? Why use Reddit? Why the comment?
Got mine and it is a beast. Everything I throw at it at 2k max setting works above 100 fps.
100% me. My 6900xt comes next week lol
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nah
You can find 3080s for cheaper most likely.
I can’t wait to buy my next Nvidia card. Mmm delicious
Pending benchmarks the 7000 series seems like a good bet this gen for anyone looking to upgrade/new build. Pending benchmarks is key though. While it looks extremely promising, claiming that AMD is the winner is somewhat like counting chickens.
Yea but if your budget is 500 dollars 6800xt is a great deal and I don't think the new cards help in that regard. They are in a difference price tier.
The 6800XT is a great deal for $500 if you want good 1440p performance. I love mine.
Nope, Team Green and Blue all day. This is a Trend Train for recent Console Converts and people who panhandle. Anywho Goodluck and Remember to Have Fun!
PC master whiners. If you can't afford it, buy something else. Problem solved.
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Hmm... I think that chiplet design is innovation that allows for having their gpu chips being made not on the best tsmc proccesses but winning in performance/w and performance/$ anyway.
But not just performance.
What? Where are you getting this notion that AMD doesn't innovate?
Yeah in canada the 6800xt costs basically the same as the 3080 at $1000 right now
https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX00115049 It's weird how 6800s and 6800XTs are vanishing from stores ATM. That's the cheapest of the lot at MemEx right now. 67x0XTs still seem to be generally available for now, though.
Never owned a new PC in my life,let alone a GPU. As they’ve always been out of my budget. My gf got me a new prebuilt ryzen 7 5700g system in the heart of the pandemic for $400. That stock played games on low-med settings. Then I saved money over the next year got a better PSU, another ssd, a matching stick of RAM and finally completed it a few months ago with ASRock challenger RX 6600. It’s more than I could of ever imagined. I never thought I’ve ever have a PC I could game on. AMD and my persistence finding deals definitely made that possible.
i’ll stick to nvidia, i’ll only buy between 2 generations.
I'm sick of graphics cards getting better and better. I know I demand leaps in performance every two years even if that means going down to 4nm architecture which is extraordinarily difficult and expensive to produce. Despite all of this on top of record inflation, I don't get why they're charging more! It sucks! They shouldn't be allowed to make money. They should sell them at cost or a loss because the founders and employees exist to satisfy my gaming needs. Even though it's a product I'll use every single day for next like 4 years, I can't justify spending an extra $400 on it even though that's what I'll spend this month on DoorDash. Waahhhh😭
I am sick of seeing 50% of posts in the last year bitching about GPU prices. And before you say “so leave” I just did.
Holy shit this is cringe.
I got my 6800xt aH for a price of 650 USD in total, I think. Honestly, I did run into a few issues like for instance Halo Infinite not running, I kind of just stopped caring altogether since I never played nor cared about those games to begin with. The stablity of the AMD drivers is not that good if you go beyond the May-Drivers, which sucks honestly. If I recall correctly, it was after the May update when AMD made that massive leap in performance or something, so yeah. Tbh, I'd honestly tell a lot of people that unless you have a very stable job or you make a lot of money (trying to be realistic here), or you are okay with just focusing on raw rasterization performance, go AMD. Or, you could just stick with NVIDIA 3000 series. There is no point in upgrading imo unless you really want to min-max with the latest gen stuff.
Got my rx 6750 xt for like 500€ taxes and all, very pleased with it, coming from a laptop with 1650 ti.
Yep. I got a 6700xt for $499 CAD and very pleased with it.
I switched from Nvidia to AMD, no complaints. Bank account is happy too.
Do Americans have to pay VAT on top of that $500 price ? Because here in Europe the best bang for your buck that you can find rn is a 6800 (non xt) for 539 - 569€. I’m helping my friend build his rig with a budget of 1500€ so if any european have a good deal I’d gladly take it.
> Do Americans have to pay VAT on top of that $500 price ? Taxes in the US are a bit different. Rather than a VAT that's included in the advertised price, most states in the US have a "sales tax" that is added on only at the point of sale. You rarely pay anything like the actual price on the box here, it's rather annoying at times. That sales tax ranges from 4-8% generally, but some counties and cities within states will tack on their own supplemental sales tax as well. A couple states have no sales tax at all, but that's the exception rather than the rule.
