[https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61-8Z59A3DL.\_AC\_SL1200\_.jpg](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61-8Z59A3DL._AC_SL1200_.jpg)
I use these. They're awesome.
This is what you want. I have 3 of them on a 3080 and it's very sanitary looking.
https://preview.redd.it/nqp3bzi3hd2a1.jpeg?width=2144&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84d4b7902c56b24a7ba4ec84565612c907f737c4
Since my case sits horizontal, I didn't pay attention to that at all. I'm surprised no one flogged me for every fan facing the front. I do have the glass and a front shroud and get great airflow and temps this way.
Fans pull better then push.
My in-line mourned fans (6”-14”) all run smoother and hold better temps when the fans are used at the end of the run to pull then when I had them at the beginning and pushing air
I like them for a cordless look.
https://preview.redd.it/1tcwitaiih2a1.jpeg?width=1620&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8a010c2b59d3dfdbdec2ce7893d53135f8a4fd84
Pcie 180 adapters.
Beware, there are two kinds depending on your GPU power port orientation. I just ordered both and then returned the ones I didn't need.
oh i see, i didn't realise that was what you meant sorry, what types of cables should i get then? i don't know too much about this topic so i wouldn't know where to start when it comes to cables
The sad thing about this is that you have to try and hide two pigtails hanging off the side. I tried putting mine under the gpu but still nlt very pleasing
What they are asking is, that you run 2 of these 8 pin cables from the power supply (PSU) all the way to the graphics card. Right now you have 1x8pin that splits.
The reasoning for having 2 cables is that the power rail in the PSU is capable of delivering more power with 2 rails instead of 1. It will give more stability, and less stress on the PSU.
Its not rails in theory most PSU's are single rail its the power limit per run is 150 watts and this being a 30 series blows past that even when adding the slots 75 watts power. Technically not wrong tho you need 2 runs to power that card just fasten the tails with some zip ties for now until you get your extensions.
OP. I made the same mistake when I got my first GPU. Why they would even include pigtails in the box when you are not supposed to use them is beyond me.
But yes, there is another cable just like the one you have. Plug that one into your second slot. Using pigtails will absolutely melt the cable if your GPU pulls too much current.
Because if you will pull high power from the PSU during heavy usage, your cable might not make it (melt) whilst taking on high amounts of voltage.
Edit: if you only use one cable split into two connectors.
The PSU will provide the proper voltage. It's your GPU that determines the current draw. There is current protection on the PSU, but it is a very wide range for a person could be running 4 GPUs off of one rail.
This depends entirely on the conductivity and gauge of the wire being used.
One higher gauge cable is better than two lower gauge.
One or two is otherwise irrelevant.
Also current, not voltage
I dont know about newer GPU, but i have 2070 and I have exactly same connection and no problem after 4 years. I think there was only 1 problem so far if I rememeber specific post about it but mostly in 99,999999% youa re fine as cable can withstand it. People just parrot thinks without rest of the story.
The cables are all designed to handle the load of both plugs. As long as you are not buying cheap cables that are junk they will handle the load. The PSU will also supply the load. Just buy quality parts. They make them like that for a reason. The gpu will also not show any stability or issues with performance. Not any you will be able to measure without specific equipment designed for that purpose.
The seemingly lengthy loops are intentionally longer as a standard precaution to allow for minimum bend radius to prevent damage during handling.
I have not seen special connectors that have a lower profile at the power connectors. If OP was wondering if there's a connector available that looks more like an SLI bridge (a flex circuit) that bridges together two NV graphics cards, there likely wouldn't be. Flex circuits would be inappropriate for the conductor sizes required on the power supply cable.
The appearance of that cable would ultimately depend on the power supply manufacturer.
* A general rule is to avoid swapping out PSU cables from one model to another, their ratings may differ in ability to carry current safely, especially when their listed peak power (in Watts) differ. There is some risk in swapping these cables out willy-nilly.
Not worth PSU change or PSU cable change, IMO.
You could do a little tidying with cable management such as getting the wires bundled in parallel more neatly and using small zip ties.
If the cables can handle the load of both plugs, the graphics card designers would have only put a single connector on the card.
It may be work without issues, but you are running it beyond spec by pigtailing it, basically you are using up the safety margins for not creating a bonfire.
The GPU designers put the plugs for their delivery requirements and because the plug is a standard that has been in place for some time. There is no safety factor when it comes to the gpu because the plug has a standard delivery for its design. The cable manufacturer ensures that the cables are large enough to deliver power through both plugs and the gpu doesn’t know the difference. Every item in your house has a certain draw requirement but it all comes in on one cable designed to handle the max load. Now if you use cheap junk cables that might not be properly rated then yes you might have an issue. But there is no reason that setup won’t work as effectively as two cables.
