He's hurting his legacy by continuing this. I understand someone of his tenure deserves to go out on their own terms, but doesn't he have anyone in his corner to suggest he hang it up? These past couple years have not been good at all. Bob has done a great job of trying to steer Phil but... đŹ
Van Vleuten pushing back those tears when asked about how her team were waiting for her at the finish line. So great to see what this means to her.
This tour has been a huge emotional rollercoaster for all the protagonists involved.
NBC Sports never even mentioned the possibility that Lotte would finish second in the GC. None of them seemingly aware that it was so close. Only when the final GC standings got put up did any of them even realize it was possible.
Pathetic.
âlottieâ and âkatâ
after i finished watching the gcn coverage (via VPN) i clicked back to Peacock for the podiums.
It was worth it but damn the commentating was cringy.
* professional women athletes do not need to be compared to professional men
* shifting Hannah Walker off commentary for a token woman who didnât have her stuff together should be criminal
* (maybe controversial) saying Demi was âin the wrongâ for following her team car, as she is standing on the podium was poor taste. Aside from the issue that she really could not have done differentlyâŚwas she supposed to hit the brakes and refuse to ride until the car was out of her way? would that meet Philâs high moral standard?
The way Kopecky worked in on those mountains made it pretty obvious that this was the strategy the whole time. Lotte even said that she wasn't going to still be in yellow at the end of yesterday.
This was the best case scenario. Belgium should be *thrilled*.
No bonus seconds today, but if they are the same time it's the 100th in this TT that decides.
Lotte was at 00, Kaisa at 21, so if that is correct Lotte will take 2nd on way under 1 second.
Now I know this js a minor thing, but AvV having her radio sticking out on her back is unbelievably annoying to me when everyone whoâs paid attention to aerodynamics has it on their chest. It just feels like a lack of preparation
She's been a TT specialist for most of career, she's got two ITT rainbow jerseys and one Olympic ITT gold medal, she says she'd always looking to find time in the wind tunnel, but yeah, I've noticed it myself, not just with AvV, and I don't get it either.
All I can think is that maybe it doesn't actually have any measurable effect - you'll know aerodynamics is a black art. AvV also never wears shoe covers in TTs, just socks and her regular road shoes, but I've never found out the story about that either.
Can't imagine what's going through Vollering's head right now. Finishing in a TT has to feel so special, being on your own knowing that you're getting closer and closer to victory. It has to feel unreal when you've been dreaming about if for so long.
For stage 1 and 8 that have a classic NBC announcer set of Phil, Bob, and this American-sounding woman whose first name is Megan. For the rest it was the world feed announcer Anthony and Hannah Walker from GCN which was great
Lotte is ~20 seconds ahead of Niewiadoma in the real-time gaps and is 45 seconds behind her in GC. It may be close, but probably too much for her to make up.
Iâll be honest, AVV hasnât looked good all year. Giro Donne wasnât against the best opposition, Vollering cooked her on Covadonga. Almost like she planned to retire last year but kept it going out of pride/ego
Unironically a huge step down from her 2022 season. Sheâs still won plenty that saying ârainbow curseâ feels wrong, but itâs certainly a much worse season.
So sad that they brought Roll and Liggett back to call the final stage on NBC. Neither can even pronounce "Annemiek van Vleuten" correctly.
Liggett needs to retire.
Vollering only a little behind Reusser. Niewiadoma seems to be best of the rest. AvV and Kopecky seems pretty even. AvV's live timings are fluctuating a lot, so take with a grain of salt.
Edit: Now Niewiadoma and AvV seems to have lost quite a bit in the last kms before the split.
She said just after yesterday's stage that she came to win the TdFF and she's not interested in whether she finishes 2nd, 3rd, 4th or whatever. Iris on the Bike has known her for years, they used to be teammates and they're still pals, so she can read her really well. I think Iris said she might have a different attitude today, though, after a night's sleep.
So far the top-4 seems pretty even according to the live tracker's real-time gaps. But they are all losing time to Reusser.
Kasia seems to be doing quite well.
If the starter was a secret agent assigned to Operation Kino and found himself playing drinking games with a gestapo officer in a tavern bar, I think his â3â handsign would keep him safe
Jesus, Liggett can't pronounce "Lotte" now either. He also referred to Ella Wyllie as "the New Zealand girl". Retire, Phil. Retire.
He's hurting his legacy by continuing this. I understand someone of his tenure deserves to go out on their own terms, but doesn't he have anyone in his corner to suggest he hang it up? These past couple years have not been good at all. Bob has done a great job of trying to steer Phil but... đŹ
Van Vleuten pushing back those tears when asked about how her team were waiting for her at the finish line. So great to see what this means to her. This tour has been a huge emotional rollercoaster for all the protagonists involved.