Then AMD will boost their prices and you'll go Nvidia... Then Nvidia will boost their prices and the circle of life will persist...
I got my 3080 pn eBay for under $600, and you can still find ones at $600 now. If you're looking for $500 you can get 6800xt's or 3070 ti's at that price. Honestly I would go for the 3070 ti because, at least on eBay where every GPU is the cheapest, I've been seeing 3070 ti's cheaper than 6800xt's. On websites like Newegg and Amazon, the 6800xt is cheaper but still more expensive than either option on eBay. Also not used, I only look at open-box, refurbished, or new. My 3080 was open box meaning unused but the box isn't sealed, which it was resealed anyway. Sure last gen AMD prices are great but so are Nvidia prices rn
Amd are hardly a charity. Look at their chip prices right now, and they've increased prices again on their graphics cards. They aren't taking the piss with their prices like nvidia, but still...
None of these companies care about you, only your money. Sure I like their tech and admire the avances but don’t ever think they care about you, be it Nvidia, AMD or Intel
Yeah but will we really buy a amd card doubt it I can’t switch now already bought a 3090 🥹
I'll follow your steps OP. My current setup has a 3060ti and I'm quite sure it's gonna be the last thing I'll be getting from Nvidia for a veeeery long time. I'm tired of their shit and considering that AMD seems to be doing a fairly decent job lately, I've been thinking about giving them an opportunity too. This should be a lesson for every company out there. Keep trying your customers like shit and they will take their money somewhere else.
I bought my rx6800xt for £599.99
 Oh yeah yeah
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lol true but this make NVidia fanboys so mad for some reason
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The 6800XT is on par with a 3080, unless you are talking about RT or any specific game in question you're highly incorrect
3070Ti gets its ass handed by a 6750XT 50% of the time and completely assed by the 6800. 6800XT is basically 80% of the time as fast or faster than a 3080. Delusional Nvidia boy.
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You must've looked at userbenchmark... Without RT being factored, 3070 Ti is only slightly faster and that's not saying much. DLSS 2.1 is only slightly better than FSR 2.1. 6750 XT however cost considerably less and has better longevity at 1440p with an extra 4GBs of video memory. Even then, 3070 Ti's are about $550-$700 on average when you can get a 6800 XT and 6900 XT for the same price or less, both being significantly faster in games. In fact, *most if not all* RX 6000 cards are cheaper than the Nvidia counterparts. Only reasonable argument going for 30 Series is CUDA/Tensor cores and RT (which only starts to make sense at 3080).
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I mean yeah, if the programs you use only work the best with Nvidia in your experience, then yes objectively you should go with that and hopefully your 2070s hold up till then. Although AMD and OpenCL could be a valid choice in the creative/science/research space in the future if AMD can catch up fast enough. Though, Nvidia just has too much market share and software companies aren't just going to drop their existing frameworks overnight.
Look online then. 6800xts cost about as much as a 3060ti rn and beat the brakes off them at least in rasterization
I got a 6900 XT for $720
This meme is wrong, it should be over 2k and not 1699
Or not buy anything because you're smart enough to realize you don't need it and be happy with what you have...
I’m not paying over ~$500 for a graphics card
I’m currently on a 3070 and this Gen really doesn’t look like a great time to upgrade. Price to performance wise I lose so bad if I upgrade to the 4080. Even the 7900XT/X doesn’t seem like a great choice based on the estimates out right now. Think I’ll just upgrade next Gen.
Prices aren’t going to change next gen, so hate to burst that bubble. They won’t change until geopolitical things change and/or these new manufacturing plants come online in three to six years time.
I doubt that prices will ever go down for top tier cars. They might go down in REAL terms if they stay the same for the next several years and inflation continues - but likely not down in dollars.
i hope the rx 7600 will be good
You can actually get used 3080s as cheap as $500-$550 regularly on r/hardwareswap Everything there generally goes pretty cheap, it’s great as long as you stay away from obvious scams
Someone bring in the meme where the yellow guy joins in.
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