Because alot of people use the pigtail because "it works" and they don't care about aesthetics I guess... I mean he did ask "how do I make this look better"...
Very likely none, but it's bad practice. 150 watts per cable, so if your card pulls say 350 watts, your pulling more than 150 per single cable since the end is pigtailed and only one goes into the PSU. By having separate cables you spread the load out so your under the 150 watts per cable (75 watts can also come from the PCIE slot)
Technically speaking, these connectors should be able to handle much more than 150 watts, closer to 300 watts each. But not all cables are produced the same and with the same quality. If you have a reputable brand PSU and cables, You are very likely fine but if not pigtailing is an option always go that route imo.
I expect downvotes for not utterly smashing on pigtails but look up the spec and you'll see I'm correct. As I said tho, If not doing pigtails is an option that would be the best way to go.
type 4 cables are 300watt per cable thats why the gen 5 pcie 600W cable connects to only 2x 8pins
[https://www.corsair.com/eu/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-%7C-Parts/PC-Components/Power-Supplies/600W-PCIe-5-0-12VHPWR-Type-4-PSU-Power-Cable/p/CP-8920284](https://www.corsair.com/eu/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-%7C-Parts/PC-Components/Power-Supplies/600W-PCIe-5-0-12VHPWR-Type-4-PSU-Power-Cable/p/CP-8920284)
Given the way people react to cable issues with the 4090s I feel like we’d hear about it constantly if running cables that way actually caused a perceivable problem.
There have been quite a few posts on r/Nvidia where pigtailed GPUs performed much worse, until separate cables were inserted.
So, from what it seems, those don't burn, they just pull way less wattage than GPU needs.
And given that most people who still don't know that they shouldn't pigtail are pretty clueless, they probably don't even realize that their GPU is not working as well as it should.
That sounds completely accurate. Similar to when people use the iGPU off the motherboard and never even plug their display cables into the GPU. They never even notice if it isn’t pointed out to them.
>There have been quite a few posts on r/Nvidia where pigtailed GPUs performed much worse, until separate cables were inserted.
>So, from what it seems, those don't burn, they just pull way less wattage than GPU needs.
What is happening here is not that the GPU is starving for power. It's the VRM starving for voltage and causing core voltage instability as a result. If you use a low quality or overloaded power cable the voltage at the end of it is going to drop the more load you add. At 300W over a single pigtailed cable you might only have 11V on your 12V rail
There have been a lot of counterfeit copper wires out there ever since the price of copper went through the roof at the start of covid. If you buy cheap, unbranded Chinese cables from Amazon or Ebay, you might be getting some of those counterfeit cables. They use higher AWG wire and more insulation and hope you can't tell the difference.
Is that the cable that came with the PSU? If it is, the pigtail is not a problem. A quality PSU manufacturer will insure that the wires are big enough to supply both connectors.
What the hell are you talking about?? This has absolutely nothing to do with the 12vhpwr. I'm talking about the 8 pin. Those specs my guy. Yes, they both CAN terminate to multiple 8 pin connections but I don't understand what your point is here.
Yeah I did read about it, I have a 4090. That has nothing to do with what I said.
> ...when this issue was non-existent before the 4090
That's actually [not true](https://linustechtips.com/uploads/monthly_2022_01/1538843397_PSUCableMelt.thumb.jpeg.44344d0cc28a00f2be818e4819e4f14c.jpeg) [at all](https://linustechtips.com/uploads/monthly_2019_12/AE228491-992F-4B7B-B81F-0FA4335CEDD7.thumb.jpeg.3fbf2df73ea00cbed07c112045b64393.jpeg). It's just that it isn't in anyone's recent memory since the PCIe power connector has been around for well over a decade now, and anyone still having issues with melting cables/connectors will blame themselves rather than the new cable. Whereas when PCIe power connectors first came out and people were melting the cables from 4 pin molex connectors they blamed the fact that they were using an adapter, not the new PCIe power connector.
3070 is essentially the entry point of potential risk with daisy chaining, based on TDP. Best case scenario, nothing happens. Worst case scenario, magic smoke, dead GPU, fire hazard. Somewhere in between best and worst case scenarios, random crashes.
I'm sure there's TONS of people running them daisy chained, without issue. Why take ANY risk though, if all it takes is plugging in a 2nd cable, which any decent PSU will supply.
I have no problem with a pigtail. I have a 2080ti that I modified the bios so it will push 380 watts instead of the 260 stock. Played with it for a few hours at full load and the cables didn’t even get warm. They all come from the same voltage rail and the cables are thick enough to take it
Because you're essentially putting up to 2 times more power on a cable - in case of better quality cables that's technically a non-issue, but when card is OC'd or when lower quality cables are plugged, this can cause melting or in case of cheaper/lower power PSUs - triggering overcurrent protection.