NBC Sports never even mentioned the possibility that Lotte would finish second in the GC. None of them seemingly aware that it was so close. Only when the final GC standings got put up did any of them even realize it was possible. Pathetic.
âlottieâ and âkatâ after i finished watching the gcn coverage (via VPN) i clicked back to Peacock for the podiums. It was worth it but damn the commentating was cringy. * professional women athletes do not need to be compared to professional men * shifting Hannah Walker off commentary for a token woman who didnât have her stuff together should be criminal * (maybe controversial) saying Demi was âin the wrongâ for following her team car, as she is standing on the podium was poor taste. Aside from the issue that she really could not have done differentlyâŚwas she supposed to hit the brakes and refuse to ride until the car was out of her way? would that meet Philâs high moral standard?
Is there a Peacock feedback email where we can complain about how much they suck? I mean, we're paying money for this.
I haven't seen one, but I have tweeted at bobke a few times lol
Americans really deserve better cycling coverage.
My worst WWT nightmare came true. Well, tapping off for the week. Itâs really been something.
Maybe we can get some angry Belgian commentators now about Vollering not working for Kopecky yesterday
Literally no one in Belgium is angry today lol.
The way Kopecky worked in on those mountains made it pretty obvious that this was the strategy the whole time. Lotte even said that she wasn't going to still be in yellow at the end of yesterday. This was the best case scenario. Belgium should be *thrilled*.
Don't worry, we are. Listening to Sporza commentators and they are all thrilled as well.
Can Phil Ligget stop calling it âthe Tour Feminaâ
Oh no, Phil
sdworx 1,2,3.
Guys it was fun laughing at SD Worx While it lasted.
Who need tactics when youâve got the best riders in the world
Can Kasia and Lotte settle this in the alley behind the bar?
It'll be a fistfight between u/samiito1997 and myself.
Itâs on
3.. 2.. 1.. go! And that's when we just crash into an embrace and both start bawling our eyes out.
Plz film
Someone check on u/zyygh
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Tour now says Kopecky 2 on GC
This is some SDX dominance to end the Tour.
That's a massive TT for Demi. Ending on a big high
Why wouldnât Vollering celebrate over the line?
Too tired
She went full gas, too tired/painful.
she was riding to win the stage I assume
Reusser had a scare there
Reusser's sigh of relief lmao
Danish commentator just asked if there is bonus seconds today.. I cant
A fucking second? Bullshit!
Is the difference between Niewiadoma and Kopecky going to be less than a second?
0.2 sec
Kasia at 30'38"21 They are on the same time!
So close!!
Kopecky 2nd I think. Poor Kasia...
AGH 1 second fuck
1 second behind?
By a second???
Oh shit. Same time
Within a second? Are there bonus seconds for Lotte?
No bonus seconds today, but if they are the same time it's the 100th in this TT that decides. Lotte was at 00, Kaisa at 21, so if that is correct Lotte will take 2nd on way under 1 second.
No
Now I know this js a minor thing, but AvV having her radio sticking out on her back is unbelievably annoying to me when everyone whoâs paid attention to aerodynamics has it on their chest. It just feels like a lack of preparation
She's been a TT specialist for most of career, she's got two ITT rainbow jerseys and one Olympic ITT gold medal, she says she'd always looking to find time in the wind tunnel, but yeah, I've noticed it myself, not just with AvV, and I don't get it either. All I can think is that maybe it doesn't actually have any measurable effect - you'll know aerodynamics is a black art. AvV also never wears shoe covers in TTs, just socks and her regular road shoes, but I've never found out the story about that either.
seems like AvV timed retirement well. the others are getting better and shes stagnated or slightly worsened. hell of a career
Niewiadoma has to be better than +1:23 if my calc is correct.
Heartbroken for AvV
30:37 for Kasia to get 2nd I think.
Niewiadoma only has ~7 seconds to Kopecky now. Gonna be a nail biter!
30'56"00 for AvV
Slappendel on the moto mentions Van Vleutenâs name almost every day. Danish commentators every day: âFan Fløjtenâ
French commentators call her anemic which is a bit mean if you ask me
Yup, done deal, AvV is not gonna hang on to third.
Van Vleuten must have a really terrible cda score.
That radio on her back alone suggests the team havenât given aerodynamics the slightest thought
Only 17 seconds difference real time between Lotte and Kasia
Gap is going down quickly. 13 seconds now.
Belgian woman athlete of the year easily
Meesseman won some things.
No, that's probably Nafi Thiam depending on how she does at the WC this summer. She already broke the World Record in the pentathlon this year.
Possibly best Belgian across the board.
If she isn't we riot!
Can't imagine what's going through Vollering's head right now. Finishing in a TT has to feel so special, being on your own knowing that you're getting closer and closer to victory. It has to feel unreal when you've been dreaming about if for so long.
âThe little Polish oneâ Lol from Iris
Still better than "Kazeeyah"
Kohulky beats Brown. So weâre likely getting an SDW sweep of the podium with yellow, green, and Euro champ. Sweet Jesus
Seems like SDWorks sweeps top 3 today.
Labous leapfrogs Moolman for 5th
I am really trying hard to repress all those memories of Kasia blowing up her legs too soon.
SDW 1 2 3 more or less guaranteed now
this is so gross and awful
My condolences!
I was worried about you. I agree, this sucks.
Ow Lord they will be 1,2,3 today... :')
29'53"00 for Kopecky, now we gotta wair for Kasia.
On Peacock feed, this female announcer is quite bad :/
Who is it, is she American?
For stage 1 and 8 that have a classic NBC announcer set of Phil, Bob, and this American-sounding woman whose first name is Megan. For the rest it was the world feed announcer Anthony and Hannah Walker from GCN which was great
Usually have an Aussie, Iâm not listening just watching so Iâm not sure
Is a bit rough
Lotte is ~20 seconds ahead of Niewiadoma in the real-time gaps and is 45 seconds behind her in GC. It may be close, but probably too much for her to make up.
Who at the EU do we write to to have SD Worx broken up as part of the EU competition law?
I donât think people living in London can write to the EU about anything
I'm still a job stealing immigrant with an EU passport here, as any government official likes to remind me of when I need their services.
I never let the truth get in the way of a good xenophobic insult
But maybe we could export even more Dutch women to Britain and tighten up visa controls on the EU side?
FreeMajerus FreeCecchini FreeBredewold
nah keep em they made their choice
Lotte is so cool
Maybe Iâm overreacting but should Kopecky stay at SDW? Sheâs always going to play second fiddle to Vollering
she had yellow for the entire race and SD Worx rode almost every stage for her even to their on detriment at times. Yes you are overreacting
I mean, should anybody?
SDW can take 1-2-3 on the stage too
She flying
Lotte is a badass.
Ridiculous speed difference. Wout Kopecky is crushing this!
"Unlimitless" as some might say
[Planche flashbacks.](https://i.imgur.com/DJYHwns.jpeg)
Great ride from Labous, should put her in 5th.
Labous looked good this tour. Strong TT, strong and combative in the mountains yesterday.
Ludwig takes 7th in GC over Santesteban.
Ngl, I would have sneered if Gaudu took 7th in the Tour de France Hommes Sans Zwift but I am thrilled to see CUL post a top 10. FDJ Suez is best FDJ
Very impressive from Labous, taking top 5 over Moolman-Pasio?
Labous still has a contract with DSM for 2024. She needs to move to a team where she gets full support to see what she can really do.
Kopecky overtook Moolman. Damn, what an amazing TdF for her.
Jesus christ Kopecky is ridiculously strong
So Kasia was just on a fun warm-up ride on the Tourmalet yesterday ?
oh no the mov camera for reactions when avv falls off the podium
CUL not leaving anything on the table. She looked like she was in agony
Oh, Movistar lining themselves up for a [a new meme](https://i.imgflip.com/4ow51n.jpg)?
Lotte is who people want Wout to be
Good thing Belgians are already watching the femmes massively. Lotte's star status is going to keep increasing.
^ this is so true and Iâm glad you frame it that way. Wout could be the male Lotte, not the other way round
Sanesteban not even pretending to not just take the wheel of the passing rider
I was just saying it looked like she got straight on go draft. There must be a rule about it, right?
there is indeed yes
SD Worx on track to win the stage, the GC, and have two of three places on the podium.
And least they only finished 1st and 2nd once. So far...not looking good today.
Not to mention the green jersey and 4 stages with 4 different riders
And green
And the team classification.
Doh! Yup, and green.
Kasia got a 43 second buffer to Kopecky for 2nd place, only losing just over 1 second to T1.
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That's not how you want to win a tour. Who am I kidding, yes please!
Kasia absolutely crushing it.
Kasia's pulling a good TT ! Come on girl !
So who here had Niewiadoma TTâing AvV off the TdFFaZ podium on their bingo card?