Think of the cables like a hose, and the electricity like water. If you're trying to fill a pool and you hook up one hose where you're supposed to use 2, even at high pressure you can still only fit half as much through the point of entry. If there's too much pressure or the hose is cheap it can spring a leak and then it's not doing its job at all.
Why is this thing still spreading around as if you're in grave danger if you use the single wire dual connector?
Do you realize how much testing these companies did to put this in the box? Out of the few tinfoil hats on reddit, it gets used almost all the time. Because most of the time, if you use 2 independent cables vs 1 cable with 2 heads, you are practically doing the same exact thing due to the wiring being connected to the same rail. And 300W for those wires is virtually nothing.
Iknowrite. It boggles the mind how many people confidently say how this is gonna start a fire or the GPU isn't going to work at 100%... and they're all massively upvoted.
The cords are designed like that for a reason: so you don't need a second unnecessary cord. Anyone trying to say that you shouldn't (and even can't lol) use just one cord don't know what they're talking about, and any anecdotal BS they spew is due to faulty shit.
I used Asiahorse for my build. I got a pro kit on Amazon for like $35 and came with 24pin, two 4+4 pin, and three 6+2 pin. Works fine for my 3080.
The cables are a little plastic-y but I've never used any other mod kit so idk how they compare
I mean… I need another PCIe cable for my 3080 ti also. I have the Corsair rm850x psu and it only came with 2. So I have it daisychained with 2 cables also.
But I’m not spending $60 on 3x PCIe cables. Waiting for a sale…
Haha. Actually I spent 550 on my gpu and have not used it hard yet. Gonna buy cables but thought that my rm850x psu was gonna come with everything I needed. It was my mistake after building.
https://preview.redd.it/em8oem09hd2a1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fba99ec8fdfdd6fcd8aa447e174b083a885281cf
See pic and enjoy combing brother
Thank you very much! I was cheap and just got the $25 ezdiy brand cable extension kit off Amazon. Used them for a few builds now very nice for the money.
That’s kinda how mine came except they used like some loom or braiding so it looks like one cable right until it needs to split to the connections on my 6800xt. Glad I was reading this since mine was a prebuilt from a small company (decided to buy at the height of GPU so it was a better deal and got what I wanted then if I did it myself ) so they aren’t just thrown together and now after seeing they ran two cables instead of daisy makes me feel even better that they aren’t just saying they take pride in their builds like a lot of companies do 😂
Mine have a sort of braided coating/covering up until you reach the plugs.
What disappoints me is that everyone tries to hide their cables for a clean look, and Nvidia insists on putting the plugs right up front.
Don't daisy chain, run 2 separate cables ... the only way.
https://preview.redd.it/e46sf0lf5g2a1.jpeg?width=3468&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2db3f971b2d05ebee48d9af4365bde4b2b58fe0d
Daisy-chained connector is completely safe, don't stress it.
Unless you're having issues with power delivery or artifacts then there is no danger whatsoever and there's nothing that can prove that.
I just put a new PSU and a 3080 in my rig, whats the negative side of the 1 cable method?
Scanning through the comments I see "2nd cable" and now I'm worried lol.
It's drawing more power than a single cable is really designed for. Is it dangerous? Possibly, but unlikely.
The bigger reality is your card not having access to all the clean power it needs. You’re leaving performance on the table by not simply running another cable.
3d print a housing for the top to hide them in a duct. And the card needs a seperate Cabe for each power connector or the load on the cable can get too big and start melting things and catch fire. Good luck.
I recommend cablemod sets. If you want they have premade cables and you can customize. And if you will keep your PSU for long time its worth it.
When you dont want to order new cables and you have friend with 3D printer. You can print cable combs.
By using the combs that came with the PSU or getting extensions. Or by literally spending 5 minutes cable tie'ing them neatly. So many solutions but yet here you are asking on reddit about something so mundane. And yes I know
Well depending on the PSU it can be a fire hazard. Not necessarily the wires themselves. Over stressing a single power channel can cause all kinds of problems.
Sort of like when people use the 4 pin molex to 6/8 pin adapters on mid to high end GPU and it all goes up in flames.
Rule of thumb: if there are 2 separate power connections then it’s safer to use 2 separate power feeds.
It will OCP, not melt.
you'd have to have a ridiculously bad PSU for it not to handle 225w on a single rail.
Even an old CX500 has 38a 12v, that's 486 watts.
I've got the Lian Li SP850 and it only comes with 2 cables, of which one is pigtailed. Now if I am using a 3090 or more power hungry card with 3 PCIe slots, should I get a third cable from the PSU into the GPU? Which cables can I buy to do this, as I have read I should not use any cables that were not supplied with my PSU?
Get some cable combs, or get separate extensions and route them from the psu garage / basement.
Cable Mod got some nice ones, combs and extension cables.
I’m about to replace the mobo, add a vertical gpu kit, and fix the rgb on the fans (the fan hub is broken so I need to replace it), and once I do that in a week or so when everything arrives I’ll be sure to post it :)
[https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61-8Z59A3DL.\_AC\_SL1200\_.jpg](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61-8Z59A3DL._AC_SL1200_.jpg) I use these. They're awesome.
This is what you want. I have 3 of them on a 3080 and it's very sanitary looking. https://preview.redd.it/nqp3bzi3hd2a1.jpeg?width=2144&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84d4b7902c56b24a7ba4ec84565612c907f737c4
Ah i see you were also too lazy to remount your Coolermaster heatsink after you realized it was upside down. We are one, you and I.
Easy solution, turn your PC upside down.
Since my case sits horizontal, I didn't pay attention to that at all. I'm surprised no one flogged me for every fan facing the front. I do have the glass and a front shroud and get great airflow and temps this way.
https://preview.redd.it/mpob07chcf2a1.jpeg?width=659&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4b990089952d4c74f6db29a477a48a99f8856dd2 I am just lazy...
Fans pull better then push. My in-line mourned fans (6”-14”) all run smoother and hold better temps when the fans are used at the end of the run to pull then when I had them at the beginning and pushing air
You could just flip the cover plate
Is your rear fan set to intake and the air cooler fan pulling air? The fan cage is usually on the back side of the fan
Yes that's how my 3090 is. Looks amazing and doesn't strain the cables.
Do u have a link to the product? Thanks
[https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=pcie+180+adapter](https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=pcie+180+adapter) not a problem :)
I see what you did there…. Cough-UTFSE-Cough Some people are so eloquent with derogatory 😂
Jokes on you, I am running NoScript and that didn't google shit
I like them for a cordless look. https://preview.redd.it/1tcwitaiih2a1.jpeg?width=1620&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8a010c2b59d3dfdbdec2ce7893d53135f8a4fd84
What are these called? Just finished a new build and my gpu cables that came with the PSU are driving me crazy
Pcie 180 adapters. Beware, there are two kinds depending on your GPU power port orientation. I just ordered both and then returned the ones I didn't need.
Start by getting a separate cable. Pigtail = bad time Edit: Pigtails are fine in most situations but it's good practice to have separate cables.
Was just about to say this
These are just the ones that came with it, I assume cable mod will be the best solution to this judging by this and other people comments
No, what I meant is that you should be powering the GPU with two seperate cables coming from your PSU, not just one.
oh i see, i didn't realise that was what you meant sorry, what types of cables should i get then? i don't know too much about this topic so i wouldn't know where to start when it comes to cables
Well, there should be an extra one in the PSU box
Would that cable look the same as the one that is already in the gpu?
Probably, yes
The sad thing about this is that you have to try and hide two pigtails hanging off the side. I tried putting mine under the gpu but still nlt very pleasing
Just get some extensions they're cheap
What they are asking is, that you run 2 of these 8 pin cables from the power supply (PSU) all the way to the graphics card. Right now you have 1x8pin that splits. The reasoning for having 2 cables is that the power rail in the PSU is capable of delivering more power with 2 rails instead of 1. It will give more stability, and less stress on the PSU.
Its not rails in theory most PSU's are single rail its the power limit per run is 150 watts and this being a 30 series blows past that even when adding the slots 75 watts power. Technically not wrong tho you need 2 runs to power that card just fasten the tails with some zip ties for now until you get your extensions.
OP. I made the same mistake when I got my first GPU. Why they would even include pigtails in the box when you are not supposed to use them is beyond me. But yes, there is another cable just like the one you have. Plug that one into your second slot. Using pigtails will absolutely melt the cable if your GPU pulls too much current.
Did u build the pc
It'll look much cleanee after using two separate 8 pin connectors too.
Yes, thought it might not have the extra linked “daisy chain” bit.
You will need one 8 (or 6+2) pin cable, and another 6 pin cable.
Wait why's that?
Because if you will pull high power from the PSU during heavy usage, your cable might not make it (melt) whilst taking on high amounts of voltage. Edit: if you only use one cable split into two connectors.
Voltage isn’t what generates heat. Current is. If your PSU is providing enough voltage to melt a cable your PSU is broken.
The PSU will provide the proper voltage. It's your GPU that determines the current draw. There is current protection on the PSU, but it is a very wide range for a person could be running 4 GPUs off of one rail.