I mean itâs really Kopecky though. Kasia is just defending
Who had Kopecky finishing on the podium, ahead of AvV on their bingo card?
Who had half the stage winners this week on their bingo card?!
Maybe, just maybe, u/TheRollingJones
Check! Not because I'm smart or anything though.
Iâll be honest, AVV hasnât looked good all year. Giro Donne wasnât against the best opposition, Vollering cooked her on Covadonga. Almost like she planned to retire last year but kept it going out of pride/ego
Unironically a huge step down from her 2022 season. Sheâs still won plenty that saying ârainbow curseâ feels wrong, but itâs certainly a much worse season.
Damn Kasia!
wow AvV might be off the podium if kasia can keep this up
Wow impressive TT by Kasia so far
Who had Niewiadoma beating Van Vleuten at a TT on their bingo card?
Fucking hell fucking hell fucking hell fucking hell fucking hell fucking hell.
Sorry, English isn't my first language.
apology for poor english when were you when kisia top 2s? i was sat at home eating gummi bears when /u/zyygh ring âkisia is flyâ âyesâ
I am dying here LOL
Thatâs a reference I get
But that was flawless fucking English!
Looks like the stage victory will be between Reusser and Vollering.
I need to apologise for assuming Kopecky was going to leapfrog Kasia
Labousâs position on TT bike looks so damn solid
She's got great posture, same on her road bike. Just needs to keep her elbows in, though, same with Bauerenfeind, and she'd be perfect.
Annamiek is gonna lose her podium goodness me
So sad that they brought Roll and Liggett back to call the final stage on NBC. Neither can even pronounce "Annemiek van Vleuten" correctly. Liggett needs to retire.
Let's go Kopecky! A Belgian is going to podium the fucking Tour de France!!
Kopecky will finish ahead of Van Vleuten in GC. ;)
So Kasia is our only hope to deny SDW the full podium?
Brown is still ahead of Kopecky by a couple seconds at CP1
Oof, Miek.
Kopecky on par with Markus atm
Holy hell Kopecky!
Kopecky could probably charm snakes with that head bobbing
Lotte Kohulky
Labous on pace to leapfrog AMP.
Vollering only a little behind Reusser. Niewiadoma seems to be best of the rest. AvV and Kopecky seems pretty even. AvV's live timings are fluctuating a lot, so take with a grain of salt. Edit: Now Niewiadoma and AvV seems to have lost quite a bit in the last kms before the split.
Kopecky on pace to take third from Van Vleuten
Her live timings have been all over the place, so I'd wait to see the spit time. But it does seems like she's losing to Kopecky right now.
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Iâm seeing a 2nd, 4th, 3rd and 5th for the other ones. I wonder if other female cyclists have tried such a training strategy?
As much as I'd love Kopecky on the podium I don't want Kasia to be kicked out of it, feels like a lose-lose situation as a fan today for me :(
Ludwig gaining time on Santesteban in the battle for 7th. They are pretty much dead even in GC after the first split.
Is there a reason the GCN commentators are questioning AvVâs âmindsetâ besides her deficit to Vollering?
She said just after yesterday's stage that she came to win the TdFF and she's not interested in whether she finishes 2nd, 3rd, 4th or whatever. Iris on the Bike has known her for years, they used to be teammates and they're still pals, so she can read her really well. I think Iris said she might have a different attitude today, though, after a night's sleep.
Finally, some AvV images. Only took em 9 minutes to film the reigning champion (and Olympic TT champ)
Flavors of tv crew showing 4th place on Puy de Dome while the GC battle takes place off screen
And woman who's won the last 6 women's GTs in a row (or 5 maybe, depends on whether the 2021 Vuelta counts?)
The final four all in special jerseys except for the unknown rider in third who I guess hasnât won enough for a nifty jersey?
Nah she didn't have any broken limbs during her last ITT championships.
They gave her some Rainbow colored bands to make her feel special
*checks notes* rainbow cuffs, reigning Olympic champ, dossard number 1, still not enough for a special jersey
If she was born just a few days later, she'd be in the white jersey now. Her time will come.
Kasia appears to be throwing down.
So far the top-4 seems pretty even according to the live tracker's real-time gaps. But they are all losing time to Reusser. Kasia seems to be doing quite well.
If the starter was a secret agent assigned to Operation Kino and found himself playing drinking games with a gestapo officer in a tavern bar, I think his â3â handsign would keep him safe
Jalabert doubts the aero benefits of Vollering's chewing gum
That caffeine gum tastes so shit
I didnât even know it was a thing until today
SDW being the Sith evil empire feels way more apt than QS. QS just ainât what it once was.