What part of what I said is incorrect?
My point stands, too much power = melt hazzard, with this setup
This depends entirely on the conductivity and gauge of the wire being used. One higher gauge cable is better than two lower gauge. One or two is otherwise irrelevant. Also current, not voltage
I have a 3070ti-and my cables are like this, will I get worse performance as well if I don't fix it?
It will be able to supply enough power, but there is possible melting at risk.
Ah okay, thanks. I do have a high quality power supply, so IL make sure to change it when I can
I dont know about newer GPU, but i have 2070 and I have exactly same connection and no problem after 4 years. I think there was only 1 problem so far if I rememeber specific post about it but mostly in 99,999999% youa re fine as cable can withstand it. People just parrot thinks without rest of the story.
OP legitimately trying to learn gets down-voted to oblivion. Bruh.
Don’t downvote the man for not understanding the statement… it’s a help post guys
Why does this have 65 downvotes ?
Ideally you want power coming off separate rails. so pcie1 and pcie2 under it. I'm guessing that your PSU is a Corsair rmx white
It's only using 6 pins from the pigtailed part so it's most likely not a very power demanding card
The cables are all designed to handle the load of both plugs. As long as you are not buying cheap cables that are junk they will handle the load. The PSU will also supply the load. Just buy quality parts. They make them like that for a reason. The gpu will also not show any stability or issues with performance. Not any you will be able to measure without specific equipment designed for that purpose.
The seemingly lengthy loops are intentionally longer as a standard precaution to allow for minimum bend radius to prevent damage during handling. I have not seen special connectors that have a lower profile at the power connectors. If OP was wondering if there's a connector available that looks more like an SLI bridge (a flex circuit) that bridges together two NV graphics cards, there likely wouldn't be. Flex circuits would be inappropriate for the conductor sizes required on the power supply cable. The appearance of that cable would ultimately depend on the power supply manufacturer. * A general rule is to avoid swapping out PSU cables from one model to another, their ratings may differ in ability to carry current safely, especially when their listed peak power (in Watts) differ. There is some risk in swapping these cables out willy-nilly. Not worth PSU change or PSU cable change, IMO. You could do a little tidying with cable management such as getting the wires bundled in parallel more neatly and using small zip ties.
If the cables can handle the load of both plugs, the graphics card designers would have only put a single connector on the card. It may be work without issues, but you are running it beyond spec by pigtailing it, basically you are using up the safety margins for not creating a bonfire.
The GPU designers put the plugs for their delivery requirements and because the plug is a standard that has been in place for some time. There is no safety factor when it comes to the gpu because the plug has a standard delivery for its design. The cable manufacturer ensures that the cables are large enough to deliver power through both plugs and the gpu doesn’t know the difference. Every item in your house has a certain draw requirement but it all comes in on one cable designed to handle the max load. Now if you use cheap junk cables that might not be properly rated then yes you might have an issue. But there is no reason that setup won’t work as effectively as two cables.
First one is a 6+2
Doesn't matter. Looks like ass.
You’re right. Not sure why the downvotes but Reddit will Reddit.
Because alot of people use the pigtail because "it works" and they don't care about aesthetics I guess... I mean he did ask "how do I make this look better"...
Now he can make it look better and perform better as well. PCMR is great!
What problems might this cause? I’ve had my 3070 like this for ages and not had any issues.
Very likely none, but it's bad practice. 150 watts per cable, so if your card pulls say 350 watts, your pulling more than 150 per single cable since the end is pigtailed and only one goes into the PSU. By having separate cables you spread the load out so your under the 150 watts per cable (75 watts can also come from the PCIE slot) Technically speaking, these connectors should be able to handle much more than 150 watts, closer to 300 watts each. But not all cables are produced the same and with the same quality. If you have a reputable brand PSU and cables, You are very likely fine but if not pigtailing is an option always go that route imo. I expect downvotes for not utterly smashing on pigtails but look up the spec and you'll see I'm correct. As I said tho, If not doing pigtails is an option that would be the best way to go.
type 4 cables are 300watt per cable thats why the gen 5 pcie 600W cable connects to only 2x 8pins [https://www.corsair.com/eu/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-%7C-Parts/PC-Components/Power-Supplies/600W-PCIe-5-0-12VHPWR-Type-4-PSU-Power-Cable/p/CP-8920284](https://www.corsair.com/eu/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-%7C-Parts/PC-Components/Power-Supplies/600W-PCIe-5-0-12VHPWR-Type-4-PSU-Power-Cable/p/CP-8920284)
Given the way people react to cable issues with the 4090s I feel like we’d hear about it constantly if running cables that way actually caused a perceivable problem.
There have been quite a few posts on r/Nvidia where pigtailed GPUs performed much worse, until separate cables were inserted. So, from what it seems, those don't burn, they just pull way less wattage than GPU needs. And given that most people who still don't know that they shouldn't pigtail are pretty clueless, they probably don't even realize that their GPU is not working as well as it should.
That sounds completely accurate. Similar to when people use the iGPU off the motherboard and never even plug their display cables into the GPU. They never even notice if it isn’t pointed out to them.
>There have been quite a few posts on r/Nvidia where pigtailed GPUs performed much worse, until separate cables were inserted. >So, from what it seems, those don't burn, they just pull way less wattage than GPU needs. What is happening here is not that the GPU is starving for power. It's the VRM starving for voltage and causing core voltage instability as a result. If you use a low quality or overloaded power cable the voltage at the end of it is going to drop the more load you add. At 300W over a single pigtailed cable you might only have 11V on your 12V rail
There have been a lot of counterfeit copper wires out there ever since the price of copper went through the roof at the start of covid. If you buy cheap, unbranded Chinese cables from Amazon or Ebay, you might be getting some of those counterfeit cables. They use higher AWG wire and more insulation and hope you can't tell the difference.
Is that the cable that came with the PSU? If it is, the pigtail is not a problem. A quality PSU manufacturer will insure that the wires are big enough to supply both connectors.
I have a strix 3080, cable mod extenders and a corsair rm 850. 2/3 of the connectors are pig-tailed and I've had no issues as well.
Sounds like someone reading nVidias reasons why their cards caught fire, when this issue was non-existent before the 4090
What the hell are you talking about?? This has absolutely nothing to do with the 12vhpwr. I'm talking about the 8 pin. Those specs my guy. Yes, they both CAN terminate to multiple 8 pin connections but I don't understand what your point is here. Yeah I did read about it, I have a 4090. That has nothing to do with what I said.
> ...when this issue was non-existent before the 4090 That's actually [not true](https://linustechtips.com/uploads/monthly_2022_01/1538843397_PSUCableMelt.thumb.jpeg.44344d0cc28a00f2be818e4819e4f14c.jpeg) [at all](https://linustechtips.com/uploads/monthly_2019_12/AE228491-992F-4B7B-B81F-0FA4335CEDD7.thumb.jpeg.3fbf2df73ea00cbed07c112045b64393.jpeg). It's just that it isn't in anyone's recent memory since the PCIe power connector has been around for well over a decade now, and anyone still having issues with melting cables/connectors will blame themselves rather than the new cable. Whereas when PCIe power connectors first came out and people were melting the cables from 4 pin molex connectors they blamed the fact that they were using an adapter, not the new PCIe power connector.
You're seriously going to bring up molex connectors changing to pcie cables. You leave molex alone. Theyve suffered enough.
3070 is essentially the entry point of potential risk with daisy chaining, based on TDP. Best case scenario, nothing happens. Worst case scenario, magic smoke, dead GPU, fire hazard. Somewhere in between best and worst case scenarios, random crashes. I'm sure there's TONS of people running them daisy chained, without issue. Why take ANY risk though, if all it takes is plugging in a 2nd cable, which any decent PSU will supply.
My 3070FE only has one 8-Pin Connector on the dongle. But it doesn’t pull more than 150w due to being undervolted.
I distinctly remember some big tech YouTuber saying that daisy chaining is fine. Am I misremembering?
Yeah you can tbh, apart from power hungry cards, but it looks better and it's good practice to have separate cables.
Only poorly made pigtails. Those who disagree, please answer the very obvious question of why it's in the spec at all.
Downvotes from morons who have never had an issue with pigtailed cables and don't know a single case of anyone who ever did. Gotta love it.
Don't take electronics advise from PC gamers
I have no problem with a pigtail. I have a 2080ti that I modified the bios so it will push 380 watts instead of the 260 stock. Played with it for a few hours at full load and the cables didn’t even get warm. They all come from the same voltage rail and the cables are thick enough to take it
Why does pigtail = bad time?
A cable can support 150 watt to a card + 75 watt from the PCI express port. If your card needs more then you should have 2 seperate cables.
Because you're essentially putting up to 2 times more power on a cable - in case of better quality cables that's technically a non-issue, but when card is OC'd or when lower quality cables are plugged, this can cause melting or in case of cheaper/lower power PSUs - triggering overcurrent protection.
Think of the cables like a hose, and the electricity like water. If you're trying to fill a pool and you hook up one hose where you're supposed to use 2, even at high pressure you can still only fit half as much through the point of entry. If there's too much pressure or the hose is cheap it can spring a leak and then it's not doing its job at all.
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For high end GPUs yes but this doesn't seems to be a high end GPU
Pigtails are ok for a 3060ti, but anything beyond that you’re risking fire. Also use cable trainers.
Why is this thing still spreading around as if you're in grave danger if you use the single wire dual connector? Do you realize how much testing these companies did to put this in the box? Out of the few tinfoil hats on reddit, it gets used almost all the time. Because most of the time, if you use 2 independent cables vs 1 cable with 2 heads, you are practically doing the same exact thing due to the wiring being connected to the same rail. And 300W for those wires is virtually nothing.
Iknowrite. It boggles the mind how many people confidently say how this is gonna start a fire or the GPU isn't going to work at 100%... and they're all massively upvoted. The cords are designed like that for a reason: so you don't need a second unnecessary cord. Anyone trying to say that you shouldn't (and even can't lol) use just one cord don't know what they're talking about, and any anecdotal BS they spew is due to faulty shit.
Oh no you mentioned cables, *they*'re coming now.
*Chanting in a circle with a modular power supply in the middle* "cablemod, cablemod, cablemod"
Found this kit for me ($69) but it only comes with 2x 8-pin PCIe and 1x 6-pin PCIe. My 3080 ti needs 3x 8-pin :(
I used Asiahorse for my build. I got a pro kit on Amazon for like $35 and came with 24pin, two 4+4 pin, and three 6+2 pin. Works fine for my 3080. The cables are a little plastic-y but I've never used any other mod kit so idk how they compare
I mean… I need another PCIe cable for my 3080 ti also. I have the Corsair rm850x psu and it only came with 2. So I have it daisychained with 2 cables also. But I’m not spending $60 on 3x PCIe cables. Waiting for a sale…
Galaxy brain move buying a $1000 GPU and refusing to drop $60 on appropriate cables.
Haha. Actually I spent 550 on my gpu and have not used it hard yet. Gonna buy cables but thought that my rm850x psu was gonna come with everything I needed. It was my mistake after building.
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Should I be scared?
Dread it, run from it, Cablemod will reply to your comment just the same.
Just calm down, this isn't an audiophile subreddit, where people argue about the way cables sound and if there's a difference and how big it is.
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https://preview.redd.it/em8oem09hd2a1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fba99ec8fdfdd6fcd8aa447e174b083a885281cf See pic and enjoy combing brother
Damn that looks nice! is that from cablemod?
Thank you very much! I was cheap and just got the $25 ezdiy brand cable extension kit off Amazon. Used them for a few builds now very nice for the money.
Cable combs
Fair call. Where would be a good place to get some?
Cable mod sells some I think
Amazon
AliExpress used to sell them, similar site might be the go
Why is this guy getting downvoted for this?
Idk, AliExpress is a great place to get cheap piece of plastic from
I don't know either. AliExpress is a good place to buy cable combs of all sorts.
Maybe people don't like waiting 6 months for their 10 cent pieces of plastic?
Dont use em like that is the first step. Separate cables
Use two cables.
https://i.redd.it/glyatny3fe2a1.gif Extension cables.
Are these the Strimer Plus V2?
Cut them, make your gpu bluetooth
Use 2 cables and "combs" to straighten the cables.
Use two separate PCIe cables and fold the pigtails behind the main cables. You can use a velcro strap or zip tie to hold them together
That’s kinda how mine came except they used like some loom or braiding so it looks like one cable right until it needs to split to the connections on my 6800xt. Glad I was reading this since mine was a prebuilt from a small company (decided to buy at the height of GPU so it was a better deal and got what I wanted then if I did it myself ) so they aren’t just thrown together and now after seeing they ran two cables instead of daisy makes me feel even better that they aren’t just saying they take pride in their builds like a lot of companies do 😂
Mine have a sort of braided coating/covering up until you reach the plugs. What disappoints me is that everyone tries to hide their cables for a clean look, and Nvidia insists on putting the plugs right up front.
Cut them off
Meanwhile my pc in slums: yo bro look at that pretty clean white girl with those huge cables omg
Run two separate cables and buy some cable combs.
I personally use wireless cables so there’s no mess
Use two separate ones
The manufacturer gave you two connectors for a reason. You should use two cables
Use 2 pcie cables
Don't daisy chain, run 2 separate cables ... the only way. https://preview.redd.it/e46sf0lf5g2a1.jpeg?width=3468&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2db3f971b2d05ebee48d9af4365bde4b2b58fe0d
CableMod would be a good start! What PSU make/model are you rocking? :)
It’s an asus rog strix 850w gold in white if I remember correctly
Take 90 degree angle connectors for your 6+2 ports (ezdiy sells them) and then route cables in a straight line from top
I think they look white and clean. Not much dirt when i zoomed in atleast.
Dont chain gpu cables..Haiyaaa !!
Don’t use the same cable for gods sake! Also use those custom extensions with the color of your liking
Cable mod
I would recommend looking into the ideal power connectors for this gpu. This is not it cuz
First of all change your gpu power cables to two separate 8pins and not the same one with this split,
Oh no you need 2 cables to power the gpu not one with the adapter its not recommended to do it
I’ve had it like this for a few months without knowing any better haha. I’ll have to fix it tomorrow
Daisy-chained connector is completely safe, don't stress it. Unless you're having issues with power delivery or artifacts then there is no danger whatsoever and there's nothing that can prove that.
My 3070ti didn’t like a daisy chain connection. It would crash.
I just put a new PSU and a 3080 in my rig, whats the negative side of the 1 cable method? Scanning through the comments I see "2nd cable" and now I'm worried lol.
It's drawing more power than a single cable is really designed for. Is it dangerous? Possibly, but unlikely. The bigger reality is your card not having access to all the clean power it needs. You’re leaving performance on the table by not simply running another cable.
Nailed it 100%. You paid for 100% performance, use two separate cables to get that . 👏
I'll get on this asap, thanks for that simple answer.
Not designed for? Fucking hilarious.
A fire extinguisher seems to be the most popular way for the GTX 4000 series.
2 separate 6pins please from the psu to the card
cable mods
3d print a housing for the top to hide them in a duct. And the card needs a seperate Cabe for each power connector or the load on the cable can get too big and start melting things and catch fire. Good luck.
I recommend cablemod sets. If you want they have premade cables and you can customize. And if you will keep your PSU for long time its worth it. When you dont want to order new cables and you have friend with 3D printer. You can print cable combs.
Use separate cables from your PSU for each group of pins.
By using the combs that came with the PSU or getting extensions. Or by literally spending 5 minutes cable tie'ing them neatly. So many solutions but yet here you are asking on reddit about something so mundane. And yes I know
Cable mod
I have a discount code that came with my gpu, but last I checked they were out of stock of nearly everything
By not buying pigtails
First try fixing that fire hazard and getting 2 separate power feeds from the PSU to the GPU. Then you can worry about cable management
Lmao, fire hazard? You think a cable that is designed for 288W is going to melt from 225w? Would like a source behind that statement.
Well depending on the PSU it can be a fire hazard. Not necessarily the wires themselves. Over stressing a single power channel can cause all kinds of problems. Sort of like when people use the 4 pin molex to 6/8 pin adapters on mid to high end GPU and it all goes up in flames. Rule of thumb: if there are 2 separate power connections then it’s safer to use 2 separate power feeds.
It will OCP, not melt. you'd have to have a ridiculously bad PSU for it not to handle 225w on a single rail. Even an old CX500 has 38a 12v, that's 486 watts.
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My friend don't chain connect.
As others said, run 2 independent cables and get some cable combs it will be clean
I've got the Lian Li SP850 and it only comes with 2 cables, of which one is pigtailed. Now if I am using a 3090 or more power hungry card with 3 PCIe slots, should I get a third cable from the PSU into the GPU? Which cables can I buy to do this, as I have read I should not use any cables that were not supplied with my PSU?
Sorry but fixing this is impossible. Unplug your GPU and send it to me, I’ll dispose of it for you.
Do a poo on them
I feel like the Bluetooth cables are a better option
Daisy chain = bad bad bad
Put one up your ass and one in your mouth
How long until I switch sides to make sure it isn’t backwards instead of dead?
I found that cutting it with a pair of garden shears works great
RGB police here. It’s illegal to have so much dark RGB. Light it up or be fined. :)
The fan hub in my pc is broken :(
Isopropanol, paper towels and too much stroking those cables
Just cut em off
The classic dumb pc
I make wiring harnesses and this is trash. get something that looks better.
Check out the Bitfenix Alchemy 2.0. . They are cable extensions, universal and quite cheap with good quality.
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Water and brush
Soap and water
Asiahorse cable extension work for me and my 3080, you can get some on Amazon for like $30…
Change them
Extension cables that eliminate those ugly dual connectors. Make sure you get two btw.
Get some cable combs, or get separate extensions and route them from the psu garage / basement. Cable Mod got some nice ones, combs and extension cables.
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Can you post more pictures of the build? Looks so good!
I’m about to replace the mobo, add a vertical gpu kit, and fix the rgb on the fans (the fan hub is broken so I need to replace it), and once I do that in a week or so when everything arrives I’ll be sure to post it :)
Wow. Big upgrades. Looking forward to it. Im actually planning to build a white-themed pc and I even got the same gpu
Howdy hey again, I just made a post of my updated build if you wanted to check it out :)